Breaking on CNN TV...no link yet...

[Career Prole]

Spanish prime minister announces videotape found with Arabic-speaking man with Moroccan accent claiming to be Al Qaeda European military spokesman claims Al Qaeda responsible for Spanish train bombing. Turned in to Spanish television station.
Authenticity of tape not yet verified...

[BootinUp]

1. I think Al Qaeda is involved, its just to big

for it to be the local ETA movement based on their previous activities.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

38. I think OSP is involved. Who has the most to gain...

...Al Qaeda if Spain stops backing the U. S., or the NeoCons if they get more global/national sympathy for the so-called "War on Terror"?

[BootinUp]

42. Well I presume

that Al Qaeda still wants to fan the flames of muslim hate for the west. Remember their goal is basically all out war , Muslims vs Christians. They will continue to provoke us to attack other muslim nations.

[Unknown Known]

2. Bye-bye Aznar

Take a look at this!

[LynzM]

3. Wow, that picture!

I wonder where all of that anger and upset is going to go if that's true... and what the repercussions will be for * given that he chose to go after Iraq instead of Al-Qaeda....

[revcarol]

6. Is that now or a previous protest against the war?

x

[Minstrel Boy]

10. that's now n/t

[muriel_volestrangler]

12. No - see the photo at this story

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/custom/attack/bal-te.spain13mar13,0,3934712.story?coll=bal-nationworld-headlines

[Minstrel Boy]

20. as I said, it's now: AP photo Mar 12 n/t

[muriel_volestrangler]

22. It's now March 14th in Spain n/t

[Minstrel Boy]

26. It's not a "previous protest against the war", is it?

It's in response to these attacks.

[muriel_volestrangler]

28. Sorry, I didn't read your post properly

I leapt to the wrong conclusion that you were saying it was Saturday's anti-Aznar protest.

[Minstrel Boy]

35. And I'm sorry for not being clearer with my meaning of "now"

[mot78]

17. They're not protesting against war

They're protesting Al Qaida.

[never cry wolf]

34. They are protesting their current RW admin

Who supported the war and brought the wrath of al quaida upon them for siding with shrubbie.

[Aidoneus]

8. he was gone anyway

he was not in the running this year.. bye-bye 'his hand-picked successor', maybe.

[gristy]

9. wow.

Man, oh, man.

[muriel_volestrangler]

11. Aznar led that protest

The Baltimore Sun story it came from:

It was the evening protest, though, that brought the record numbers together in one cause. Police had estimated that perhaps 1 million people would march in Madrid. By 10 p.m. they said more than double that number - 2.3 million - had turned out.

Aznar led the demonstration, joined by Prime Minister Jean-Pierre Raffarin of France and Romano Prodi, president of the European Union's executive arm. Also marching were Prince Felipe of Spain and his sister Christine.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/custom/attack/bal-te.spain13mar13,0,3934712.story?coll=bal-nationworld-headlines

[July]

14. Well, all the parties were out.

That's the way it works. He's PM, so he got to be in the front next to the heir to the throne. BTW, all the footage I saw (on Spain's TVE) showed the Prince next to his sister Elena, not Cristina.

[muriel_volestrangler]

18. Yes, but the point is

that was not an anti-Aznar demonstration, so "By, Bye Aznar" isn't an appropriate title for it.

[July]

19. I can't speak for the poster, but

it sounded like that poster was saying that Aznar was in trouble with the admission of that it appears to be someone other than ETA who is responsible.

[Unknown Known]

23. Yes, the people are angry because they feel Aznar was covering-up

I thought this was obvious, but I should never assume.

[muriel_volestrangler]

25. Yes, he (or his party) may be in trouble

but the photo has nothing to do with that. The photo was the anti-bomb demonstration on Friday; but some people here have already got the impression it was the anti-Aznar demonstration on Saturday.

[Nay]

36. Ho-ly SHIT.

Boy, are they pissed. Wanna bet the rightwingers don't get re-elected tomorrow??

[AliceWonderland]

4. Wow, Al Qaeda now has

regional military spokesmen. If, of course, the tape is "authentic."

[plurality]

5. Probably as authentic as the Osama 'confession'

[Gin]

7. If they are voting on Diebold machines...Aznar is in...I hope he loses..

because he is a loser...like shrub.

[plurality]

13. at least the Spanish know how to spot craven political manipulation

Wish I could say the same for most Americans.

[boobooday]

15. Look at all the people!

That is an amazing photo.

Lo Siento, Spain!

Aznar is out. Bush is going to be out. Blair is going to be out.

Then, we will have a party that big, all over the world! Only it will be throngs of happy, rejoicing people, free of the BUSH REGIME at last!

http://www.wgoeshome.com

[RainBoy]

16. This is bad news for us Dems...

We better either jump on the terrorist fighting bandwagon or quit dogging the bushless people about terrorism. People are sheep. Bushbaby has terror war all over his campaign and an attack like spain is a grim reminder that it's far from over. Kerry is looking really weak in the terror war issue because of his anti-war history and the bushless people know this and will use it against us.

Don't even think about it as a failure in bushbaby's war on terror either because bushbaby's been harping all along that this war is far from over and will flood the newswires like a media whore with details of all the terrorist attacks that were thwarted by the government and all the al qaeda that were captured and used to stop those planned attacks. This would fly in the face of all Kerry's criticism because people are sheep and Kerry has yet to offer a viable alternative to bushbaby's war except turn to the UN (who really does have a problem dealing with the likes of bin laden). We can't ignore that.

This attack in Spain is just another 'See, I told you so' for bushbaby.

[muriel_volestrangler]

21. 'Us Dems'?

What anti-war history? When did Kerry oppose fighting terrorism?

[plurality]

24. Or another see I told you so on the right and wrong way to fight terror

During Clinton's 8 years there were what TWO terror attacks? With Bush there's been like 30. Seems like a pretty shitty record of fighting terror to me.

[Lefta Dissenter]

27. Well,

Welcome to DU, RainBoy... :hi:

I think you're making the point for 'us Dems'

'bushbaby' chose to neglect the hunt for Al Qaeda in order to pursue his war in Iraq - something he has wanted... well, something his daddy has wanted all along.

Perhaps if we had pursued the group who actually carried out the attacks on September 11, 2001, the attack in Spain wouldn't have happened. Instead we have wasted thousands of lives and billions of dollars demolishing a country that had nothing to do with Al Queda or September 11, 2001.

[CerealMurderer]

30. if we had pursued the group who actually carried out the attacks

What? The Madrid bombing is somehow our fault now?

BTW, what does Iraq have to do with any of this?

[Lefta Dissenter]

33. Oh look!

It's another newcomer to DU! :hi:

Well, no, I didn't exactly say it's our fault. But who carried out the attacks on the U.S. on September 11? RIGHT! Al Qaeda!

Who did we attack in the first months after September 11? Yes, right again, Al Qaeda.

But then what has happened? Somehow we got sidetracked into invading Iraq - a country that had nothing to do with September 11 and posed little or no threat to our country, despite the fact that their leader is a bad guy.

Now, who has been free to carry out other attacks around the world, including this most recent one in Spain? BINGO! Right again! It's Al Qaeda! Apparently, in our big fight against terror, we've forgotten to actually go after the terrorists!!! :shrug:

[CerealMurderer]

37. Why would AQ attack Spain is my question

What does America have to do with AQ attacking Spain?

[bemildred]

44. al Qaeda, in their statement claiming responsibility for this

attack, SAYS it is punishment for joining the USA in attacking
Iraq. Here is the statement:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x39589

[CerealMurderer]

45. But there is NO connection between Iraq and AQ

Why would AQ care about Iraq unless there was a connection between them?

We know for a fact that Iraq and AQ have nothing in common and is a cornerstone of our attack on bush trying to say AQ and Iraq were connected. With that FACT in mind how can we lend any credibility to AQ for saying Spain was bombed because America attacked Iraq?

Remember, there is NO connection between Iraq and AQ.

[mike1963]

29. "...See, I told you so" ?? Told us WHAT? The world is safer???

jeezus gimme a break...
:grr:

[Zynx]

31. No. Wrong. If any thing it is the other way around.

It proves he has not been successful in dismantling Al-Qaeda.

[Sugarbleus]

41. Your answer fits with my way of looking at this...

I was thinking about how much "they" shook the stick at Clinton for "not doing enough" or "not finding OBL" etc. Now, we can say: Bush 'You didn't do so well yourself so shutup'. They cannot blame Clinton for terror anymore; Bush hasn't "fixed" the problems either....though he's had ample opportunity to do so. Bush wasted time, lives, money, and military power in Iraq instead of earnestly going after the real perps. The bombings contine. :(

[0007]

32. LOL! your kidding, huh?

The U.N. has a problem dealing with junior.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

39. Yikes.

[Palacsinta]

40. No...it's "Bad News" for the dead in Spain!

You MORAN! If this criminally insane administration had focused on AQ, and had kept the support of the international community AND had built up Afghanistan after it bombed the hell out of it AND had built up our own defenses by adequetly funding our responders AND not lied, manipulated, effing CHEATED it's way into into attacking Iraq................

I've got to quit typing......I can't take it any longer.

[Dr Fate]

43. If Bush's plan was working- why did this even HAPPEN?

DEMS should paint this as "another" Bush failure to prevent terrorism.

[Moderator]

46. Please continue this discussion on this thread.

Thank you

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