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FatSlob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 12:47 PM
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American Citizen Charged With Spying (for Iraq)
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=519&ncid=519&e=1&u=/ap/20040311/ap_on_re_us/iraq_spy_case_2

A google search shows that a woman by the same name was might have been the Spokesperson for Senator Moseley-Braun, however a person with the same name is also a Backgammon Champion, and a person with the same name also testified about the Lockerbie bombings, and was a congressional staffer. Too many people with the same name out there.
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 12:48 PM
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1. the Scarboroughs, Hannitys, and Coulters are gonna love this one
expect it to get plenty of play on FOX
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FatSlob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 12:49 PM
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2. We'll find out.
Edited on Thu Mar-11-04 12:50 PM by FatSlob
It will be interesting to see how it plays.

edit: Who is Scarborough?
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 12:51 PM
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5. old Squinty McSquintalots on MSNBC
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wuushew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 12:54 PM
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6. He was a former Congressman who killed his intern
but because he was a Republican he got his own talkshow while Gary Condit got political oblivion.
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FatSlob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 12:55 PM
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7. Seriously?
I've got to Google that. I'm out for a while...I have a meet with a client in 20 mins. I'll check back afterwards.
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Scairp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 01:25 PM
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10. Actually, she was an aide
Edited on Thu Mar-11-04 01:34 PM by Scairp
She was found dead in his Fort Walton Beach congressional office. She was not an intern. Her death is a huge cover-up, and involved the local coroner's office as well as, it would seem, the woman's own family. All very strange and never properly investigated.

Here's an article about it dated less than a year ago.

http://www.americanpolitics.com/20030721Baker.html

This is a good one too.

http://www.americanpolitics.com/20010808Klausutis.html
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phillybri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 12:50 PM
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3. There's a big league pitcher named Brian Anderson, but guess what?
It ain't me!!!
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FatSlob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 12:51 PM
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4. Bet you wish it was...
You'd be rich.
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mistertrickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 01:08 PM
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8. This whole thing sounds kinda bogus to me--she met with Iraqi
officials and then lobbied for them.

***NEWS FLASH*** that's what Rummy did (remember the famous handshake), and Bob Dole right before the Gulf War I, and CEO of Halliburton, Dick Cheney.

So I'm sure they'll come up on spying charges too, very soon--NOT!
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cspiguy Donating Member (679 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 01:20 PM
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9. Associate Press already confirmed it was CMB's press secretary.
n/t
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FatSlob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 02:29 PM
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11. This could be trouble.
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 02:50 PM
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12. MSNBC reporting woman not charged with spying, but "failure to register"
with a foriegn gov as a representative....apparently woman is claiming to br Andy Card's second cousin and had approached him wanting to be a go between (US/Iraq)....
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FatSlob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 03:09 PM
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13. Interesting...
Time to check the news sources.
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 05:25 PM
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21. CNN Now reporting she is Andy Card's second cousin...
:tinfoilhat:
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Ruby Romaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 03:10 PM
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14. Was Laili Helms ever charged w/any crime?
http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0124/ridgeway.phpRichard Helms’s Afghani Niece Leads Corps of Taliban Reps

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CaptainClark23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 03:16 PM
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15. RESEARCHER ALERT
Someone please check the name of the accused, Susan Lindauer.

Cross reference: Lockerbie trial deposition by a woman of the same name who claimed to have been approached by cia asset who claimed bombers were syria-based, not libya.

She was muzzled, harrassed, life endangered, etc.

I cannot recall details and cannot research today.

Is this the same Susan Lindauer?

go to it, researchers, I'll dig later tonight.
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 03:25 PM
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16. here's a Yahoo news story regarding
Lindhauer.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=519&e=15&u=/ap/iraq_spy_case

Lindauer worked at Fortune, U.S. News & World Report and the Seattle Post- Intelligencer before beginning her career as a political publicist.

She worked for Rep. Peter DeFazio, D-Ore. in 1993 and then Rep. Ron Wyden, D-Ore., in 1994 before joining the office of former Illinois Sen. Carol Moseley Braun (news - web sites) as press secretary in 1996. From March to May 2002, she worked for Rep. Zoe Lofgren, D-Calif.

"Her position was eliminated in the downsizing following the 1994 elections," said Josh Kardon, chief of staff for now-Sen. Wyden. "She worked for us a short period of time."

Braun's current spokesperson, Loretta Kane, said the former senator does not remember Lindauer.

According to an indictment filed in U.S. District Court in Manhattan, Lindauer made multiple visits from October 1999 through March 2002 to the Iraqi Mission to the United Nations (news - web sites) in Manhattan. The indictment makes no mention of her congressional staff work.

There, she met with several members of the Iraqi Intelligence Service, the foreign intelligence arm of the government of Iraq that allegedly has played a role in terrorist operations, including an attempted assassination of former President George H.W. Bush, the indictment alleged.

The government said she accepted payments from the Iraqis for her services and expenses amounting to a total of $10,000, including $5,000 she received during a trip to Baghdad in February and March 2002.

Her acceptance of the money and her willingness to bring it home from Iraq violated a law prohibiting transactions with a government that sponsors international terrorism, the government said. The indictment did not specify a motive.

The charges against Lindauer were included in an expanded indictment in the case against Raed Rokan Al-Anbuge, 28, and Wisam Noman Al- Anbuke, the sons of Iraq's former liaison with United Nations weapons inspectors.
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CaptainClark23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 04:10 PM
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18. See GD thread for more
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FatSlob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 03:35 PM
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17. Seems to be the same person
Edited on Thu Mar-11-04 03:36 PM by FatSlob
Both from same suburb of D.C.
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WheresWaldo Donating Member (272 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 04:16 PM
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19. heres the thread from earlier this morning
Edited on Thu Mar-11-04 04:17 PM by WheresWaldo
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FatSlob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 04:23 PM
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20. "I'm an anti-war protestor! "
"I'm an anti-war protestor! I've done more to try and stop this war than anybody else!"

I hear from a usually reliable friend that she yelled that. He says he saw it on a news program...don't think he said which one. I'm sure we'll find out.

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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 05:25 PM
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22. Just now on CNN...
CNN also reporting she is Andy Card's 2nd cousin!
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demdave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 05:32 PM
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23. I've done more to try and stop this war than anybody else!
My,how modest can you get.

"The indictment said she met on two occasions in Baltimore in June and July with an undercover FBI agent who posed as a Libyan intelligence representative who was seeking to support resistance groups in postwar Iraq. It said she discussed the need for plans and foreign resources to support these groups.

According to the indictment, she continued to correspond with the undercover agent until last month and followed the agent's instructions to leave packages on two occasions in August in "dead drop" operations."

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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 07:02 PM
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24. More

Susan Lindauer ... whose father was once the Republican nominee in the Alaskan gubernatorial race ...
The charges ... were included in an expanded indictment ... against Raed Rokan Al-Anbuke and Wisam Noman Al-Anbuke, the sons of Iraq's former liaison with U.N. weapons inspectors.

http://www.boston.com/dailynews/071/region/U_S_citizen_an_ex_congressiona:.shtml

<snip>
A former Herald editorial writer was arrested today ...
<snip>
The December 1998 issue of the Middle East Intelligence Bulletin, a monthly online publication on Middle Eastern issues, quoted Lindauer as saying that because of her advocacy in the Lockerbie case, she had been subject to intense surveillance, threats and assassination attempts. "Someone put acid on the steering wheel of my car on a day I was supposed to drive to for a meeting at the Libya House," the publication quoted Lindauer as saying. "I scrubbed my hands with a toilet brush, but my face was burned so badly that 3 weeks later friends worried I might be badly scarred. Also, my house was bugged with listening devices and cameras - little red laser lights in the shower vent. And I survived several assassination attempts...."
<snip>
"I worked to get weapons inspectors back to Iraq when everyone else said it was impossible."
Lou Wein, The Herald's editorial editor at the time, described Lindauer as "brilliant" but also "erratic" and subject to mood swings. But he was surprised when he heard the charges. "I find it hard to believe that she'd go beyond legitimate political activity," Wein said. "Civil disobedience? Protests? Yeah, that I could see. But this is tantamount to betraying her country."
http://www.heraldnet.com/Stories/04/3/11/17874095.cfm

<snip>
Malvina Lacey, Lindauer's next-door neighbor, said, “She lives in a fantasy world.”
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/4506229/

Fox News whooping it up:
"Should US Traitors be Executed?"
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,113982,00.html

Her name is on this "peace-pledge" list
http://www.scn.org/wwfor/peacepledgers-loc.html

So there's some context. I don't really know anything about Middle East Intelligence Bulletin or their credibility as a source.

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