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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 05:00 PM
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President Obama: ‘Ultimately the buck stops with me’
Edited on Thu Jan-07-10 05:46 PM by cal04
Source: Associated Press

President addresses errors before terror attack on airliner to Detroit

President Barack Obama said Thursday that ‘shortcomings occurred’ in sifting through intelligence that prevented agencies from connecting the dots about the attempted Christmas Day jet bombing.

"We must follow the leads that we get," he said in an afternoon news conference. "We must do better at keeping dangerous people off airplanes."

He said he's ordered U.S. agencies to move faster and more accurately in adding suspects to the watch lists designed to stop terrorists before they strike. This would mean that individuals with potential ties to terrorist organizations or violent extremists like the Christmas Day bombing suspect would be included in the watch lists more rapidly. It was expected that this effort would require additional resources such as better screening at airports around the world.


http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_OBAMA_AIRLINE_SECURITY?SITE=NHPOR&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

Obama Releases Security Review of Attempted Bombing
http://abcnews.go.com/WN/obama-releases-security-review-attempted-bombing/story?id=9501601

Read more: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34746138/ns/us_news-airliner_security/
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 05:02 PM
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1. Illustrating yet another massive difference between him and Bush.
I guarantee you that Dubya would have been firing people left and right trying to create a scapegoat.
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abluelady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 05:06 PM
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2. Although bush was Known to Promote Very Bad Behavior
"Way to go Brownie."
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 05:23 PM
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4. "Smirk." - xCommander AWOL (R)
Edited on Thu Jan-07-10 05:24 PM by SpiralHawk
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Nickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 06:38 PM
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9. Right, like all those folks that got fired after 9/11.....oh wait.....
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-08-10 08:02 AM
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20. When did Bush ever fire anyone?
The cronies had to put a gun to his head to dislodge even the most disreputable of the Bushies.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-08-10 12:11 PM
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23. OK, I guess I should have been a bit more specific.
It would end up a lot like the Scooter Libby thing--they'd find a fall guy, pin it on him, then fire him and point to him as "one bad apple".
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FarLeftFist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 05:19 PM
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3. Violent extremists....
RW christian abortion bombers, neo-Nazi's, KKK members....The list goes on and on.
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fl_dem Donating Member (444 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 05:24 PM
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5. refreshing to have a president
that takes responsibilty for his actions.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 11:14 PM
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fl_dem Donating Member (444 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-08-10 08:28 AM
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21. so you and Demeter both think our President is a sociopath?
Thats what I take from your comments. As POTUS, the buck DOES stop with him, he is responsible for America's safety, he knows and owns it. Please tell me how that make him at the least have sociopathic tendencies?
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Iowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-08-10 03:58 PM
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24. I did explain it. I could go into much greater detail...
...but I won't and can't for three reasons:

1) This is a forum designed for brief posts. There simply isn't enough room.

2) You can't just read about sociopathic behavior and expect to understand it. It requires real-life experience, preferably under the tutelage of others who have had a lot of real-life experience.

3) You aren't interested in learning about sociopathic behavior. You believe that Obama is a wonderful, selfless, honest guy. He could do pretty much anything, explain it away (or deflect your attention) in his skillful and charming way, and you would leap to his defense. Those with experience know that this is also very common and to be expected. Only a rookie would undertake the hopeless task of trying to change the thinking of someone like you. It usually takes years of abuse and betrayal before someone with your mindset allows themselves to consider other possibilities. And by that time, it's too late. The damage has been done.

I'm not trying to offend you. I just happened to be in a line of work that involved a lot of exposure to this type of thing. Most people don't get it and never will. And I do hear what you're saying; I have heard it a thousand times over the years.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-08-10 04:10 PM
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25. I'm Starting to get it...
in fact I posted a thread here a couple days ago in relation to sociopathy. To me this subject matter is fascinating and scary at the same time. It explains how some could lie so much about something that effects so many.
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Iowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-08-10 05:32 PM
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26. Hi fascisthunter. It is fascinating. And it has a direct bearing on who we select to represent us.
Unfortunately, open discussion about such issues is stifled here. My original post was deleted by DU.

It is becoming more and more difficult for progressives to post here - especially progressives who are fed up with the repeated betrayals of the corporate-owned Democratic party. I'd venture a guess that's the majority here.
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fl_dem Donating Member (444 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-09-10 11:08 AM
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27. no offense taken
My question was genuine, and wasn't based on ignorance, I am well versed on a sociopath's behavior through personal not professional interest. I've never associated any of those traits with our President.....I did however associate narcissistic personality disorder on our pre.v administrator :)

I was medically diagnosed and treated incorrectly and ineffectually for 6 years by a specialist, the new doctor who correctly diagnosed me defended the other doctor by saying, the field of rheumatology is what he does, he lives and breathes it 10/15 hours a day for the last 25 years, so when he seen you, he seen what he knows, he can't help it,he looks for it, is a phenomena similar to pareidolia...is this per chance the same thing you may be doing, since you are in this line of work and exposed to this? Again no offense taken nor do I mean any, but what you implying scares me more than my impending job loss resulting in loss of insurance with a pre-existing condition and the thought of Palin being elected in 2012 all wrapped up.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 05:38 PM
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6. Obama recognizes something many DUers do not:
that the buck does stop with him. There has been criticism of him here that at its heart is based upon that principle, that the buck stops with him, that ultimately he is responsible and he recognizes that he is.

This is refreshing after 8 years of Bush who could never bring himself to admit that he ever made a mistake.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 05:50 PM
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7. This is a Really Stupid Thing For President to Say
He's doing what Jimmy Carter did, setting himself up for responsibility that isn't his so the GOP and the BFEE can do him in.

Well, I guess Obama's going for the Triple Crown--make all the mistakes that last three Democratic Presidents made: LBJ's escalation of illegal war, Carter's Rose Garden fiasco, and Clinton's gutting the regulations.
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Bigmack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 06:34 PM
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8. Damn... that is good history! .....
I agree entirely... especially the war part. LBJ and "that bitch of a war" is a great example of how a president stopped the buck to the point of losing his presidency.

I might add that Obama should make it clear that the buck stops with him, and that anybody on his team who fucks up is gonna get fired.

That not only sends a message of competence and control to the people, it sends a message to the members of his team... perform or get the ax.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 06:47 PM
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10. It IS his responsibility
The GOP will blame him for everything no matter what he says.
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 07:22 PM
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12. Well then fine. At least he's got the balls to take responsibility!
If Bush had any balls, they were too pickled in booze to be of any use in bed and clearly weren't of any use in office. No Bill Clinton jokes please.

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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 07:20 PM
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11. What a HUGE change from the "buck stops anywhere but me" policy of the shrub.
It is SO nice to have an adult in the White House. How the FUCK did we make it through eight years of a drunken idiot? And it wasn't that long ago that we made it through eight years of a senile moron followed by four years of a wimpy crook.

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gimama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 08:04 PM
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13. Dear Pres. Obama,
Please fire ALL of cheney's left-behinders.
More than ONE "systemic problem" will be resolved when You do.
That is all.
Sincerely,
gimama
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Bigmack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 09:01 PM
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14. I just read that Gen. McCaffrey...
says we can look forward to 300-500 casualties per month by next year.

I hope Pres. Obama is prepared to accept that "buck".

Every one of those casualties rests on his head, and every one of those casualties will lessen my support for his presidency.

It's actually quite easy to say that "the buck stops here", but I don't understand how any president can sleep at night after sending Americans to suffer and die for nothing.
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gimama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 09:25 PM
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15. well said :(
Bring Them HOME,NOW.

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DeeOwl Donating Member (26 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-07-10 09:34 PM
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16. Let me guess....
...and then you take that buck Mr. Prez and put it with the other "bucks" that "stopped there" and then you go buy Michelle a fancy dinner?

The first obvious sign this guy was out-for-himself was back in January when he was spending ridiculous amounts of time picking out dogs for his kids and taking his wife to fancy dinners every other night. Sure, the economy is collapsing, there are two wars to be fought, but forget that, what's important is what type of dog is cutest and if the wife will like that nice piece of jewelry I got her, right Mr. Prez? (Afforded no doubt with all those "bucks that stopped" in the vicnity, eh?).

What I want to know is, how much will Mr. Obama charge for his speaking tours after his term is done? 100k per session, like Bush Sr. and Clinton do?

All these types think about is filling their pockets first and foremost. Color, party, age, and sex have nothing to do with it.
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-08-10 01:10 AM
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18. The only bucks that stop with Obama are the bankers' bribes.
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-08-10 08:33 AM
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22. where'd the buck stop for yr "promise" that you wouldn't sign a health care bill without a PO?
more meaningless sloganeering, and not even original.
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