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Rage Inc. Donating Member (429 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-10 01:14 AM
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Federal Judge Rules Bush Program Illegally Wiretapped Americans
Source: Huffington Post

SAN FRANCISCO — In a repudiation of the Bush administration's now-defunct terrorist surveillance effort, a federal judge ruled Wednesday that government investigators illegally wiretapped the phone conversations of an Islamic charity and two American lawyers without a search warrant.

U.S. District Court Judge Vaughn Walker said the plaintiffs provided enough evidence to show "they were subjected to warrantless electronic surveillance" by the National Security Agency. The judge's 45-page ruling focused narrowly on the case involving the Al-Haramain Islamic Foundation, touching vaguely on the larger question of the program's legality.

Nonetheless, Al-Haramain lawyer Jon Eisenberg said the ruling had larger implications. "By virtue of finding what the Bush administration did to our clients was illegal, he found that the Terrorist Surveillance Program was unlawful," Eisenberg said.

Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/31/alharamain-islamic-founda_n_520548.html



B-B-But John Ashcroft s-said it was o-k-k-k-ay!
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-10 01:18 AM
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1. The first of many Bush regime programs that will be found illegal.
I am sure we haven't scratched the surface yet.

mark
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kas125 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-10 01:28 AM
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2. Okay, it was illegal. We knew that already, but now it's
official. When will we see them in handcuffs?
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Rage Inc. Donating Member (429 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-10 01:37 AM
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3. Most likely? The day after the National Hockey League awards
a franchise to Hell!
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-10 01:47 AM
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4. But it's time to "move forward" and "heal".
:eyes:
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Rage Inc. Donating Member (429 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-10 01:57 AM
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5. Correction
Time to move, fuck words, and bring BushCo to heel!
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-10 03:03 AM
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6. Until the next John Yoo justifies it.
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Rage Inc. Donating Member (429 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-10 04:06 AM
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7. John WHO?
Were there any real justice in this country, that would already be his name!
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-10 09:44 AM
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33. Yep, according to Yoo, ANYTHING the Pres does in a time of war is justified
Despite the precedent of Youngstown
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-10 05:00 AM
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8. was expecting this to be an April Fool's joke ...
but the original news story was dated 3/31 ...
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-10 05:02 AM
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9. There you go again...
DON'T LOOK BACK!
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NecklyTyler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-10 05:48 AM
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10. Paging Eric Holder, Paging Eric Holder ...
I want to see some Grand Jury indictments. Once the Attorney General is on track to convict one of the Bush inner circle, the implication of accomplices will eventually send the all to jail. We have got to get that first conviction though
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salguine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-10 05:52 AM
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11. And not a goddamn thing will be done about it. Especially by this Administration.
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Lost4words Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-10 09:25 AM
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26. I am afraid you are correct, Bush and his admin get a free pass
laws and consequence are for the little people.
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katandmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-10 09:27 AM
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28. Actually, Obama's DOJ did plenty already . It took exactly the same position Bush's DOJ did.
Obama's DOJ is just as criminal as Buah's was.
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WVRICK13 Donating Member (930 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-10 06:27 AM
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12. We Now Have Legal Proof
what are they going to do about it?
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whatacountry09 Donating Member (78 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-10 06:33 AM
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13. yeah... and?????
It's okay; found to be ILLEGAL, but hey... let's just forget about it. He was the president... therefore, like all government officials... he IS above the law; it's not like we're gonna prosecute him or anything because then... we'd have to prosecute our current president too - AND THAT'S NOT HAPPENING!

So... not really a story here. We knew this already and we also know that nothing ever comes of these allegations anyway.
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-10 06:46 AM
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14. since this isn't about sex in the oval office, the media will ignore it
and, that sex must be performed by a politician with a D after their name.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-10 06:53 AM
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15. So are we going to hold BushCo accountable?
doubtful. :(
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Lost4words Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-10 09:28 AM
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29. are you kidding? Management protects its own, always.
Bush and Barak Obama are members of a very special club, we are not allowed to join.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-10 09:55 AM
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34. Yeah, I was kidding...
I agree with you. They're members of a club we'd never be allowed to join.
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grahamhgreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-10 07:10 AM
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16. Looking forward... To Bush crimes prosecution......!
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Lost4words Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-10 09:29 AM
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30. Dont hold your breath.... nt
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Soylent Brice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-10 07:17 AM
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17. so, can we prosecute now? n/t
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SlingBlade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-10 07:31 AM
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18. now-defunct ? Wanna Bet ?
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potone Donating Member (359 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-10 07:48 AM
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19. I understand all this cynicism, but this is still good news!
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RedstDem Donating Member (356 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-10 08:37 AM
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20. Wonder how long the judge had to think that over
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anachro1 Donating Member (388 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-10 08:38 AM
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21. And we
already knew this.
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Chef Eric Donating Member (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-10 08:40 AM
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22. But, but... At least Bush is not a SOCIALIST. That's the most important thing. nt
:sarcasm:
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-10 08:53 AM
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23. Once again; the NSA did the spying and the Justice Department was the
.... the muscle w/ the U.S. Attorneys as the hit men.

The wiretapping was never about fighting or stopping terrorists because
the first wiretaps went in in Feb. or March 2001 in San Francisco w/ the
help of ATT.

BTW nobody will be held accountable for anything.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-10 10:10 AM
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36. True... wiretapping begun by Bush as soon as he walked into Oval Office . . .!!!
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jeremyfive Donating Member (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-10 08:59 AM
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24. So Bush Is Due For a Good Long Stretch in the Pen?
Wonder how well that anti-bacterial lotion will work for him in the big house?
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raouldukelives Donating Member (945 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-10 09:20 AM
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25. Just one more thing for the Texas textbooks to omit
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placton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-10 09:26 AM
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27. THIS IS OBAMA'S PROGRAM TOO
Edited on Thu Apr-01-10 09:27 AM by placton
his administration took over defending this crap. Just sayin'
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Lost4words Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-10 09:38 AM
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32.  President Obama is afraid of George W Bush, what other reason could there be?
I cant imagine any other reason why we would not focus on past high level crimes against our nation. We cannot say we are a nation of laws when we let presidents start phony wars for profit.
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-10 09:30 AM
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31. Correction, Ashcroft said torture was OK. He wasn't
too happy about the wiretapping. I think that's one of the reasons he stepped down in '84. So he's only half an ass. Or half-assed.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-10 10:08 AM
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35. And, where's the military? TORTURE was barred by military law, as well . . .
Where's the ABA to suspend or revoke licenses of those who tortured the law,

bent and distorted it in order to torture?

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melm00se Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-10 10:34 AM
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37. and by a Bush I
appointee too.
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doctorspa Donating Member (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-10 11:07 AM
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38. Obama just keeps doing the same thing
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123638765474658467.html
Obama just keeps doing the same thing that the bush administration was doing
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Lil Missy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-10 05:19 PM
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39. No. Shit.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-10 05:43 PM
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40. Kicked and recommended.
Thanks for the thread, Rage Inc.:thumbsup:
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