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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 08:09 PM
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AP sources: Al-Qaida link in failed plane attack
Source: LARRY MARGASAK and LARA JAKES, Associated Press

AP sources: Al-Qaida link in failed plane attack



WASHINGTON A Northwest Airlines passenger from Nigeria, who said he was acting on al-Qaida's instructions, tried to blow up the plane Friday as it was landing in Detroit, law enforcement and national security officials said.

Passengers subdued the man and may have prevented him from detonating the explosives, the officials said.

"We believe this was an attempted act of terrorism," a White House official said.

Federal officials imposed stricter screening measures after the incident.



Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_airliner_disturbance



Can't wait for the Freeptrolls to claim Obama can't keep the US safe
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 08:12 PM
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1. As long as President Obama has combat troops in Afghanistan and Iraq, Americans are LESS SAFE. eom
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YouTakeTheSkyway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 08:16 PM
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3. As if they weren't attempting to kill us before there were troops in Af. or Iraq?
I sincerely question your reasoning on thihs.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 08:19 PM
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6. Think about it: if we had Chinese Combat Troops here, would you have GOOD WILL toward that country?
NO, you would HATE the nation that OCCUPIES you.

Every DAY our combat troops remain in the ME, Americans are less safe both at home and abroad.
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YouTakeTheSkyway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 08:24 PM
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9. Since we're not occupying Nigeria, you don't have much of an argument.
"The Northwest passenger, identified as a Nigerian national "claiming to have extremist affiliation," was placed in custody and is being treated for burns suffered in the explosion, according to a federal government bulletin obtained by CNN from a source familiar with the investigation."

http://www.cnn.com/2009/TRAVEL/12/25/airliner.firecrack...
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lollybaby Donating Member (63 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 10:15 PM
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20. I agree with your assessment on this but here is a missing perspective...
Nigerians celebrate Christmas with setting off fire-crackers. The questions are, is this particular Nigerian visiting the United States for the very first time? Was he engaging in his country's practice of celebrating Christmas with fire-cracker? Did he choose the very worse place to engage in his celebrations?
Like you stated, the mere possession of fire-crackers and displaying them on a plane should get this idiot (and I do not use the word 'idiot' lightly) charged with terrorism. But let us remember not everyone is aware of our laws, security concerns and way of life, I am just saying...
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Texas Mom Donating Member (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 10:44 PM
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21. Since this guy is not a Christian
I seriously doubt he was "celebrating" Christmas. I am just saying.............
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lollybaby Donating Member (63 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 11:19 PM
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25. Quick question, Texasmom, how did you know this suspect is not a christian?
I know a bit about Nigeria, there are Christians with predominantly Muslim names as there are Muslims with predominantly Christian names. One can not tell but that is not the point I am making here. What I would like you to consider is, cultures have different ways they collectively celebrate Christmas. In the United States, people regardless of their faith celebrate Christmas also known as Holidays with gift buying and giving. In Nigeria, folks regardless of their faith celebrate Christmas collectively by setting off fire-crackers like we do on July 4th. You do not have to be a Christian to engage in this practice.

And like I said, this idiot should be charged with terrorism for his action but let's not build an elaborate story around it. I am just saying...
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JonQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 11:39 PM
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26. Not a lot of christians lately
trying to blow up planes while claiming ties to al-qaeda.
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bluedave Donating Member (206 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 07:39 AM
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33. yep
I Hate it when that happens
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crazyjoe Donating Member (921 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 09:15 AM
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43. ok, that's a good point
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Christa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 09:58 AM
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36. A major flaw in you post
They don't set off fire crackers strapped to their legs.

:banghead:



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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 08:15 PM
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2. TFT: HC bill passes, Al Q pops up with....firecrackers?
Interesting timing.
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YouTakeTheSkyway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 08:17 PM
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4. Props to the passengers who subdued this guy.
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rollin74 Donating Member (489 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 08:18 PM
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5. absolutely!
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 08:20 PM
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7. If only we could "subdue" our Military Industrial Complex, the WORLD would be
Edited on Fri Dec-25-09 08:21 PM by ShortnFiery
A LESS dangerous place. :(

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YouTakeTheSkyway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 08:25 PM
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10. Got news for ya
The MIC aren't the only folks in the world who advocate war, aggression, or killing.
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BeatleBoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 08:42 PM
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14. No shit.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 08:23 PM
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8. Dubious.
"One law enforcement source said the man claimed to have been instructed by al-Qaida to detonate the plane over U.S. soil.

"The official said an official determination of a terrorist act would have to come from the attorney general."
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BeatleBoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 08:47 PM
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15. WTF?
White House now confirms it.

What a bunch of pussies.

Sissy fucks.



:mad:





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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 09:55 AM
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35. Exactly the line I zoned in on rug. Even for the AP this source is horseshit.
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SnakeEyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 08:28 PM
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11. Yeah well..
I think the initial firecracker reports were the truth and then someone in the administration saw it as an opportunity to turn it into terra, say al qaeda, and promote fear... again :sigh: Bu$h may be gone but the new boss is the same as the old and they need evidence of why we need to kill innocents in Afghanistan until the oil pipeline is finished.
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YouTakeTheSkyway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 08:30 PM
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12. Other than your own suspicious nature, do you have anything to base your position on?
Because the claim of someone randomly lighting up a few firecrackers on a passenger jet, to no real end, seems a bit sketchy as well.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 08:51 PM
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SnakeEyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 01:02 AM
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30. Hmm
I don't know what this means so I can't respond. Was I supposed to?
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 08:05 AM
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34. It means you rolled the dice
...and came up a loser.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 10:49 AM
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44. DUzy
:rofl:
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 10:58 AM
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40. Sounds about right to me, too.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 08:37 PM
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 08:50 PM
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16. I suspect he's a lone nut jobbie
He may be a genuine militant ROPer but I doubt that the "real" AQ would attempt something so ham-handed.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 10:04 PM
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 11:40 PM
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27. Renee, hunh?
mmmkay
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 10:11 PM
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19. Good job, passengers!
:woohoo:


I see the knee-jerkers that think AQ is a neo-con conspiracy have popped up. :eyes:
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 10:47 PM
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22. let me know when it's time to duct tape my house
in the meantime , Im taking a nap.
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RealityInSeattle Donating Member (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 10:58 PM
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23. The most well-run bloodthirsty terrorist group in the world, huh.
I have faced more significant threats when I was riding on my school bus in 8th grade.

This is the military force that is going to topple the face of democracy, huh.
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 11:03 PM
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24. Or just leave your body ass naked in a tree..
and drop jet parts all over detroit. Hope he keeps talking, lots to learn from his buddies. I bet the nigerian military will be really nice to them once we are done, if we hand them over.

I will withhold until the details of what he tried to detonate are out.
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Fearless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 12:05 AM
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28. I don't see how the failure of this has anything to do with the President
Just saying.
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jimlup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 12:10 AM
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29. Doesn't but
that won't stop the freeptards. These people are irrational and slow.
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dencol Donating Member (297 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 02:50 AM
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31. This is why money should go toward security, not wars.
Iraq and Afghanistan are complete wastes of our time and resources. I thought we were fighting them to prevent this sort of thing. Anybody who supports these silly wars want to start rattling the saber at Nigeria now? This is insane. We need to redeploy back home, and focus on transportation and border security, because those are obviously the sources of our terrorism problems, assuming these attacks aren't inside jobs.
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DesertDiamond Donating Member (838 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 02:51 AM
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32. I find it interesting that everytime something like this happens, it's some bozo who can't even
do it right. Ever notice? Makes me wonder if it's just another attempt to make us afraid.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 10:09 AM
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38. Whoever did the Towers had their shit together and took their time.
I don't believe at all that boneheads like these are operating with any real backing or attention from the same organization.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 10:51 AM
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45. Most people are too smart to do something like that, and most of us have better morals
The guy is undoubtedly a nutcase.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 10:05 AM
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37. Taking this story as written this is a bullshit "Terra" propaganda piece.
Edited on Sat Dec-26-09 10:06 AM by shadowknows69
Doesn't pass the smell test at all. One law enforcement officer said this guy claimed to be AQ? Really? One source and then several saying not necessarily, but you go with the one source?

"One law enforcement official said the man claimed to have been instructed by al-Qaida to detonate the plane over U.S. soil, but other law enforcement officials cautioned that such claims could not be verified immediately, and said the man may have been acting independently inspired but not specifically trained or ordered by terror groups."

NOt saying it wasn't a terrorist attempt, but this AP story is biased and it appears the WH is jumping on it to play the "fear" card. I'm waiting to see what the device ends up being and if this guy was being so heavily watched and was on no fly lists, then how the fuck did he get on an international flight?

Shouldn't we be invading Nigeria now as well since this was clearly an Al-Qaida attempt, but he wasn't trained anywhere, just inspired by AQ. So doesn't that make the whole country of Nigeria guilty of harboring terrorists? Let loose the drones of war President Hawkman!!!

Yeah... :sarcasm: on that last part..... :nuke:
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Jazzgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 10:25 AM
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39. You got it shadow.
The fact that he thought he could detonate the plane with firecrackers was enough to make me pause and think. More fear......
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 11:09 AM
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41. I am willing to bet the story will buried.."natinal security" reasons, and all that.
It will all go bye bye hush hush, the better to spin the story that is needed.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 10:52 AM
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46. I would have no problem with saturation-bombing any AQ traning camps in Nigeria
Or anywhere else.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 11:00 AM
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47. I"m sure there must be an Air Force recruiter near you. Go get em tiger.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 11:32 AM
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48. I'm 51
I wanted to go to the Naval Academy after high school but was unable to qualify due to a physical disability.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 11:14 AM
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42. Later reports in British press is that there is no direct Al-Qaeda connection
and that this was another lone wolf that aspired to be part of Al-Qaeda, similar to those US citizens that traveled to Pakistan seeking jihadist groups.

Abdul Farouk Abdulmutallab had a valid US visa, according to BBC, and comes from a well-to-do Nigerian family in London.

University College London said it had a student with a similar name enrolled until mid-2008, but could not confirm whether it was the same person being questioned by US authorities.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8430699.stm
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