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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:01 AM
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Breaking News: Obama wins 2009 Nobel Peace Prize
Edited on Fri Oct-09-09 04:20 AM by maddezmom
Source: BBC

~snip~

The Nobel Committee said he was awarded it for "his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and co-operation between peoples".

The committee highlighted Mr Obama's efforts to strengthen international bodies and promote nuclear disarmament.

~snip~

"Only very rarely has a person to the same extent as Obama captured the world's attention and given its people hope for a better future," the Norwegian committee said as the prize was announced.

"His diplomacy is founded in the concept that those who are to lead the world must do so on the basis of values and attitudes that are shared by the majority of the world's population."



Read more: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8298580.stm
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WillParkinson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:02 AM
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1. Congratulations to him!
n/t
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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 08:45 AM
Response to Reply #1
335. Agreed. He has earned it.
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BREMPRO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 11:27 AM
Response to Reply #335
482. He's changed the tone in the world. One man, The youth who used to wear Osama shirts, are now
Edited on Fri Oct-09-09 11:31 AM by BREMPRO
wearing Obama shirts. He's working WITH allies, instead of against them. Can't underestimate the transformation use of soft power, and how that has changed in the world. Obama humbly said he didn't feel he deserved it and certainly didn't lobby for it. I believe this is partly for his accomplishments toward peace (change of world tone from Bush, return of vigorous diplomacy,use of soft power instead of brute force, brilliant political play of Iran, nuclear disarmament proposals, efforts toward reducing global warming etc..) and partly acknowledgment of his future promise. Oslo is playing there own cards, painting him as a peacemaker, makes it harder for him to escalate conflicts and instead seek peaceful solutions. Some have complained about the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Remind you all that he didn't start these wars, he's trying to wind them down responsibly.
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Roshea1956 Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 01:44 PM
Response to Reply #1
527. Silly Rabbit!
so what does evolution have to do with winning the Pulitzer Prize?
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 02:07 PM
Response to Reply #1
539. awesome. I love how he found out from his daughter.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:02 AM
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2. On BBC front page too; and now link:
Edited on Fri Oct-09-09 04:03 AM by muriel_volestrangler
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:20 AM
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41. for "his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy
Only very rarely has a person to the same extent as Obama captured the world's attention and given its people hope for a better future," the Norwegian committee said as the prize was announced.

"His diplomacy is founded in the concept that those who are to lead the world must do so on the basis of values and attitudes that are shared by the majority of the world's population."


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8298580.stm
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 05:54 AM
Response to Reply #41
155. VIDEO Of Announcement Here:
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BluDemocratGirl Donating Member (262 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 03:10 AM
Response to Reply #155
591. Congrats to Prez #44! He deserves it no matter what the right-chickenwingers say!
I didn't even know that President Obama was nominated for the award.
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BREMPRO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 11:57 AM
Response to Reply #41
490. Full press release from Nobel Committee
http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/laureates/2009...

"The Nobel Peace Prize for 2009

The Norwegian Nobel Committee has decided that the Nobel Peace Prize for 2009 is to be awarded to President Barack Obama for his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples. The Committee has attached special importance to Obama's vision of and work for a world without nuclear weapons.

Obama has as President created a new climate in international politics. Multilateral diplomacy has regained a central position, with emphasis on the role that the United Nations and other international institutions can play. Dialogue and negotiations are preferred as instruments for resolving even the most difficult international conflicts. The vision of a world free from nuclear arms has powerfully stimulated disarmament and arms control negotiations. Thanks to Obama's initiative, the USA is now playing a more constructive role in meeting the great climatic challenges the world is confronting. Democracy and human rights are to be strengthened.

Only very rarely has a person to the same extent as Obama captured the world's attention and given its people hope for a better future. His diplomacy is founded in the concept that those who are to lead the world must do so on the basis of values and attitudes that are shared by the majority of the world's population.

For 108 years, the Norwegian Nobel Committee has sought to stimulate precisely that international policy and those attitudes for which Obama is now the world's leading spokesman. The Committee endorses Obama's appeal that "Now is the time for all of us to take our share of responsibility for a global response to global challenges."

Oslo, October 9, 2009 "
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lamp_shade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:04 AM
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3. Rec'd (BTW, the "unrec fairy" is up early this AM).
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 07:20 AM
Response to Reply #3
239. Who would unrec THIS?
n/t.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 07:23 AM
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244. Deleted message
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 07:31 AM
Response to Reply #244
251. No progressives on DU have complained about the award.
You're stirring dookie for no reason here. We're ALL happy he won the Prize.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 07:44 AM
Response to Reply #251
263. No, we're not
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 07:46 AM
Response to Reply #263
266. It is possible to be happy about the Prize and still be critical about what should be criticized.
n/t.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 07:47 AM
Response to Reply #266
269. No, logically there really isn't any way for me to do that sorry.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 07:49 AM
Response to Reply #269
271. I respect the strength of conviction you're showing, but I gotta say
You're not gonna be real popular on this forum today.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 10:38 AM
Response to Reply #271
443. In my world. My convictions are all I have left.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 10:44 AM
Response to Reply #443
447. In your case this means you have absolutely nothing.
Convictions on a keyboard are as solid as the next cup of coffee.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 10:49 AM
Response to Reply #447
451. Except yours though right?
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 10:57 AM
Response to Reply #451
457. Nope. I'm a hypocrite just like everyone else.
I just don't delude myself into thinking otherwise.

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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 11:06 AM
Response to Reply #457
464. Personal convictions are real
Edited on Fri Oct-09-09 11:06 AM by shadowknows69
How are they any less real if you share them on a forum? I thought that was the point. Exchanging values and ideas.
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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 11:29 AM
Response to Reply #464
483. I am with you. The whole week the majority of DU has been upset over Obama's Afghan policies

And, now, he gets a award, he is a peacemaker.

No. He is not.

And, congratulations on your convictions. If only more would hold to them.
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Deadpan Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 01:24 PM
Response to Reply #483
523. Find me someone who within the last eyar is more deserving of this award.
Edited on Fri Oct-09-09 01:25 PM by Deadpan
And then come to me and argue. Arguing "NO HE DOESN'T" is pointless unless you think someone else should have gotten it.

So. Instead of Obama, who has changed the geopolitical climate so much for the better? Who has completely changed the way we see the world?

Obama changed America, and by doing so he changed the world. This might seem egocentric, but it's true. America's international face has been changed from rampant imperial overlord to peacemaker and international diplomat. Sure, we have some things to figure out in Afghanistan and Iraq. We never promised that those would be instant fixes. But letting the Taliban win in Afghanistan isn't exact "peaceful" either is it. Just saying.

Furthermore, this election gave hope to people; not only America, but everyone. The world still looks up to America, as much as they might hate it and as much as it might offend their national pride, we still are one of the great powers in the world today. Blab on about China and India, but Europe and much of the world still looks to us for support. With the change in regime, and the new message of hope that Obama represents, we have changed the way people feel about the world as a whole. If a country that could sink to such depth in the Bush era could turn around and fight back with hope, what does that mean to the rest of the world?

Also, Obama led a unanimous security council vote that was the first step towards worldwide nuclear disarmament. Are you saying that's not advocating peace?

tl;dr version: You're stupid, come back to me with a real argument instead of screaming bloody murder about things Obama can't really control.
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GMA Donating Member (467 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 05:27 PM
Response to Reply #523
562. Look towards the end of the posts here...
and you'll find some of those who were nominated.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 08:30 AM
Response to Reply #269
322. As a freshman Senator, he was already working on limiting nukes. That is part of
the reason for the award. So, IMO, is what he has inspired people to do--and what the Committee wants to inspire him to do in the future.

Have you read the statement of the Committee? If not, it is reproduced in my Reply # 319 on this thread.

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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 08:51 AM
Response to Reply #322
343. I did hear that they were considering him even before the election...
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backtomn Donating Member (424 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 09:56 PM
Response to Reply #343
583. You may be right
I believe that the nominations had to be in by February. The committee may have considered things that happened later in the year, but the nominator might have jumped the gun a bit. : )
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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 11:26 AM
Response to Reply #263
481. No, we are not. The war atrocities in Afghanistan is not peace making

Extending unethical and immoral Bush war policies....Keeping contracts with Blackwater....

This is not Nobel Peace Prize worthy.

It simply isn't.

Flame away. If you think keeping the war machine operating in Afghanistan with a 60/40 percent mercenary to troop ration is a peace, you have a place in a Orwell novel.

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kenfrequed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 01:12 PM
Response to Reply #263
517. I am a progressive
I argue with the blue dogs here constantly. Most of the progressives here are able to articulate a thought in more words than what you find on a fortune in a fortune cooke.

You seem to trade in, at best, five word snippets. If you are a real progressive you should probably take your time and organize your thoughts. I have serious doubts as to whether you really are a progressive.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 09:03 AM
Response to Reply #251
349. Of course they haven't.
They just unrecommend it.
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spiritual_gunfighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 01:58 PM
Response to Reply #251
533. No we arent+1
Granted he has done much to improve relations with the Muslim world, with Russia and negotiating with Iran. But only when he ends the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq will I think he deserves the Nobel Peace Prize.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 07:44 AM
Response to Reply #244
261. Really.
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Piewhacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 10:06 AM
Response to Reply #261
413. hmm.. not criticizing, but curious...
it seems the principle reason for getting the prize is
leadership toward nuclear disarmament.

I'm not saying I agree with everything Obama has done (not done),
I'm actually very pissed and working my way to saying some
pretty harsh things about him. But if this is the reason for the
prize, that and attempts to heal the rift between muslims and
christians left by the evangelofascist neo-cons, then even if
you don't think these merit a Nobel peace prize, do you
dispute these are positive things to have done?

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AllyCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 10:10 AM
Response to Reply #413
417. Thanks for that. I, like the poster too which you respond, have concerns that he has escalated war
but if this is the general reason for the award, then Obama has met that goal. Living here, I sometimes don't even think we liberals know how BAD the rest of the world worried about what Dim Son did to the planet. To them, Obama must be moving the earth.

I'd like him to end these bloody wars we have going and it seems that he is increasing the effort. However, I'd like to commend him for this. Onward and forward!
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 08:13 AM
Response to Reply #244
299. BULLSHIT. The right is the right, whether it is Republican or allegedly Democratic.
Edited on Fri Oct-09-09 08:16 AM by No Elephants
As just one example, FREEPers hate progressives a lot more than they hate Blue Dogs, so you have just shown your kinship with them.
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AllyCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 09:09 AM
Response to Reply #244
352. Just like you aren't much different from the Blue Cross Dems?
We progressives are rec'ing this in spades even if we don't cheerlead everything he's done.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 09:31 AM
Response to Reply #352
376. But if you don't cheerlead everything he's done, you are worse than Hitler.
That seems to be the position of the Twirly Eyed True Believers.
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 09:59 AM
Response to Reply #352
405. My Sentiments EXACTLY... Said So Down Post! As A Liberal I Feel This
is no time to flame the fire! Good For America, and even a better SMACK DOWN for Repukes!!

They MUST be devastated, poor things! Even on C-Span this AM you could almost "touch" their venom and anger!

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 09:28 AM
Response to Reply #244
374. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 07:43 AM
Response to Reply #239
259. I will and am. He doesn't deserve it. We're still killing innocents in two countries.
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AusDem Donating Member (219 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 08:03 AM
Response to Reply #259
284. agree completely
perhaps compared to George Bush he's probably a peace prize winner, he really doesn't deserve it as yet. Until the wars end, what the is the point? I think it reduces the value of the prize, and he hasn't actually achieved anything as yet.

Sorry, I think Obama is great, but this is a stupid move on the part of the committee.

AD
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dana_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 09:58 AM
Response to Reply #284
404. +1
I was shocked (as was Obama himself, evidently). Yes he's WORKING on getting people talking, reducing troops etc. but we're still there and may increase the war in Afghanistan. Doesn't sound too peaceful to me!
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 10:37 AM
Response to Reply #404
442. Wouldn't It Be NICE If This MIGHT Make Some In D.C. Take A Second
look about the current WARS??? But having heard Obama making his comments a few minutes ago, it seems the "path" HAS NOT been halted!

What a WISH I would have to come true! I just don't see HOW we can win any War in the Middle East... too many have tried and failed, and Afghanistan, Pakistan is treacherous going!!! Not to mention "unfinished bidness" in Iraq!!!
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tonysam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 11:12 AM
Response to Reply #284
468. +1000 n/t
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marshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 08:14 AM
Response to Reply #259
301. I think this is more of a way to ensure his future actions
It's like the anti-McChrystal. We'll just have to stay tuned to see who is calling the shots (no pun intended).
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 09:01 AM
Response to Reply #259
346. You see unrec'ing a thread as a vote on the real life event described in the thread?
I always thought recommending a thread was about whether or not the thread should be read by other DUers, either because the topic was important or because the posts on the thread were worth reading.

I sure don't think clicking a button on a DU thread is a vote on whether Obama should get the Nobel Peace Prize or not.
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 09:11 AM
Response to Reply #259
356. Apparently, the Nobel Committee thinks he does. No one believes
President Obama, or anyone else for that matter, could undue eight years of Bush* wars in less than a year. No one with any sense and/or credibility does. What is it about the Committee's reasons did you not understand.
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Holy Moly Donating Member (86 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 09:20 AM
Response to Reply #259
366. Give Obama the Piece Prize
Edited on Fri Oct-09-09 09:23 AM by Holy Moly
For sooth
No damn amurikan president deserves a peace prize,
a piece prize mebbe but not a peace prize.
For the primary job of any amurikan president is
to offensively, aggressively, and immorally defend
and expand the amurikan empire to further the
enrichment of the insatiable amurikan ruling class at
the expense of all others, foreign and domestic.
Obama is still waging foreign war on Iraq, AfPak, Palestinians, Honduras, etc, and soon Iran. On the
domestic war front he wages his softer, rhetoric
masked, reagan class war on the despised working class
on behalf of the bankster class.
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onlyadream Donating Member (821 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 09:27 AM
Response to Reply #259
373. This is premature
he's just getting started and this is going to put wood on the GOP fire. It just doesn't look good.
I LOVE Obama and WANT him soooo badly to be successfu.
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 09:55 AM
Response to Reply #373
399. Hate to say it, but I agree with you.
Edited on Fri Oct-09-09 09:55 AM by Crunchy Frog
I really, really hope he lives up to it.
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DerekJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 09:31 AM
Response to Reply #259
377. +1. n/t
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angrychair Donating Member (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 11:01 PM
Response to Reply #259
586. Look, your upset
I get it. I bet your a blast at the party aren't you? What does he have to do to impress you? Walk on water? Then turn it into wine? Lead to gold? Really. Your argument about the wars in afghan and Iraq are a red herring. Even if he pulled every person out tomorrow, it would just be something else. Just be happy that our president achieved an amazing honor today or just say nothing at all.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 08:12 AM
Response to Reply #239
296. People who do not even post here can access the rec and unrec features.
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 08:47 AM
Response to Reply #296
337. Most likely lurking freeper types
I am sure this has ruined the day over at FOX news

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lakercub Donating Member (509 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 10:04 AM
Response to Reply #337
410. I doubt it
People like Hannity, O'Reilly, and Beck loved to get all lathered up about perceived injustices...they will be on this non-stop for weeks.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 09:20 AM
Response to Reply #239
365. Maybe someone who accidently clicked the wrong one?
It use to be back when we only had rec that we had to click again to verify. Don't have the verify now. :(
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 09:57 PM
Response to Reply #239
584. David Sirota would.
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 08:15 AM
Response to Reply #3
302. Some people here think Obama doesn't deserve praise for anything. nt
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 08:21 AM
Response to Reply #302
313. And some people here sound more like 12 year old fans of a celebrity
Edited on Fri Oct-09-09 08:23 AM by No Elephants
than members of an analytical, intelligent electorate, while others post on issues and actions, rather than either fawning or carping ALL the damned time about everything.

And some of those unfailingly uncritical fans post flat out lies about those who are not unfailingly uncritical fans.
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PurpleChez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 11:00 AM
Response to Reply #313
460. Couldn't have said it better
I don't tune in to DU nearly as much as I used to because of the childishness of so many posters. My defining moment came when I started a general discussion post explaining that I'd been a huge Beatles fan all my life but wasn't comfortable seeing that Lennon was being treated more and more like a holy figure on the level of Ghandi. I was accused of desecrating Lennon's memory and insulting his fans, folks demanded that I withdraw the original post. On and on. It was EXACTLY as you say--sounded like pre-teen Jonas Brothers fans fighting over which brother was cuter.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 08:17 AM
Response to Reply #3
307. There's no sleeping under the troll bridge
because they work out of a sweat chop on the other side of the world :rofl: for a dollar a day
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 07:57 PM
Response to Reply #3
575. Whining about a thread with 555 recs?
People are getting more and more ridiculous about this!
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Countdown_3_2_1 Donating Member (778 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:05 AM
Response to Original message
4. Congrads, but for what?
Forgive me, but I've been away from the news for a few days...What did the President win for?
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:08 AM
Response to Reply #4
9. You've been "away" for more than a few days
:rofl:
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:09 AM
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11. For 'extraordinary diplomatic work'
is what the caption on TV says. He cancelled the missile shield in Poland and the Czech Repulbic, which improved relations with Russia a lot; the guy making the announement says he has strengthened the UN a lot.

The one sentence summary the Nobel prize site gives is:

"for his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples"

http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/laureates/2009...
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Countdown_3_2_1 Donating Member (778 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:12 AM
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19. Just saw that, thank you! (nt)
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moodforaday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 07:46 AM
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267. A slight correction
Obama canceled the original plans for the missile shield, yes. He has also put in motion another plan, to deploy mobile missile batteries in Central Europe - not unlike the non-existent mobile platforms that Saddam was supposed to have. My Polish goverment is of course all esctatic about that.

(The link is to Iranian presstv, but they're just quoting Gazeta Wyborcza, Poland's major newspaper: http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=107070§ionid=3... )

But I guess war is officially peace now.
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katkat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 07:56 AM
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276. re "a slight correction"
Yeah, I noticed that.
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dana_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 10:20 AM
Response to Reply #267
431. shhhh...
you're not supposed to mention that stuff today. Lets brush that under the rug 'kay?
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 10:20 AM
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432. Well, 2 weeks after that article, the Russian are positive about Obama's plans
New US ABM plan not a threat to Russia – FM

“The project cancelled by President Obama’s administration – the missile shield bases in Eastern Europe – was definitely creating risks for Russia’s security. The new project, which replaces it, creates good conditions for dialogue. Our initial evaluation shows it isn’t creating risks for us,” Lavrov said.

He also added that, these days, the Russian side has planned to hold consultations with American partners in order to “better understand the configuration of the mobile US ABM system, which is aimed at neutralising threats.”

Dmitry Polikanov, a political analyst from the Russian public opinion research center, told RT that the new US missile defense project has a major difference.

“The Patriot missile systems are designed for the interception of short- and medium-range missiles, so they are more a tactical, than strategic weapons. The major Russian concern with the missile defence project was that it could be a threat to the Russian strategic nuclear arsenal. However, the deployment of Patriots will not create a security challenge for the Russian strategic forces,” Polikanov said.

http://www.russiatoday.com/Politics/2009-10-07/us-abm-r...


So I'd say the decision did do a lot to promite peace in international relations.
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csziggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:11 AM
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15. For "extraordinary efforts at peace between peoples" if I heard the CNN announcement correctly
Here: The Nobel Committee said he was awarded it for "his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and co-operation between peoples". - http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8298580.stm
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:53 AM
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94. Diplomacy and "no nukes," which he worked on, even as a Senator.
Edited on Fri Oct-09-09 04:54 AM by No Elephants
"OSLO President Barack Obama won the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize on Friday for his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples, the Norwegian Nobel Committee said, citing his outreach to the Muslim world and attempts to curb nuclear proliferation.


<snip>

Only very rarely has a person to the same extent as Obama captured the worlds attention and given its people hope for a better future, the committee said. His diplomacy is founded in the concept that those who are to lead the world must do so on the basis of values and attitudes that are shared by the majority of the worlds population.

The committee said it attached special importance to Obamas vision of, and work for, a world without nuclear weapons.

Obama has as president created a new climate in international politics. Multilateral diplomacy has regained a central position, with emphasis on the role that the United Nations and other international institutions can play, the committee said."

<snip>

Obama has as president created a new climate in international politics. Multilateral diplomacy has regained a central position, with emphasis on the role that the United Nations and other international institutions can play, the committee said.

http://blog.taragana.com/n/president-barack-obama-wins-... /

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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 10:11 AM
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418. True, in a short time he dug us out of a whole Bush had put us in
He deserves credit for that. It could still be as bad as it was or closer to it. This is something the average American does not appreciate, not just the ones still sending emails around bashing the French for not wanting to go to Iraq.

Bush said Bring in On and had us go it alone and act like bullies. That made an impression and turning that around in 9 months does deserve praise.

Let alone that it could be based on what he did as a Senator. Some posts act like the Presidency is all that counts. Nonpresidents can win it.
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geckosfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 05:49 AM
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149. Snicker.
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 05:54 AM
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154. according to the committee,
Asked why the prize had been awarded to Mr Obama less than a year after he took office, Nobel Committee head Thorbjoern Jagland said: "It was because we would like to support what he is trying to achieve".

"It is a clear signal that we want to advocate the same as he has done," he said.
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colinmom71 Donating Member (616 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 06:59 AM
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215. For NOT being George W. Bush.... (nt)
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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 08:32 AM
Response to Reply #215
323. Funny, that's exactly what the talking heads on Fox Nooze were saying
a few minutes ago. Funny!
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 08:47 AM
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339. For the reasons stated by the Committee Please see Reply ##s 319 and 154.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 09:45 AM
Response to Reply #215
389. Because the contrast to the previous regime is so stark.
A blue ball in a sea of blue balls of various shades wouldn't be noticed, but put it next to a red ball and it's easy to identify.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 07:01 AM
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217. Not being Bush.
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caseymoz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 11:22 AM
Response to Reply #217
477. Also the "not being McCain or Palin award."

However, I think Obama's speeches are really paid attention to internationally.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 07:10 AM
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226. The Not George W. Bush Award. nt
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 07:11 AM
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227. How about for kicking a little republiCON ass...
is that good enough for you? Even though he has done more than that.
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dhpgetsit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 07:50 AM
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274. I'm baffled.
Remember when he mediated a dispute between France and China? I think that shows how he CAN be that kind of leader. But he hasn't been like Carter, bringing Begin and Sadat to an agreement at Camp David.

I believe he can be deserving of the Peace Prize, but he hasn't earned it yet. I don't think you earn it just by being the one who gets elected after a warmonger who had no respect for diplomacy.
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GMA Donating Member (467 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 12:29 PM
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502. Smile--it's Friday...
Post on another blog: "Fetus wins Nobel Peace prize. Experts see excellent potential based on genetic testing. 'Although the fetus has yet to actually take a breath, the results of our DNA analysis says that, once born, the child will have the capability of speech and is likely to wish for world peace' said researchers about the 20 month old fetus."

Great intentions aren't the same as great accomplishments. I wish they'd waited a while to see what he can actually do.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 08:26 AM
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319. Statement of the Nobel Committee--
"Announcement
The Norwegian Nobel Committee



The Nobel Peace Prize for 2009


The Norwegian Nobel Committee has decided that the Nobel Peace Prize for 2009 is to be awarded to President Barack Obama for his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples. The Committee has attached special importance to Obama's vision of and work for a world without nuclear weapons.

Obama has as President created a new climate in international politics. Multilateral diplomacy has regained a central position, with emphasis on the role that the United Nations and other international institutions can play. Dialogue and negotiations are preferred as instruments for resolving even the most difficult international conflicts. The vision of a world free from nuclear arms has powerfully stimulated disarmament and arms control negotiations. Thanks to Obama's initiative, the USA is now playing a more constructive role in meeting the great climatic challenges the world is confronting. Democracy and human rights are to be strengthened.

Only very rarely has a person to the same extent as Obama captured the world's attention and given its people hope for a better future. His diplomacy is founded in the concept that those who are to lead the world must do so on the basis of values and attitudes that are shared by the majority of the world's population.

For 108 years, the Norwegian Nobel Committee has sought to stimulate precisely that international policy and those attitudes for which Obama is now the world's leading spokesman. The Committee endorses Obama's appeal that "Now is the time for all of us to take our share of responsibility for a global response to global challenges."

Oslo, October 9, 2009"

http://nobelpeaceprize.org/en_GB/home/announce-2009 /
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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 10:31 AM
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441. thanks for posting that
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 10:12 AM
Response to Reply #4
419. Well, for one, he knows there is no "d" in "Congratulations".
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:06 AM
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5. Ha ha ha, Junior's head will explode when he hears of this.
Wonder how many GOP Presidents have won the Prize?
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:12 AM
Response to Reply #5
17. Teddy Rooseveldt in 1906
other US president to get it while serving was Woodrow Wilson.
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:16 AM
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27. Did you notice Wikipedia has already picked this up?
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:22 AM
Response to Reply #27
47. Like some of us will rush to put something on DU
there are some who like getting Wikipedia up-to-the-minute, more or less literally.
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Jim Lane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 05:45 AM
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144. Yes, and it goes well beyond the Nobel Peace Prize
Click on the Project Runway article on Wikipedia a minute or two after an episode ends and you'll know which fashion designer was eliminated that evening.
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bigbrother05 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:07 AM
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6. Banner on MSNBC also
Edited on Fri Oct-09-09 04:15 AM by bigbrother05
Guess they wanted to get out ahead this time around. Don't want to risk missing the boat like they did with Carter.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:07 AM
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7. Just heard it on MSNBC
My first thought was wingnut heads exploding. I know, not a very peaceful thought.
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arcos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:08 AM
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8. hummm.... what for?
Seriously... I like Obama and all... but what for?
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lamp_shade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:10 AM
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12. Keywords: "NOBEL PEACE PRIZE"
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arcos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:14 AM
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22. Keywords: WHAT FOR?
Not being George W. Bush? Being a Democrat in the Presidency?

Sorry, that shouldn't be enough to win a Nobel Peace Prize.
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johnfunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:17 AM
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32. "[F]or extraordinary diplomatic efforts to promote peace"
Next question...
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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:19 AM
Original message
Such as?
I think that's a legitimate question. Honestly, I'm just scratching my head right now.
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BumRushDaShow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:41 AM
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75. Were you asleep the past year?
Did you miss the fact that he has people talking directly to Iran, where Shrub and Darth wanted to bombbombbomb bombbomb Iran?

Or that he is pushing for a change in tenor towards Cuba?

If anything, his campaign swing took him across Europe and his Presidency across Asia, Africa, and South America. More people showed up to hear him in Germany during the campaign than came to his campaign speeches here in the U.S.!
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pokercat999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 06:36 AM
Response to Reply #75
190. Have you been asleep for the last nine months. We are still
engaged in two wars against people that did nothing to us. Attacking Afghanistan for 9/11 would be the same as if Israel attacked us for neo-nazis parading with the KKK, it just doesn't make sense. Keeping both these wars going should disqualify President Obama from the PEACE Prize, until he withdraws.

They are Obama's wars now.
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frog92969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 07:13 AM
Response to Reply #190
231. It's truly Orwellian.
It's an insane world when you can win the Nobel Peace Prize while your slaughtering innocent people in three countries.
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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 08:22 AM
Response to Reply #231
315. Three?
What's number three?
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 09:12 AM
Response to Reply #315
357. Pakistan. Also, Somalia.
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roody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 09:56 AM
Response to Reply #357
401. and looking the other way in Honduras.
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debunkthelies Donating Member (290 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 01:21 PM
Response to Reply #231
522. I agree
When I read the news I just wondered if I had somehow gotten up in an alternate universe, I'm still not sure. :nuke: Peace?
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BumRushDaShow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 12:13 PM
Response to Reply #190
498. This was awarded based on the year BEFORE he got into office.
Or did you not read the justification?
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angrychair Donating Member (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 10:52 PM
Response to Reply #190
585. What?????
Afghanistan didn't do anything to us?!?! Don't get me wrong, I'm no fan of our current effort and I think ANY country conducting ANY campaign in Afghanistan is likely doomed, but you have selective memory my friend. AQ had camps all over Afghan and the nutjobs running that country were protecting them and supporting them. You go a step to far in your effort to give cover to the nuts running that country after 9/11 and the drug dealers exporting tons of poppy every month. Bite your tongue. You'll thank yourself tomorrow.
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pokercat999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 07:42 AM
Response to Reply #585
594. You go a little far yourself as today our troops walk past
huge fields of poppy and marijuana and do nothing per orders of their commanders. Don't believe me watch Frontline on PBS they have film.

And a few hundred AQ and a few thousand crazy RW Fundies (taliban) don't make up the population of Afghanistan. Afghanistan didn't send an Army or Navy, a few crazy religious zealots flew a plane into a building, and attacked our Navy ship in port, tried to blow up some stuff and for this the entire population of Afghanistan is subjected to a war in their streets?

"Nutjobs running that country", do you mean the elected government that we now support or the taliban REBELS?
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moodforaday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 07:49 AM
Response to Reply #75
272. Pushing, talking, trying...
it's all fine, but wake me up when living people stop getting killed. Including by American troops and American drones. You don't get so much as a high-school diploma for trying and showing promise, do you?
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 08:16 AM
Response to Reply #75
306. Exactly. And the way some people on this board are talking...
With friends like those, who needs enemies?
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 05:56 AM
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156. Text of Committee's Announcement:
"The Norwegian Nobel Committee has decided that the Nobel Peace Prize for 2009 is to be awarded to President Barack Obama for his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples. The Committee has attached special importance to Obama's vision of and work for a world without nuclear weapons.

Obama has as President created a new climate in international politics. Multilateral diplomacy has regained a central position, with emphasis on the role that the United Nations and other international institutions can play. Dialogue and negotiations are preferred as instruments for resolving even the most difficult international conflicts. The vision of a world free from nuclear arms has powerfully stimulated disarmament and arms control negotiations. Thanks to Obama's initiative, the USA is now playing a more constructive role in meeting the great climatic challenges the world is confronting. Democracy and human rights are to be strengthened.

Only very rarely has a person to the same extent as Obama captured the world's attention and given its people hope for a better future. His diplomacy is founded in the concept that those who are to lead the world must do so on the basis of values and attitudes that are shared by the majority of the world's population.

For 108 years, the Norwegian Nobel Committee has sought to stimulate precisely that international policy and those attitudes for which Obama is now the world's leading spokesman. The Committee endorses Obama's appeal that "Now is the time for all of us to take our share of responsibility for a global response to global challenges."
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zalinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 11:30 AM
Response to Reply #156
485. So, in other words
they gotten taken in by the Hope and Change meme. And they are hoping he will change, something.

zalinda
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 06:11 AM
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joeycola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 06:49 AM
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204. hey
gal. Long time no "see" Hope all is well.
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Piewhacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 10:16 AM
Original message
look at what the committee said in the announcement.. I think it was...
1) leadership in nuclear disarmament/non-proliferation
2) leadership in healing the islam-christian rift that has developed.



remember
2.1 billion christians
1.5 billion muslims
1.5 billion hindu and buddist

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arcos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:20 AM
Response to Reply #32
42. hummmmm.... ok Academy....................... nt
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 10:08 AM
Response to Reply #32
415. True, maybe people haven't followed what the President has done on this
side of things - too busy complaining about how he is handling the public option.
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 06:01 AM
Response to Reply #22
161. I think you misunderestimate the importance of not being George W Bush.
I'm surprised they didn't give a Nobel Prize to the pilot that flew him back to Texas.
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knixphan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 07:06 AM
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222. Zactly!
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 09:03 AM
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347. Lol! nt
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 10:25 AM
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435. Noice.
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 06:25 AM
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176. +1 Granted, the no-nukes stance was HUGE, but did W* really set the bar so low?
After all, we're still in Iraq and Afghanistan. Should everyone who shows up for work today and does their job expect a raise? Or is this simply a slap at the Neocon empire builders who would keep the entire planet in a constant state of war simply for profit?

I'm a huge fan of Obama, but this is embarrassingly inappropriate.

Republicons in 3..2..1.. "As the Democrats are so fond of saying, Obama ('cause they never say "President Obama") inherited the Presidency from Chuckle Nuts and the drunken shooter, who both deserve to share equally in this fine award. George and Dick obviously did the groundwork leading up to this and should be credited for doing all the hard work."

But only if they have to show up at the Hague to receive their just reward.
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pundaint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 10:17 AM
Response to Reply #176
428. Yes
He would have set it lower but we ran out of troops.
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 06:27 AM
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179. Good intentions seemingly
I agree. Much as I like Obama, I don't think he's done enough to warrant it yet. I'm just enjoying watching the winger heads asplode ala Scanners.
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tclambert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 06:30 AM
Response to Reply #22
184. I think more for "not being Dick Cheney."
Does seem a bit premature. When he starts scoring solid progress in Iraq, Afghanistan, and the Middle East in coming years, they may have to give him several more.

Oh, gotta go, we're about to attack the Moon!
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Blandocyte Donating Member (830 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 06:35 AM
Response to Reply #184
187. He'll have a Nobel prize case. Nobels lined up on shelves!
Maybe now even a prize for moon shooting! We're shooting the moon! Take that, world!

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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:12 AM
Response to Reply #8
16. Yeah, I asked myself the same thing
Not to be disrespectful, but I don't understand what he's done to merit the Nobel Peace Prize.
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dotymed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 05:29 AM
Response to Reply #16
134. Besides Really pissing off Cheney
and alex jones for getting this award.lol..Maybe I can't see
the trees for the forrest, but I agree. His achievements, so
far, don't seem to merit the award. I hope this award really
propels him to "be all he can be." For instance, I
really feel like he could get Single Payer passed, because he
has the support of so many. Also. maybe this will give him the
confidence to prosecute bush &co....we'll see. He has some
extraordinary fellow recipients, who have set a very high bar.
Congratulations Mr. President.
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alp227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 01:48 PM
Response to Reply #134
530. I agree and am glad to see not everyone here's cheering mindlessly
I think the committee should've waited till things got better in Afghanistan actually, not speculatively. You never know if by 2012, Obama will lose the election, Osama bin Laden is still a fugitive, and the Taliban is still blowing things up all over Afghanistan and even Pakistan right? But at least Obama is pulling out troops from Iraq and tried to close Guantanamo (but Congress said no).
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 06:54 AM
Response to Reply #16
210. Whatever it was, he had to have done it the first two weeks he was in office
because that's when the nomination deadline occurred.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 07:19 AM
Response to Reply #210
237. Voting was in October. nt
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Chemisse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:15 AM
Response to Reply #8
24. That was my first thought.
I fully expect he will be worthy of such an award at some point. But it doesn't seem like he has done very much yet.

Maybe for the rest of the world, just not being George W. Bush is enough.
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xocet Donating Member (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:24 AM
Response to Reply #24
54. Film...?
Instead of "Being John Malkovich", how about "Not Being George Bush"?

How would that be for a movie?

:)
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:19 AM
Response to Reply #8
40. for NOT being bush* or a fucking repuke would be enough in my book...
fucking WAR CRIMINALS all who got us into these ILLEGAL WARS OF CHOICE based on LIES...
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arcos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:35 AM
Response to Reply #40
66. Well, if you believe the US is the whole world, then yes, that would "be enough"...
However, even though the US is an empire, it is just ONE country out of many, and I'm sorry to inform you that "not being Bush" is pretty much irrelevant to most of the world. Oh yeah, we don't count, but whatever...
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:51 AM
Response to Reply #66
89. The Nobel prize committee is comprised of representatives from all over the world.
And I'm sure that they are QUITE aware that there is more to the world than America.

They, and they alone, are the ones who decided to bestow this honor on Obama. Deal with it, please.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:57 AM
Response to Reply #89
97. Actually, they're all Norwegian politicians
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 05:14 AM
Response to Reply #97
122. Thanks for that. Even more proof that they are aware of life "outside of America."
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 08:18 AM
Response to Reply #66
308. "Not being Bush" is VERY relevant to most of the world.
Since his election, the world has been breathing a sigh of relief.
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ThatsMyBarack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 08:42 AM
Response to Reply #308
333. Yep.
I do that when I wake up every morning! ;)
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MetaTrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 05:49 AM
Response to Reply #40
152. And then keeping us in them
(uh...)
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 05:34 AM
Response to Reply #8
137. "Obama's vision of and work for a world without nuclear weapons."
"The Committee has attached special importance to Obama's vision of and work for a world without nuclear weapons."
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 06:20 AM
Response to Reply #137
171. And also of immense importance, climate change.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 06:56 AM
Response to Reply #171
212. What has he done to address climate change? nt
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 07:42 AM
Response to Reply #212
258. Ask the Nobel Committee.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 06:55 AM
Response to Reply #137
211. Did he lay that out during his first two weeks in office?
the nomination deadline was Feb. 1st.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 07:12 AM
Response to Reply #211
228. This whole thing is crazy. I like to think he'll now earn it. nt
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 09:10 AM
Response to Reply #211
354. yes, but voting was in October
kind of like the Academy Awards. A lot of the academy see the movies after the nominations and before the vote.
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 10:13 AM
Response to Reply #211
422. Long before that.
Edited on Fri Oct-09-09 10:17 AM by bananas
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
<snip>

Twenty-six years later, the author, in his new job as president of the United States, has begun pushing for new global rules, treaties and alliances that he insists can establish a nuclear-free world.

<snip>

All this is supposed to culminate, next year, in an American effort to rewrite crucial provisions of the 1968 Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty.

<snip>

Each of those steps would require building a global consensus.

<snip>
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azygous Donating Member (110 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 08:08 AM
Response to Reply #8
289. Like Bush's Medal of Freedom
The Nobel Committee has cheapened the Nobel Peace Prize by using it as a political device. My mind reels. Obama hasn't done anything concrete to earn this honor. He hasn't even kept his promise to close Guantanamo.
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KitSileya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:09 AM
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10. Yay! K+R
Press conference questions = daring choice as he hasn't been president even a year yet - how does the committee defend that?
= How will China and Russia react?


According to Nobel's testament, it is the person who has contributed the most to establish peace in the last year who should win.
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 06:21 AM
Response to Reply #10
173. Don't be pedantic, there's a good girl.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 09:37 AM
Response to Reply #10
380. Please see Reply ##s 319 and 154 for the Committee's statements.
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BumRushDaShow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:11 AM
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13. President Barack Obama wins Nobel Peace Prize
Edited on Fri Oct-09-09 04:16 AM by BumRushDaShow
Source: MSNBC

EDIT:


Also heard it as a breaking news on the radio


No link yet. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33237202/ns/world_news-euro... /



Freeper heads will explode.

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Surya Gayatri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:11 AM
Response to Original message
14. OMG, this will send the wing-nuts
into a lethal hate lather, for sure. Bravo President Obama! SG
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johnfunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:19 AM
Response to Reply #14
38. I doubt we'll hear the Drugster Rush try his "Barack Hussein Obama, mm mm mm" snark again
:evilgrin:
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Surya Gayatri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 05:05 AM
Response to Reply #38
111. Hey there, johnfunk...
Not to worry--the Drugster will find some way to spin this as either an insult to the US in some way or more likely proof of the corruption of the Nobel committee. We must never "misunderestimte" their capacity for lies and distortion. SG
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 05:07 AM
Response to Reply #38
114. Actually, I expect Rush and all of them to escalate, not back down.
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Surya Gayatri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 05:14 AM
Response to Reply #114
121. I agree NE...
But, the rhetoric will become ever shriller and less credible (except to the madhouse base).
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 09:13 AM
Response to Reply #121
359. Yep, proving every rainbow has a silver lining.
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dotymed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 06:01 AM
Response to Reply #114
162. In my e-mail this morning
I received a badly put together "FEMA Internment
Camps" video trailer. They wanted ME to purchase the CD.
Anyway, this "trailer" featured Obama (Hitler)
Youths being indoctrinated. It was very obviously shot by the
same person who made the Pre-schoolers learning Rush Limbaugh
songs. Only this time the same kids (all blurry still, and
dubbed) were singing Obama praises. It was an Alex Jones
production. I'm sure his next "movie" will be about
the Nobel Committee being a part of this conspiracy.. people
get very wealthy off of this crap. It kind of reminds me of a
bad science fiction writer, starting a religion based on his
books, that religion becoming one of the most popular(and
lucrative) in Hollywood, etc... I am poor. If I had NO
SCRUPLES, I could be wealthy...I'm probably a fool.
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Jester Messiah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 07:50 AM
Response to Reply #114
273. I expect he won't give it more than passing mention
You might hear Yassir Arafat's name mentioned a good bit in order to try and discredit the award as valueless. Then he'll be back to his same old song & dance.
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:38 AM
Response to Reply #14
70. The wingnuts on BOTH sides of the spectrum. And I absolutely LOVE it
Most of them are so far gone, they're nothing but specks on the horizon. But for the few circling the drain looking for every excuse in the world to condemn our President, this will leave them sputtering and frothing more than ever.

Oh, I love this.
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shellgame26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:51 AM
Response to Reply #70
90. wait
for the nobel committee smear-fest to begin.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 09:11 AM
Response to Reply #90
355. That has been in full sway since Carter and Gore won--and Reagan didn't.
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Surya Gayatri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 05:09 AM
Response to Reply #70
115. Me too, Number23...
I LOVE this. I think it's an inspired choice to reward a world leader--to encourage him at the beginning of his career, rather than years after the fact. SG
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 05:22 AM
Response to Reply #115
127. Beautifully said, Surya. Come join me in my 23 Gun Salute/Happy Dance!
:woohoo: :applause: :bounce: :party: :woohoo: :applause: :bounce: :party: :woohoo: :applause: :bounce: :party: :woohoo: :applause: :bounce: :party:
:woohoo: :applause: :bounce: :party: :woohoo: :applause: :bounce: :party: :woohoo: :applause: :bounce: :party:
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Surya Gayatri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 05:33 AM
Response to Reply #127
136. OK, you're on!!!
Here's to 7 more years of leadership and a long post-presidential career from this fine man. May he grow more every day into his role as World Peace Advocate.

:kick: :headbang: :applause: :woohoo: :bounce: :kick: :headbang: :applause: :woohoo: :bounce:

:kick: :headbang: :applause: :woohoo: :bounce: :kick: :headbang: :applause: :woohoo: :bounce:

:kick: :headbang: :applause: :woohoo: :bounce: :kick: :headbang: :applause: :woohoo: :bounce:

:kick: :headbang: :applause: :woohoo: :bounce: :kick: :headbang: :applause: :woohoo: :bounce:

:kick: :headbang: :applause: :woohoo: :bounce: :kick: :headbang: :applause: :woohoo: :bounce:
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 10:55 AM
Response to Reply #70
453. No, shit.. it brings out the whiners on both sides. No one is pure enough for them. n/t
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:39 AM
Response to Reply #14
74. I never go to Free Republic or watch Faux, but I am almost tempted today.
Edited on Fri Oct-09-09 04:41 AM by No Elephants
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Surya Gayatri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 05:12 AM
Response to Reply #74
118. Same for me...
In fact, I did try streaming FOX, but it was just O'Really blathering on in replay. SG
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:47 AM
Response to Reply #14
82. The real wing nuts probably don't know what the Nobel Prize is ~
But we sure know :shrug:
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Surya Gayatri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 05:19 AM
Response to Reply #82
125. Hey, goclark...
That may not be entirely the case. If they've heard of it, they probably believe it's some "LIBRUL" plot to reward commies, pinkos and other subversives. SG
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 06:24 AM
Response to Reply #125
175. Yep. the give-away is them being Socialist Scandiavians.
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shellgame26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:49 AM
Response to Reply #14
86. Ha HA "lethal hate lather"!
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Surya Gayatri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 05:24 AM
Response to Reply #86
130. Hey shellgame, glad you liked my
attempt at alliteration. But, then again, it really does describe them to a tee. SG
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bulloney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 05:23 AM
Response to Reply #14
128. Ha!! Arizona State University snubbed a Nobel Peace Prize winner last spring!
Personnally, I think the award was given to Obama to send a message to the Bush backers and the neo-cons in the U.S., telling them they were way over the line when Bush/Cheney were in power.
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Surya Gayatri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 05:26 AM
Response to Reply #128
132. Yeah, bulloney, I hope there are
some seriously red faces at ASU today. SG
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 12:40 PM
Response to Reply #128
509. I thought of that, too. The refusal to grant Obama an
honorary degree looks even more idiotic now.
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 07:38 AM
Response to Reply #14
255. I've spent a lot of time lurking over at FR
and they will just dismiss this as another way that the world is screwed up, in their view. They will point to Le Duc Tho and Yassir Arafat as previous recipients, and will figure that this is another Nobel example of being PC.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 10:24 AM
Response to Reply #14
434. Seems like it has sent some that should be proud
into a "he didn't do this, he didn't do that --- why should he get it?"

:shrug:

MSM "talking heads" are busy little bees trying to be"fair and balanced."

For my part ~ I am enormously pleased that he received the Nobel Prize and believe that it will inspire him and those that seek PEACE around the world.

:patriot:
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:12 AM
Response to Original message
18. Breaking News: Entire Fux "News" Staff Chokes And Dies On Their Own Bile!!!
Edited on Fri Oct-09-09 04:16 AM by TankLV
network scrambling to find new on-air hacks to fill in...

More to follow...

Hearty Congratulations to President Barack Hussein Obama!!!

The CNN talking heads just cannot figure it out...HA!!!

and Fux has on KKKarl Rove dissing the Stimulus and other programs Obama has initiated to deal with bush*s FAILURES!!!
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csziggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:23 AM
Response to Reply #18
49. Whoever the jerk on CNN is incredulous
And obviously does not want to believe that it is true. The guy he just interviewed over the phone was equally upset.

Damn these a**holes - the committee has decided. Barack Obama won the Nobel Peace Prize. Can't they be happy for him, for the country, and even possibly that the world has someone who is working for PEACE instead of for war as leader of the most militarized country in the world?
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AngryOldDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 06:59 AM
Response to Reply #49
216. Matt Lauer and David Gregory virtually shit all over it on Today.
Chuckie Todd was only marginally better.

Hey, guys, do something relevant with YOUR lives and maybe you, too, will win a Nobel!
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 09:21 AM
Response to Reply #216
367. Two Bush lovers--and not in a good way. Todd-I don't know. He once
disclosed, early in the run up to the 2008 election that his wife was an employee of the Obama campaign. Whether they are a baby Maitlin and Carville or whether he is just trying to keep his job, I don't know. Sometimes he seems reasonable; sometimes he seems as biased as the rest of the clowns.

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Aramchek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 10:43 AM
Response to Reply #216
446. Matt and David are virtually shit, so what did you expect?
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 09:57 AM
Response to Reply #49
402. No.
Edited on Fri Oct-09-09 09:58 AM by Window
"Barack Obama won the Nobel Peace Prize. Can't they be happy for him, for the country, and even possibly that the world has someone who is working for PEACE instead of for war as leader of the most militarized country in the world?"

No, they can't.
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 09:47 AM
Response to Reply #18
392. That would be filed under "News I Can Use." n/t
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FunkyLeprechaun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:13 AM
Response to Original message
20. Is this the first time a sitting US president got this prize?
N/T
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FunkyLeprechaun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:17 AM
Response to Reply #20
31. Nevermind
Saw that about Woodrow Wilson... that would be a great pub quiz question!
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 05:47 AM
Response to Reply #20
147. The third. And the most recent was Jimmy Carter, a one term President. nt
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 06:11 AM
Response to Reply #147
168. Carter got his long after he was president
But this is the 3rd sitting US president: Teddy Roosevelt, Woodrow Wilson, and now Barack Obama.
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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:14 AM
Response to Original message
21. It seems a bit nutty that the President of a country that is...
waging war in two countries is awarded a peace prize.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:15 AM
Response to Reply #21
26. He won it...not the USA....and certainly not the last administration.
if you would remember, the wars were already there when he arrived.
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choie Donating Member (899 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 05:05 AM
Response to Reply #26
112. yeah
and he is probably going to wind up sending more troops over to Afghanistan. Sorry, I'm a little perplexed by this choice. I guess it indicates that there hasn't been much "peace-making" going on by others in the world. Strange...
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 09:26 AM
Response to Reply #112
371. I am not sure about Afghanistan. There seems to be a coordinated effort
to say we should direct out attention toward Al Qaeda, not the Taliban.

We had statements from generals saying not to conflate Taliban and Al Qaeda.

We had a statement from the Taliban saying attacking America is not their agenda, but it might become such if our occupation continues.

We had the Army Chaplains issuing a statement about how our troops in Afghanistan are depressed because the mission there is hopeless.

Etc.
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moodforaday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 09:15 AM
Response to Reply #26
360. Yeah, the wars were already ongoing, so
so whose responsibility is it to end them now? Or, do you think, *should* they be ended now, since Bush is no longer in office?

Bush started a war - bad.
Obama continues the war - good.

Can you explain that in reasonable terms?
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angrychair Donating Member (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 11:18 PM
Response to Reply #360
587. Yes I can
Your view from the cheap seats to your comfort armchair general? The man has only been in office for less than a year, give it a rest. Has he been perfect, no. Do I think he is giving it his best effort, yes. Does that mean he has to do everything I want on my schedule? That would be absurd. Your request of him is absurd. He has done more toward real communication with both our enemies and our friends and real progress toward meaningful peace efforts than we have seen in a long time. You also have to temper your expectations with the realities on the ground. Nothing in the government moves fast and nothing is as easy as it seems. The honor is has achieved is real, his desire to make our world a better place I think is genuine. It may not be tomorrow but that day will come. Life without hope is a life without purpose.
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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:16 AM
Response to Reply #21
28. Well I know I'm a bit puzzled
:shrug:
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 07:13 AM
Response to Reply #28
230. Me too. nt
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arcos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:21 AM
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43. It is not just nutty, it is absolutely ridiculous.... nt
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 06:50 AM
Original message
Yeah, Republicons are having a hard time believing it too. n/t
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:58 AM
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99. +1
But, then again, the Nobel committee gave a peace prize to this guy, too:

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phasma ex machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 11:00 AM
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461. +1 nt
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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 12:36 PM
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506. I thought that Prize lost all luster decades ago. . .
When the award was given to Kissinger in '73, back as he was orchestrating the bombing of Cambodia and giving support to Condor, among other crimes, the Committee showed itself to be clueless and its prize a hollow bauble.

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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 06:37 AM
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191. +infinity
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Babyserendip Donating Member (53 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 07:25 AM
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247. Agreed. ..if he does not end the wars....he will look very hypocritical.
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:43 PM
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555. How is this the President's hypocrisy?
He didn't ask for or lobby for the award, as some confused people seem to believe. He's not out there posturing as some ultimate peacenik, nor did he accept the award with anything except humility.

Fail.

:eyes:
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MellowDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 09:51 AM
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395. The truth of the matter is...
that if we eventually "win" in those countries aka they become functioning peaceful democracies, then no one will really complain. Things are looking up in Iraq right now, and Afghanistan seemed to have been a more "just" war, so that is probably some of the thinking. If things were going like they were in 2005, he probably wouldn't recieve it, which is stupid.

The international community is like rabid soccer fans. If you take a big risk that most fans would be opposed to, they'll hate you for it, but if it eventually pays off, they'll forgive and forget it. It is a fickle thing.

And regardless, Obama inherited these two wars, which I know may be hard for some to wrap their tiny little minds around.

And, of course, waging war is not in and of itself a "bad" thing, sometimes it is quite necessary and doesn't mean a country is "evil". After all, all those NATO countries are waging war right along with us in Afghanistan and some of them in Iraq as well.

The way President Obama has handled foriegn diplomacy has been very admirable, and doesn't make this prize seem "nutty" at all, but it does make your logic seem a bit "nutty".
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KitSileya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:14 AM
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23. So he is the 4th American President to get it,
Woodrow Wilson, Jimmy Carter, Al Gore, and now Barack Obama.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:16 AM
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29. Al Gore, huh? Okay.
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KitSileya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:18 AM
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33. He may not have been sworn in, but he won the election in 2000.
I refuse to be amongst those who do not acknowledge that he won that office.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 08:47 AM
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338. Exactly. Unless you condone theft by the U.S. Supreme Court?
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:22 AM
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48. Teddy Roosevelt in 1906
The only Republican.
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KitSileya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:39 AM
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73. Ack! That's what I get from listening to tv
I thought Roosevelt, but then this guy being interviewed on Norwegian tv mentions the Presidents that have gotten the Peace Prize, and starts off with Wilson, (then Sadat, Carter) so I figured I had mixed up my Presidents.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 05:12 AM
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117. And TR changed parties after his Presidency.
The Republican Party started well with Honest Abe, when Democrats were the fat cats, but then, over time, it morphed into the ugly thing we see today.
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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 11:10 AM
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467. The modern repugs
are nothing like the Republican that TR was. He wouldn't even recognize that party today.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:50 AM
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88. Good one! But Teddy Roosevelt won as well, so fifth.
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bulloney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 05:27 AM
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133. All four of those recipients are Democrats.
The Repubs will point to this and argue that the Nobel committee has a bias. Personally, I think it shows how detached from the rest of the world many Republicans have been. They're too busy imposing U.S. economics, politics, culture and wars on other countries to be considered for such an award.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 08:36 AM
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330. Roosevelt was a Republican when he won the award. But, it's not
surprising that so few Republicans are on it. They pride themselves on their military strength, not their peacemaking abilities.

If the Nobel Committee ever decides to have a military spending award, including on excess nukes and obsolete weapons, planes, etc., maybe the Rethugs will corner that market.
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eirteacher Donating Member (66 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 12:17 PM
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499. Dont forget Teddy
Don't forget the last good Repuck prez to win Teddy Roosevelt.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:15 AM
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25. What peace? Where?
Is this a contrast-to-Bush award for simply being willing to actually talk to people?
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bigbrother05 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:18 AM
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36. His willingness to talk probably has contributed more than any other single person
Edited on Fri Oct-09-09 04:26 AM by bigbrother05
The change in atmoshpere world wide is palpable.

Peace has a definite left wing/liberal bias.

The Nobel Committee has not been shy about using the Peace Prize to make a statement.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:19 AM
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37. His work on limiting nuclear weaponry, cancellation of Missile shield bullshit,
Edited on Fri Oct-09-09 04:20 AM by FrenchieCat
work on the Palestinian issue, Talking to Iran, Back at the negotiating table with N. Korea, Reassessment of Afghanistan, Withdrawing from Iraq, in the middle of closing Gitmo, promising no more torture, and raprochement to Russia....and increasing the goodwill of the US by a whole bunch!

and it keeps him working towards peace....so this prize is going to help us all!
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classof56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 07:18 AM
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236. Well said, FrenchieCat. Thanks! n/t
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sledgehammer Donating Member (774 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 08:34 AM
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329. Agreed, but I feel there should be some results
I totally love Obama. And I really respect the Nobel Peace Prize. I just think that it's way too early to give him the prize.

There are people like Greg Mortenson in this world (of the bestselling book "Three Cups of Tea") who began with absolutely nothing and has built dozens of schools in Northern Pakistan and into Afghanistan and Central Asia, changing the community by leaps and bounds. Read more about him here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greg_Mortenson

However, I do agree that it prods him in the direction of peace as it is a huge honor and responsibility. And maybe that was a reason for awarding it to him. Still though, I would not have chosen him for the prize today.

Anyways, congrats to him! I'm sure he would have received it sooner or later.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 09:33 AM
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378. A shift in mindset is a result--and often one that is more effective and long-lasting
than a tangible event.

If you shift from "talking is a sign of weakness and should come only after many concessions have already been made" to "talk first, boycott or bomb only if talking does not work," that is very powerful.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:23 AM
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50. The contrast and world reaction to his election would be my guess
After Bush, actually being willing to talk with people and use diplomacy must seem astonishing.
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YvonneCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 08:21 AM
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314. Of the two most recent 'world views' of US Presidents, Obama promotes...
...communication, debate, and working together to find solutions to our common problems. THAT is avery different 'world view' than "BOMB, bomb,bomb Iran."

Both Al Gore and Barack Obama have a cooperative 'world view.' They deserve the Nobel Peace Prize for their work to put our country and the world on a new track.I am grateful that SOMEONE is trying to undo the BUSH/CHENEY world view.

Congratulations, Mr. President! :patriot:
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Tab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:16 AM
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30. Does this NOW mean
that he was acccumulated a body of work worth of an honory degree from Southern Arizona or whatever it was?
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 06:27 AM
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180. That's a tall order.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:18 AM
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34. But Rush, You told us that Chicago was proof that the world HATED him!
Aren't you EVER right you strung out pedophile?
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:27 AM
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57. Although in all seriousness, this will fuel the Righty's attacks today.
It does seem a bit soon and the prize seems more about vision than accomplishments.

Rush and his crying clown prince are going to have a field day.
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 06:30 AM
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182. I think you need two handles on things. One doesn't seem to be enough.
Edited on Fri Oct-09-09 06:31 AM by Joe Chi Minh
A field day in the sense of the deranged Nebuchadnezzar eating grass.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 10:13 AM
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421. And we should care, why?
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mogster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:18 AM
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35. Woohoo!
Say what? :bounce: :grouphug: :fistbump: :woohoo:
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mogster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 06:35 AM
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186. A royalty free pic of the Nobel institute
If anybody needs to use for their blog or something, here's a pic I took in summer of 2007:
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BumRushDaShow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:19 AM
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39. Sludge is silent
Any other time, sirens would be flashing and the font color would be changed to red. The crickets are DEAFENING!

:rofl:
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:21 AM
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44. That's Premature of Them
Getting an award for not being Boy George is not sufficiently accomplished.

The committee should have waited until Obama actually DID something--lots of promises, not results, too much backing and filling.
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PADemD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 05:25 AM
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131. Please see message 37
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 05:38 AM
Response to Reply #131
141. Can't. I have that poster on igore
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 06:57 AM
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214. Repeat of message #37
"His work on limiting nuclear weaponry, cancellation of Missile shield bullshit, work on the Palestinian issue, Talking to Iran, Back at the negotiating table with N. Korea, Reassessment of Afghanistan, Withdrawing from Iraq, in the middle of closing Gitmo, promising no more torture, and raprochement to Russia....and increasing the goodwill of the US by a whole bunch!

and it keeps him working towards peace....so this prize is going to help us all!"
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 10:13 AM
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420. Not-Presidents can win. It does not have to be based only on time
in office as President. The premature thing is bullshit. And it has been for what he has done, not just for not being Bush.

And it's not premature if in only 9 months, things are turned around and we are no longer an international pariah.

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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:21 AM
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45. CNN International's anchor is acting as if he's been mentally tasered, lol
Edited on Fri Oct-09-09 04:24 AM by Turborama
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:24 AM
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52. thanks, I had to check it out
He always has that deer in the headlights look and this seems to have gotten him really excited. :hi:
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BumRushDaShow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:32 AM
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63. It wasn't just cable news that had the deer in headlights
I heard it on my news radio this morning as it came through around 5:03is and when the rest of the statement came after the "This just in...", it was like someone had hit the talking head with a huge baseball bat. It was that noticeable.

Pure. Unadulterated. Shock.
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:50 AM
Response to Reply #63
87. Ha ha ha, today's gonna be a great day!
I just got an email from a wingnut, who was saying Obama's failed Olympics bid is evidence his world popularity is just another librul lie.

:D
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:51 AM
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91. I can't believe how Faux newsish he's being
As you may know already, CNN International is usually a lot more objective than this.

:hi:

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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:24 AM
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53. Cute Movie Poster
Can't wait until it opens nationwide!
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:48 AM
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85. Haha, me too.
I can't wait to see him in Presidential debates one day.

:fistbump:
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johnfunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:26 AM
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55. Jonathan Mann's not having a very good timme now, is he!
Mann is one of CNN's biggest Neocon apologists. Suck it, Jonnyboy!
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DangerousRhythm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:42 AM
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76. He actually asked someone if they thought he earned it!
He looks baffled! :rofl:
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:45 AM
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79. He's asked about 5 people now, and they have all said a categorical yes, lmao
Edited on Fri Oct-09-09 04:52 AM by Turborama
This could cost him his job, well at least I hope it does. This sort of shit belongs on Faux news. CNN International is normally a lot more objective.
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:52 AM
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93. I'm going to contact the station today and ask them to fire him.
His behavior is appalling. That smartass smirk on is face is hard to take. I could punch his lights out.
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:54 AM
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96. Good idea!
Edited on Fri Oct-09-09 04:54 AM by Turborama
I'm going to do the same. Maybe even start an online petition.

Got any idea what the best email address to use to contact CNN about this?

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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 05:10 AM
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116. No, and I'm not even sure of the name of the program.
And I have to get some shuteye now. Let me know if you figure that out. Otherwise I'll look it up later today.
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DangerousRhythm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 05:03 AM
Original message
He was asking one of the Nobel dudes just a few minutes ago, if they had any problems...
If anyone disagreed... he was DESPERATE for the gossipy story he wanted to tell. WTF!
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 06:36 AM
Response to Reply #79
189. This reminds me of their campaign to impeach Bill! The more they frothed at the mouth, the greater
Edited on Fri Oct-09-09 06:36 AM by Joe Chi Minh
the delight people took in confounding them with their cock-a-meenie vox pops!
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:58 AM
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98. Hes just asking Mr Jagland who announced the prize if he deserved it and now
he's throwing Iraq and Afghanistan into the mix and pushing him to admit that it was a mistake. This guy needs to be punished.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 05:00 AM
Response to Reply #98
103. and he wanted to know how many votes it took and talked right over him when he said
..he got all 5!
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 05:06 AM
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113. Yeah, not easy to hear but we still got the answer. Checking out Faux for a comparison
Edited on Fri Oct-09-09 05:06 AM by Turborama
Heads exploded for 5 minutes and they've moved on to Afghanistan.
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 06:38 AM
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194. Ha! Ha! Totally bereft of any sense of shame.
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:44 AM
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78. No, he sure isn't. He's begging people to agree with his belief that Obama doesn't deserve it
I never knew that he was so anti-Obama.

1st Amanpour schools him and then the climate change guy rebutted all his squealing that Obama doesn't deserve it.

I bet he's going through his phone book looking for Ann Coulter's number right now.
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 06:39 AM
Response to Reply #78
195. Like they did in their efforts to demonize Bill Clinton. And the public drove by, splashing
mud in their face.
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excess_3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:22 AM
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46. for work as Senator, as President, or before that?
please enlighten me
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:26 AM
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56. For defending the world against the Moon, of course
:hide:
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 05:01 AM
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106. President
Diplomacy
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kiranon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 12:58 PM
Response to Reply #46
514. For defeating the neocons and for not being Republican or Bush.
For taking on the very powerful forces behind the right wing Republicans and winning. It makes a tremendous difference to the rest of the world that Republicans like Bush and Cheney are no longer in the White House and the neocons are gone or hopefully gone from positions of power in the government. The era of preemptive wars is over.
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TheWebHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:23 AM
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51. So Shrub has won two Nobel Peace Prizes
...for other people.
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:59 AM
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100. Ha ha ha, you're so right!
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:29 AM
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58. Gore Wins Nobel Prize, High Court Gives It to Bush
Obama gets to keep his.
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d_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:29 AM
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59. congrats
now let's get out of of the middle east ASAP, Mr. President

:toast:
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DangerousRhythm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:43 AM
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77. *screams*
I totally forgot about that scary dude in your signature until just now! :scared:
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d_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:46 AM
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80. lols
he's still out there...SOMEWHERE
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DangerousRhythm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 07:22 AM
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241. ROFL! And he's probably in the same exact position as in that picture...
Creeping around on tiptoes with his hands out like that, I imagine. Kind of a lot like...

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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 05:02 AM
Response to Reply #77
108. Ditto!
But that lolcat caption totally made my day! :rofl:

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DangerousRhythm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 07:25 AM
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246. I DID laugh at that after the initial scream-shock-shudder reaction.
:rofl:
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:30 AM
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60. Awesome!
:bounce:
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lamp_shade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:30 AM
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61. Wow. Will ya just look at all the "disgruntleds" coming out of the woodwork this morning.
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BumRushDaShow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:35 AM
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67. That is actually surprising me too.
although I suppose it shouldn't be. It's almost PUMAish.
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 05:00 AM
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104. Or...
Fr........

Nope, not allowed to go there. :spank:
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Lilyeye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 06:16 AM
Original message
I was thinking the exact same as I was reading the snarky comments.
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Lilyeye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 06:16 AM
Original message
I was thinking the exact same as I was reading the snarky comments.
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Mad_Dem_X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 07:13 AM
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229. Amazing, isn't it?
Edited on Fri Oct-09-09 07:13 AM by Mad_Dem_X
DU continues to surprise me, and not in a good way.

ETA: Congratulations, Mr. President! :fistbump:
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:31 AM
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62. Maybe the Nobel Committee watches Fox on occasion, and just wanted to see their reaction
OK, just joking.

But what was left of the cheering when Chicago lost the Olympics should die down to soft whimper, if that.

They hated it when Al Gore won it. This one must really hurt (bet Ahmedinejad is not to thrilled either, but then,
seeing how he conducted Iran's last "election," he has more in common with the Bush Republicans and Fox anyway).
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 07:14 AM
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232. Best explanation yet. nt
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trevjr Donating Member (38 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:33 AM
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64. Amazing how Obama is attacked by the left
before the right even wakes up. Why are you asking what for when the answer is clearly spelled out.
Do you think you know more than the Nobel committee?
You really sound like right wingers asking what for, this is what
Hannity will be saying all day, but you got to it first, congrats.
Congratulations President Barack Hussein Obama, you deserved this for all the crap you have been
taking for a few years.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 05:37 AM
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139. (suspect it's not the left. . rather meme-benders, up early). . n/t
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impik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 07:47 AM
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268. A-FUCKING-MAN
Shame on the left. A real shame. This man completely turned US image, in 9 months, he's a true reason to be proud. And still, the purity trolls just can't have it.


Congratulations President Barack Hussein Obama. I could not be more proud of you.
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moodforaday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 09:30 AM
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375. If "image" were what really counted
when people are still being killed in Iraq and Afghanistan, then I guess you'd be right.

Maybe you *are* right and image is all that counts anymore. Just please understand there are people who won't sign their names to that kind ot thinking.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 09:48 AM
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393. Um, Democrats are "the left." The opposite of "the left" is the right; i.e., Republicans.
Edited on Fri Oct-09-09 09:49 AM by No Elephants
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 05:45 PM
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564.  DEFINITIONS: relative to each side..>>Links>>
LIBERAL.... http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/l...
Not limited to or by established, traditional, orthodox, or authoritarian attitudes, views, or dogmas; free from bigotry.
Favoring proposals for reform, open to new ideas for progress, and tolerant of the ideas and behavior of others; broad-minded.

LEFT http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/l... ;_ylt=Aqu2Tu_hJymOCJpWB.0uvbisgMMF...The people and groups who advocate liberal, often radical measures to effect change in the established order, especially in politics, usually to achieve the equality, freedom, and well-being of the common citizens of a state. Also called left wing


CONCERVATIVE.. http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/c... ;_ylt=AoeINW5Fs4ZpyIoRUDz_0l2sgMMF
Favoring traditional views and values; tending to oppose change.

RIGHT... http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/r...
The people and groups who advocate the adoption of conservative or reactionary measures, especially in government and politics. Also called right wing .

REACTIONARY.. http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/r...
Characterized by reaction, especially opposition to progress or liberalism; extremely conservative
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InfiniteThoughts Donating Member (322 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:34 AM
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65. Congrats Mr. President
Congrats on the Nobel Prize. I only offer a caution. Take this award as one of the incentive to work hard for the next 7 years in your presidency (what, you thought the repubs will win in '12?) than as an award for your achievements. I see this award as a recognition of your potential and i hope you live to those high expectations.
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 06:44 AM
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197. Congratulations to you, and welcome.
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Sky Masterson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:36 AM
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68. Where is George Bush's Freaken prize for keepen us Merkins safe?
You tree huggen libs can't answer that canya???? Woot! :rofl:
Yay Obama! :woohoo:
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Lars77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 05:49 AM
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150. W was actually nominated
several times. US presidents always are. :)
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 07:15 AM
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235. Hitler was nominated too, in 1939
as was Stalin and Mussolini.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobel_Peace_Prize

Your point was...again? :shrug:



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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 08:16 AM
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305. he was going to call to confirm the award but choked on a pretzel instead

I guess it went to someone else - too bad :)
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Jemmons Donating Member (407 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:37 AM
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69. Why are everybody missing the bleeding obvious:
Edited on Fri Oct-09-09 04:37 AM by Jemmons
That the committee often award the price in a proactive way, that is both for actual accomplishments and as a way of supporting a body of work still in progress.

This has been the case many times before and is in my humble view a much better policy than waiting for certainty until the recipients has one foot in the grave and no use for whatever support the price would offer them. Nobody could ever blame them if they wanted to do that, but this is so much better in terms of having an effect.
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excess_3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:48 AM
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84. the Nobel committee wants, more or fewer US troops in Afghanistan? .nt
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Jemmons Donating Member (407 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 05:21 AM
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126. The committee is not concerning itself with particular numbers
The Nobel committee represents the aspirations of the academic world and would not likely fix its attention on any one specific number.
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moodforaday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 09:21 AM
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368. That's too bad.
Because the high and mighty academic committee would surely sing a different song if their owns asses were being bombed.

Here's a person who deserved the Peace Prize more.
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Jemmons Donating Member (407 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 11:17 AM
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473. Did he receive the Moodforaday Peace Price?
You might find that the Norwegians are in a position to give out prestigious prices because they did not make enemies for themselves all over the world. While you might find that Obama should not get this price, its usually those with the power who decides what is fair or not.
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 06:46 AM
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199. Very perspicacious.
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RobinA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 07:45 AM
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264. My Thought As Well
Additionally, given our press's tendency to focus on the negative, the gotchas and the truly irrelevant, I'm thinking that there's more going on with Obama internationally than gets reported here in this country. I mean, diplomacy is just so BORING. No sound bites, no sex. I don't watch TV, I read papers, but it seems to me the missle shield, for one, got extremely short shrift in the media. I could be wrong, maybe CNN covered it like paint, but I heard it as a "by the way" when really it is rather big. This whole thing makes me wonder what's going on that doesn't get reported here. We know more about Letterman's sex life than we do about any Obama dealings with the Palestinian issue. Likewise Michelle's outfit worn to Martha's Vineyard and any Obama nuke efforts.
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Jemmons Donating Member (407 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 09:03 AM
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348. Top of my list would be
"This whole thing makes me wonder what's going on that doesn't get reported here."

Top of my list would be:
The Palestinian side of the story in the Palestinian/Israeli conflict
The way that American foreign policy is used to further political donors at the expense of local interests around the world
The disbelief of the rest of the world when the US presents itself as a leading force for positive in the world.

America is a strong and wonderful nation, but acts like a knuckle dragging neanderthal whenever there is a profit to be had from it.
I feel certain that this perception is going to change as soon as you get real democracy and a government that reflects the attitudes of the population.
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 08:02 AM
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283. Interesting thought. One can invision Obama going in to the next meeting
with the military officials heading up the effort in Afghanistan and all of them congratulating him on his winning of a Nobel Peace prize before they discuss future strategy.

Sort of the world's way of telling Obama, "We got your back if you stop this neo-con, new american century bullsh*t".
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moodforaday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 09:23 AM
Response to Reply #283
370. Will that be before
or after Obama meets with lobbyists from Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman, Boeing and Raytheon?
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:38 AM
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71. Wow....
....what an honor ~~ especially for a man not eligible to be POTUS... :sarcasm:

Bet Orly's head explodes when she sees this!
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tclambert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 06:26 AM
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178. "Kenyan Socialist fascist Nazi Hitler awarded Nobel Peace Prize"
That's the headline I'm imagining over on crazyrepublicans.com, I mean freerepublic.com.
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NecklyTyler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:38 AM
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72. K&R
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DonCoquixote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:47 AM
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81. I see several things
ONE: this is Europe's way of saying "yes, we rejected the Olympic Bid, but we did not reject Obama." This is a very plain, clear way to say that while the rest of the world is still distrustful of Yanks, they are willing to give Obama a chance. They are also aware that the Right used the olympic bid to slam Obama, and this is their way of giving Fox News something to choke on.

TWO: This was the payoff for getting rid of the Missile Shield. It is not as good as ending the Mideast wars, not by a long shot, but it DID avert the reheating of the Cold War, which is the VERY LAST THING the world needed.

THREE: As Israel is SO wanting the war with iran, this is a way to choke them. Let's face facts, the right wing is ramping up for an Iranian war, and if the Other fellow in in November, the USA and Israel would be proceeding to bomb Iran in a mess that would look Iraq AND Afghanistan look like Afternoon Tea at the Ritz-Carlton. That conflict could have become the Third World War, and could still be if saner heads do not win.

FOUR: this is incentive. If Obama ramps down from the wars, he can look extra saintly, plus it makes it hard for him to backtrack and listen to Rahm. This is bait for him to NOT be LBJ.

Of course, it does not matter one bit what the world thinks, sad to say. We as Americans cannot, and should not, be satisfied with anything less than the end of these wars, as well as a slowdown of the Military industrial complex that has cost us so damned much. Of course, just because I can hold Obama to account does not mean I do not realize, for all his faults, that the alternative really is a LOT worse. A GOP victory in 2012 could show us how much worse.
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knixphan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 07:35 AM
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254. Seconded. Well-put.
:toast:
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Lena inRI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 08:05 AM
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287. Bulls-eye truth, DonCoquixote. . .
. . .you are much more than well-said. . .you are truth-telling!

As I read your astute, succinct list of committee motives, it all fell into place.

As the committee

gives President Obama the Nobel P E A C E Prize. . .



they are smacking down the global right-wingers, especially in the US, Europe, and Israel, who have been and continue TRYING to be an obstruction for diplomatic peace-making.



Thanks for clarifying these motives. . .you should be a political analyst somewhere more visible than DU!

:fistbump: :fistbump: :fistbump: :fistbump: :fistbump:
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Duppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 02:01 PM
Response to Reply #81
536. definitely nt.
nt.
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onestepforward Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:47 AM
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83. WOW!!!! Congrats to President Obama & our country!
Edited on Fri Oct-09-09 04:50 AM by onestepforward
What an honor!!!
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Are_grits_groceries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:52 AM
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92. Why did he get it?
Read the citation.

He has used his "bully pulpit" to call for diplomacy and cooperation continually. It has been his message before he was President, and he took some lumps for it too.

Yes he has policies that he needs to work on. The other presidents who won it didn't exactly have clean hands. Teddy Roosevelt roughrode all over Cuba at one time.

Good grief! Give the man some credit. What other "world leader" has used their position to take such a stance?

This nation's foreign policy is a huge ship that has sailed in the wrong direction for some time now. It won't turn on a dime, and needs to be repositioned. Every turn is hollered about as surrender. He is taking on a mindset in this nation and other countries as well that is entrenched.

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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:53 AM
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95. CONGRATULATIONS MR. PRESIDENT!!!!
Yippie!!!



K&R
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lillypaddle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:59 AM
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101. Can't the naysayers give it a rest for a MINUTE?
Congrats to our President! I'm very proud for America right now. :applause:
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Mad_Dem_X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 07:14 AM
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233. +1
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mecherosegarden Donating Member (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 08:12 AM
Response to Reply #101
297. Congratulations , Mr. President!
:toast: :toast: :party: :party: :toast: :toast: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:
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moodforaday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 09:26 AM
Response to Reply #101
372. Ask a wounded child
in Afghanistan.
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lillypaddle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 10:30 AM
Response to Reply #372
440. That's a totally bullshit response
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 10:56 AM
Response to Reply #372
455. please move there.. why are you in America in your comfy office? You should go there..
.. really, volunteer over there instead of sitting in your comfy office making these maudlin statements. Sooo dramatic. Save it for your Myspace page.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 11:13 AM
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470. Back to "America, love it or leave it" eh? Nothing progressive about that.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:59 AM
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102. Wow...just heard
That's awesome
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 05:00 AM
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105. Republican heads exploding all over the place
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 05:41 AM
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142. Yeah, I checked in over at.....
...Politico and Freeperville. Those people are not happy. Ya hear me?

- I know what you're thinking, but I don't go slumming that often, okay? And this was a special occasion!!! But I do feel like I need a shower now.....
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 06:29 AM
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181. Someone has to be brave and lurk on the dark side
So the rest of us know what they are doing.
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 07:20 AM
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238. Huh? You don't even have to leave DU!
Just take a gander at some of the comments above. :puke:


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AllenVanAllen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 05:01 AM
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107. "Blessed are the peacemakers"



The world climate has changed. Well done Mr. President!
We should be proud of ourselves too!
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 05:03 AM
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109. Congratulations, Mr. President! (Suck on it, Rethugs.)
Meanwhile, on Way Too Early on MSNBC, the bigger story is that no woman was invited to a WH basketball game, even Sebelius, who was on her college basketball team. They could have done so much good for America and the world by handling this story well. But, noooooooo.

And Morning Joe opens with "Marisa Tomei did more to win the Academy Award in My Cousin Vinnie than Barack Obama did to win the Nobel Peace Prize? And reminds us that Yasser Arafat won it and takes pot shots at Carter and Gore, then claims the Nobel Peace Prize is no longer prestigious.

How bad is our media these days?
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stlsaxman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 05:03 AM
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110. I just heard Glenn Becks head explode!
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 05:14 AM
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120. It is gonna be entertaining watching the RWs today!
So...which one will have the first head explosion?

:popcorn:
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 05:13 AM
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119. Those popping sounds you hear
are freepers heads exploding everywhere.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 05:15 AM
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123. Just like Hitler...
    "Only very rarely has a person to the same extent as Obama captured the world's attention and given its people hope for a better future,"


Can't wait to hear the Right Wing spaz over this.
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 05:35 AM
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138. Um...Hitler never gave the world hope for a better future!
Edited on Fri Oct-09-09 05:55 AM by CJCRANE
On edit: And the comparison to Hitler isn't accurate, both FDR and Churchill were charismatic and gave good speeches and had much more popular support around the world.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 12:50 AM
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590. That would be the point.
The Right Wingnuts continually characterize Obama as Hitler, and I thought this statement from the Nobel Committee provided an excellent data point making the Right's nonsense all the more laughable.
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Piewhacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 05:15 AM
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124. Oh eM Gee. Applause! (sound of Billous Bachwack Beckerhead exploding.. bwhahahaha)
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RFKHumphreyObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 05:24 AM
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129. Congratulations President Obama
Very well-deserved! Well done! I couldn't be happier :party: :party: :toast: :toast
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 05:32 AM
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135. They are hoping if they give the US some positive reinforcement,
we won't elect another dumbass warmonger like Bush. I hope it works.

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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 05:46 AM
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146. And the last time they tried this they gave Jimmy Carter the same prize.
We all know how well that worked out.
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BklnDem75 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 07:31 AM
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252. Nice!
I didn't know Carter was president in 2002!
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AsahinaKimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 05:37 AM
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140. OMEDETOU GOZAIMASU Obama sama!
Edited on Fri Oct-09-09 05:38 AM by AsahinaKimi
What a nice surprise! Subarashi desuyo!
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Lars77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 05:43 AM
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143. Norwegian view..
As a Norwegian doing a bachelors degree on North America i have to say i am incredibly surprised.

OK, he's promised to make the world nuclear free (that won't happen), and he dropped the dangerous missile shield in Eastern Europe, but mostly i think this is about the climate crisis. The Nobel prize is usually handed out on December 10th, this corresponds with the beginning of the climate conference in Copenhagen a short flight from here. They might actually be putting pressure on Obama to come to Copenhagen and DO something. Still, this is completely unexpected and incredible.

Personally i would rather have gone for Anna Politkovskaya posthumously.


When Gore got it, Charles Krauthammer called it "The Kentucky Derby of the World Left" on Fox. Wonder what he's going to say this time...
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 06:16 AM
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170. They don't award it posthumously now
Is it possible to nominate someone for a posthumous Nobel Prize?

No, it is not. From 1974, the Statutes of the Nobel Foundation have stipulated that a Prize cannot be awarded posthumously, unless death has occurred after the announcement of the Nobel Prize. This happened in 1996 when William Vickrey died only a few days after the announcement of the Prize in Economics.

Before 1974, the Nobel Prize has only been awarded posthumously twice: to Dag Hammarskjld (Nobel Peace Prize 1961) and Erik Axel Karlfeldt (Nobel Prize in Literature 1931)

http://nobelprize.org/nomination/nomination_facts.html


(and both of those were people who had died earlier in the year of the award)
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Lars77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 06:26 AM
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177. hmm
Hmm didnt know that, that's a shame. Still, a very very strange decision.
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Blandocyte Donating Member (830 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 06:33 AM
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185. American view
As an American doing a great degree of work trying to find anything our leaders have done in the past 9 years that I can be proud of, I have to say I am incredibly pleased.
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Ghost of Tom Joad Donating Member (651 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 05:46 AM
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145. I guess
the world doesn't reject Obama after all.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 05:48 AM
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148. Wow! Congratulations, President Obama!
:toast: :bounce:

Suck on it, Republicans!
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davidpdx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 05:49 AM
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151. Just saw the news, WOW
I am floored, but I guess I shouldn't be that surprised. Congrats President Obama! What a huge honor.
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HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 05:53 AM
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153. Congratulations! And WELL DESERVED!
:toast:
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 05:56 AM
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157. Surely, there's been some mistake. It was meant for Bush and Cheney?
Edited on Fri Oct-09-09 06:01 AM by Joe Chi Minh
The brief eulogy was a dead give-away: "..... for his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and co-operation between peoples".
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 05:57 AM
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158. Good coverage of this on Al Jazeera English
Edited on Fri Oct-09-09 06:02 AM by Turborama
Watch it live here: http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now /


Better quality version here (the Livestation player is free): http://www.livestation.com/channels/3

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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 05:58 AM
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159. Bravo Mr. President!!
Wooo-hooooooo!!!!!!!! :toast:

Julie
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 05:59 AM
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160. Final slap at Dubya
with a world full of reasons to do it.
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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 06:03 AM
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163. I hope there are more slaps to come
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 06:37 AM
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193. I do too.
Prosecution would be nice.
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joeycola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 06:48 AM
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201. :-)
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 09:59 AM
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406. Not the FINAL slap. I would be so disappointed if there weren't more to come.
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MoJoWorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 06:08 AM
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164. Well deserved.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 06:09 AM
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165. OMG! Congrats Obama!
:bounce: :toast: :bounce: :toast: :bounce: :toast:
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willing dwarf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 06:11 AM
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167. All of the hopes and aspirations come rushing back
I didn't know I could be so moved again. I cried when I heard the news. He is such a symbol of hope for us all. Now please let this move him to end American hegemony, end the war in Afghanistan and find a way to make peace around the world.
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Union Yes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 06:16 AM
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169. Congrats Mr. Prez!
:applause: :patriot:

KNR
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Geek_Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 06:21 AM
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172. Wow only 10 Months in office and he wins a Nobel Peace Prize
Congratulations Barrack Obama! You make America Proud!

:patriot:
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Capt. America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 06:23 AM
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174. This will actually hurt him domestically. I can hear the talking heads and wingnuts saying,
"why don't you just become president of Norwegia (sic) if they love you so much".
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 10:23 AM
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433. Concern over the impact of wingnut "psycho talk" is one of the biggest mistakes
Edited on Fri Oct-09-09 10:27 AM by No Elephants
and wastes of time. We know they will say something nasty, no matter what.

You do the right thing and let the chips fall where they may. And, they are likely to fall in the right place, sooner or later.

A recent poll shows 9% approval of Republicans in Congress. That's out of a possible 100%. Not that Democrats have been stellar. But the constant obstructionism and negativity and rabid commenttary is not lost on Americans, nor is it welcomed by them.

But even if the world buys their crap, you still do the right thing and you still don't worry about what they will say.
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freddie mertz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 06:30 AM
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183. Congratulations are in order.
I hope he continues to be worthy of it.
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droidamus2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 06:35 AM
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188. Maybe?
Maybe some peoples confusion about why Obama was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize has to do with how the media in the good old US likes to focus on things like teabaggers and birthers. Usually when the President travels overseas they focus more on things like 'well he said X how do you think that will play with independents in the next election'. I have to admit I do not consider myself well informed on all his diplomatic and multilateral efforts outside of the US but I will take it for granted that those on the Peace Prize committee have looked to his efforts and have obviously found them worthy of this prize (oh and by the way I really doubt a bunch of Norwegians really care that much about the internal politics of the US)
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Submariner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 06:37 AM
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192. Suck on that Bush Family and all your neocon enablers
Now you are seeing a REAL, and ELECTED, president in action, unlike the ignorant Dumbya.

Congrats President Obama.
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Blasphemer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 06:43 AM
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196. Wow... totally unexpected... Congratulations to President Obama! nt
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joeycola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 06:45 AM
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198. Congratulatios President Obama. You do us proud.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 06:48 AM
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200. I think this is great, but really, little boots was an easy act to follow in this regard
the next president who even knew how to spell diplomacy was going to be a shoo-in.

not meant as a ding to Obama, but as a point to how Bush screwed up diplomacy worldwide for eight years.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 06:51 AM
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206. Pfft.
Obama is more than just "not Bush".
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 08:23 AM
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316. I KNOW. my comment is meant to belittle Bush, not Obama
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 07:42 AM
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257. You think the Nobel Prize is awarded on a curve?
:rofl: Good luck with that. :D
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 08:25 AM
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318. nope, I was meaning that Bush single handedly destroyed diplomacy, so anyone
who works at repairing it, DESERVES a nobel prize, but my point is that by breaking it, Bush guaranteed anyone next who repaired it would win one.

I'm not explaining myself very well, but hopefully you get my point.

for example, if Obama followed Carter, with his middle east accords, or Clinton, with his Dayton Peace Accords, I'm not sure the contrast would have been as striking.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 02:50 PM
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545. It is in a way. It is awarded by comparing the achievements of various
nominees and it is supposed to go to the person at the top of the list.

However, if no one's achievements are considered significant enough, it may not be given in a particular year.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 06:49 AM
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202. repigs heads are blowing up right now, ha!!
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 06:49 AM
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203. I know this is juvenile to say, but: Suck on it, Republicans.
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bread_and_roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 06:50 AM
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205. perhaps this will encourage Obama to ground the drones
- after all, it's a bit - unseemly? - for a Nobel Peace Prize Winner to be dismembering and incinerating infants and children as Commander in Chief?

However, it is good that he is being rewarded for starting no new wars and for pursuing diplomacy and for taking steps to gear down the arms race.

And I will enjoy the frothing and spitting from the trogdolyte RW as much as anyone else. Most especially, I'll enjoy the Insanities and their zombie followers having to deal - somehow - with the inescabibiity of EVERYONE with a functioning brain cell knowing that this is an utter repudiation of the last eight years of US policy under the illegitimate Junta.
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 06:52 AM
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207. Congratulations Mr. Obama. I am proud to have you as our President
and proud that I voted for you to lead our country.
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Bill McBlueState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 06:53 AM
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208. Giving the Nobel Peace prize to any sitting US official makes a mockery of the award
And it does nothing to stop this country's addiction to war.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 07:23 AM
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242. Who would you give it to and why this year?
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RoccoR5955 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 06:54 AM
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209. Here's to OUR President! Good job! n/t
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 06:56 AM
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213. What amazing news to wake up to! Congratulations to the POTUS.
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BlueMTexpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 07:02 AM
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218. Congratulations President Obama!
The world IS paying attention and doesn't allow itself to be so easily distracted by tea baggers and the latest other tempests in teapots as too many inside the US seem to be. This is positive reinforcement of the highest order.
Yes, it's early in his term and professional career generally and yes, there's still a long way to go to make this world a better place for us all. But he is making genuine efforts, especially after having inherited a legacy from *Co that was FUBAR. If anything, this award is even more popular outside the US, based on the coverage that I'm seeing on this side of The Pond.
I personally love this news especially after the hay that was made by the RW after Obama's efforts to assist with Chicago's Olympic bid were not successful ... I believed then, and see this now as more evidence that his willingness to put his prestige on the line then even when the odds were long (and they were!), only enhanced the world's view of him.

Hopefully, this award will help to stiffen the spines of some the Jellyfish and Bluedog Dems to support his domestic and foreign agendas, that is, if they can find their spines at all.
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jhain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 07:04 AM
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219. Imagine if he donated the prize to free health clinics
Edited on Fri Oct-09-09 07:06 AM by jhain
If he made an announcement that the prize money was going immediately to the clinics Olbermann is facilitating?- What a statement.

I am soo proud to be an American today!
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 07:04 AM
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220. Well that's beyond "good" good news.
n.t.
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Haole Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 07:05 AM
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221. Congratulations Mr. President!
:-)
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Joey Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 07:06 AM
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223. Congratulations President Obama! nt
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 07:08 AM
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224. Yaaaaaaaah!!!!
HoooooooooooooraY!!!!! :dem: :dem: :dem: :beer: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :party: :party: :party: :party: :toast: :toast: :toast: :hi:
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NikolaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 07:09 AM
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225. While I was a bit surprised to see this this morning,
given the fact that we are still fighting two wars and are talking about the possibility of escalation for one of them, the thought of wingnut heads exploding over this is a very happy one for me. I do understand where the committee may have been going with this. So, congratulations to President Obama and I hope that this award will encourage and embolden him to continue with and expand his diplomatic efforts around the world, including ending the wars we are currently engaging in in the middle east.
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kegler14 Donating Member (541 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 07:15 AM
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234. Heads exploding at FR alert!!!!!!
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 07:21 AM
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240. congrats to our President Obama!!!
Web
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missemc2 Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 07:23 AM
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243. too soon?
If he accepts the prize then I hope he gives a humble response. Could be that he represents the Hope and Promise of peace and that's why he won?
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galloglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 07:24 AM
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245. Oh, yeah?? Where's his burth certiffacut ??
:sarcasm:
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RedCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 07:30 AM
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Repugs are bat shit crazy and attacking forums everywhere.
Woo-hoo!
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The_Commonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 07:30 AM
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248. Congratulations, President Obama!
Who were the other nominees?
I surprised nobody else here has asked that question!
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The_Commonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 07:43 AM
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260. To answer my own question...
Apparently, they keep the list of nominees secret for 50 years.
I guess I'll never know who else was nominated, unless I live to be 97.
Which I doubt...

http://nobelprize.org/nomination/nomination_facts.html
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lolamio Donating Member (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 07:30 AM
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249. Congratulations, Mr. President. A very good choice. n/t
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kjackson227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 07:31 AM
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250. Congratulations to President Barack Obama. You deserve this prestigious award!
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 07:35 AM
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253. I have to wonder if the timing of this is to persuade him to withdraw troops from Afghanistan.
It would be quite ironic for a Nobel Peace Prize winner to send in more troops to fight a war that cannot be won.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 07:42 AM
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256. Hoping isn't doing. The Nobel committee has jumped the shark.
Sorry, but no one who is perpetuating two wars of choice needs to be winning the Nobel Peace Prize.
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snagglepuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 08:10 AM
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294. I agree though I hope another poster is right that the Nobel Committee did
this as a way to nudge him in the right direction. However if Obama decides to ramp up troops in Afganistan how will the Committee justify its decision?
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FriendlyReminder Donating Member (174 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 01:30 PM
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524. I applaude our President for winning this award BUT I certainly hope that
American policy is not being influenced or dictated by the Nobel committee!!! I think the President will not be influenced by this and will make the best decision on behalf of the American people.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 07:44 AM
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262. WOOT!
Edited on Fri Oct-09-09 07:45 AM by Odin2005
:woohoo:

Cheney's pissed I hear! :rofl:
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 07:45 AM
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265. boy, this thread is an epic opportunity to
really polish up me ignore list. sheesh.


congrats to my main man. jeeeeeebus i love having this guy in the white house.
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Jester Messiah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 07:48 AM
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270. Hahaha! That should twist a few tails!
What's sad is that it may twist more tails here than it does on Freep.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 10:57 AM
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456. In several years of posting, I have noticed that the further left one is, the
Edited on Fri Oct-09-09 10:59 AM by No Elephants
greater the likelihood of posting on the issues. Conversely, the further right one is, the greater the likelihood of posting negative personal things about people with a view different from one's own.

Only among the right at DU, though, have I seen such zeal among Democratic posters for trashing other Democratic posters on an ad hominem basis. It shows up on almost every thread, something like a Tourette's tic.

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Jester Messiah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 11:57 AM
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488. I'm sorry, did you say something?
For a moment I was distracted by this horrible whining noise... oh, that was you? Pardons.
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euphoria12leo Donating Member (511 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 07:56 AM
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275. Congratulations Mr. President
I'm glad I have plenty to do today and all weekend and I don't have to listen to all the negative comments coming from all sides
apparently. Still I say congratulations!!


:bounce: :woohoo: :woohoo: :bounce: :toast:
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 07:57 AM
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277. Michael Savage was runner-up
followed by Orly Taitz
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 07:58 AM
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278. Does this mean Obama will do the intelligent thing and pull us out of of Afghanistan
Edited on Fri Oct-09-09 07:58 AM by brentspeak
Like, tomorrow??
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grahamhgreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 09:50 AM
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394. I think this makes it easier for him to do so!
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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 09:59 AM
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407. Or it makes it easier for him to not. nt
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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 10:26 AM
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436. touche!
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grahamhgreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 09:45 PM
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582. Escalating a war after getting a peace prize would be kind of slimy! Even war pig like, IMHO. nt
Edited on Fri Oct-09-09 09:46 PM by grahamhgreen
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katkat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 07:59 AM
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279. Who should have won it
The U.S. voter. That's what we were voting for. Whether we'll get it or not is still up in the air.

Still, gotta love the thumb in the Repigs eyes.

Sometimes the Nobel is given to protect people like peace activists from their repressive regimes. I wonder if in this case it has been given to wake Obama up a little to what he promised.
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jakeXT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 07:59 AM
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280. When Obama was president elect and Israel had a war going on in Gaza
what did Obama say? I can't remember much.
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mountainvue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 08:00 AM
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281. Haha...Take THAT Saturday Night Live. n/t
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 08:02 AM
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282. Congratulations!
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 08:03 AM
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285. Awesome accomplishment so early on! I bet FR is sh**ing bricks!
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sallyoh Donating Member (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 08:03 AM
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286. "Wow" I guess Gibbs summed it up. How can anyone not be proud that this man is our President?
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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 08:14 AM
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300. +1 and he single-handedly turned this country's vision of itself during the course of the campaign

does anyone not believe that even as a candidate he transformed where this country was heading and then, after navigating the ship through the obstacles thrown at him, jumped onboard to carry her safely out to sea to continue her voyage into the future. The campaign and the rhetoric he used even while being attacked (left and right) was truly of the nature you'd see from a Peace Prize winner.

He turned the other cheek during the harshest of attacks from both sides of the aisle and continued to look forward and not dive into the mud of typical US Presidential Politics. I don't think the committee could have missed this during the years of work on the campaign trail.
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sallyoh Donating Member (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 08:01 PM
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576. absolutely right. your point is the best and most poignant here yet. eom.
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 08:33 AM
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327. That's how I feel too.
I cried on election night, tears of joy. I was beside myself with glee on the day Obama was sworn in and I smile very proudly at the honor bestowed on him now.

I really do believe the world if giving us a second chance because we elected this guy President. Bravo!

Julie
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 06:47 AM
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592. ask the repukes - after you put their heads back together from exploding...
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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 08:07 AM
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288. very few sitting presidents have ever received this honor - poor Repubbies, they must be crwyyying!

This oughta make their entire week!

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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 08:28 AM
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321. Didn't Georgie Porgy win the Nobel War Prize? nt
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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 09:13 AM
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358. Yes, but the War Prize was a shoe to the face - he picked it up in person as you recall
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Jemmons Donating Member (407 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 12:03 PM
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491. He came quite close to winning it in fact
Regrettably or fortunately depending on your view the Norwegians came to the conclusion that he was just not cool enough for the Nobel Price.


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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 12:32 PM
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503. The War prize? How do you feel about it? nt
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Jemmons Donating Member (407 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 01:15 PM
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520. Like celebrating a victory for wisdom and intelligence
No, the Nobel Price. Just mocking Bush for the heck of it.
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 05:26 PM
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561. LOL Love that pic!
Many lolz. ;-)
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RubyDuby in GA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 08:09 AM
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290. Quite frankly, if they wanted to give out an award for not being Bush, it should have gone to
the American People for overwhelmingly repudiating the ways of Bush and the Republicans.

Don't get me wrong. I'm thrilled that the Nobel Committee sees that Obama is trying desparately to get us back on track and foster a sense of global cooperation, but it really does seem that this is becoming the Not George W. Bush Award.

With that said, I can't wait to see the photo of him standing with previous winners President Jimmy Carter and VP Al Gore. I think that one will get framed and go on our walls next to the inauguration photo.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 08:10 AM
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291. Congrats to Pres. Obama - may peace spread now, and the wars end soon.
and tip of the cap for getting nuclear disarmament further along.

:applause:
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maxpower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 08:10 AM
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292. Congratulations Mr. President
Keep up the good work.



Peace,
Max
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RoadRage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 08:10 AM
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293. WOOT! WOOT! WOOT!
Glad to see that the rest of the world respects and admires our president.. even if 47% of American's are far to stupid to recognize it themselves.

The shame is on those 47%, not on us!

Congratulations President Obama!
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Skinner ADMIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 08:11 AM
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295. YEAH!
That is awesome! GOBAMA!
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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 08:13 AM
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298. The sound you just heard........
is the far right collectively shitting their pants.
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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 08:15 AM
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303. I love the sound of wingnut heads exploding !!
n/t
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 08:16 AM
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304. WONDERFUL!
:party:
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 08:18 AM
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309. I'll never forget the worldwide joy the night Obama won the presidency.
That was a global healing event in itself!

I understand why he has won the Nobel.

CONGRATULATIONS TO THE 44TH PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, BARACK OBAMA!
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newtothegame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 08:19 AM
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310. Dude I want that easy of a life. President after less than a term as senator, Nobel Peace Prize...
after 9 months!
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 08:33 AM
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325. Yep, you know the saying:
"No one ever went broke underestimating the stupidity of the American public."

I guess that it also applies to the Nobel Prize Committee.

:eyes:
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newtothegame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 08:53 AM
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344. How is the American public stupid for supporting President Obama's peace prize?
:shrug:
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katkat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 09:08 AM
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350. Beacool
Still in a snit, are you, about Hillary not winning? Especially when she dodged all those sniper bullets.
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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 10:29 AM
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438. bwahahahahaha -

thanks for the reminder. too funny.
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 06:47 PM
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568. He should have worked as hard as Hillary did...
It must have been a Herculean task to ride her husband's coattails. :eyes:
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 06:49 AM
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593. Wow - there have been a lot of ignorant things said here - but YOU take the cake...
what a fuck you are...
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katkat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 12:42 PM
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510. "easy a life"
Edited on Fri Oct-09-09 12:44 PM by katkat
Father deserted the family, Mom and kid on food stamps. Getting up at, what was it, 4 a.m. to study. Yeah, that's easy.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 08:19 AM
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311. Ooophs, right-wing propaganda machine ignored Norway!
LOL
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Kokonoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 08:20 AM
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312. Obama is the world's leading spokesman of values and attitudes shared by the majority of the world.
:kick:
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 08:24 AM
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317. I guess congratulations are in order, BUT...................
Precisely for achieving WHAT has he won the Nobel Peace Prize? Good intentions????

More of our troops have died in Afghanistan this year than in Iraq all of last year.

There are a slew of people more deserving of the Nobel Peace prize than Obama, at least at this point in time. If anything, he deserves a gold star in his report card for good intentions but not much more.

:crazy:
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 04:46 PM
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556. Don't knock "good intentions"
They're the reason your boy Bill is getting a pass from some of the GLBT community for ushering in DADT/DOMA. 'He screwed over the GLBT community, but his intentions were good!'

Don't go setting a double standard, now.

:rofl:
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horseshoecrab Donating Member (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 08:26 AM
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320. Unbelievably wonderful news!

This is so fine!


horseshoecrab
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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 08:32 AM
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324. Where's the breaking news thread that Cheney exploded --spewing
dark matter-- when he heard the news?

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mulsh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 08:33 AM
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326. On to the Oscars. Mr. Obama and his team are realigning our
country's diplomatic efforts, jettisoning many of the most toxic Reagan-Bush policies, and consistently sending a clear message to the rest of the world that the game is changing. Even when I disagree with their plans I feel much more secure with this team than their predecessors.
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Dora Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 08:34 AM
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328. !!!!!!!
:yourock:
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man4allcats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 08:40 AM
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331. Cleanup on aisle 4. Freeper heads exploding like crazy.
I never go to FreeRepublic, but it's got to be a real mess over there right now. Somebody bring a mop and a bucket. }(
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Abacus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 09:41 AM
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385. I just visited FR for the first time in months; it's pretty entertaining at the moment..
:popcorn:
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erpowers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 08:42 AM
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332. Bad Decision
I know some on this website will criticize me and claim that I must not be an Obama supporter, but this is not about Obama it is about the Nobel Peace Prize. Obama does not deserve this award. First he has not done anything to deserve this war. Second, he has expanded one war, will most likely expand that war again to a certain degree, and will likely expand the war in Pakistan. Third, this is also the guy who threatened to not provide campaign funding and campaign support to members of his own party if they voted against a war spending bill. That is not the person to whom you give a Nobel Peace Prize.
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demoleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 08:44 AM
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334. great. and this means more commitment for him. love this news. +1 n/t
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Love Bug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 08:46 AM
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336. Thrilled to recommend!
Unexpected, but woo-hoo! :bounce:

Some of the comments on this thread are proof that even in spite of our best efforts not to be influenced by the M$M, they are slowing effecting with their negativity. Sure, Obama has not pleased all of us and we have quite a ways to go with Iraq and Afghanistan but the world seems to have a different view. They have more hope than we at DU seem to. Why is that? Is it because the fight for HC reform and the economy is wearing us down?

Whenever Obama does (or doesn't do) something that I don't like I just remind myself that he, on his worst day, is still going to be better than Bush on his best.

Congratulations President Obama and well done, Nobel committee!
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 08:48 AM
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340. I can't believe I'm watching CNN and it isn't the Top Story; Charlie Rangel is! & some murder! WTH?!
Edited on Fri Oct-09-09 08:49 AM by WinkyDink
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 08:50 AM
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341. I am thrilled for Pres Obama and for all the possibilties for future peace that this will present .
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 08:51 AM
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342. A/P Headline: "Analysis: He won, but for what?" I cannot believe our media.
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 02:16 PM
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541. its a legitimate question.
What the heck did a President who's involved in escalating two wars win a Nobel Peace Prize for? Its ridiculous.
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workinclasszero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 08:56 AM
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345. I am SO PROUD of my President!!!!!!!
Congrats to President Obama! :patriot: :fistbump: :yourock: :pals: :grouphug: :loveya: :toast: :party:

Matt 5 ver 9: Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called sons of God. O8)



Lots of freeper republican church goers heads are exploding right about now I bet! :rofl:
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change_notfinetuning Donating Member (750 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 09:08 AM
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351. Nobel Committee: Audacity. Driving right wing nutjobs crazy: Priceless! n/t
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 09:10 AM
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353. Updates
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 09:34 AM
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379. Thank you. Very informative. nt
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kid a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 09:16 AM
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361. proud to be 300 rec - congrats President Obama! Now on to STRONG PUBLIC OPTION in MT
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katkat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 09:17 AM
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362. Here's why he won it
Upon further reflection, and because it's easy to be super-focused on healthcare to the exclusion of all else:

1. Dramatic change in the U.S. view of the world, courtesy of Obama's campaign and the U.S. voter. We forget the magnitude of this.

2. Talking to Iran rather than starting another war.

3. Talking to Cuba and loosening travel restrictions.

4. Not smart mouthing off about the rest of the world and embarrassing the country by displaying massive ignorance of and disdain for foreigners.

5. At least something partly sensible about the missile shield.

6. Trying to wind down Guantanamo.

7. Starting to wind down Iraq.

Yes, there are a bunch of things on the other side of the peace scoresheet - Afghanistan, torture, the Israelis. But the above is actually a significant list.
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Lifelong Protester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 09:46 AM
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390. It is a good list, and here's another point I'd like to add
we Americans need to look OUTSIDE of the US, our opinions, beliefs, wants, needs, etc. and understand that this is a prize awarded by, if you will, OUTsiders looking at the merits of a person. I think our president is even more of an inspiration outside of our borders than we imagine. We are like a family, sometimes, that keeps sniping back and forth about things, and are too distracted by our own sniping to see the true qualities of the family member we are sniping about.

Is it a premature award? Who knows. I think the committee was sending a strong message on looking FORWARD. President Obama personifies "hope" and "forward thinking", even as he is deciding how to unwind and clean up the mess he has been left.
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Chemical Bill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 09:18 AM
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363. I would have given it to him...
just because we don't have to be ashamed to be American if we travel overseas anymore.

Bill
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Stellar Donating Member (251 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 09:19 AM
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364. I woke up this morning and heard a loud noise
It was nothing more then wing nut heads exploding.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeOqHwX7URA
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 09:21 AM
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369. K & R
:thumbsup:
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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 09:38 AM
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381. If he really wants to make the wingnuts explode, he should accept it 'on behalf of Ted Kennedy'
or honorarial words to that effect
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 09:45 AM
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388. It would be like one large zit exploding.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 10:46 AM
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448. He did not mention Kennedy by name, but he accepted on behalf of just about everybody, incl. all
Americans.
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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 12:51 PM
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512. yup, and I laughed when Glenn Beck said HE should have gotten it for 9/12 Project - laughable
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Torn_Scorned_Ignored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 09:38 AM
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382. I cannot let this thread
go by without saying I do not think it is so great that this president has won the Nobel Peace Prize.

I do have a profile here and nothing in my life has changed since this president has taken an oath to protect and defend the constitution.

I also have copies of emails I've written him regarding the circumstances in my life, I've gotten No Response.

If this president deserves a Nobel Peace Prize I'd like some response from him about the violations to my Constitutional Rights and The Universal Declaration of Human Rights. I'd also like to know what he thinks about what I consider Threats from the prior administration.

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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 09:38 AM
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383. Obama's presidency began less than two weeks before the Nobel nomination deadline.
Obama's presidency began less than two weeks before the Nobel nomination deadline.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091009/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_o...
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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 09:42 AM
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386. thank God someone nominated him early on so he could win - glad you found that

good news!
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 09:41 AM
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384. I don't think we, here, have any idea how destructive Bush was to our image abroad
We all know the rest of the world was much more aware of the abuses of our government around the world than we were at home. And I think we have no idea how much the rest of the world sees President Obama as bringing us back from the brink of becoming a dictatorial evil empire. The committee likely saw President Obama's diplomatic efforts as a significant turning point in the world. I don't think we see how much he has changed the trajectory, blinded as we are by the biased reporting of the MSM.
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 09:42 AM
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387. Wow, now it really puts the pressure on him.
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grahamhgreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 09:47 AM
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391. Yay! Some Behind the scenes in Copenhagen? They R trying to encourage him to de-escalate the war-for
Edited on Fri Oct-09-09 09:55 AM by grahamhgreen
war-for-profit in Iraqistan, I rekon.

Let's hope it works!

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sonias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 09:53 AM
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396. Congratulations Mr President
Well played!

:applause: :toast: :bounce:

:woohoo:

Sonia
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 09:54 AM
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397. Congrats!
No, Obama hasn't been perfect at least to this anti-war progressive - but the international community was striving for U.S. leadership in a positive direction, and the President has given some. He's talked to dictators, ended torture policy, called for nuclear disarmament, and has been open-minded in the Israel/Palestine situation. I'd like him out of Iraq now and starting to get out of Afghanistan, but there are signs he's listening to Biden's better idea.
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BEZERKO Donating Member (564 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 09:55 AM
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398. I was a little stunned by this, but hey...
whatever! The "Not George Bush Award," I like the sound of that. There really needs to be an anual "Not George Bush Award," for liberal political leadership.
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 09:55 AM
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400. Amazing... Not Expected, AND I'm SURE REPUKES Are Doing MORE Than
scratching their heads!! GREAT slam-dunk ON THEM!! Will it shut them up or not???

If listening to C-Span this AM is an indication, there was so much venom from Repukes commenting there! It has BROKEN many of their (I was going to say heart) but rather will say venomous EGOS!!

GOOD for Obama, I'm sure it was as much a surprise to him too! He was nominated 12 DAYS after taking office and I don't think they thought much of it at that time!

THIS IS GOOD FOR AMERICA!! Take that you LIMBALLS, BECKERS and the like!! Can't WAIT to hear THEIR comments AND how THEY are going to TWIST it!

No time to argue about this here at DU, even from many of us who have certain beefs with some policies!

Maybe not Chicago... but this is smack down for the REPUKES! LOVE IT!
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 10:03 AM
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409. That's another reason I love it
That their Bush DIDN'T get it!

Obama's actually been the best President on international affairs since JFK IMO.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 10:04 AM
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412. They are whining "WHY NOT REAAAAAAGAN???"
They think the rest of the world loved that loser as much as they do...
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 10:30 AM
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439. THAT Would Be Ronnie RAY-GUNS From My Perspective!!! n/t
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AllyCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 10:14 AM
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423. They'll continue their war-mongering against him and all "liberals"
but you have to wish you were a fly on the wall when they first heard the news !
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 10:28 AM
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437. You BETCHA!! Pun INTENDED!!! n/t
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MoonlitwingsX Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 09:57 AM
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403. Hardcore repubbies are still celebrating Obama's Olympic loss ...
..And saw it as their one ray of hope in thinking the entire world has suddenly turned its back on him.. Getting a nomination for the Peace Prize will likely put a fucking cork in that little celebration, which amuses me to no end!
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 10:01 AM
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408. I am in tears.
Congratulations President Obama!
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 10:04 AM
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411. If you look at it from the World's point of view (not the US's) it makes sense
Bush practically got us started on a new Cold War. Already, we were building bigger and bigger nukes, like it was 1963 all over again.

Obama, as a Senator, fights this tooth and nail. Then, once elected, starts shrinking our nuclear arsenal.

Big time.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 10:06 AM
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414. An awesome and wise choice.
Congrats to President Obama.
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 10:10 AM
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416. seems that the Nobel committee is giving Obama some ammo . . .
to strengthen his foreign policy hand, which they see as focused on peace and international cooperation and understanding -- in dramatic contrast to his predecessor . . . it's a stretch, and perhaps a bit permature, but good for them . . . and congrats to Obama for turning the Bush approach to international relations on its head -- even if he still has a long way to go to see the real fruits of his efforts . . .
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 10:15 AM
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424. Party!
:D
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JaneFordA Donating Member (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 10:15 AM
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425. Is that a giant suckin' (up) sound I hear coming from Oslo?
What has Obama actually done... besides talk? And talk? And talk? I'm glad the Europeans are fond of him; he's probably going to need some support and comfort after he sells out rank-and-file Democrats on health care.

How long did it take Jimmy Carter to receive his prize? And Al Gore? There's a real record there of accomplishment--not just a lot of words.

Later on, Obama may deserve this prize. But this isn't that time.



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gopiscrap Donating Member (418 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 10:16 AM
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426. Congratulations Mr. President
Edited on Fri Oct-09-09 10:16 AM by gopiscrap
Watch the freeper heads explode!!!
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 10:16 AM
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427. Congratulations, Mr. President
America is proud again.
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 10:18 AM
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429. Rec - Congratulations, Mr. President
Edited on Fri Oct-09-09 10:20 AM by CakeGrrl
As expected, a classy and humble statement from him.

CNN chryon said the announcement "polarizes the web". I suspect that's true right here.
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av8rdave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 10:19 AM
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430. Congratulations, President Obama!
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 10:39 AM
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444. Fantastic!
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 10:42 AM
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445. I'm so proud of our President!
This is only the beginning of what this wonderful man will do for the US and the world!

Congrats Mr President! May more Peace Prizes come your way in the future!
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 10:47 AM
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449. A nice surprise. I am happy. I pray that this recognition leads to an end
of our war in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq. Let him listen to and hear the little people - let them have more than a meager existence. Let them dream of a better life. And that now includes most of the people in the U.S. who are joining others of a common plight. It all evolves around the earth and sky resources of each country - let the people own it. Stop the spreading of ownership through corpacracy.

WE WILL NOT AND CANNOT BE OWNED BY CEO'S AND STOCKHOLDERS AND A BOARD OF DIRECTORS!
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Mulehead Donating Member (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 10:47 AM
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450. From Wikipedia:
The Nobel Peace Prize has sparked controversy throughout its history. The Norwegian Parliament, which appoints the Peace Prize Committee, has no say in the award issue. Critics argue that the same Parliament has pursued partisan military aims. A member of the Committee cannot at the same time be a member of the Parliament, and the Committee includes former members from all major parties, including those parties that oppose NATO membership.

Unlike the scientific and literary Nobel Prizes, usually issued in retrospect, often two or three decades after the awarded achievement, the Peace Prize has been awarded for more recent or immediate achievements taking the form of summary judgment being issued in the same year as or the year immediately following the political act. Some commentators have suggested that to award a peace prize on the basis of unquantifiable contemporary opinion is unjust or possibly erroneous, especially as many of the judges cannot themselves be said to be impartial observers. In pro-democracy struggles, it may be said that the 'real' peace-makers may not be recognized for their long-term or subtle approaches. However, others< have pointed to the uniqueness of the Peace Prize in that its high profile can often focus world attention on particular problems and possibly aid in the peace-efforts themselves.[br />
On closer inspection, the peace-laureates often have a lifetime's history of working at and promoting humanitarian issues, as in the examples of German medic Albert Schweitzer (1952 laureate), Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., an African-American civil rights activist (1964 laureate) and Aung San Suu Kyi, a Buddhist nonviolent pro-democracy activist (1991 laureate). Still others are selected for tireless efforts, as in the examples of Jimmy Carter and Mohamed ElBaradei. Others, even today, are quite controversial, due to the recipient's political activity, as in the case of Henry Kissinger (1973 laureate), Menachem Begin and Anwar Sadat (1978 laureates), Mikhail Gorbachev (1990 laureate), Yitzhak Rabin and Yasser Arafat (1994 laureates), or Barack Obama (2009 laureate)<10>.

A criticism of the peace-prize are the notable omissions, namely the failure to award individuals with widely recognized contributions to peace. The list includes Mahatma Gandhi, Herbert Hoover,Corazon Aquino, Pope John XXIII, Pope John Paul II, Dorothy Day, Csar Chvez, Oscar Romero, Jose Figueres Ferrer, Steve Biko, Raphael Lemkin, Abdul Sattar Edhi, and Irena Sendler. In particular, the omission of the Indian leader Gandhi has been widely discussed, including public statements by the various members of Nobel Committee.<11><12> It has been acknowledged by the committee that Gandhi was nominated in 1937, 1938, 1939, 1947 and, finally, a few days before he was murdered in January 1948.<13> The omission has been publicly regretted by later members of the Nobel Committee.<11> In 1948, the year of Gandhi's death, the Nobel Committee declined to award a prize on the ground that "there was no suitable living candidate" that year. Later, when the Dalai Lama was awarded the Peace Prize in 1989, the chairman of the committee said that this was "in part a tribute to the memory of Mahatma Gandhi".<14> Day has also been acknowledged as having been nominated for the Prize:<15> in fact some biographers have thought her pacifism too radical for the Nobel judges.<16>
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 10:52 AM
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452. Awesome! I hope everyone reads the criteria for this choice....
... as you see the republican's heads explode today, it helps to understand the thinking in selection the President. The Award can be given to those that show potential in moving the world toward peace and understanding. Please remember that as you deal with the whackjobs like Michael Steele and your rabid co-workers, today.
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wpelb Donating Member (292 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 10:56 AM
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454. Too early in his term
Mr. Obama will be President for a minimum of four years (God willing, of course). The committee should have let him develop a record, not just promises that may or may not be difficult or impossible to fulfill.

Anybody can talk peace, but a record of accomplishing peace (ending wars, ending other conflicts, eliminating--or at least greatly reducing--poverty and other causes of wars) should be on one's rsum before being considered for or awarded the Nobel or any other peace prize.
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 10:58 AM
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459. Has NO ONE read WHY this was given to him and the criteria for the Prize?
I'm shocked that so many intelligent people have not read up on this. It was given for his potential for bringing about change and peace in the world, based on his initial works. The republican line today is that he hasn't earned it.. but the truth is, it was awarded to PROMOTE the direction he's moving in now toward peace.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 10:57 AM
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458. So what's he actually done?
Wasn't the nomination deadline in February? He had only been in office a month then.

I'm not slamming him or his efforts, but Nobel Peace Prize? Really?
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 11:02 AM
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462. Congratulations!
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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 11:03 AM
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463. how wonderful. Is this the first time a sitting president has been awarded this?
The thugs and their media outlets are going to wax apopletic with rage over this!!
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 11:18 AM
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474. 3rd time.
Theodore Roosevelt and Woodrow Wilson also won.
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Swede Atlanta Donating Member (906 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 11:09 AM
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465. Premature.........
I am truly glad he was recognized for his leadership in changing the American approach to foreign affairs including a recognition that we haven't always been right. I am also pleased to see his efforts on nuclear arms, helping to bridge the divide with the Russians, being open to dialogue with Iran, North Korea and others.

But I think the award is premature. I would have much preferred to see him be awarded this after he had a list of accomplishments, some small and some large. Right now aside from changing the tone, negotiating the release of the journalists from North Korea, opening dialogue with Iran and kick-starting the UN on the issue of nuclear arms, the actual tangible results aren't there. They are aspirational.
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Siara Donating Member (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 11:09 AM
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466. How wonderful

This is a recognition of the movement that generated Obama as much as to Obama himself.
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