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demoleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-21-09 04:48 AM Original message |
Retired US official and wife admit spying for Cuba |
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Lasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-21-09 05:42 AM Response to Original message |
1. Here's what the US DOJ said: |
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clixtox (941 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-21-09 09:18 PM Response to Reply #1 |
21. What secrets? |
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bjobotts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-22-09 01:52 AM Response to Reply #21 |
36. Don't kid yourself.State has access to all kinds of secrets info like nculear weapons blueprints |
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clixtox (941 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-22-09 02:16 AM Response to Reply #36 |
37. Really? You must have forgotten the sarcasm thingy! |
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Lagomorph (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-22-09 02:43 AM Response to Reply #37 |
38. You seem to have the inside scoop |
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clixtox (941 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-22-09 03:57 AM Response to Reply #38 |
40. The only way to learn "the inside scoop" is to do your own research! |
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MellowDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-22-09 09:44 PM Response to Reply #21 |
70. I don't know! |
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jasi2006 (544 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-22-09 05:53 AM Response to Reply #1 |
46. And the israeli spy goes free? Franklin nt |
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Botany (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-21-09 05:47 AM Response to Original message |
2. So this was caught under Obama but missed under bush and his .... |
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Crowman1979 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-21-09 11:08 AM Response to Reply #2 |
5. The chickenhawk was more afraid of peaceful protestors in funny costumes than actual threats to... |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-21-09 08:07 AM Response to Original message |
3. Prison? Seriously? Who fucking cares? |
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naaman fletcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-21-09 01:09 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. What if those battlefield operations |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-21-09 05:01 PM Response to Reply #6 |
12. I think those things would be fine. |
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naaman fletcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-21-09 05:12 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. so... |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-21-09 10:55 PM Response to Reply #14 |
24. massive text-fail |
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naaman fletcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-22-09 12:46 AM Response to Reply #24 |
34. huh? |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-22-09 08:39 AM Response to Reply #34 |
50. The US keeps people from leaving the country. |
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naaman fletcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-22-09 09:27 AM Response to Reply #50 |
52. Huh again. |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-22-09 11:47 AM Response to Reply #52 |
57. ok then... |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-21-09 02:13 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. Damage or no. They're still traitors. |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-21-09 05:04 PM Response to Reply #8 |
13. Why? |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-21-09 11:02 PM Response to Reply #13 |
26. Because they betrayed their country. |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-21-09 11:15 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. what is a country if not its people? |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-21-09 11:51 PM Response to Reply #27 |
33. You do realize that no country could or would function like that. |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-22-09 08:58 AM Response to Reply #33 |
51. well, we clearly disagree |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-22-09 06:59 PM Response to Reply #51 |
67. Yes, we disagree. |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-22-09 07:39 PM Response to Reply #67 |
69. The US has gone first on other things, and people have followed us |
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AlphaCentauri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-22-09 04:31 PM Response to Reply #33 |
66. You are applying the concept of free market to global politics |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-22-09 07:00 PM Response to Reply #66 |
68. Real life. |
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imdjh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-22-09 09:31 AM Response to Reply #13 |
53. Better to be silent and thought a fool..... Seriously, you're wrong here. |
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AlphaCentauri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-22-09 04:25 PM Response to Reply #53 |
65. They can be consider traitors as cuban blogger yoani sanchez may be |
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clixtox (941 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-21-09 08:50 PM Response to Reply #3 |
20. Secrets? Our supposed enemies already know all the secrets. |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-21-09 10:39 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. oh, I've thought about it |
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clixtox (941 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-22-09 12:54 AM Response to Reply #23 |
35. #1. I agree with you in general and maybe "secret" is the wrong word? |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-22-09 08:19 AM Response to Reply #35 |
49. Yeah, I think we're probably on the same page here (nt) |
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Ter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-22-09 02:51 AM Response to Reply #20 |
39. You have no idea the secrets our government has |
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clixtox (941 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-22-09 04:24 AM Response to Reply #39 |
44. The US State Department has been entrusted with that info? |
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barbtries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-22-09 07:07 AM Response to Reply #3 |
48. that was my reaction. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-21-09 10:24 AM Response to Original message |
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hmorehead (656 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-21-09 02:09 PM Response to Original message |
7. I'm sorry. Whatever possible damage they did to this country pales next to the damage |
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Paladin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-21-09 02:52 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. Well Said, hmorehead. (n/t) |
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naaman fletcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-21-09 05:13 PM Response to Reply #7 |
16. So you support free trade with cuba? |
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mddem9850 (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-21-09 08:38 PM Response to Reply #7 |
19. This is just ridiculous |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-21-09 02:28 PM Response to Original message |
9. Had they spied for Israel, the charges would have been dropped |
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hmorehead (656 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-21-09 04:12 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Jonathon Pollard might disagree with you, but there is a difference between Israel and Cuba. |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-21-09 05:13 PM Response to Reply #11 |
15. Pollard was betrayed by subsequent Israeli governments |
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hmorehead (656 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-22-09 10:12 AM Response to Reply #15 |
54. Pollard deserves to rot and there are others locked up, too. |
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hmorehead (656 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-22-09 10:15 AM Response to Reply #15 |
55. AND Pollard and Israel betrayed the US. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-21-09 05:21 PM Response to Reply #11 |
17. That's right. Israel has nukes. n/t |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-21-09 08:18 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. So did Cuba... |
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mackerel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-21-09 10:09 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. The whole issue is moot as far as I can see. |
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Indenturedebtor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-21-09 11:18 PM Response to Reply #18 |
29. His point is that Israel is full of joos who are responsible for all evil in this world |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-21-09 11:28 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. No, History Professor, Cuba didn't have nukes. |
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Indenturedebtor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-22-09 04:22 AM Response to Reply #31 |
43. So because the nukes had "Made in the USSR" stamped on the side of them |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-22-09 05:53 AM Response to Reply #43 |
47. I'm guessing Eferrari didn't know that Cuba had them, regardless of maker. |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-22-09 02:10 PM Response to Reply #47 |
60. it was common knowledge in 1962, so "take a while to percolate" is an interesting statement |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-23-09 01:41 AM Response to Reply #60 |
72. We knew about the missiles then, and "suspected" about the warheads. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-22-09 03:04 PM Response to Reply #47 |
64. So are you claiming that the Kennedy administration was on the phone |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-23-09 01:45 AM Response to Reply #64 |
73. No, I'm pointing out that the crisis wasn't just about missiles, or a blockade. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-21-09 11:39 PM Response to Reply #18 |
32. No, Cuba didn't have nukes. Next? |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-22-09 05:50 AM Response to Reply #32 |
45. I think you might have missed the papers that came out in the last ten years. |
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Indenturedebtor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-21-09 11:17 PM Response to Reply #17 |
28. Yeah Israel is threatening us with nukes. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-21-09 11:22 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. Isn't that charge important enough to you to respect at bottom what it means? |
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Indenturedebtor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-22-09 04:19 AM Response to Reply #30 |
42. Only because this board is full of it n/t |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-22-09 12:03 PM Response to Reply #42 |
58. and that's a lie |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-22-09 02:47 PM Response to Reply #42 |
62. That's a pretty thin excuse for tossing around such an accusation. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-22-09 11:07 AM Response to Reply #9 |
56. why do certain DUers consistently make shit up to fit their rigid and intellectually |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-22-09 02:14 PM Response to Reply #56 |
61. there's a lot of ...creativity...in this thread is all i can say, cali |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-22-09 03:02 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. Cuba never had command and control over nuclear weapons |
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Mudoria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-22-09 04:05 AM Response to Original message |
41. Life in prison seems appropriate |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-22-09 02:03 PM Response to Reply #41 |
59. the wife is getting the same, check her age, then check out health care in prison |
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unkachuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-22-09 10:09 PM Response to Original message |
71. "...spying for Cuba for nearly three decades." |
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