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clear eye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-17-09 08:01 PM
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Democrats promise jobs bill
Source: AP on Google News

By ANDREW TAYLOR (AP) – 29 minutes ago

WASHINGTON — House Democrats are looking at swelling deficits further, at least temporarily, on a jobs-producing bill in response to double-digit unemployment and a sense within their ranks that the party needs to do more to put people back to work.

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"I wouldn't characterize it as a second stimulus," House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer said Tuesday. "I don't want to be as broad as that, I want it to be very targeted on jobs."

House Democrats debated ways to address job creation at a caucus meeting Monday night, and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., has promised colleagues the chamber would take up a jobs measure after it completes its health care overhaul bill. That makes it unlikely to pass into law this year.


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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-17-09 08:06 PM
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1. They better.
Big Ed has been all over this and he's right. If we don't being in new jobs, the Dems are toast.
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pipoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-17-09 08:25 PM
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2. Hey, I have a f__king brilliant idea...
lets send more of those US jobs to other countries as f__king fast as we can...how can we do just that??? I've got it!!! A Pacific Rim Free Trade Agreement!!
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-17-09 09:02 PM
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6. yup! what a great job creater....
hmmm let`s see...it made me find another job in the late 70`s , then in the late 80`s! , mid 90`s! see it created 3 jobs ! course i could have retired from the first two with a pension(google) ya the good old days.

now there is no pretense--it`s official! we have been sold out by our own party...again!

USA! USA! USA!
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 03:39 PM
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14. trade agreements don't have to screw all but the rich.
just sayin'. it's all in who writes them how. we can just as easily screw them if that's what we really wanted to.
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pipoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 09:42 PM
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16. Bottom line is that I don't believe
US workers should be in competition with 3rd world countries with absolutely no labor laws, minimum incomes, or benefits. We have worked hard to build our economy and now we are being sold out by our own party. As someone else said, we cannot maintain a decent standard of living giving each other haircuts.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-17-09 08:25 PM
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3. Cut state and local governments out of the loop
They will just play political games with the money.
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riskpeace Donating Member (382 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 12:47 PM
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12. I totally agree
Do it through tax credits to encourage job creation. Passing the stimulus through those established funding streams and then having very little supplantation language really let state budget officials do whatever they wanted with large blocks of the stimulus money. It probably kept teachers and state employees in a job but did nothing to create a new job. And the states are all still facing huge holes in their budgets anyway that have to be balanced.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-17-09 08:34 PM
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4. GOOD n/t
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-17-09 09:00 PM
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5. It wouldn't be a second stimulus.
It would be the third stimulus for this recession.

There was one in spring '08 to rev up the economy, something like $200 billion. The recession began in 12/07, so it was for this recession.
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creeksneakers2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-17-09 09:22 PM
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7. They don't have the money
Another big spending bill will wipe out the Dems in 2010.
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FVZA_Colonel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-17-09 10:06 PM
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9. So will a lack of jobs
I understand what you're saying, but at this point it seems like one of those good-ol' "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situations (pardon the cliche.)
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Iowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 02:27 AM
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11. They have the money...
They just prefer to throw it down a rat-hole fighting two wars-about-nothing and bailing out bankers. These turds don't work for us - they work for the corps. They deserve to be wiped out in 2010.
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unkachuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-17-09 09:32 PM
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8. hey steny....
....I hear the wall street casinos and the banking parlors are doing fine....everyone else, not so much....better do something steny, november 2010 is closer than you think....
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The Northerner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-17-09 10:59 PM
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10. Other solutions?
Edited on Tue Nov-17-09 11:01 PM by The Northerner
How about bringing the troops home, ending the military-industrial complex, passing HCR, and retaking the money from banksters and returning it to the people?

With those considerations in mind, we won't need another stimulus.
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excess_3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 01:08 PM
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13. jobs, but not for Americans
more war
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tonysam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 03:43 PM
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15. And fix the EUI glitch as well
I am referring to the fact millions of unemployed whose benefits exhaust in January or later will not be eligible for the legislation just passed by Congress and signed by the president.
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