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xray s Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-04 11:28 PM
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Cache of military explosives found in suburban Chicago field
Edited on Fri Mar-12-04 11:29 PM by xray s
http://abclocal.go.com/wls/news/031204_ns_explosivesfound.html

Military-style explosives found in Lake County

By Paul Meincke
March 12, 2004 — A stash of explosives were found in Lake County. The military-grade devices include a type of plastic explosive that is capable of significant damage. Authorities will not say exactly where they found the explosives and they don't know where they came from or who left them behind.

Two men were walking in a farm field in the northeastern section of Lake County Friday looking for deer antler when they came across this collection of explosives.

The explosives were found underneath a section of green-colored canvas out in a Lake County farm field. Eight illumination flares, a small number of booby trap flashes, blasting caps and, the most dangerous, four pounds of C-4 explosives -- some in customary blocks and the rest in customary pieces. C-4 is military made and can pack a real wallop.
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"Recently we saw what has occurred overseas in Spain. We simply do not know at this point what the intent might be. That's why we're working the case with the level of staffing that we've allocated to this case to make those kinds of determinations. We were very concerned about what we've uncovered," said Sheriff Gary Del Re.

Some of the explosives devices appear to be pretty old. They're being checked for fingerprints. The FBI is also assisting in the case.


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kalian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-04 11:30 PM
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1. Why do I get the feeling....
that we're being setup...?
You know, for MARTIAL LAW?
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-04 11:32 PM
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3. Because we are?
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Jax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-04 11:31 PM
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2. So THAT'S where Saddam
moved his weapons of mass destruction!

Time to invade Illinois! <sarcasm off>

Jax

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juajen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-04 11:37 PM
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4. Me thinks we are building up the "fear factor" for the election
Gotta expect the expected.

Bin Laden Captured

Red Alert

Explosives everywhere
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metisnation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 12:02 AM
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7. PRIMARY IN ILLINOIS IN TWO DAYS
OMG this is obvious fear mongering...this is sick.
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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-04 11:40 PM
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5. Since they are
pretty old, the military could have put them there and forgot about it.
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xray s Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-04 11:49 PM
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6. I doubt the military put them in a farm field and left them
The only military base anywhere near Lake County is Great Lakes Naval. I don't think they run around the countryside with explosives.

I don't know what to make of this story. I don't know how easy it is to get your hands on C-4.
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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 12:11 AM
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8. Hell
bombing practice in ABQ during WWII has unexploded bombs all over the west side and there is lots of development there now.
Kirkland AFB and Sandia Labs have lots of stuff from WWII that drips into the water table.
C-4 has been around for awhile. Could be more recent, but as I say the military could have lost it or some GIs wanted to do a bank job.
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xray s Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 12:14 AM
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9. But this was found in a farm field
Edited on Sat Mar-13-04 12:17 AM by xray s
It would have been plowed up last fall. Seems to me it would have to of been left there in the last 5 or 6 months.

Maybe by some local boys who like to make thinks go boom? :shrug:
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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 12:18 AM
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10. Could be anybody
but old is older than 5 or 6 months. How much uphevel in your area?
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xray s Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 12:21 AM
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11. Quite a bit
We have had some real swings in temps lately. Could explain it.
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 12:46 AM
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12. Isn't Lake County in Indiana
Edited on Sat Mar-13-04 12:47 AM by DBoon
Whiting, Hammond, etc.

Croatian terrorists in this area?
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 12:51 AM
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13. Yep, there is one in Indiana also
Northwestern Indiana is called Lake County and the area north of suburban Chicago is called Lake County.
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Chicago Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 12:56 AM
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15. Lake County IL
is known recently for skinheads.


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Chicago Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 12:54 AM
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14. Lake County Right Wing Republican Paramilitary Organizations
They exist they are real. They believe in crazy paranoid bullshit.


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SaintLouisBlues Donating Member (755 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 12:57 AM
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16. Illinois Nazis
I Hate Illinois Nazis!
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T Bone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 02:35 AM
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17. Time to get Jake and Elwood Blues on the case
They took care of those nazis in the movie.


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Rich Hunt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 03:47 AM
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18. yes
That was my first thought.
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yltlatl Donating Member (152 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 11:58 AM
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19. So Many Possibilities
There are just so many parties with an interest in terror (which includes the fear of violence) aren't there?

I'd say it's pretty easy to get your hands on C4 considering it's apparently not very hard to get your hands on anthrax from Army labs.

It shouldn't be overlooked that not every whacko right-wing organization is necessarily just a whacko right-wing organization:

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2004/mar2004/mcv-m08.shtml

"The AP revealed that the Justice Department withheld evidence at McVeigh’s 1997 trial, including documents showing that the Aryan Republican Army bank robbers possessed explosive blasting caps similar to those stolen by McVeigh, as well as a driver’s license bearing the name of a man robbed to help fund the Oklahoma bombing plot. The evidence was never shared with Oklahoma City investigators or McVeigh’s defense attorneys. The government’s official version of the bombing asserted that only two individuals were involved, McVeigh and a former army buddy, Terry Nichols."
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