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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 10:42 AM
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Evan Bayh to retire
Source: Politico

Evan Bayh to retire

Indiana Sen. Evan Bayh will not seek re-election this year, a decision that hands Republicans a prime pickup opportunity in the middle of the country.

"After all these years, my passion for service to my fellow citizens is undiminished, but my desire to do so by serving in Congress has waned," Bayh will say.

Bayh will announce the decision at a press conference later today. He was first elected to the Senate in 1998 and was re-elected easily in 2004. National Republicans had recruited former Sen. Dan Coats to challenge Bayh in 2010 although polling suggested Bayh began the race with a 20-point edge. He also had $13 million in the bank at the end of the year.

Prior to being in the Senate, Bayh served two terms as governor of the Hoosier State. He also served briefly as Secretary of State.

Read more: http://voices.washingtonpost.com/thefix/senate/evan-bay...
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 10:43 AM
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1. 
I hope to hell they have a good progressive on tap to replace him.
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 10:48 AM
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6. That "good progressive" needs to beat a Republican opponent...
in a fairly conservative state. Is that possible?
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 10:52 AM
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9. More possible than a Republican-Lite beating a real Republican.
Remember Harry Truman's principle.

With incredibly high unemployment, people's retirements down the tubes, housing dead, health care a disaster, etc., and all of this demonstrably attributable to 8 years of Republican mismanagement, I think true progressives have a pretty good chance almost everywhere.
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humbled_opinion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 12:29 PM
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61. Too bad the electorate doesn't really agree with your sentiment
Haven't you noticed that the new meme is the incompetence of Obama and his mismanagement of a terrible economy. Granted the electorate acknowledges that Bush turned over a terrible watch but they also admit that Economically only the last 2 years of Bush's regime were demonstrably terrible and remember the media is running cover on 6 years of the Bush presidency giving him credit for keeping the country afloat after the trillion dollar disaster of 911 and the trillion dollar disaster of katrina. What disaster has added to Obama's deficit? None yet. If the country actually believed what your post states then we would be seeing more good will toward Obama in fixing the problems of the past and we don't.

Next: The repukes fully intend to turn the narrative into an incompetent congress that was elected in 2006 and left Obama a mess, remember only the Congress can appropriate money, democrats controlled Congress starting in Jan 2007, Obama's inherited claim is about to be put to the test that he actually inherited this defecit from fellow Democrats...

There is a Tsunami coming and the sooner we get the pollyanna glasses off, recognize it and come together with some type of plan to counter it the better.
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Psephos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 03:25 PM
Response to Reply #61
156. True words are not beautiful; beautiful words are not true.
Your words are true.
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Knight Hawk Donating Member (336 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 04:14 PM
Response to Reply #61
166. You are right
Could not agree with you more .You have correctly read the zeitgeist of the country.
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NoFace Donating Member (200 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 04:23 PM
Response to Reply #61
168. Translation: The American Public has the attention span of a Fruit Fly. NT
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 05:04 PM
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173. The media constantly tells the American Public they have the attention of a Fruit Fly.
That's different than actually having it.
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Chemical Bill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 07:20 PM
Response to Reply #61
205. I couldn't disagree more.
The media is pushing all the ideas you state, but most people I talk to don't buy it.

The Tsunami you talk about is in the hands of corporations that own voting machines, and out of the hands of the voters, we haven't had a say for over a decade.


Bill
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humbled_opinion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 07:36 PM
Response to Reply #205
208. You need to get outside your little comfortable circle...
of no doubt like minded individuals.

If you were correct that majority felt that way then why is the President's approval on various items in his agenda terribly low?

The Repubs are on a crusade to destroy the Credibility of the President.

The Problem for the President is making his rhetoric match his actions.

This is crunch time he must step up and lead. Enough talk.

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Chemical Bill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 07:39 PM
Response to Reply #208
209. Hey, look!
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Chemical Bill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 07:44 PM
Response to Reply #208
211. Did you see this?
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humbled_opinion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 09:16 PM
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225. Meaningless polls...
When you can adequately explain how a Repub won the governorship in NJ and Scott Brown won Ted Kennedys seat only 1 year after Obama won large majorities for Democrats and all this only 1 year after the worst President in our history and please don't bore me with how bad a candidate the Democrat was.

When you can explain to me how with majorities in the House and Senate Democrats fail to produce any meaningful legislation on Healthcare, Jobs or Environmental issues then we will talk
If you want to continue to bury your head and look at the electorate with Rose Colored glasses fine, but you do it at a detriment to us all.


The Repubs are running a game plan to paint Obama and most of the Democrat party as far Leftwing radicals, socialists and communists that are creating an intrusive big government so they can rule you in a totalitarian state. In case you haven't been paying attention there is a large grass roots uprising going on and it is not in favor of any Progressive legislation.
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Chemical Bill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 07:53 PM
Response to Reply #225
261. I would explain it thus:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

but of course you think polls are meaningless.

Bill
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Chemical Bill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 08:05 PM
Response to Reply #225
262. Also
While the HCR is a pitiful excuse for a bill, what with the full court press from insurance companies, there was this thing called a stimulus bill, which economists largely agree has worked up to a point but needs to be bigger next time. The environment is an example of the Obama administration at their best. Rather than waiting for congress, our president has put teeth back into the EPA. Does that address the issues in your second paragraph?

As for the grass roots, a clear majority has been in favor of government paid health care for quite some time. If there were any progressive legislation with that as it's aim, then it would be mainstream. Obviously then, any "uprising" counter to single payer is not grass roots, but astroturf.

Why are you so concerned with repeating the lies told by the repukes? Perhaps you might spend time countering them instead of repeating them.

Bill
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EJSTES2005 Donating Member (261 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 12:35 AM
Response to Reply #61
239. Well said,
Now he can go sign a multi-million dollar contract with some healthcare corp and not have to worry about reporting all that he is due for his part : (

What a fucking joke
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 08:06 AM
Response to Reply #61
242. Folks here...
.. seem to think that the electorate will be "fair" and remember who caused this meltdown.

LOLOLOLOL. That's not how American politics works. After two years you are suppposed to have at least made strides in correcting the problem. People are catching on to the FACT that all of the recovery talk is 100% bullshit.

And they are pissed that Obama has done nothing about the bankers. NOTHING. So trust me on this, we as the party in power in bad times getting worse will be PUNISHED in November, the only question is just how much.
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kenfrequed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 08:55 AM
Response to Reply #61
243. Feh
And if the DLC and blue dog bastards had let us take advantage of the great blue wave and institute a little progressive reform we might not be in this mess.
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humbled_opinion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 01:24 PM
Response to Reply #243
255. That is exactly right...
When given the opportunity to lead, lead you must, bold changes were required. The electorate understood it gave obama a super majority specifically to pass progressive legislation and we got hijacked by a bunch of so called centrists that were nothing more then GOP lite corporate shills.

there must be a clean break there must be concrete reform real actions...

Just ask yourself this simple test.... Why was Single Payer not even discussed in Healthcare? Are there actually Democrats that are adverse to this method of fxing the Healthcare system? If there are then they should become Repukes because that this the platform that will not recognize what this country needs.

Sometimes the government must take charge and create programs and manage the needs of the people....

That was the message of the 2008 election but it appears to have fallen on deaf ears.

I am so tired of fighting the good fight, I am truly about to say FUCK IT.
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kenfrequed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 02:26 PM
Response to Reply #255
256. Well
It would be hard to put a bigger corporate shill in his place without the guy actually being a republican. Someone has to come out with a hard as nails grass roots campaign. Surely there was someone in the background that was plotting a primary challenge against him.

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Ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 01:48 PM
Response to Reply #9
113. With high unemployment
Don't they usually vote for the party not in power?
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 04:04 PM
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164. Right . . . aren't people in Indiana concerned about the trade agreements? The war?
Though now that Dems have been re-financing the wars for three years --

and escalating in Afghanistan . . . hmmm....???

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Ozymanithrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 02:48 PM
Response to Reply #9
143. The electorate has no memory... Democrats are in power...they will be punished.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 03:59 PM
Response to Reply #143
161. Only if the Democratic Party doesn't strongly campaign to awaken them to their
stake in all of this --

and with Rahm Emmanuel and Keane, it's doubtful that's going to happen!

That's where the problem lies -- with leadership --

we have none!

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Ozymanithrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 07:43 PM
Response to Reply #161
210. Deeds not campaign rhetoric is what matters.
If the electorate perceives that the economy has turned around and their jobs are secure, Democrats will do well. If they perceive things are going badly, not so much.

In my experience, the bulk of American voters are bread and butter voters. By 2006, the cracks in the economy were already plain to see, and Dmeocrats were returned to power. Perception is everything.
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 04:11 PM
Response to Reply #9
165. Are there any "good progressives" in any red or purple states?
I cant think of any off the top of my head.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 04:56 PM
Response to Reply #9
172. Was Bayh a progressive? If not, how did he get elected to state-wide office five times?
:shrug:
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janet118 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 05:39 PM
Response to Reply #172
182. Nepotism?
Perhaps . . . Birch Bayh
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 08:46 PM
Response to Reply #172
217. You have anything but questions??? Possibly a thought of your own ? nt
Edited on Mon Feb-15-10 08:47 PM by rhett o rick
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kenfrequed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 09:00 AM
Response to Reply #172
244. Is this logic? If not why does it fail to account for the facts?
Well for starters primary challenges are few and usually not so successful.

Of course there is also the matter that incumbants always have a huge (and statistically provable) advantage in elections.

Honestly I am having difficulty ascertaining your point.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 10:57 AM
Response to Reply #172
253. Because Indiana won't elect a progressive
...and everybody here knows it.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 12:44 PM
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81. If that good progressive keeps his/her mouth shut about gun control, then maybe
A good economic progressive that goes to church, likes guns, and doesn't want government souvereignty over a person's body (pro-choice) or marriage (pro-marriage-equality) might work.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 08:50 PM
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219. I highly recommend losing anti-gun positions. Even a lot of liberals in the midwest
are gun owners.

You can't get elected to anything without at least feigning some degree of religiosity. Pro-choice, pro-marriage equality? Natch.

Sounds like a plan to me.

Also pro-labor/jobs, pro-health care reform (TRUE reform), etc. I think the public is more ready for progressivism than at any time in the last 30 years.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 01:29 AM
Response to Reply #219
240. A lot of liberals are gun owners, period. They're also religious, just...
..not whack-you-in-the-head-with-the-Bible religious. Get a guy who's religious but keeps it to himself, ignores the Brady Campaign, and talks about the two previous items AND pro-choice, pro-marriage-equality, pro-labor, and pro-HCR in terms or protecting individual rights, and we have someting.


Of course, all democratic candidates should be close to this way IMO. :shrug:
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kenfrequed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 10:48 AM
Response to Reply #219
247. I agree.
Maybe something like this...

"For a long time now we have tried to treat the symptom of violence through trying to control weapons in the hands of our own citizens. But the truth is that crime and violence is more a function of poverty and deprivation than it is armaments. As such the Democratic party will return to the tradition of FDR and seek to treat poverty and its causes rather than the symptom of crime"
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 07:17 PM
Response to Reply #247
260. That concisely and exactly states my position. Thanks.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 01:57 PM
Response to Reply #6
115. YES!
A Fire Breathing Populist Democrat who is unafraid to channel some Huey Long/FDR,
and avoids the social Wedge Issues CAN WIN ANYWHERE.

Unfortunately, this person would NOW be forced to Run AGAINST Obama and the Centrist Democrats.

1st Campaign Bumper Sticker:
YES!
You ARE getting screwed by The Big Banks!



"There are forces within the Democratic Party who want us to sound like kinder, gentler Republicans. I want us to compete for that great mass of voters that want a party that will stand up for working Americans, family farmers, and people who haven't felt the benefits of the economic upturn."---Paul Wellstone



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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 03:29 PM
Response to Reply #6
157. absolutely.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 11:11 PM
Response to Reply #6
234. We'll never know inless one runs. If a Dino loses to a Pub, would we know the difference?
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Juche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 11:05 AM
Response to Reply #1
18. LOL. We don't
Its a republican seat now.

Bayh was mostly reelected due to name recognition anyway. His dad was a big politician, and Bayh has served as Governor and Senator for decades.

So a no name progressive won't get anywhere.
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24601 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 01:37 PM
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108. Sen. Birch "Evan" Bayh is far more popular than this dad was. I can
remember (late 60s, early 70s) the elder Senator Bayh going around the Indy 500 track in a VIP car during pre-race festivities - he was resoundingly booed. Evan, who I knew when we were kids (67-67) in the Culver Academies Woodcraft Camp , on the other hand has consistently been uber-popular in the state, second only to Dick Lugar, a moderate repug. Indiana, historically a red state that voted Obama in 2008, is generally a conservative enclave behind the cornsilk curtain and Bayh reflected the state's positions (not our state anymore since we are in the DC burbs - but we have lots of relatives in Ind). Major deviations from the state's mood included votes against Justices Roberts & Alito. At the time Bayh was jockeying for the Presidential nomination and supporting either man would have doomed his already pre-doomed effort.

His re-election was going to be no contest. Although a hoosier, he grew in in the DC area. I doubt he wanted to go to Indiana University for undergrad, but it was necessarily. His law degree was from University of Virginia, a solid program. His wife, Susan, is smart & friendly.

His Senate seat is exceptionally like to go repug - and a repug more to the right than Bayh.

With a seat on both the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence and the Armed Services Committee, he has routine access to the most highly classified Intelligence and Blue Force Information, including waived Special Access Programs, he is one of the most cleared people in Congress and knows where a shit-load of bodies are buried.

If Evan is retiring from the Senate for a Presidential run, it anomalous for Evan who always played not to lose rather than lay it all out, take risks and play to win.

I'll grant him this - his announcement surprised me.


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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 02:35 PM
Response to Reply #108
131. Bayh will never ever win election as President.
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ddorrell Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 06:44 PM
Response to Reply #108
201. " His wife, Susan, is smart & friendly."
She is also on the boards of several health care companies.
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 02:26 PM
Response to Reply #18
128. I heard Harold Ford just moved to Indianapolis!
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 04:22 PM
Response to Reply #128
167. DUzy!!
:rofl:
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4_TN_TITANS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 05:08 PM
Response to Reply #128
174. Good one.... we sure don't need his kind back in TN.
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kenfrequed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 10:51 AM
Response to Reply #128
248. They have to try to get him in somewhere
I have wondered if a big democratic lose wouldn't actually improve the DLC's prospects more than a continuing win. I mean if we keep winning and occasionally improve or pick up seats than the DLC doesn't have a strong Repuke party to 'triangulate' with.

With Kane in charge I'm sure we will continue to see worthless blue dogs and dlc wastes put forth and given money.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 01:38 PM
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 02:35 PM
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130. Actually, I hope the door DOES hit him
nice and hard! :spank:
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 10:43 AM
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2. Well, they need to find a real Dem to fill the seat
He wasn't going to win anyway
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 10:57 AM
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14. i agree
i think that we have a better chance without him. no progressives were gonna get out and work for him.
i think there is probably a good populist somewhere in indiana that can will. a brian schweitzer type.
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Joe Bacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 12:31 PM
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67. What a poor wimp he is compared to his Dad.
I still remember what a fighter Birch Bayh was and what a tough liberal he was.

The son is nothing like his dad was. Good riddance wimp!
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Iowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 06:22 PM
Response to Reply #67
195. Yep...
Edited on Mon Feb-15-10 06:23 PM by Iowa
Many who ride on their parents' coattails turn out to be lightweights. Evan Bayh is a "weak-son" poster child. A cheap imitation of the original. Self-serving. Stands for nothing.
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brooklynite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 12:57 PM
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89. He was up by 20 points.....
.....and as for a progressive replacement, the filing deadline is Friday. Better get cracking on finding one.
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kenfrequed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 10:52 AM
Response to Reply #89
251. Hmmph
Might explain why he waited so long. Hamstring the replacement!
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 10:44 AM
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3. Oh good. The useless lump of a Democrat decided to retire. Better choice!
Hope Lieberfuck and Baucdork follows him.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 10:55 AM
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12. I want to know if he got help with his decision from the Admin? nt
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Myrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 11:08 AM
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19. I think his decision was solidified by his wife's 1099 Stmt from Wellpoint ...
.... why 'work' anymore when he's already a very well-kept man? Why bother with trying to hide the conflict of interest?
He's such an empty suit, I wonder if his father is ashamed of him.
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vssmith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 08:51 PM
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220. Once he is out of congress will Wellpoint still want her?
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Myrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 09:14 PM
Response to Reply #220
224. ... of course, he's still going to be part of the 'boys club' ...
... in fact I wouldn't be surprised if he took a seat on their Board in the near future.
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ggggghhhhh Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 11:43 AM
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38. +1000
+1000
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MidwestTransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 10:45 AM
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4. Screwed.
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Joe Bacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 12:42 PM
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78. You're right, Bayh Screwed us one last time
From Americablog--looks like Bayh is setting it up so there is NO Democratic candidate for Senator. Nice Job, DINO!

http://www.americablog.com/2010/02/senator-evan-bayh-d-...

UPDATE @ 11:47 a.m.: Via Ben Smith, if no candidate can file the required paperwork by this week, looks like the Indiana Democratic State Committee can name a replacement. But, I still think Bayh screwed the Democrats. He really is a putz.
____________________________
Bayh may have really screwed the Democrats here. I just looked up the filing requirements for Senate primary candidates in Indiana. The CAN-4 form, which can be located here, titled, INDIANA PETITION FOR PRIMARY BALLOT PLACEMENT AS A CANDIDATE FOR UNITED STATES SENATOR, states:
INSTRUCTIONS: This petition is used to nominate candidates for placement on the May 4, 2010 Democratic or Republican Primary Election Ballot for the office of United States Senator. Petitioners are not required to provide precinct and congressional district information. The county voter registration office will complete this information after the petition is filed. Each candidate must also complete a Declaration of Candidacy for Primary Nomination form (CAN-2). This petition must be filed with the appropriate county voter registration office for processing beginning January 4, 2010, and no later than NOON, February 16, 2010.
That means Democrats might only have until tomorrow at noon to get a candidate on the ballot. I'm going to check further on this.

UPDATE: Another form, CAN-2, DECLARATION OF CANDIDACY FOR PRIMARY NOMINATION, the states:
This form is used by an individual who is seeking the Democratic or Republican party nomination to an elected office in a primary election. A declaration of candidacy must be filed no later than NOON, February 19, 2010, and no earlier than January 20, 2010.
Based on the 2010 Indiana Candidate Guide, it looks like the petitions must be completed and filed with the Declaration:
1. Declaration of Candidacy

A candidate for the nomination of United States Senator by the Democratic or Republican Party must file a declaration of candidacy with the Election Division. (IC 3-8-2-5)
The declaration of candidacy form (CAN-2) is available from the Election Divisions office, on the Divisions website and is in this Guide under the Candidate Forms tab.

2. Petition of Nomination

The declaration of candidacy must be accompanied by a petition of nomination signed by at least 4,500 registered voters of the state, including at least 500 registered voters from each of Indianas 9 congressional districts. (IC 3-8-2-8 and IC 3-8-2-9)

Each petition must request that the candidates name be placed on the ballot at the primary election and must contain the following: (a) signature of each petitioner, (b) name of each petitioner printed legibly, and (c) residence mailing address of each petitioner. (IC 3-8-2-8 and IC 3-8-2-9)

The petition of nomination form (CAN-4) is available from the Election Divisions office, on the Divisions website, or in included in this Guide under the Candidate Forms tab.

For the Election Division to consider a petition valid, the county voter registration office in each county where a petitioner is registered must certify whether each petitioner is a registered voter in that county. This certification must accompany and be a part of the petition. If a county is a part of more than one congressional district, the certificate must indicate the number of petitioners from that county who reside in each congressional district. (IC 3-8-2-9)
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 02:37 PM
Response to Reply #78
132. He screwed any possible Democratic candidate by waiting until now to announce.
At least if a good candidate had the awareness they would had been fundraising for a couple of years and gotten their name out there more in the public.
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GinaMaria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 03:21 PM
Response to Reply #132
155. It's clear which party he sides with n/t
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 05:18 PM
Response to Reply #132
175. Correction
He screwed anyone who didn't have advance inside knowledge of his decision to drop out. We'll know soon enough if that list had one person on it or not.
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beac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 04:44 PM
Response to Reply #78
169. There is an option for the state party committee to submit a candidate by June 30.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/15/indiana-senate...

Still, it's a real screw job by Bayh and I hope the hideous scandal and/or massive ego that drove him to this last-minute act ruins him forever.
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kenfrequed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 10:55 AM
Response to Reply #78
252. Get ready for the Screw- part two.
Where Bayh will give press conferences or write books blaming the left wing of the democratic party for everything.
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icee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 06:13 PM
Response to Reply #4
192. You are correct. Disaster far beyond Bayh resigning.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 10:47 AM
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5. It was looking like he wasn't going to have too much trouble holding his seat. Coates got slammed
before he even got out of the starting gate.

Who do we have as a good candidate who could win?
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 10:50 AM
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7. He doesn't vote with us anyway.
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 10:52 AM
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8. he's going to be one wealthy ex-senator
now his bosses can shovel their thank you money to him directly instead of through his wife.
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 10:54 AM
Response to Original message
10. Good riddance DLC trash.
I think he was dumber than Dan Quayle.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 10:54 AM
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11. Here's our chance, let's not blow it. Again. nt
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 10:56 AM
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13. Now he can go to work for his true constituency- whatever corporation flashed the most money
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 11:00 AM
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15. Nice going loser! Why didn't you announce this last year to let Ind Dems find a replacement?
I smell lotsa money for Bayh, perhaps in the same health industry which he represented in the US Senate.

Don't let the door hit you in the ass!
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 11:08 AM
Response to Reply #15
20. I heard Phrma is looking for a new chief lobbyist.
This prick was on Obamas short list for VP.
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sonias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 11:27 AM
Response to Reply #15
30. My thoughts exactly
Why did he wait til the very last second to announce his retirement? He really couldn't give a shit about the people in his state, his party or people in general.

If he had a spine and general compassion, he would of at least announced early enough to give another good Democrat a fighting chance. Instead he screws the whole opportunity. In essence just giving it to the Rs.

What a worthless piece of crap this guy is. :grr:

Sonia
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Betty Karlson Donating Member (902 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 12:00 PM
Response to Reply #30
44. Not to insult you, but
to the best of my understanding, he is retiring out of protest over the way-too-partisan atmosphere in D.C.
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FourScore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 12:18 PM
Response to Reply #44
56. You actually believe that? wow. n/t
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FourScore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 12:19 PM
Response to Reply #56
57. He never voted with the dems on anything that mattered anyway. See ya'!!!
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Betty Karlson Donating Member (902 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 12:30 PM
Response to Reply #56
64. Let's say I still give him the benefit of the doubt.
And he did vote for the Health Care Compromise, and for quite some clotures.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 01:15 PM
Response to Reply #64
92. and he voted against importation of cheaper drugs from Canada
since he is in hock to Big Pharma and his whore of a wife sits on the board of WellPoint, which just raised premiums by 34 percent.
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Betty Karlson Donating Member (902 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 01:34 PM
Response to Reply #92
103. I did not say I approved of his policies
Quite the contrary.

But the point is: maybe he genuinely disliked the atmosphere in which Democrats were no longer at liberty to disagree with the party line because Republicans no longer are at liberty to disagree with the party line?
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susanwy Donating Member (461 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 08:51 PM
Response to Reply #103
221. Ok - give him the benefit of the doubt
and that he is sincere in his reason. BUT - WHY ANNOUNCE now with only one week to get another D candidate filed. It seems to me he is pissed off more about the Jobs bill than anything else and wanted to screw Harry Reid. All in all it seems rather spiteful timing and I suspect he will do quite well as an ex-politico and a big hypocrite.

Susan
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Betty Karlson Donating Member (902 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 09:33 PM
Response to Reply #221
227. See the link at response # 188
It seems he is 'screwing' - as you put it - McConnell rather than Reid
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zonkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 05:48 PM
Response to Reply #92
185. He's a turd. Period.
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 12:31 PM
Response to Reply #44
65. Not to insult you, but
he is one of the people who created that atmosphere in D.C.
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Betty Karlson Donating Member (902 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 12:35 PM
Response to Reply #65
69. He is? In what way did he contribute to it?
I thought he was reaching across the aisle a lot? Notorious for it, if I am to believe the other posts in this thread?
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 12:46 PM
Response to Reply #69
83. He created his own block within the party, made up of conservatives, to fight against the party
agenda.

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Betty Karlson Donating Member (902 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 01:40 PM
Response to Reply #83
110. That would not make for partisanship.
Partisanship would have been for either party to demand either full conservatism or full progressivism.

I think Mr Bayh, for all the special interests that he tendered to, and for all the conservatism he is known for, would genuinely prefer to be at more liberty to disagree with the president. The only way for him to be so, is for republicans to be at liberty to disagree with Mr McConnell. Since they are not, Bayh isn't either.

(But really, could Mr Bayh not have realised this a tad earlier? Or did he keep hoping things would turn around before the Friday deadline?)
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 02:40 PM
Response to Reply #110
137. Bayh only played which ever way he thought the wind played here in Indiana.
His district offices didn't respond to constituents in a timely fashion or reasonably. One time I got 3 letters back from him that was months and months after I had sent a fax to his office. The letters had nothing to do with the content in my fax and they were identical.
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jeff47 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 05:58 PM
Response to Reply #110
187. Actually, it does make for partisanship
Blue Dogs enable Republican partisanship. By having 'even a Democrat _______' for cover, they are able to ratchet up the partisanship.

By having a Liberman or a Bayh agreeing with them, the Republicans can claim their hyper-partisanship is reasonable.
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Betty Karlson Donating Member (902 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 06:03 PM
Response to Reply #187
188. Whatever the truth of your observation, don't miss this one:
Edited on Mon Feb-15-10 06:03 PM by Betty Karlson
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2010/2/15/837264/-IN-...

Apparently, Mr Bayh did not exactly enable the GOP this time.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 06:33 PM
Response to Reply #188
200. thank you
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U4ikLefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 08:28 PM
Response to Reply #188
214. I guess there is a first time for everything.
Edited on Mon Feb-15-10 08:29 PM by U4ikLefty
I find it odd that you are bending over backwards to support the motivations Byah MAY have.

It seems you have some strong interest in making Byah look like a good guy...why is that???
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Betty Karlson Donating Member (902 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 09:52 PM
Response to Reply #214
228. This has nothing to do with good guys vs bad guys
It's that whole paradigm I reject.

Just because someone is progressive on 9 issues out of 10 doesn't make him good. And when someone is progressive on only 1 out of 10 issues, that alone doesn't make her bad.

Is it impossible to believe that moderates/ centrists and other people on the right wing of the Democratic Party can have a genuine motivation for that position, other than 'being a bad guy'?

If Mr Bayh would deplore (as I suggest) his ever more limited possibility to stray from the party course, that is neither good or bad. It's just his opinion.

I have no interest whatsoever in portraying him as 'good'. I just question the received wisdom that everything he does is bad/ detrimental for the Democratic Party.

This is not a plea for DINOs. Rather, I would encourage moderates AND leftists to tolerate each other. I'll give you that some really left wing Democrats are long overdue - to give the core base of the Democratic Party a voice. But in the case of Indiana, we may have to settle for a more conservative kind of candidate.

Allow me to quote a former Ohio governor at a recent convention of the GOP, who complained about their fringe right taking over the party: "I'm not saying that there is no place for conservative evangelicals in our party; but they should stop saying there is no place for me in it."
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Psephos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 11:00 PM
Response to Reply #228
233. That's a well-reasoned post. n/t
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 10:51 AM
Response to Reply #228
249. Good post
Please continue to post these reasonable arguments here - we need all we can get :hi:
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Betty Karlson Donating Member (902 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 06:33 AM
Response to Reply #249
265. And thank you for the encouragement.
It makes others, and me, feel continously welcome.

(waving back at you)
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kenfrequed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 03:54 PM
Response to Reply #228
258. The paradigm I reject....
Is that Bayh actually was a centrist and in fact that there is a 'center' with which to identify him. The existance of a center is a convenient and often manipulated non-existant postion that is thrown out by pundits and PR firms as spin. There is no center. It does not exist. There are issues and stances on issues and points of compromise. None of which denotes or suggests some existant center, merely points between various arguments.

To suggest that there is a middle suggests that there are either politicians of such fluidity that they are useless or that politics is a fixed unchanging thing wherein there is a center ideology that has its own functional positions.

We have moved to the right to the point where many Democrats pine for a candidate as liberal (economically) as Eisenhower.


Bayh was not some reasoned 'centrist' he was a bought and paid for corporate stooge. The occasional burp or noise of purported populism or illusory liberal leaning by the man was burned out of existance when he decided to form an organized block of senators to thwart any attempt to move to the progressive side of the table.
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jeff47 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 11:26 PM
Response to Reply #188
235. So the "upside" for Bayh screwing the party is we don't have any of that pesky democracy?
Edited on Mon Feb-15-10 11:28 PM by jeff47
You're literally arguing that having a smoke-filled back room choose is better than an election.
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Betty Karlson Donating Member (902 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 06:41 AM
Response to Reply #235
241. Ehm, ... No
The argument was whether or not Mr Bayh was enabling the GOP by the late announcement of his retirement. Whether or not that was a democracy-enabling move was not part of this particular line of discussion.

The link I gave you argued that having no primary would increase the chances of the Democrats holding on to the seat. How this is "screwing the party" is not apparent to me.
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jeff47 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 12:41 PM
Response to Reply #241
254. You're not quite paying attention to their entire argument.
Edited on Tue Feb-16-10 12:43 PM by jeff47
The argument they are making in order to claim Bayh's sudden retirement is a good thing is the avoidance of a primary. The GOP is doing one and the Democrats are not.

That means in their minds, a back-room deal where the candidate is chosen by party bosses is better than an election, where those icky voters get to have a say.

In other words, their argument is "We don't believe in democracy. We think the elites should run things for all those icky little people." Also known as the DC disease, where the villagers insist they know what the little people really want despite the polling and elections that show otherwise.

This disconnect is EXACTLY why the tea party folks have such a movement - the belief that some far-away elites are helping themselves and ignoring the 'little people'. A back-room deal by the "far-away elites" for the Democratic candidate will be a major weakness in November. That is just one way how Bayh is screwing the party.

The other way he's screwing the party is he's already received donations for his re-election, and once people have donated for one race, it's a lot harder to get them to donate again. And Bayh isn't committing his war chest to a D holding his seat.

Their argument is idiotic. But idiotic arguments should be expected from Bayh and his supporters.
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kenfrequed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 04:02 PM
Response to Reply #254
259. No.
The argument that is being made is merely a counter-argument to Bayh being some centrist superhero.

The only good is sort of a bittersweet- finally getting rid of an obstructionist GOP covering dem but only at cost of losing that senate seat.
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Betty Karlson Donating Member (902 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 06:30 AM
Response to Reply #259
264. Seen this yet?
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kenfrequed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 03:46 PM
Response to Reply #187
257. A very good point.
It creates a false center as well.
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sonias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 12:43 PM
Response to Reply #44
80. I'm with Jed on this one
Daily Kos 2/15/10
Bayh claims excessive partisanship motivated retirement
(snip)
The one thing we know is that statement is total bullshit. If Evan Bayh were in the least concerned about legislative gridlock, he'd have been fighting to get rid of the filibuster instead of using it at every opportunity to slow down or scuttle Democratic initiatives.



Sonia
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AlbertCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 12:57 PM
Response to Reply #44
88. protest over the way-too-partisan atmosphere in D.C.
That'll show 'em!

The Dems just won't listen to all the good GOP ideas! Right?

:eyes: :eyes: :eyes:
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Betty Karlson Donating Member (902 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 01:43 PM
Response to Reply #88
111. Or the bright reverse of that!
Mr Bayh might genuinely deplore the loss of moderate republicans. (I know I do - if only because it moved the political centre to: where once was the left wing of the right.)
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bread_and_roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 01:36 PM
Response to Reply #44
107. ROFL that's a good one! (n/t)
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 02:38 PM
Response to Reply #44
134. Bayh is full of it. It shows that he is a wimp cry baby..
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SanchoPanza Donating Member (410 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 12:52 PM
Original message
"Vacancy on the Ballot"
Election law allows the state party to place a candidate on the ballot if no one does so independently. The state party is run by people loyal to Bayh. The chairman of the state party, Dan Parker, is his campaign manager.

By announcing late, Bayh has insured that the next nominee will be chosen, in private, by party operatives that are loyal to him. Any other candidate will have to round up 4500 signatures, 500 from each district, by noon tomorrow in order to even get on the ballot.
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FourScore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 01:34 PM
Response to Original message
102. That sounds just like him, doesn't it? ASSHOLE!!! n/t
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Betty Karlson Donating Member (902 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 06:05 PM
Response to Original message
189. See response # 188, please
There is a silver lining.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 12:10 PM
Response to Reply #15
51. My first thought as well.
Guessing he pulls a Billy Tauzin for HC (instead of for oil co.s)
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 03:35 PM
Response to Reply #15
158. It's just a final act of a REAL Republican showing his true colors!
Good f'ing riddance! Perhaps this should be a message to other states where there's a DINO running for reelection this year. You BETTER get a reasonable challenger to them in the primary with the proper forms and signatures ready to go by deadlines, or you might get screwed the say way that Bayh screwed the state of Indiana...

I wonder if my old high school next door neighbor Rethuglican who's now the head of Club for Growth who used to be South Bend's congress critter before 2006, Chris Chocola, will try running for this seat now... I guess he has a slim deadline too if he wants it.
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 11:01 AM
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16. That's one down.
:thumbsup:
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 11:03 AM
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17. Buh-Bye, DLC prick!!
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Indepatriot Donating Member (119 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 11:10 AM
Original message
Couldn't happen to a nicer Guy!
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last_texas_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 11:10 AM
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21. I don't care for Bayh, but his retirement doesn't excite me.
Seems like a pretty petty move and lousy timing on his part, but is it likely we can find anyone better to replace him that could actually win in Indiana? Especially w/ the likely climate of that state in the midterm elections?
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 11:10 AM
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22. Even leaving, he screws Dems - "a decision that hands Republicans a prime pickup opportunity."
Glad to see the back of him. Showed his true colors during the Bush nightmare years.
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neverforget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 11:11 AM
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23. I'm especially going to miss his deficit hawk BS while voting for tax cuts
for the wealthy.....buh bye asshole
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 11:13 AM
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24. Uh Oh, he's young, wonder what dirt someone dug up on him.
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caraher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 12:00 PM
Response to Reply #24
45. Besides his wife's health insurance ties?
Don't know, but it's clear the only Hoosiers he's represented lately are CEOs...
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swilton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 12:38 PM
Response to Reply #24
74. Maybe it is not the dirt

Although I agree his youth indicates he is up to something

As he himself said - his desire to serve was undiminished...I'm wondering if he's thinking about a challenge to Obama from the right of his own party....

Or there is some revolving door that awaits his walk through
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Bette Noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 02:12 PM
Response to Reply #74
125. Mr. President is the right of his own party.
Everything to the right of Mr. President is a Republican, or a Tea-Bagger.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 02:42 PM
Response to Reply #74
138. Bayh never had the energy for the job. If you ever attended any of his rallys
or conferences and heard him speak. He just didn't have the energy. Never did.
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SlingBlade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 11:17 AM
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25. Looks like the Hoosiers will finally get a REAL Republican
Good for them, They deserve it after all of this blue dog bull shit.
And good for democrats who are tired of being governed by repukes who
call themselves democrats.
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sharesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 11:20 AM
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26. Senator Mike Pence? Unacceptable. That guy offends me.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 11:28 AM
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31. Pence is running for reelection to the House
He already nixed a run for the Senate.
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sharesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 11:32 AM
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33. Thanks for that. I must say, I am relieved.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 01:58 PM
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117. I spoke too soon! Latest news is that Pence is reconsidering.
according to some local reports.
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sharesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 02:10 PM
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124. That would make sense. Never say never.
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SanchoPanza Donating Member (410 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 11:21 AM
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27. Asshole to the last moment.
The filing deadline for ballot access in the Indiana primary is tomorrow (2/16) at noon. In order to get on the ballot, you need 500 signatures from each of the state's nine congressional districts. No one is currently challenging Bayh on the Democratic side.

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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 12:29 PM
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63. Assuming no one is in the background with the requisite signatures, what
happens next?
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SanchoPanza Donating Member (410 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 01:35 PM
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104. Nominating convention.
The State party declares that there's a vacancy on the ballot because no one has filed in time, at which point state law allows them to nominate someone by convention. This will very likely not be open to the press or the public, and will be populated by party operatives who owe their positions to Bayh. Example: Dan Parker, the state chairman, is Bayh's longtime campaign manager.

My operating theory is that Bayh wanted to retire but didn't want the contest to replace him to be messy, messy being defined as more liberal Democrats in the state putting up a candidate that would challenge his legacy as a craven, conniving shitbag. With a vacancy on the ballot, Indiana Democrats will have no say on who the nominee will be, period. He or she will be chosen for them.

Personally, my money's on Brad Ellsworth. Moderate/Conservative and with decent name recognition, but will vote with the party so long as he gets his pork. Exactly like Bayh.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 02:44 PM
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140. It is not done by state convention.
The state central committee makes the decision. They are made up of Chairs from each of the 9 districts and other officers.
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 12:56 PM
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87. A deliberate screwing of the party.
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LittleGirl Donating Member (377 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 11:24 AM
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28. I wouldn't have voted for him anyway...
he's a DINO and I didn't like that his wife was so closely tied to health care in this state. I agree with the poster above who guessed that his wife's 1099 made the decision for him. Here in Indianapolis that's about 80% of the job postings - mostly health care related.

Good riddance - bub bye Bayh. I hope he stays far away from politics.
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t0dd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 11:25 AM
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29. I wonder if Lincoln will "retire" soon as well
Edited on Mon Feb-15-10 11:30 AM by t0dd
Since she has no chance of being re-elected.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 11:28 AM
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32. Here is some speculation from my favourite Indiana blogger
Update 1: Thoughts on who will run. I think Indiana Democrats best bet would be Congressman Brad Ellsworth. The Conservative Democrat from the 'bloody eighth district,' and is the former Vanderburgh County Sheriff. He would be the most electable in the state with his blue dog credentials. I have met him quite a few times and he is a great guy, even if I don't always agree with his stances on the issues.

Another great candidate would be Congressman Andre Carson. With him on the ballot, Progressives would be fired up to hit the polls helping the Party in other tough Election races. It would open up a can of worms in the 7th District for a potential successor.

Via Facebook, Jon is tossing out the idea of Joe Hogsett for Senate. Others are also mentioning Baron Hill, who was tossing around the idea of running for governor in 2012.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Update 2: Also, don't forget the filing deadline is this FRIDAY! That's alot of signatures to gather in a very short amount of time!

And a source of mine thinks that there is more to this than what we are being let onto. Without naming my source(s), there could be a potential 'statement' from the White House following Bayh's press conference.

http://indydemocrat.blogspot.com/2010/02/evan-bayh-to-r...
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SanchoPanza Donating Member (410 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 11:40 AM
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36. The filing deadline is tomorrow (2/16) at noon.
Per the FEC: http://www.fec.gov/pubrec/fe2010/2010pdates.pdf

Anyone who wants to run has 24 hours and 20 minutes, as of this post, to collect 500 signatures from each district to get on the ballot.
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ggggghhhhh Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 11:46 AM
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39. What does this mean?
An impossible task on the fly in 24 hours.

Does the Repuke Govoner seat the rep?
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SanchoPanza Donating Member (410 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 12:08 PM
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50. Vacancy on the Ballot = State Party Picks
The state party has a private convention to pick the nominee. Indiana Democrats almost did the same thing in 2006 when no one bothered to run against Dick Luger, but decided not to waste the money. Only the Libertarian party bothered to run someone against him.

Though this is speculation, I think this is the reason why Bayh is announcing today. That no other Democrat decided to challenge him openly means that anyone and everyone who wants a shot at the seat will have to go through the party apparatus and not a primary election, because collecting that many signatures on such short notice will be next to impossible (and it may be the 19th, the Indiana SoS office says it's the 19th while the FEC says its the 16th, but either way it's not going to happen).

So, basically, Bayh has assurances that his successor will likely be similar to him politically, because they'll be picked by the party chiefs, and that there won't be a public fight over it because it'll be done behind closed doors.
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SanchoPanza Donating Member (410 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 12:12 PM
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52. Clarification: It is tomorrow.
Form for Ballot access says 2/16. 2/19 is for House candidates.

http://www.in.gov/sos/elections/files/CAN-4.pdf

Fuck you too, Evan.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 01:01 PM
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90. Bayh is a moneyed elite...he simply got tired...
...of being a slave to his alarm clock. He was only in politics to rise to the upper echelons. He knows
he has gone as far, in politics, as he will ever go. He's not going to be President. Obama passed him up
as vp. Spoiled little aristocrat wants off the merry-go-round.

His timing is revealing. The DLC/neocon wing of our party doesn't want a real race. They want to appoint
someone who will keep the corporate takeover/greedmongering/war profiteering going. So, he announces his
exit at a time when it is impossible for any Progressive to coalesce a campaign.

The DLCers will declare a Bayh clone to the position.

Also, the Brown nomination was as much about dissatisfaction on the right--as it is on the left. Progressives,
at the time of that election--were distraught with Obama's unwillingness to fight and with the lack of progress
on healthcare. They stayed home in protest. No one is talking about that though. Can't let anyone know that
Progressives are unhappy and able to affect elections. It has to be ALL about the tea partiers and their power.

That way...when our party shifts right--they have an excuse, "Well look at the Scott Brown election! We must
move farther to the right!" Whatever.

They have to stomp all glimmers of a Progressive movement. Believe me, we're ready to revolt. We're just as
motivated, disgusted and upset as the tea partiers. But we must be squelched and our voices must be chilled.

We won't get a fair election now--with time to further a Progressive candidate. We'll get a back-door appointment
of a DLC scumbag.

Cowards.
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swilton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 02:38 PM
Response to Reply #90
135. Sorry, I've had my fill of being squelched!
SSSSSSQQQQQUUUUUUEEEEEEAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 08:39 PM
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215. It means the state Democratic machine gets to choose instead of the Democratic voters.
I dont like it.
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Chipper Chat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 01:44 PM
Response to Reply #32
112. Baron Hill the best bet.
But I think dems can just kiss the seat goodbye. Indiana is just too GOPpy.
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704wipes Donating Member (966 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 05:26 PM
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178. Best bet for a progressive would be ANN DELANEY
I heard she was at the podium for his announcement.
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Myrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 06:25 PM
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197. I Like Ann but I think she likes state/local politics too much ..
.... to toss her hat into a race that would take her out of Indy, should she win.
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AwakeAtLast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 07:52 PM
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212. I saw former Indy Mayor Bart Peterson's name floated around
I think there is something in Bayh's connection to WellPoint (wife) that is forcing him to do this. I don't buy his explanation.
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ohiodemocratic Donating Member (188 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 11:34 AM
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34. Big odds of him becoming a health insurance lobbyist n/t
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Happyhippychick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 11:39 AM
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35. The only question to ask is: who's he banging?
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 11:40 AM
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37. and what's his name?
:crazy:

I think Bayh is jumping at the prospect of a better financial deal.
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indypaul Donating Member (896 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 12:05 PM
Response to Reply #37
47. The Indiana Democrats and SDCC gave the republican senator
Lugar a free ride last election. Under the current leadership
and the timing of this announcement it looks as if they will give
the Republican candidate (whoever) a free ride this time also.
A real piece of work and their way of showing their gratitude for
all the work put forth in electing and reelecting pathetic
representatives of this political party.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 12:31 PM
Response to Reply #47
66. I remember that, and how angry I was at the time!
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 01:13 PM
Response to Reply #47
91. Local TV is saying the Democratic State Committe will have to pick a candidate to run in November
since Bayh made it impossible for someone else to meet tomorrow's deadline for filing.
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704wipes Donating Member (966 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 05:31 PM
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179. Is it impossible for d'Ippolito to come up with the signatures?
She was collecting signatures. 500 short in the 8th District I am hearing, and I am not sure about elsewhere.
But if she got the signatures in, and was the only candidate in the primary then she goes to November, right?
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 07:15 PM
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204. I, myself have collected 200 in a day.
But, I was standing outside a DMV office in Florida, not on a holiday during an Indiana winter.

If she had enough staff and volunteers, it's doable.

She really should collect about 600 per district to cover rejects.
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disndat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 10:26 AM
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246. Must be why he announced so late.
He wants to replaced by someone who will do Bayh's bidding for the health industrial complex, As an observer noted yesterday, Bayh is simply crossing the aisle to be a lobbyist.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 02:46 PM
Original message
Nobody in their right mind would want to be bang by Bayh.
He may look pretty but he doesn't have personality that should attract women. IMO
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 11:50 AM
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40. Now Tim Kaine can either do his job or prove he doesn't deserve it
Indiana CAN go Democratic with a newcomer, but only with a candidate that is convincing.

The Democratic candidate for Senate in Indiana will either inspire or retire.

It's Kaine's job to find him/her, recruit him/her, and give him/her the resources to win.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 11:52 AM
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42. Well, if Bayh hadn't decided to retire at the LAST minute,
the Dems could have found someone else to take his place. This seat is going to the GOP thanks to Bayh. The blame falls on him.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 12:15 PM
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53. One bright spot... its nearly the last time to say.... Bayh gives yet another victory to the GOP
Here are some famous ones: bargaining the 2002 Corp accounting reform to prevent effectiveness (only the second round of corporate implosions got him to stop blocking the effort altogether); The famous Rose Garden speech with Lieberman and Gephardt to flank bush and scuttle all last truely bipartisan efforts to slow down the march to war in Iraq (on the eve of the vote.)
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Chiyo-chichi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 01:36 PM
Response to Reply #53
106. Exactly.
Thanks for those "highlights."

And let us not forget these recent gems:

Its why moderates and independents even in a state as Democratic as Massachusetts just arent buying our message, he said. They just dont believe the answers we are currently proposing are solving their problems. Thats something that has to be corrected.

The only we are able to govern successfully in this country is by liberals and progressives making common cause with independents and moderates, Bayh said. Whenever you have just the furthest left elements of the Dem party attempting to impose their will on the rest of the country -- thats not going to work too well.

---

As if that were happening.

We didn't realize when he spewed this bile that he had already decided not to run and to screw the party. This is pretty much the same talking point he's using today.

:hi:
Hi, Salin. (From the DUer formerly known as soonerhoosier.)
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 01:58 PM
Response to Reply #106
116. Coverage on TPM is interesting.... all signs were full speed ahead with the campaign
sorta makes you wonder ....

:hi: Nice to see you again!
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Chiyo-chichi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 02:04 PM
Response to Reply #116
119. Press conf. starting now
Streaming on wishtv.com
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Chiyo-chichi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 02:09 PM
Response to Reply #116
122. And yet he hadn't filed.
??
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SanchoPanza Donating Member (410 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 12:25 PM
Response to Reply #40
60. Kaine has nothing to do with it.
The Democratic candidate will be picked, in private convention, by the state party due to a vacancy on the primary ballot.
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 12:39 PM
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76. The DNC can have input if it wants to, plus, more important:
The DNC can allocate resources to the campaign once the candidate is picked, if it so chooses. If they follow Howard's
50 State strategy, we can hold the seat with a sharp candidate. If they write Indiana off as unwinnable (Rahm's strategy),
then the seat is lost. Obama carried Indiana in 2008. If he shows up periodically, and not in the last 48 hours, and has
something to show for himself, the seat can be saved with the right candidate.
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SanchoPanza Donating Member (410 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 12:49 PM
Response to Reply #76
84. That's all after the fact.
Kaine can have input into who his picked up front, but its mostly going to be minimal. The person with the most influence over the process will be Indiana Dem Chairman Dan Parker.

Dan Parker is also Bayh's longtime campaign manager.

The Democratic nominee will be in the same mold as Bayh. That's why he announced 24 hours before the deadline for turning in petition signatures for ballot access in the primary. It insures that Indiana Democrats will have no say over who their nominee is, and gives all the power over that process to people who are in their position because of Bayh. Even if Kaine balks, they'll just say that he is trying to exert out-of-state influence over a state process and jeopardizing a Senate seat at the same time, and they'd likely win. Unfortunate as it is, Democratic officeholders and functionaries owe more to Bayh than they do to the DNC.

The fix is in.

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vegiegals Donating Member (179 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 11:52 AM
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41. Whow. thanks for the post.
Indiana Shocker: Bayh Not Seeking Re-Election

By Greg Giroux | February 15, 2010 10:52 AM | Permalink | Comments (0)

Sen. Evan Bayh (D-Ind.) will not seek re-election this year, a stunning decision that gives Republicans a prime opportunity to win a seat they had no expectation of winning at the beginning of the election cycle.

"After all these years, my passion for service to my fellow citizens is undiminished, but my desire to do so in Congress has waned," Bayh said in a statement that was reported by several media outlets.

Bayh, 54, will hold a news conference at 2 p.m. in Indianapolis.
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tonysam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 11:54 AM
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43. The GOP will take that seat
I can't blame him for being disgusted with the stupidity in Washington, even if he was part of it.
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TheDebbieDee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 12:51 PM
Response to Reply #43
85. The GOP already had that seat. Bayh was a good little DINO!
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earthside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 12:01 PM
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46. Republican Senate a Certainty.
Good riddance to bad trash.

But a majority Republican U.S. Senate is almost a certainty now.

And do you think having fifty-one votes will stop them from passing whatever they want?

Blame this snowballing debacle on Harry Reid and the Democratic leadership that would not kill the filibuster rule.
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FBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 08:01 PM
Response to Reply #46
213. Not al all. Not even close
The last seat to move to a likely "R" made a republican senate possible (not likely).

This moves the center of mass to about a 5-6 seat republican pickup.

That assumes that nothing changes (which, of course, it will).

It would still take Republicans basically running the table to take the senate (particularly with the VP tiebreaker).

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ihamer10 Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 09:12 PM
Response to Reply #46
223. you know it actually takes 60 votes to change the 60 vote rule
that something most people just don't get
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gorekerrydreamticket Donating Member (422 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 10:52 PM
Response to Reply #46
231. Bullshit, I don't think so... n/t
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Eric Condon Donating Member (761 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 12:05 PM
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48. I was already planning on donating and vounteering for anyone who would challenge him in the Primary
I'm hoping Tamyra d'Ippolito can get on the ballot and I'll be writing her in if she doesn't. Any Democrat is already always hanging by a thread in this dumbfuck state, so this seat will definitely be going to the Repukes in November, along with who knows how many others. Not that this one will make a difference anyway, there is no daylight between Bayh and the GOP.
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divineorder Donating Member (513 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 01:16 PM
Response to Reply #48
94. Tamyra d'Ipplolito
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Change Happens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 12:08 PM
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49. Good riddance you mother fucker.....nt
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 01:27 PM
Response to Reply #49
100. +1, I am sure his inbox is feeling the love right now
:sarcasm:
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 12:15 PM
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54. So get the fuck out you pug!
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GinaMaria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 12:16 PM
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55. Buh- Bayh
maybe he can run as a republicant in the next office he seeks. It would be more honest.
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Politicub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 12:23 PM
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58. Is everyone retiring this year?
Not that Bayh was ever one of my favorites, but I still place value in having folks in House and Senate w/ a d-behind their name.
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jeff47 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 06:07 PM
Response to Reply #58
191. Lots of R's are. A couple D's are. (nt)
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 12:24 PM
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59. Bayh to retyh
Good bayh
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Joe Bacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 12:29 PM
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62. Good riddance.
Now he'll go to work as a health care lobbyist and double his salary.
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Jim Lane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 01:16 PM
Response to Reply #62
93. No, he won't double his salary.
You must think health care lobbyists work pretty cheap. I think "quintuple his salary" would be a closer guess.
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conturnedpro09 Donating Member (118 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 12:35 PM
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68. Damn. A Republican will win this seat. nt.
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dmosh42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 12:41 PM
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77. How will we know the difference? n/t
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 01:17 PM
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95. The Republican will have a R after his name, unlike Bayh who had a D after his
In terms of policy, very little difference!
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 12:36 PM
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70. Hurray!!!
:toast: :bounce: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :kick:
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Blue Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 12:36 PM
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71. Go fuck off now
And get your red ass out of our party.
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Joey Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 12:37 PM
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72. We are caving into the Tea Bagging GOP
We'll end up with a republican majority in the Congress and a President *shudder* named Palin. And guess what? I won't even bother voting. Why? Because my Democratic Party is filled with corrupt pansies who don't know what the hell they are doing. We the voters, gave our party the majority and the White House, and they blew it.
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alp227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 02:53 PM
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146. Then vote for a progressive non-Democratic Party! I hate it when people boycott elections
Voting for a third party is better than sitting it out. Sheesh.
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freddie mertz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 12:38 PM
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73. And another useless sack of $#^& bites the dust.
Thank the gods!
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orbitalman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 12:39 PM
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75. Wasn't he one of the rare northern "Blue Dogs?"
For some of the important democratic agendas he may as welll have been a Repug.
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veganlush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 12:42 PM
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79. bayh-bayh, Bayh...n/t
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 12:46 PM
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82. Buh bye, you worthless piece of crap.
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gulfcoastliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 12:52 PM
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86. An empty suit DINO. Good riddance. nt
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SoapBox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 01:17 PM
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96. You can tell him GOOD BYE here...
For those that would like to say Buh-Bye-to-Bayh! And
depending on your view, good bye or good riddance.

http://bayh.senate.gov/contact/email /

Washington, DC
131 Russell Senate Office Building
Washington, DC 20510
(202) 224-5623
(202) 228-1377 fax

Indianapolis, IN
1650 Market Tower
10 West Market Street
Indianapolis, IN 46204
(317) 554-0750
(317) 554-0760 fax

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colsohlibgal Donating Member (670 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 01:19 PM
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97. Bye Bye Bayh
He was a DINO sellout, no big loss. They ought to find a progressive firebrand to run against Coates but I'd be shocked if they did. They'll dig up a blue dog wannabe so in the end it will be neither a plus or a minus for true liberals.
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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 01:25 PM
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98. He's clearly going out of his way to screw over the Democratic party,
Edited on Mon Feb-15-10 01:25 PM by smoogatz
and the voters of his own state--IN went for Obama, don't forget. He seems more upset with the progressive wing of his own party than he is with the loopiest wingnuts of the far right. What a limp dishrag this fucking guy is. Good riddance.

I actually hope it's a really embarrassing scandal, but he's too fucking boring for that. Probably just a nice, juicy lobbying gig, with the proviso that he announce at the latest possible date. Jesus--it's always the most sanctimonious who are the most corrupt.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 01:26 PM
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99. I wonder what he will do next?
Which of his current paymasters will he serve after leaving the Senate?

http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/summary.php?cid=...

Amazing how many friends he has in big law firms considering that most of those firms do relatively little business in Indiana.

Susman Godfrey -- Seattle, Houston, Dallas, L.A., New York -- No Indiana here

http://www.susmangodfrey.com/?id=73

Goldman, Sachs - New York and Salt Lake City but otherwise vague about their locations except that they are where their interests are

http://www2.goldmansachs.com /

Orrick, Herrington -- New York, D.C., Portland, Seattle, San Francisco, Sacramento, Silicon Valley, Los Angeles, Orange County and overseas

http://www2.goldmansachs.com /

ActBlue -- That's us? Oh, No!

Latham & Watkins -- Los Angeles, New Jersey, New York, Houston, Orange County, Silicon Valley, San Francisco, San Diego, Chicago -- at least Chicago is kind of close. It's in the midwest at any rate. That's the closest any of the firms of any of these donors come to Indiana.

http://www.lw.com /

Who does Bayh represent anyway?
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Dems to Win Donating Member (245 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 01:28 PM
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101. What a low-life. FOUR days to find a replacement candidate????
Bayh's retirement is not a problem. Doing so without giving the Dems a reasonable chance at finding a replacement candidate is unprofessional and seems like Bayh's revenge. Revenge for what? I don't know....
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jeff47 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 06:05 PM
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190. No, one day.
The filing deadline is Friday, but the signatures must be in on Tuesday. So effectively, the deadline is tomorrow.

Presuming nobody files, then the IN Democratic leadership picks a candidate....which will go over fantastically in an environment where lots of people are yelling about back-room deals.

It also allows Bayh to control who replaces him, in that most of the state leadership were once on his staff. If Bayh had allowed a primary, one of the DFHs might have won, and we can't have that!
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Jim Lane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 01:36 PM
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105. An alternative theory: He wasn't trying to screw the Dems, he was trying to screw Pence.
Mike Pence decided against a Senate run when he thought he'd have to face Bayh. The timing of Bayh's withdrawal means that Pence has almost no time to get the signatures to get on the Republican primary ballot against Dan Coats.

A Hoosier friend of mine suggests that this may have motivated Bayh's timing. Bayh and Coats aren't far apart ideologically, while Pence is a rabid right-winger.

Maybe Pence could pull off a petition drive anyway. It might be fun to watch a fratricidal Coats-Pence primary.
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 02:01 PM
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118. Well, it will be telling in who the Dems field
If it's someone good, you know they had a heads up despite denying it. If so, probably a good strategy.
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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 01:54 PM
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114. appropriate Spitting Image song
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RedCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 02:06 PM
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120. Way too many defeatists here who give up at the slightest whimper.
How did Obama carry this Republican only state?
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 06:24 PM
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196. that's somewhat easy to answer - disgust over the economy & B*sh by enough GOP & independents and
lots of minorities taking the time to vote for the 1st time because the man on the ticket looked like someone that could be a relative. It was a liberating feeling for many to vote for someone merely who looked like them for once. I don't blame them. But that's how Obama won states like this, along with Cheney & Dumbya screwing the economy so badly. Oh, and Sarah Palin scared the shit out of Independents...
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Chiyo-chichi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 02:09 PM
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121. Pathetic press conference streaming live
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Chiyo-chichi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 02:15 PM
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126. He took no questions.
His delivery was Bobby Jindal-like.
It was pathetically reminiscent of Sarah Palin's resignation speech.
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d_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 02:10 PM
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123. take ben nelson and mary lameass with ya
who else am i forgetting?
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iandhr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 02:22 PM
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127. Jackass
He the best we can do in Indiana
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 02:29 PM
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129. John Mellencamp....your nation is calling YOU.
Edited on Mon Feb-15-10 02:31 PM by bvar22

"John Mellencamp, previously known by the stage names Johnny Cougar, John Cougar, and John Cougar Mellencamp, (born October 7, 1951) is an American rock singer-songwriter, musician, painter and occasional actor known for his rootsy, organic brand of heartland rock that is infused with catchy pop hooks and evocative, introspective lyrics about such hot-button subjects as politics, racism, poverty and mortality. Mellencamp has brought together rock, folk, country, blues and R&B into his eclectic body of work.

He has sold over 40 million albums worldwide and has amassed 22 Top 40 hits in the United States. In addition, he holds the record for the most tracks by a solo artist to hit number-one on the Hot Mainstream Rock Tracks chart, with seven, and he has been nominated for 13 Grammy Awards, winning one.

Mellencamp is also one of the founding members of Farm Aid, an organization that began in 1985 with a star-studded concert in Champaign, Illinois to raise awareness about the loss of family farms and to raise funds to keep farm families on their land. The Farm Aid concerts have remained an annual event over the past 25 years, and as of 2010 the organization has raised over $36 million to promote a strong and resilient family farm system of agriculture.


John Mellencamp was born in Indiana, and I believe is still a resident.
He is Progressive politically and already has GREAT Name Recognition.

The unfortunate REALITY is that the majority of American Voters DO in fact have an American Idol Mentality.
It is time WE started using that.



Anybody have his number?

John Mellancamp
for
Senate


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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 02:37 PM
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133. Damn that would be cool.
But he's too good for Washington. They would ruin him.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 02:46 PM
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142. Fuckin' A!
I could get behind that.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 02:49 PM
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144. I posted as an OP in GD.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

I would be orgasmic if he stepped forward.
I would go to Indiana to help him get elected.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 02:54 PM
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147. Me too.
I got to see him and meet him in Iowa when I was with the Edwards campaign. I'd go to Indiana too.
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Jim Lane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 04:50 PM
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170. Bayh has effectively nixed that possibility
Based on other posts in this thread, Bayh's timing was such as to make it virtually impossible for John Mellencamp, a progressive elected official, or anyone else to get on the primary ballot. The Democratic nominee will be chosen by the state committee. I have to assume they'll go for a party hack rather than make a bold choice like Mellencamp.

If Bayh had made this announcement a month ago, there would've been time to talk up Mellencamp, persuade him to run (if we got lucky and he agreed), and gather the signatures for him. Bayh ensured that the selection of the Democratic nominee wouldn't be left to anything so messy and unpredictable as a free election.
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704wipes Donating Member (966 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 05:36 PM
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181. He lives in Indiana for certain
More than be said for Coates who just rented a house in Indy recently.
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mrtjbrown Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 07:15 PM
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203. Mellencamp for Senator!
Damn--this could work.

This could really, really work.

I'm sure John Cougar Mellencamp would make a great Senator.

What steps would need to happen next?

How do we get him to run?
LET'S GET THE BALL ROLLING, PEOPLE!!!!!!!!


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mrtjbrown Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 07:28 PM
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207. Great idea!
Hell, why not!

John Cougar Mellencamp is like Tom Petty--you have to have something wrong with you if you don't like the guy, even if you don't follow his music.

So how do we get this guy to run?


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susanwy Donating Member (461 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 09:09 PM
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222. +1
And he already has a campaign song - This is OUR Country~
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johnlal Donating Member (974 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 02:40 PM
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136. His timing was so that the Indiana Democratic Party chooses
... the candidate, rather than the voters. Why do conservatives hate Democracy so much? Prickish to the end.
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AllyCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 02:42 PM
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139. So does this mean he retires his name for Veep every election?
I'm so sick of this DINO I just don't want to be disappointed again.
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craigmatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 02:52 PM
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145. Bayh's only use for the party was preventing a repub from having that seat
His departure only adds another kick in the balls to the national party. He should try to vote more liberally in the time he has left there but I doubt he will.
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alp227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 02:57 PM
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148. We're screwed off another seat. Sigh. n/t
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 02:59 PM
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149. Sounds like we're trading one fucking Republican for another.
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 03:06 PM
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150. Good riddance.
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tonysam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 03:07 PM
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151. You know there is a girlfriend or some damned thing
in the background for him to suddenly resign.
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ObamaKerryDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 03:11 PM
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152. Good riddance!
He was more like a Republican anyway.
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 03:15 PM
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153. It's folks like Bayh that have destroyed this country and particularly the Dem party
Edited on Mon Feb-15-10 03:22 PM by ooglymoogly
that once had the peoples back; They have made a democratic presidency and the Dem congress no more than a ship of fools, capable of nothing more than dumb show and noise to cover for being corporate shills. This country will go down under this kind of dino leadership. Barring a revolution, the pugs (corpsters) have won the whole ball and things can only get worse from here on out unless we WAKE UP to the bill of goods, the corpsters are feeding us through corpmedia. The Dems once trusted to have the peoples back have become nothing more than corporate shills, thanks to these dinos. Dinos have made absolutely sure neither party can be trusted and are the same bunch of crooks no matter the D or R and for those who have not figured that out, they are enablers to this oncoming train of corporate thugs.
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windbreeze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 03:15 PM
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154. about that 13 Million in the bank...IF any of that money was campaign funds
he should have to turn it over to whomever runs for his Senate seat...wb
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 03:37 PM
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159. Nothing to lose - lets nominate a fire breathing leftist.
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janet118 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 05:47 PM
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184. A fire-breathing populist might actually win n/t
Pro-jobs, anti-NAFTA, stricter banking regulations, getting rid of tax cut for rich, college funding, improved veterans benefits, small business/farm help, etc.
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 10:58 PM
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232. Hey you just described a progressive. nt
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ccharles000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 03:48 PM
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160. It will probably be hard to hold.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 04:01 PM
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162. Any possibility that there are liberal/progressives from Indiana in the House?
Could we back anyone there to move them up to Senate?

Anyone here who can tell us of any liberal/progressive movement in the state?

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democraticinsurgent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 04:53 PM
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171. not likely
There is really no viable progressive movement here in Indiana. Successful Democrats are usually centrist a la Bayh, but not all of them are so finger-in-the-wind as he.

The top two candidates imho are Congressmen Hill and Ellsworth. My guess is that one of them has already been selected by the party.
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704wipes Donating Member (966 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 05:45 PM
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183. Andre Carson most definitely IS
His mother would turn over in her grave if he wasn't.
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notesdev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 04:02 PM
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163. Here come the inevitable
"BYE BYE BAYH" headlines
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penndragon69 Donating Member (409 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 05:20 PM
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176. Good riddance!
I was not going to vote for bayh again anyway, he's too much of a blue dog refugnican. Now we have a chance to
position some new blood into his former seat.

Considering the losers that the refugs have lining up for the seat, we have a fair shot at filling it with whom
ever the committee selects. Don't underestimate hoosiers, we are not as stupid as the right would like to believe.
The people have begun waking up from the bush nightmare to realize just how incompetent the refugs really are.
Of course all the farmers who enjoy their socialist farm subsidies will still vote for the fugs, but that cannot be helped, they are still
out of touch with reality as the banking MAFIA squeezes their financial lives away.

But don't worry about even, he will soon be a lobbyist for the health insurance MAFIA, working to prevent any kind of health care reform.
Just like he did all year in the Senate.
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 05:35 PM
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180. Ditto! and fuck Ellsworth too!!
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 05:21 PM
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177. Is he going to work for Goldman Sachs or United Health or PhRMA? nt
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NoodleyAppendage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 05:51 PM
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186. Good riddance DINO. Funny how the DINOs are running out the door...
...piss off your Democratic base and look what happens. The only thing worse than a Repuke is a lilly-livered corporate whore DINO...and Joe Lieberasshole.

J
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ProgressOnTheMove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 06:14 PM
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193. OMFG it's like the stars haVe aligned. This is a historic moment. It almost.
Doesn't matter that we are potentially going down. If Bayh has gone we'll win this because we have to win. AMEN.
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Myrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 06:22 PM
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194. "Oh Boo Hoo, we can't get anything done so I'm quitting"
.... what a whiner. :puke:
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 06:27 PM
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198. Sarah Palin & Evan Bayh = Quitters
Edited on Mon Feb-15-10 06:35 PM by Divine Discontent
Heaven forbid he actually fight for the country he loves instead of, more than likely, living off his wife's wealth obtained through his connections or becoming a lobbyists for millions himself.


Disgusting DINO.


see post 188 for info on signatures. Interesting. I guess they might have a fighting chance to win, which makes me think more than before that something came to light that damaged Bayh and he decided not to run...
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Betty Karlson Donating Member (902 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 06:31 PM
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199. Dont be too angry about the signatures-thing
See response # 188. It's a link with an observation worth reading.
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Luciferous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 07:09 PM
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202. Good. I hope they can find a good Democratic candidate to run.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 08:41 PM
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216. The state Democratic machine gets to choose, not the Democratic voters.
It smells to high heaven to me.
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LatteLibertine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 07:22 PM
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206. I prefer progressives myself
Edited on Mon Feb-15-10 07:26 PM by LatteLibertine
however I'm not sure we should do things that basically surrender mostly conservative areas to Republicans.

If we "get rid of" all conservative Democrats that makes it much easier for Republicans to take mostly conservative areas. People in said areas are more likely to vote for a Republican than someone they perceive as a liberal Democrat.

In addition, many independents are fiscally conservative and socially liberal.

Again, I prefer to promote progressive candidates and don't see them doing well in mostly conservative areas. IMO Blue Dogs would be more appropriate and have a better chance.

Furthermore, conservative Democrats are easier to persuade and bargain with than a Republican who's goal, as far as our party goes, is to see it fail by any means necessary.

I'm a liberal in fiscal and social matters. I realize most the country is not like me.
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Mr. Sparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 08:48 PM
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218. It was a bit self serving to announce it on Presidents day.
I was always surprised he was a Democrat, he came across on TV as a slimy republican.
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BlueCollar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 09:29 PM
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226. hasta la vista pendejo...
too hot in the kitchen?
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 09:53 PM
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229. Oh, yeah. He "serviced" his fellow citizens all right
And without lube.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 10:48 PM
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230. I will not miss him.
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New Dawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 11:38 PM
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236. Good riddance.
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DebbieCDC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 11:38 PM
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237. Good riddance
Edited on Tue Feb-16-10 12:03 AM by DebbieCDC
But the up-thread poster had a good point:

'Merkins DO have an "American Idol" mentality and attention span. So YES!!! Let's use that to our advantage.

Recruit progressives with BIG name recognition -- John Mellancamp in Indiana, Springsteen in NJ, John Fogerty in CA (I think), etc. -- to run for national office or statewide office. Christ, they can't be any worse that what we've got in there right now. At least we know their hearts and minds are in the right place.

On edit: sp.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-15-10 11:47 PM
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238. And to think Obama almost picked this LOSER for VP - glad he came to his senses.
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 09:24 AM
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245. Good riddance to a fucking DINO - he's a repuke at heart anyway...
He won't be missed - that's for sure!!!
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Opie Umden Donating Member (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 10:52 AM
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250. Effin' Bayh
His retirement will give him more time to concentrate on his duties as a "contributor" at Fox.
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PoliticalOne65 Donating Member (98 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-16-10 08:22 PM
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263. If he doesn't want to run I'm fine with it.
If he doesn't want to run I am fine with it, But the problem is he did this two days before the deadline to file for the primaries in that state. So far no one has filed. So as of right now a republican might run unopposed.
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