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Newsjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 09:55 AM
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Consumer prices excluding food and energy fall
Source: Associated Press

Consumer prices rose less than expected in January while prices excluding food and energy actually fell, something that hasn't happened in more than a quarter-century.

The Labor Department said Friday that consumer prices edged up 0.2 percent in January while prices excluding food and energy slipped 0.1 percent. That was the first monthly decline since December 1982.

The benign inflation news gives the Federal Reserve more time to keep interest rates at record-low levels to shore up the economy and should ease worries in financial markets that a Fed rate hike is more imminent.

... The 0.1 percent fall in core inflation, which excludes energy and food, was the first monthly decrease in core inflation since a similar 0.1 percent fall in December 1982. This drop reflected falling prices for shelter, new cars and airline fares.

Read more: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Consumer-prices-excluding-apf-1789869500.html?x=0&sec=topStories&pos=2&asset=&ccode=
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CatholicEdHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 10:05 AM
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1. About those energy costs
(from the article above)
The 0.2 percent rise in overall prices reflected a 2.8 percent jump in energy costs, the biggest one-month gain since August. Energy prices were driven up by a 4.4 percent rise in gasoline pump prices and a 3.5 percent increase in the cost of natural gas.

Yep, gas and hence food will stay expensive. This metric does not say anything meaningful.
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 10:05 AM
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2. that's because all we can buy
Edited on Fri Feb-19-10 10:06 AM by WhiteTara
is food and fuel. The rest is on sale to tempt anyone with a dollar left over.

edited to add...food prices are up here. fuel is also slightly down (3cents)
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blueworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 08:01 PM
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23. +100 n/t
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 10:14 AM
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3. food prices are not falling in southern california, sorry to say nt
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Jim__ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 10:38 AM
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6. Core inflation excludes food prices - n/t
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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 10:52 PM
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24. They are falling where I am
And when my garden gets growing this spring, they will fall a LOT more.
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dmallind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 10:16 AM
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4. Quantitative easing always drives hyperinflation! OK..... NT
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Highway61 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 10:34 AM
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5. Falling?
Where? Not here I tell ya.
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KeepItReal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 10:50 AM
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7. Wiki says this "Core Inflation" measurement has been used by Fed only since Feb 2000
Before 2000, the Consumer Price Index was used. The CPI is still used for Social Security indexing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Core_inflation
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mbperrin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 10:59 AM
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9. Fraudulent numbers used to make things look rosy??? Who'da guessed?
Lessee, what lying no good fuckers were in office in 2000 when this fraud began?


Oh, if only I could remember...
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KeepItReal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 11:05 AM
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10. Appears to be one "Alan Greenspan" was chairman of the Federal Reserve
...when that little switcheroo was made.

He of "Adjustable Rate Mortgages Are Fine, Go Get 'Em!" fame.
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mbperrin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 12:58 PM
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16. Well, thank gawd these folks in now will instantly end that fraud!!!
Right?
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 01:10 PM
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17. Hint:
{{clinton}}
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Psephos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 03:32 PM
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20. Just a thought, but * wasn't sworn in until January 2001. n/t
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mbperrin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 04:07 PM
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22. And thank goodness he ended it immediately! Wait...
nt
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 12:19 AM
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26. Bill Clinton. GWB didn't take the oath of office until January 2001. nt
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PSPS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 10:56 AM
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8. It's amusing to see the fraud behind the numbers in the headline
Usually, the headline is written "Lowest Inflation ever!!11!! Prices are falling!!11!!! Time to BUY!11!!" And then, buried in the article, is the disclaimer that the "positive" news is based on this index which "excludes things that increased in price."
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peace13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 11:09 AM
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11. Food, energy and insurance......need I say more?
If I took those three items out of my budget quite frankly, there is not much left.
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hayu_lol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 11:17 AM
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12. The depression is still alive and well...
Have one med that I have to take that doubled in price: about $60 in January, $131 in Feb. Guess they didn't include meds.
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Heywood J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 12:15 PM
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15. About $5? (nt)
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 11:19 AM
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13. LOLOLOLOLOL - food and energy are all I have money for.
Everything else is optional right now (not counting rent).

Why don't they bother tracking the cost of food with inflation, since it is such a large part of what the poor spend? Same for energy?
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endless october Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 11:21 AM
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14. there is no way to measure without including food and energy.
everyone buys food and energy. any figure that excludes them is a bullshit figure.
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 03:36 PM
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21. Consumer price index for things people don't consume.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 12:20 AM
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27. I'll tell you that life would be much easier if I didn't need food to live.
But I guess that's the realm of gods and spirits.
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LeftHander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 01:24 PM
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18. "D" word....deflation....
everyone said no no no but here in reality land prices are falling as well as the selection of goods and services available to the consumer.

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DesertDiamond Donating Member (838 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 03:18 PM
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19. Since they exclude the basics of life, these numbers are meaningless. Many of us can't afford
anything beyond the basics. So these numbers are BS.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 11:57 PM
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25. Bloomberg news recently stated foreclosures will pass 2009 numbers by the 4th quarter
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