Zelaya Says Honduras Government Plans Embassy Attack (Update1)

[Joanne98]

Source: Bloomberg


Sept. 23 (Bloomberg) -- Honduras’s ousted President Manuel Zelaya said the government of acting President Roberto Micheletti planned to storm Brazil’s Embassy in Tegucigalpa, kill him and call the death a suicide.

Zelaya, speaking during a telephone interview with Buenos Aires-based Todo Noticias television, said he hasn’t had any contact with Micheletti. He also said he made an “emergency” decision to seek refuge at the Brazilian Embassy.

Zelaya provided no explanation of how he learned of what he said were the government’s plans.

Milka Meza, employee in Micheletti press office, said the government has already said it won’t seize the embassy.


Read more: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601086&sid=aPChpnBb0Scw

[Vidar]

1. Unfortunately, this is all too possible.

[UTUSN]

2. No "emergency decision" would have been necessary if he had stayed away, and

if he hadn't been provoking his followers to congregate while daring the government to react.

[harmonicon]

5. ex-fucking-scuse me?!

The elected leader of a government should have stayed out of a country which he was removed from by kidnapping so that coup leaders could stay in power? You're saying that that's what should have been done? "The government" that you refer to is not the government. The government is elected by the people you call "followers", and this man is their elected head of state.

[IndianaGreen]

9. The 'government' as you called it is as illegitimate as Karzai and Ahmadinejad's regimes

The people of Honduras have had their freedoms curtailed since the coup.

[UTUSN]

11. Since I've respected you forever, I'll say this:

* The dude (timber harvester) tried to change the Constitution to stay in office longer.

What happened to the Old Rule (for ALL of us countries) that NEW rules don't apply to the persons in office when they are passed. Btw, I detest that BLOOMBERG changed the rule for himself, too.


* Supreme Court ruled against the dude.


* The Congress voted against the dude.


O.K., now, go ahead and rip all this stuff apart, as it has been done forEVAH!1

[Wilms]

12. There's your exact problem.

You think he tried to change the constitution so that he can remain in office.

This, despite the fact that Zelaya sought a vote this summer, to see if a question about convening a constitutional convention should be voted on during the upcoming presidential--an election he wouldn't be running in. If both initiatives were successful, a discussion about changing the constitution, or not, would follow the election.

So how could he stay in office?

You simply deny information, presented amply here, and buy into corporate media mems?

[SharonAnn]

16. The original constitution was written by the military and the oligarchy

in such a way that whoever was elected wouldn't ever really be able to change anything, ever.

The military and the oligarchy will always be in charge.

Zelaya asked for a non-binding referendum on whether a new constitutional convention should be held.

If it had passed by a large majority, it would've been a signal to the world that the Honduran people feel that they're not living in a democracy. The military and the oligarchy couldn't let that happen.

It's all about the money. The military and the oligarchy want to continue keeping all the money and denying democracy. That's all.

I've lived and worked there for a major multi-national corporation. I saw it first-hand.

[Wilms]

10. Actually, this wouldn't be an issue except for a coup.

Can you name a country in favor of the coup? A US politician, other than Hillary?

Probably not.

[UTUSN]

13. SoS CLINTON is not in favor of what you call the "coup." Why does your hatred make you SAY that?!1

Now, THAT said, "countrys" (including the U.S.) don't CARE about Honduras.

Senor Celaya is a TIMBER HARVESTER, one of those HORRID anti-environmentalist Capitalist-Exploiters-of-the-Indigenous-and-Earth people.


To review: 1) The dude tried to fake a Constitutional amendment to keep himself in office (eventually, FOREVER, like Huguito). (Why not, AFTER/not-applicable to HIM?!1)

2) The Congress and Supreme Court found this wrong and then ordered the military to remove him.

I repeat, other countries, including the U.S., DON'T CARE about Honduras.

[Wilms]

14. OK. So will talk about Hillary instead.

:shrug:

Oh. And I'm a hater, too. So we REALLY need to talk about something other than the facts. :eyes:

[UTUSN]

15. THAT's the ticket, WHO changed the subject? WHO brought up SoS?

As for your HATE, I can FEEL it for me, so what else do you want?!1

[Wilms]

18. I do appreciate, however, your

transparency.

[SharonAnn]

17. Sorry, you're wrong. 1. He asked for a non-binding referendum on a constitutional convention.

Whether or not there might have been one and what it might have covered is anybody's guess. But it would've perhaps given the people the chance to be involved in developing a constitution for themselves instead of living under the one written for them by the military and the oligarchy.

Second, the U.S. cares very much about Honduras. Aside from it's practically slave labor in the banana fields and the clothing manufacturers, it hosts large u. S. military bases that are very strategic to the U.S.

[roody]

19. Are you serious?

[bluesmail]

3. Just like Chile Sept 11, 1973?

Please history don't go repeating yourself.

[rabs]

4. Bloomberg is lagging badly on this story

Zelaya made his remark to the Buenos Aires TV station on MONDAY night.

Yesterday (TUESDAY) the golpista regime said it would not attack the Brazilian Embassy.

Today (WEDNESDAY) Bloomberg "updates" a MONDAY and TUESDAY story.

[Judi Lynn]

6. They control the whole country, have turned off the people's electricity everywhere,

so they can't hear any radio news, even if the radio stations got generators started. The coup has also been reported to have screwed with the phones.

Many of the people are too poor to be able to afford refrigators, so they buy what they plan to cook for dinner the same day, yet there's a curfew now, and they can be arrested, beaten, shot just being in the street trying to find food.

It's a calamity that these filthy scums are able to do this to the people of their own country which whom they clearly do NOT identify.

[Judi Lynn]

7. Curfew Extended in Honduras amid Riots

TEGUCIGALPA, Honduras, Sept. 23, 2009
Curfew Extended in Honduras amid Riots
Ousted Leader Zelaya Says Six of His Supporters Killed by Police; 113 Arrested


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Honduras's ousted President Manuel Zelaya speaks on a cell phone at the Brazilian embassy in Tegucigalpa Tuesday. Just one day since the daring return of the deposed president, the interim leaders who overthrew him struck back at Hondurans who have challenged their rule since the June 28 coup. (AP Photo/Esteban Felix)

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Honduras' ousted President Manuel Zelaya (bottom left) speaks to supporters from inside the Brazilian embassy in Tegucigalpa, Monday, Sept 21, 2009. Zelaya said he returned to Honduras Monday to reclaim his presidency, defying threats of arrest and summoning supporters. (AP Photo/Esteban Felix)

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Riot police officers shoot tear gas to supporters of Honduras' ousted President Manuel Zelaya during clashes in front of the Brazilian embassy in Tegucigalpa Tuesday. Baton-wielding police fired tear gas at thousands of demonstrators Tuesday morning, chasing them away from the Brazilian embassy where their deposed president, who snuck back into the country, remains holed up, avoiding threatened arrest. (AP Photo/Esteban Felix)
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Curfew Extended in Honduras amid Riots
(CBS/AP) Honduras' interim government extended an already long curfew through most of Wednesday after police skirmished with backers of ousted President Manuel Zelaya throughout the night and arrested more than 100 people for vandalism and looting.

Zelaya remained holed up with a shrinking core of supporters at the increasingly isolated Brazilian Embassy in Honduras. Diplomats and activists streamed out of the compound late Tuesday, and Brazil urged the U.N. Security Council to guarantee the embassy's safety.

The country remains shut down under the nearly round-the-clock curfew decreed by the interim government that ousted Zelaya in June. Airports and the border crossings also were closed for a third day, after a night of violence.

Zelaya said six of his supporters died in confrontations with police. Authorities denied that and said one person suffered a gunshot wound. Officials did not give further details.

Police arrested 113 people on various charges.

Zelaya's backers ventured out at several points in Honduras' capital to skirmish with police, after hundreds of their colleagues were routed by baton-wielding soldiers from the street in front of the embassy and police roadblocks sealed off the mission building Tuesday.

More:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/09/23/world/main5332099.shtml

[Judi Lynn]

8. Two Days After Honduran President Returns to Capital, Amnesty International Reports Rise in Police B

September 23, 2009
2:17 PM

Two Days After Honduran President Returns to Capital, Amnesty International Reports Rise in Police Beatings, Mass Arbitrary Arrests, Closing of Media Outlets, Harassment of Activists Since Coup

Human Rights Organization Cites "Alarming" Incidents, Including Police Tear Gas Attack Monday on Rights Organization in Capital

NEW YORK - September 23 - Amnesty International reported today that police beatings, mass arrests of demonstrators and intimidation of human rights groups have risen sharply in Honduras since the June coup d'etat, including the firing of tear gas at the building of a prominent rights group on Monday with 100 men, women and children inside.

Two days after President José Manuel Zelaya Rosales returned to Honduras following a June coup, Amnesty International warned that fundamental rights and the rule of law in the Central American nation are in grave jeopardy. According to reports received by Amnesty International on Monday morning, about 15 police officers fired tear gas canisters at the building of the prominent human rights organization COFADEH. Around 100 people, including women and children, were inside the office at the time. Many had come to denounce police abuses during the break up of a demonstration earlier outside the Brazilian Embassy in Tegucigalpa, where ousted Honduran President Manuel Zelaya has taken refuge.

"The situation in Honduras can only be described as alarming," said Susan Lee, Americas director at Amnesty International. "The attacks against human rights defenders, suspension of news outlets, beating of demonstrators by the police and ever increasing reports of mass arrests indicate that human rights and the rule of law in Honduras are at grave risk."

"The only way forward is for the de facto authorities to stop the policy of repression and violence and instead respect the rights of freedom of expression and association," said Lee. "We also urge the international community to urgently seek a solution, before Honduras sinks even deeper into a human rights crisis."

More:
http://www.commondreams.org/newswire/2009/09/23-13

[roody]

20. And they will do it with all those lovely weapons

from the USA and the training from School of the Americas.

[Judi Lynn]

21. Saw in a video the police have lobbed tear gas grenades from Peru at the people, too!

That has caused them to think Alan Garcia, who massacred the indigenous protesters in the Amazon a few months ago, is also involved in getting more weapons to the golpistas.

Garcia had a couple of massacres on his record his first term as Peru's President. He's really racking them up.

And, there are soldiers from Honduras going through training at the school of assassins currently.

[roody]

22. Weren't the ones from Peru made in the US?

[Judi Lynn]

23. Wouldn't be surprised. I found the video, here it is:

It's included in this article:

What Some US Reporters Don't Get About Brazil and the Honduras Crisis
Posted by Al Giordano - September 23, 2009 at 11:17 am
By Al Giordano

http://narcosphere.narconews.com.nyud.net:8090/userfiles/latuffzelaya-field.jpg
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We can also see in that video the revelation that the tear gas canisters shot by the National Police yesterday were stamped as property of the government of Perú, suggesting strongly that Peruvian President Alan García is a participant in smuggling arms to the Honduran coup regime. Something he will now have to answer for to the Organization of American States in general, and his neighbor Brazil in particular.

http://narcosphere.narconews.com/thefield/3450/what-some-us-reporters-dont-get-about-brazil-and-honduras-crisis

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