Health Industry Concerned About Reform Measures-Warn That Dems Bills Would Leave Too Many Uncovered

[kpete]

Source: Washington Post

Health Industry Concerned About Reform Measures
Leaders Warn That Democrats' Bills Would Leave Too Many Uncovered


By Ceci Connolly
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, October 9, 2009

The industry heavyweights President Obama neutralized through the summer are agitating that the health-care bills in Congress violate agreements they made with the White House, leave 25 million Americans uninsured and have the potential to increase medical costs

One day after Democrats celebrated the news that a bill drafted in the Senate Finance Committee would not increase the deficit, the prospects for speedy enactment of landmark reform grew murkier. Industry leaders, who have held their tongues for months, spoke in increasingly dire tones Thursday about the impact of the Democratic proposals, raising the specter of an eleventh-hour lobbying campaign to defeat Obama's centerpiece domestic policy goal.

Many lobbyists and independent analysts underlined what they called major flaws in the Finance Committee's bill, saying it probably would draw the sickest, most expensive patients into the health coverage system without balancing the insurance risk with more young, healthy people. The result, they predicted, would be ever-rising premiums for the people, businesses and governments that pay for medical care.

"The consequences of this would be an upward spiral; rate shock to everyone who stays in," said Karen Ignagni, president of the industry group America's Health Insurance Plans. "This legislation will fail the test of affordability for individuals."

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[western mass]

1. Because the Health Industry is doing such a good job

of covering everybody right now.

[DJ13]

2. Damn, they're right

I guess an immediate move towards a single payer system is the only thing we can do to address their concerns.

Thanks for your input Big Insurance.

[No Elephants]

14. Did anyone send any single payer bill to the Congressional Budget Office

so that we could know what that would do to the budget and the deficit?

If not, why not?

Shouldn't each and all of us be asking our Representatives about that?

[thunder rising]

3. The concern ... is sooo ... fu@#$@ deeply moving. Don'tcha feel the love?

[laughingliberal]

5. I know I'm touched by their concern. Just makes me feel warm and fuzzy

:sarcasm:

[gateley]

4. "Health industry concerned..."

:spray:

[laughingliberal]

6. Hmmm. They held their tongues for months

And now the momentum is on the side of reform. They are talking ever rising premiums and rate shock if this passes. Just how is that different from what we see from them, now? Put the rate controls in place and tell them if they want to operate here they follow the rules. If they don't, we have a nice little HR 676 all ready to go. I don't think an eleventh hour lobbying campaign can defeat the reform now.

[no_hypocrisy]

7. You're uncovered if you can't afford health insurance premiums.

What difference does it make to them?

[DCKit]

9. They want everyone covered - by the government, if necessary.

Mandatory purchase if you can afford it (even if you have to quit eating), subsidies or a full government ride if you can't.

They have no intention of paying for care any more than they do now - the denials and rescissions will go on as usual. It's all about raking in the dough on 100% of the citizenry. 'Cause they care, y'know?

[Lasher]

10. Their greed has no limit.

And notice in the OP, they want the young healthy ones forced to buy their crappy high deductible catastrophic-only crap. At taxpayer expense if necessary, as you correctly assert.

[No Elephants]

12. And jail if the govt says you can afford, but you don't buy it.

Government mandates for private benefit are unacceptable.

We should all start throwing rotten tomatoes at effigies of Baucus.

[cabluedem]

21. Jail my @$$! I cant pay for it now. Free eats and HC and no taxes in prison. nt

[tomm2thumbs]

8. everyone else will get free clinics once a year in their state. and they better appreciate it

sarc

[No Elephants]

13. There are free clinics now.

[BR_Parkway]

11. Their concern is noted - single payer will take care of all the issues they raise

wouldn't that be a sweet bite in their ass if someone were to make that statement?

[joeycola]

15. even the Baucus bill left over half uninsured.

[joeycola]

16. even the Baucus bill left over half uninsured.

[progressivebydesign]

17. WTF? Then WHY are their LOBBYISTS funding the opposition???

What kind of bullshit PR game are they playing? The health industry is bankrolling all of those fake citizen groups that are targeting health care. This is all PR bullshit.

[newspeak]

18. yep, single payer solves the problem

I say what a brilliant deduction from the health insurance industry. I think we better get on that single payer issue right away. What say you, health insurance corps?

[Blue Meany]

19. I thought that must be from The Onion at first glance n/t

[KakistocracyHater]

20. Is This True About Contents in Swine Vaccine?

Dr. Mercola
September 11, 2009

What is in Swine Flu Vaccine?

Aluminum hydroxide
Aluminum phosphate
Ammonium sulfate
Amphotericin B
Animal tissue: pig blood, horse blood, rabbit brain, dog kidney, monkey kidney, chick embryo, chick egg,
duck egg
Calf (bovine) serum
Betapropiolactone
Fetal bovine serum
Formaldehyde
Formalin
Gelatin
Glycerol/human diploid cells (originating from human aborted fetal tissue)
Hydrolyzed gelatin
Monosodium glutamate (MSG)
Neomycin
Neomycin sulfate
Phenol red indicator
Phenoxyethanol (antifreeze)
Potassium dishophate
Potassium monophosphate
Polymyxin B
Polysorbate 20
Polysorbate 80
Porcine (Pig) pancreatic hydrolysate of casein
Residual MRC5 proteins
Sorbitol
Sucrose
Thimerosal (Mercury)
Tri(N)butylphosphate
VERO cells, a continuous line of monkey kidney cells Sim 41 Virus goes with it
Washed sheep red blood cells

Articles,mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2001/03/07
http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/health/vaccinations/news.php?q=1252
It's something I got in an email

[cabluedem]

22. Aluminum too huh? So we can end up like ronnie raygun? nt

[KamaAina]

23. And this has to do with the Congressional health care reform package how, exactly?

:shrug:

[bluestateguy]

24. They need to shutup and be grateful that they are being allowed to stay in business

Ingrates.

[sabrina 1]

25. Their concerns can be easily addressed. All we have to do to save

money, is eliminate them altogether. Why should one third of people's premiums go to pay for their expensive lifestyles? Speaking of the 'most expensive people'. And if 'Healthcare' is not meant to take care of the 'sickest', what IS it for?

Another way to eliminate wasted spending is to cut the military budget and start bringing American troops home from around the world. Just that would probably save more American lives than any other action the government could take.

So, eliminate private defense contractors and private health insurance corps and we would have no problem paying for the best healthcare system in the world.