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Hissyspit
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Wed Jul-28-10 09:44 PM Original message |
White House Proposal Would Ease FBI Access to Records of Internet Activity |
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postulater
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Wed Jul-28-10 09:46 PM Response to Original message |
1. The administration hates us for our freedom. |
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valerief
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Wed Jul-28-10 11:56 PM Response to Reply #1 |
54. The administration wants to fight us over here so they don't have to fight us over there. nt |
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saigon68
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Thu Jul-29-10 06:28 AM Response to Reply #54 |
116. if agents deem the information relevant |
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valerief
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Thu Jul-29-10 08:29 AM Response to Reply #116 |
132. Either he has a gun to his head or he's just simply one of the elites. nt |
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obxhead
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Thu Jul-29-10 09:28 AM Response to Reply #132 |
145. There's no gun. nt |
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valerief
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Thu Jul-29-10 10:13 AM Response to Reply #145 |
162. I agree. It's the latter. nt |
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flyarm
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Thu Jul-29-10 04:58 PM Response to Reply #145 |
217. no gun! Also, one man has the switch to switch it all off now as well! |
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Peregrine Took
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Thu Jul-29-10 05:11 PM Response to Reply #132 |
222. I often have to remind myself that there is a "Dem" in the WH. n/t |
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PatrynXX
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Thu Jul-29-10 06:33 PM Response to Reply #222 |
230. Yeah have to do that from time to time. |
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Thu Jul-29-10 07:35 PM Response to Reply #222 |
234. "I often have to remind myself that there is a "Dem" in the WH." |
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Uncle Joe
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Thu Jul-29-10 09:44 AM Response to Reply #116 |
150. What would J. Edgar Hoover do? |
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valerief
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Thu Jul-29-10 10:15 AM Response to Reply #150 |
164. He'd kill the internet. nt |
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Capitalocracy
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Thu Jul-29-10 12:50 PM Response to Reply #150 |
193. If Martin Luther King were blogging today, he'd probably get like 12 hits a month. |
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saigon68
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Thu Jul-29-10 01:03 PM Response to Reply #193 |
198. That second photo is |
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grahamhgreen
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Thu Jul-29-10 01:02 PM Response to Reply #116 |
196. As Randi Rhodes sez; When They Show You Who They Are, Believe Them! nt |
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defendandprotect
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Thu Jul-29-10 12:58 PM Response to Reply #54 |
194. Once again . . . we are the enemy! |
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superconnected
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Thu Jul-29-10 01:07 PM Response to Reply #54 |
202. hahahaha +1 |
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Enthusiast
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Thu Jul-29-10 06:47 AM Response to Reply #1 |
117. LOL nt |
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scentopine
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Thu Jul-29-10 08:50 PM Response to Reply #1 |
242. LOL! Freedom is just another word for pony. -nt |
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DJ13
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Wed Jul-28-10 09:46 PM Response to Original message |
2. Obama's President but I still feel Bush'ed |
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Roland99
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Thu Jul-29-10 08:10 AM Response to Reply #2 |
128. Guess it's time we start Acting like a PATRIOT |
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HALO141
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Thu Jul-29-10 10:16 AM Response to Reply #2 |
165. Strange, isn't it? n/t |
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Dr.Phool
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Thu Jul-29-10 10:20 AM Response to Reply #2 |
167. Isn't fascism fun? |
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flyarm
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Thu Jul-29-10 04:59 PM Response to Reply #167 |
219. No shit!! eom |
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scentopine
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Thu Jul-29-10 09:20 PM Response to Reply #167 |
245. But what can Obama do - he's only president, it's not like he has any real power... |
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babylonsister
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Wed Jul-28-10 09:48 PM Response to Original message |
3. "if agents deem the information relevant to a terrorism or intelligence investigation." |
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Hissyspit
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Wed Jul-28-10 09:50 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Oversight is the issue. |
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babylonsister
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Wed Jul-28-10 09:56 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. So do we actually know about either? And unlike |
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bronxkid
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Wed Jul-28-10 10:13 PM Response to Reply #6 |
16. Checks and balances should work for both parties |
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babylonsister
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Wed Jul-28-10 10:17 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. I don't buy into the meme that anyone should be spying on |
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No Elephants
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Wed Jul-28-10 11:06 PM Response to Reply #19 |
36. Did you read the article? They plan to "expand" what's been done before. |
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peacetalksforall
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Thu Jul-29-10 09:25 AM Response to Reply #19 |
144. There is a grand difference between the Administration and any U.S. intelligence dept |
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boppers
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Thu Jul-29-10 05:04 PM Response to Reply #144 |
220. 20 is a close guess. |
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boppers
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Thu Jul-29-10 05:04 PM Response to Reply #144 |
221. Dupe post. |
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OnyxCollie
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Wed Jul-28-10 11:02 PM Response to Reply #6 |
34. "And unlike the previous admin who wanted to watch over everyone, |
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babylonsister
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Wed Jul-28-10 11:15 PM Response to Reply #34 |
41. You're right. I'm biased. I hope for better from this admin. |
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Meldread
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Thu Jul-29-10 12:41 AM Response to Reply #41 |
68. That's incredibility short-sighted. |
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defendandprotect
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Thu Jul-29-10 01:03 PM Response to Reply #68 |
197. +1000% -- |
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Cleobulus
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Thu Jul-29-10 02:04 AM Response to Reply #41 |
87. Unless you think the Democrats are going to be in office indefinately... |
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Sherman A1
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Thu Jul-29-10 05:41 AM Response to Reply #87 |
113. +1000 |
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Thu Jul-29-10 11:21 AM Response to Reply #87 |
178. Deleted message |
HALO141
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Thu Jul-29-10 10:28 AM Response to Reply #41 |
169. Wrong is wrong |
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defendandprotect
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Thu Jul-29-10 01:04 PM Response to Reply #169 |
199. +1000% |
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dionysus
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Thu Jul-29-10 08:43 AM Response to Reply #34 |
135. there you go, calling other dems conservative again... |
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OnyxCollie
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Thu Jul-29-10 09:14 AM Response to Reply #135 |
141. There you go, acting like conservatives again... |
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dionysus
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Thu Jul-29-10 09:20 AM Response to Reply #141 |
143. rather weak sauce. no one is arguing that. you just like to call dems who don't agree with you cons. |
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OnyxCollie
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Thu Jul-29-10 09:28 AM Response to Reply #143 |
146. What a clever retort. |
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awoke_in_2003
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Thu Jul-29-10 11:25 AM Response to Reply #143 |
179. so you agree... |
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dionysus
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Thu Jul-29-10 11:29 AM Response to Reply #179 |
180. i never said anything like that. that wasn't even what i was talking about. |
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No Elephants
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Wed Jul-28-10 11:09 PM Response to Reply #6 |
40. Yes. We know about both. |
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fishwax
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Wed Jul-28-10 11:18 PM Response to Reply #6 |
43. this administration wouldn't be the only one with such authority |
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OnyxCollie
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Wed Jul-28-10 11:43 PM Response to Reply #6 |
52. "So do we actually know about either?" |
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caseymoz
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Thu Jul-29-10 12:05 AM Response to Reply #6 |
58. I think the constitution applies no matter who's in office. |
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Thu Jul-29-10 10:38 AM Response to Reply #58 |
171. Deleted message |
lonestarnot
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Thu Jul-29-10 08:18 PM Response to Reply #171 |
236. Got a little carried away with yourself didn't you there buster? |
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OnyxCollie
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Thu Jul-29-10 12:38 AM Response to Reply #6 |
65. FISA, Telecommunication Companies & the Bush Administration |
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cstanleytech
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Wed Jul-28-10 10:15 PM Response to Reply #5 |
18. Exactly, if they want to this it needs a heck of alot of oversight |
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HALO141
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Thu Jul-29-10 10:17 AM Response to Reply #5 |
166. It should be obvious by now |
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FreepFryer
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Wed Jul-28-10 09:57 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. 'deeming' is statism for 'establishing probable cause that' |
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babylonsister
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Wed Jul-28-10 10:30 PM Response to Reply #7 |
23. I don't understand; if someone is a viable threat, how is that |
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No Elephants
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Wed Jul-28-10 10:48 PM Response to Reply #23 |
27. Where did you see "viable threat' language? I did not see that in the standard being proposed. |
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mbperrin
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Wed Jul-28-10 10:54 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Thank you! I'm actually against the FISA courts, but your point is |
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babylonsister
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Wed Jul-28-10 11:01 PM Response to Reply #27 |
33. You're right, I assumed, and we know what that amounts to. |
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OnyxCollie
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Wed Jul-28-10 11:59 PM Response to Reply #33 |
56. "If there's a reason to investigate someone, I'm okay with that." |
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Enthusiast
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Thu Jul-29-10 07:02 AM Response to Reply #56 |
121. Thank you, OnyxCollie! |
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No Elephants
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Thu Jul-29-10 12:18 AM Response to Reply #33 |
62. Again, you are rewording, even as you quote |
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obxhead
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Thu Jul-29-10 09:37 AM Response to Reply #33 |
147. Yes it is being clearly defined now. |
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OnyxCollie
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Wed Jul-28-10 11:17 PM Response to Reply #23 |
42. "I don't understand; if someone is a viable threat, how is that |
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babylonsister
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Wed Jul-28-10 11:24 PM Response to Reply #42 |
48. WHAT? |
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MrMickeysMom
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Thu Jul-29-10 08:00 AM Response to Reply #48 |
127. Indeed... |
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obxhead
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Thu Jul-29-10 09:41 AM Response to Reply #48 |
148. This is an EXPANSION of the chimps policy. |
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defendandprotect
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Thu Jul-29-10 01:06 PM Response to Reply #23 |
200. ... because it makes us all guilty, it makes us all a "threat" . . . |
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No Elephants
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Wed Jul-28-10 10:35 PM Response to Reply #7 |
25. "Deem" is legalese for "anything goes." |
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Lance_Boyle
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Thu Jul-29-10 09:53 AM Response to Reply #7 |
152. then why not get a warrant? even a RETROACTIVE FISA warrant? |
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Wed Jul-28-10 10:25 PM Response to Reply #3 |
22. Oh, is that all? Obviously, we can trust the FBI and the federal government not to abuse their power |
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babylonsister
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Wed Jul-28-10 10:33 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Get lost. At some point, we have to trust someone. Or move. |
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No Elephants
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Wed Jul-28-10 10:50 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. I trust the rule of law we've been under since 1789. At some point, so should our government. |
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babylonsister
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Wed Jul-28-10 10:56 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. So we should follow the rule of law from 1789? |
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pschoeb
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Wed Jul-28-10 11:19 PM Response to Reply #31 |
44. So are you saying the Constitution is just a piece of paper? |
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babylonsister
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Wed Jul-28-10 11:26 PM Response to Reply #44 |
49. LOL! yes, that's what I'm saying. It sucks, pass it on. |
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pschoeb
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Wed Jul-28-10 11:47 PM Response to Reply #49 |
53. It's really the only way I can read your statement |
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boppers
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Thu Jul-29-10 12:57 AM Response to Reply #53 |
70. Your internet link, and traffic, is (most likely) not: |
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No Elephants
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Thu Jul-29-10 01:15 AM Response to Reply #70 |
72. Employer networks are different. I am not sending emails on a govt. network. |
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boppers
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Thu Jul-29-10 01:29 AM Response to Reply #72 |
77. If you are at home, on the Internet, it is not your network once it leaves the house. |
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No Elephants
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Thu Jul-29-10 01:53 AM Response to Reply #77 |
84. Um, I never once said a thing about "my" personal network. |
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boppers
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Thu Jul-29-10 02:09 AM Response to Reply #84 |
89. Employer: A business who is not you. ISP: A business who is not you. |
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No Elephants
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Thu Jul-29-10 02:19 AM Response to Reply #89 |
93. Yes, but the ISP and the government are not the same thing. You're conflating. |
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boppers
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Thu Jul-29-10 02:23 AM Response to Reply #93 |
95. Good point, but mostly moot. |
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No Elephants
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Thu Jul-29-10 02:34 AM Response to Reply #95 |
100. Not moot at all. the govt's right to get this info via NSL, w/o warrant, is the very issue of the OP |
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Thu Jul-29-10 02:13 PM Response to Reply #89 |
209. By that logic Fedex has every right to read and copy legal documents I send via FedEx |
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OnyxCollie
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Thu Jul-29-10 01:20 AM Response to Reply #70 |
75. "Your internet link, and traffic, is (most likely) not:" |
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boppers
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Thu Jul-29-10 01:49 AM Response to Reply #75 |
82. Analog phones: not computer network communication. |
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No Elephants
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Thu Jul-29-10 02:06 AM Response to Reply #82 |
88. Did you read the part of the court opinion that the poster bolded? |
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boppers
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Thu Jul-29-10 02:19 AM Response to Reply #88 |
92. Oh yes, I read that. |
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No Elephants
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Thu Jul-29-10 02:46 AM Response to Reply #92 |
103. Nah. Emailing from my own computer in my own home is nothing like screaming in a public |
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boppers
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Thu Jul-29-10 04:47 PM Response to Reply #103 |
214. Postcard is perhaps a more functional analogy. |
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OnyxCollie
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Thu Jul-29-10 02:14 AM Response to Reply #82 |
90. More argumentative fallacies. |
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boppers
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Thu Jul-29-10 02:26 AM Response to Reply #90 |
96. What's the "You are!" argument fallacy? |
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OnyxCollie
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Thu Jul-29-10 02:31 AM Response to Reply #96 |
97. You mean it's not in your little Rolodex |
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boppers
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Thu Jul-29-10 02:36 AM Response to Reply #97 |
101. I figured you, of all people, would have it handy. |
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OnyxCollie
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Thu Jul-29-10 02:38 AM Response to Reply #101 |
102. Yes, you fail. |
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No Elephants
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Thu Jul-29-10 03:02 AM Response to Reply #96 |
104. Maybe it's along the lines of one of these: |
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pschoeb
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Thu Jul-29-10 01:30 AM Response to Reply #70 |
78. This is about Email, which is covered under Stored Communications Act |
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HALO141
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Thu Jul-29-10 11:44 AM Response to Reply #70 |
183. By that logic they wouldn't need a warrant to tap your phone, either. |
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No Elephants
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Thu Jul-29-10 12:58 AM Response to Reply #53 |
71. This may seem like splitting hairs, but it's an important distinction, IMO: |
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No Elephants
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Thu Jul-29-10 12:41 AM Response to Reply #49 |
67. Um, that IS what your post to me amounted to. |
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No Elephants
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Thu Jul-29-10 12:39 AM Response to Reply #31 |
66. As a reply to my post, your post makes no sense. Do you understand |
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Thu Jul-29-10 10:32 AM Response to Reply #31 |
170. bush made that same argument.. |
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Thu Jul-29-10 11:17 AM Response to Reply #24 |
177. It appears that you UNDERSTAND it perfectly well |
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defendandprotect
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Thu Jul-29-10 01:08 PM Response to Reply #24 |
203. We trusted Democrats in '06 . . . and Obama in 2008 . . . how's that working out? |
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Thu Jul-29-10 08:47 PM Response to Reply #24 |
240. "Get lost"?? "Stop trying to stir up shit"?? WTF is wrong with you?? |
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OnyxCollie
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Wed Jul-28-10 11:08 PM Response to Reply #3 |
37. "'if agents deem the information relevant to a terrorism or intelligence investigation.' |
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Wed Jul-28-10 11:09 PM Response to Reply #3 |
39. "if you're not doing anything wrong you have nothing to worry about" |
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Iowa
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Wed Jul-28-10 11:21 PM Response to Reply #3 |
45. Pathetic. |
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Enthusiast
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Thu Jul-29-10 06:58 AM Response to Reply #3 |
119. They can deem anything relevant |
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Thu Jul-29-10 09:54 AM Response to Reply #3 |
153. This is just abuse waiting to happen. |
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Thu Jul-29-10 10:47 AM Response to Reply #3 |
172. They can get a warrent if they have probable cause |
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Thu Jul-29-10 12:35 PM Response to Reply #3 |
187. "I have no problem with this" |
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Thu Jul-29-10 01:06 PM Response to Reply #3 |
201. "If the agents deem" is directly contradictory to "Warrants shall not be issued, but upon probable |
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Thu Jul-29-10 01:48 PM Response to Reply #3 |
208. I'm having a problem seeing the difference. |
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Thu Jul-29-10 09:26 PM Response to Reply #3 |
248. If they have suspicions |
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laughingliberal
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Wed Jul-28-10 09:50 PM Response to Original message |
4. *&^%)*& nm |
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Richard Steele
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Wed Jul-28-10 10:00 PM Response to Original message |
8. OBAMA: A kinder, gentler B*sh Administration. It's fucking disgusting. nm |
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Iowa
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Wed Jul-28-10 11:21 PM Response to Reply #8 |
46. +1 |
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Thu Jul-29-10 01:42 AM Response to Reply #8 |
81. +1,000 |
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GodlessBiker
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Thu Jul-29-10 04:01 AM Response to Reply #8 |
108. +10,000. Power corrupts. |
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Thu Jul-29-10 08:38 AM Response to Reply #8 |
134. I'm sad to say, you're correct. |
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defendandprotect
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Thu Jul-29-10 01:14 PM Response to Reply #8 |
204. +1000% ..... and much ahead of us yet .. . . Obama vs Social Security/Medicare . . .!!! |
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inna
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Thu Jul-29-10 09:02 PM Response to Reply #8 |
243. disgusting beyond words. |
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CreekDog
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Wed Jul-28-10 10:03 PM Response to Original message |
9. Constitutional scholar |
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williesgirl
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Wed Jul-28-10 10:07 PM Response to Original message |
10. This is bullshit! Let them go to FISA court, but not just cause they "deem" it necessary. |
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defendandprotect
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Wed Jul-28-10 10:08 PM Response to Original message |
11. Isn't this something that Bush would have done . . .???? Didn't we have an election??? |
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QC
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Thu Jul-29-10 09:05 AM Response to Reply #11 |
139. Yes, but it was bad when Bush did it. It's OK when our guy does it, though. n/t |
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defendandprotect
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Thu Jul-29-10 12:40 PM Response to Reply #139 |
189. Right . . . "bad when Bush does it/OK when our guy does it" ..!! |
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defendandprotect
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Wed Jul-28-10 10:09 PM Response to Original message |
12. K&R -- and keep this kicked -- shameful!! |
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Canuckistanian
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Wed Jul-28-10 10:09 PM Response to Original message |
13. Add ths to your "Obama follows Bush" Google searches |
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Solly Mack
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Wed Jul-28-10 10:10 PM Response to Original message |
14. K&R |
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Wed Jul-28-10 10:12 PM Response to Original message |
15. Seems the only real change has been hope of change |
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Wed Jul-28-10 10:13 PM Response to Original message |
17. The Palmer Raids also occurred under a democratic administration... |
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Wed Jul-28-10 10:18 PM Response to Original message |
20. internet should not be tracked at all without a warrant nt |
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Wed Jul-28-10 10:20 PM Response to Original message |
21. Here's one reason not to give the FBI more power |
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Wed Jul-28-10 10:56 PM Response to Reply #21 |
30. The same no fly list that gave Sen. Ted Kennedy so much trouble? |
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Thu Jul-29-10 10:53 AM Response to Reply #30 |
174. The same list that has four, five and six year old children on it |
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Wed Jul-28-10 10:38 PM Response to Original message |
26. LOL. I'm so glad to be on DU and read all of these profound |
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Thu Jul-29-10 08:59 AM Response to Reply #26 |
138. Your posts on this thread have been disgusting to read |
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Thu Jul-29-10 11:39 AM Response to Reply #138 |
182. She kind of 'exposed' herself on this one, didn't she? n/t |
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Thu Jul-29-10 09:04 PM Response to Reply #138 |
244. disgusting to boot. sickening. nt |
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Thu Jul-29-10 11:33 AM Response to Reply #26 |
181. . |
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Thu Jul-29-10 11:50 AM Response to Reply #26 |
184. it's a real eye-opener how disappointing your posts have become |
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Wed Jul-28-10 10:57 PM Response to Original message |
32. With each freedom we give up, the terrorists are that much |
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Wed Jul-28-10 11:02 PM Response to Original message |
35. The FBI wants that information? |
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Thu Jul-29-10 12:44 AM Response to Reply #35 |
69. They already have that information. |
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Thu Jul-29-10 01:19 AM Response to Reply #69 |
74. If they already have it, let them go to a FISA court for approval. |
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Thu Jul-29-10 02:03 AM Response to Reply #74 |
86. FISA does not apply. |
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Thu Jul-29-10 02:14 AM Response to Reply #86 |
91. So let them get approval from a court that is NOT a Fisa court, the salient issue being |
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Thu Jul-29-10 02:33 AM Response to Reply #91 |
99. Why should a private business need approval to disclose logs? |
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Thu Jul-29-10 03:56 AM Response to Reply #99 |
107. Change the subject much? |
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Thu Jul-29-10 04:53 PM Response to Reply #107 |
216. Health records, by law, have greater protection. |
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Thu Jul-29-10 02:23 AM Response to Reply #86 |
94. Wrong again. |
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Thu Jul-29-10 03:47 AM Response to Reply #86 |
106. P.S. What "FI" stands for is irrelevant. |
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Thu Jul-29-10 04:42 PM Response to Reply #106 |
213. A bit about SCA... |
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Thu Jul-29-10 07:51 AM Response to Reply #86 |
123. Then they should get a warrant. It is not acceptable for them to seek |
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Thu Jul-29-10 05:39 AM Response to Reply #69 |
112. This right here is the money shot, thank you. |
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Wed Jul-28-10 11:08 PM Response to Original message |
38. Hey, if you’re not doing anything wrong, you have nothing to worry about! |
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Wed Jul-28-10 11:59 PM Response to Reply #38 |
57. Exactly what the Bushbots said when Bush was in office. And, in fairness, |
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Wed Jul-28-10 11:24 PM Response to Original message |
47. K&R |
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Wed Jul-28-10 11:31 PM Response to Original message |
50. Internet privacy: Stolen by both corporations and government, also close bedfellas. n/t |
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Wed Jul-28-10 11:39 PM Response to Original message |
51. Oh no, no, no, no... |
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Wed Jul-28-10 11:56 PM Response to Original message |
55. Obama: "I'll fight to strip telecom immunity from FISA.... |
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Thu Jul-29-10 01:33 AM Response to Reply #55 |
79. Snap! |
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Thu Jul-29-10 01:41 AM Response to Reply #55 |
80. This move by Obama is to the right of Bush. |
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Thu Jul-29-10 01:21 PM Response to Reply #80 |
206. How else could it have been done . . . ??? |
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Fri Jul-30-10 01:31 AM Response to Reply #206 |
253. I suppose so |
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Sat Jul-31-10 12:27 AM Response to Reply #253 |
255. Don't know that anyone covered this . . . |
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Thu Jul-29-10 01:19 PM Response to Reply #55 |
205. Thanks, No Elephants . . . saved that info -- |
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Thu Jul-29-10 09:24 PM Response to Reply #55 |
247. Great post! -nt |
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Thu Jul-29-10 12:06 AM Response to Original message |
59. K&R. nt |
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Thu Jul-29-10 12:10 AM Response to Original message |
60. And the hits just keep on comin |
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Thu Jul-29-10 01:21 PM Response to Reply #60 |
207. The "Shock & Awe" see saw -- |
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Thu Jul-29-10 12:11 AM Response to Original message |
61. LOL, this is funny, if delusional |
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Thu Jul-29-10 01:26 AM Response to Reply #61 |
76. There's a difference between what you're talking about and knowing |
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Thu Jul-29-10 01:59 AM Response to Reply #76 |
85. grep -R "noelephants" /var/log/sendmail* > output.log |
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Thu Jul-29-10 03:18 AM Response to Reply #85 |
105. LOL. That has absolutely nothing to do with Reply 76., I did not ask how to retreive the info. |
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Thu Jul-29-10 12:22 AM Response to Original message |
63. This is a clear violation of the Constitution. |
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Thu Jul-29-10 12:44 PM Response to Reply #63 |
190. Private interests, as near as I recall, are LEASED or PERMITTED use of public airwaves ... |
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Thu Jul-29-10 05:30 PM Response to Reply #190 |
227. The smiley face at the end of all your posts |
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Sat Jul-31-10 12:23 AM Response to Reply #227 |
254. Interesting take -- |
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Thu Jul-29-10 03:06 PM Response to Reply #63 |
211. Who owns the cables we send data through, though? |
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Thu Jul-29-10 12:35 AM Response to Original message |
64. Yikes! |
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Thu Jul-29-10 01:17 AM Response to Original message |
73. Business as usual in the USAmerikan Empire (n/t) |
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Thu Jul-29-10 01:49 AM Response to Original message |
83. This is the same FBI whose agents are cheating on their tests |
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Thu Jul-29-10 02:32 AM Response to Original message |
98. This is illegal k*r |
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Thu Jul-29-10 04:29 AM Response to Original message |
109. Obama's propensity to continue and in fact, |
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Thu Jul-29-10 04:36 AM Response to Original message |
110. What is the FBI's track record re: abusing National Security Letters? |
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Thu Jul-29-10 04:54 AM Response to Original message |
111. K&R nt. |
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Thu Jul-29-10 05:57 AM Response to Original message |
114. So Now Obama Joins the Crowd Who Thinks The Constitution is "Just a Gawd Damned Piece of Paper." |
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Thu Jul-29-10 06:23 AM Response to Original message |
115. How can the Administration defend this? |
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Thu Jul-29-10 06:50 AM Response to Original message |
118. Isn't this the exact same shit that Bush was pulling? |
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Thu Jul-29-10 10:04 AM Response to Reply #118 |
158. Not quite. It's an expansion on an already horribly bad Bush |
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Thu Jul-29-10 10:50 AM Response to Reply #158 |
173. Regardless. |
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Thu Jul-29-10 11:02 AM Response to Reply #173 |
176. There is no alternative. |
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Thu Jul-29-10 07:00 AM Response to Original message |
120. don't worry the fbi would never misuse this |
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Thu Jul-29-10 07:19 AM Response to Original message |
122. obama = fail. |
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Thu Jul-29-10 07:54 AM Response to Original message |
124. Iran much? |
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Thu Jul-29-10 07:55 AM Response to Original message |
125. More creeping police state BS! |
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Thu Jul-29-10 07:56 AM Response to Original message |
126. "It'll be faster and easier to get the data," ... |
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Thu Jul-29-10 08:18 AM Response to Original message |
129. I have a spare bedroom ...maybe they should just move in. |
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Thu Jul-29-10 12:49 PM Response to Reply #129 |
192. Oh . . . thanks for the laugh . . . eases the pain of this stupidity . . .!!! |
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Thu Jul-29-10 08:22 AM Response to Original message |
130. Thanks Mr. Obama... |
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Thu Jul-29-10 08:28 AM Response to Original message |
131. No warrant equals rampant abuse. n/t |
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Thu Jul-29-10 08:32 AM Response to Original message |
133. It's Not About Security |
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Thu Jul-29-10 08:54 AM Response to Original message |
136. Wow this is just awesome |
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Thu Jul-29-10 08:55 AM Response to Original message |
137. We really hated it when Bush did stuff like this. |
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Thu Jul-29-10 05:27 PM Response to Reply #137 |
226. . |
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Thu Jul-29-10 09:12 AM Response to Original message |
140. Obama Administration Wants to Make Domestic Surveillance Power Grab |
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Thu Jul-29-10 09:15 AM Response to Original message |
142. The more things change, the more they stay the same. |
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Thu Jul-29-10 09:44 AM Response to Original message |
149. WTF? I thought Dubya was voted out in 2008 |
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Thu Jul-29-10 09:48 AM Response to Original message |
151. Change? |
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Thu Jul-29-10 09:57 AM Response to Original message |
154. Thanks for the reminder. I needed to donate some more to the ACLU, EPIC, & EFF. n/t |
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Thu Jul-29-10 09:59 AM Response to Original message |
155. It's not about privacy, or rights any more, it's a class war for sure. |
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Thu Jul-29-10 10:00 AM Response to Original message |
156. Doesn't come as |
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Thu Jul-29-10 10:02 AM Response to Original message |
157. My God, we need protection from our protectors. |
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Thu Jul-29-10 10:06 AM Response to Reply #157 |
160. Every 4 years it's up for sale in the General election. n/t |
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Thu Jul-29-10 10:05 AM Response to Original message |
159. Oh the irony: "lawyers" and "officials" are anonymous! |
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Thu Jul-29-10 10:09 AM Response to Original message |
161. Deleted message |
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Thu Jul-29-10 10:15 AM Response to Original message |
163. I Find This Very Disturbing |
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Thu Jul-29-10 10:24 AM Response to Original message |
168. &^%$#@ |
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Thu Jul-29-10 11:01 AM Response to Original message |
175. WHAT? |
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Thu Jul-29-10 12:03 PM Response to Original message |
185. Framing .... always the framing ..... |
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Thu Jul-29-10 12:47 PM Response to Reply #185 |
191. "EASE" . . . Gold Star for OBSERVATION . . . |
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Thu Jul-29-10 12:25 PM Response to Original message |
186. From freedom of association |
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Thu Jul-29-10 12:37 PM Response to Original message |
188. Internet crime and fraud is growing. BushCo. all but ignored it |
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Thu Jul-29-10 05:26 PM Response to Reply #188 |
225. Let them get warrants I say. nt |
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Thu Jul-29-10 12:59 PM Response to Original message |
195. He wants to see our info, but but does not want us to see the govt info about the war. |
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Thu Jul-29-10 03:04 PM Response to Original message |
210. This is why you use encryption, brethren and sistren |
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Thu Jul-29-10 04:58 PM Response to Reply #210 |
218. +1 |
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Thu Jul-29-10 04:25 PM Response to Original message |
212. DANGER, DANGER, DANGER |
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Thu Jul-29-10 04:49 PM Response to Original message |
215. Sounds like a very detailed lawyer dispute over whether |
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Thu Jul-29-10 05:17 PM Response to Reply #215 |
223. Too complex for us to understand? |
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Thu Jul-29-10 06:09 PM Response to Reply #223 |
229. It probably does take wading through pages of boring legal stuff |
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Thu Jul-29-10 06:56 PM Response to Reply #229 |
232. You may only see this as a boring legalize argument, I see this as extremely invasive and |
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Thu Jul-29-10 05:18 PM Response to Original message |
224. Don't look to me to defend this one. |
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Thu Jul-29-10 05:49 PM Response to Original message |
228. Now the Obama flip flop on FISA makes much more sense. |
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Thu Jul-29-10 08:31 PM Response to Reply #228 |
239. Sad isn't it. No matter who in the administration pushing this shit. I just don't believe |
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Thu Jul-29-10 06:46 PM Response to Original message |
231. :sigh: Of course it would |
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Thu Jul-29-10 07:07 PM Response to Original message |
233. Just firming up the Police State Powers... |
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Thu Jul-29-10 07:37 PM Response to Original message |
235. Relax... |
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Thu Jul-29-10 08:21 PM Response to Original message |
237. But, but Obama really is on our side |
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Thu Jul-29-10 08:26 PM Response to Original message |
238. Who in the fucking administration? Who Hissyspit? Mr. President? |
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Thu Jul-29-10 08:49 PM Response to Original message |
241. K&R. Disturbing as hell. |
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Thu Jul-29-10 09:23 PM Response to Original message |
246. I guess he wisely decided not to disclose this when he addressed the netroots convention. |
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Thu Jul-29-10 09:33 PM Response to Original message |
249. Yet, another blow to freedom. :( n/t |
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Thu Jul-29-10 09:51 PM Response to Original message |
250. Why is everybody upset about this? |
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Thu Jul-29-10 11:37 PM Response to Reply #250 |
251. You might want the tag |
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Fri Jul-30-10 12:37 AM Response to Original message |
252. Change you can believe in, but I can't |
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Sat Jul-31-10 06:28 AM Response to Reply #252 |
256. You beat me to it. (n/t) |
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Sat Jul-31-10 06:43 AM Response to Original message |
257. horrible... |
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Sat Jul-31-10 09:28 AM Response to Original message |
258. This is not acceptable. |
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