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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 06:24 PM
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CBS loses bid to dismiss Dan Rather lawsuit
Edited on Mon Sep-21-09 06:25 PM by cal04
Source: Reuters

A New York judge on Monday rejected CBS Corp's bid to dismiss former TV news anchor Dan Rather's $70 million lawsuit claiming he was fired over a controversial election-year report on former President George W. Bush's Vietnam War-era military service.

New York State Supreme Court Justice Ira Gammerman set a December 22 hearing in the case and directed that testimony be taken from witnesses, including Sumner Redstone, the chairman of Viacom Inc, which controlled CBS at the time.

"Let's get this case moving," Gammerman said. "I would really like to get this case ready for trial."

Rather, 77, sued CBS, its Chief Executive Leslie Moonves and former CBS News President Andrew Heyward for fraud over his firing from the network, his home for more than four decades, over the report on Bush's military record.

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/us_cbs_rather
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 06:27 PM
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1. All of these CEOs need to be held to account for their actions.
Sue them until they are broke.
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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 06:49 PM
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5. Unfortunately, they will not be individually held responsible...
They probably have it written into their contracts that they are indeminified.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 07:03 PM
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9. Tell that to Kenny Lay.
Or Bernie Maddow. Or lots of others.
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wroberts189 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 09:32 PM
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22. Yep. Which is exactly the problem with corporate "personhood"..


All of the rights... with no accountability.

I hope Rather wins. He says he will not settle out of court.
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tclambert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 02:53 PM
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52. "Corporations have neither bodies to be punished, nor souls to be condemned;
they therefore do as they like." - Edward Thurlow

I've heard it rephrased as: "Corporations have no souls to save, and no bodies to incarcerate."
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 06:28 PM
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2. Great news!
K & R :thumbsup:
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 06:30 PM
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3. Go get 'em Dan-o! nt
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 06:34 PM
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4. I hope Dan wins big time. Also the truth comes out about bu$h's missing 2 years.
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AlbertCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 06:51 PM
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7. Also the truth comes out about bu$h's missing 2 years.
The truth IS out....

He wasn't where he said he was. He was AWOL. A deserter. Period.
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lib_wit_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 07:03 PM
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8. Yes, but it never hurts to repeat the truth so that those who haven't yet heard it get the chance!
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 08:34 PM
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17. I know that and you know that, but the real world is still in denial.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 01:21 AM
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36. Only if you define "real world" as the 20 or 30% of Americans who are hard core Rethugs.
They would deny anything negative about their Party, even if they believed it.
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IDFbunny Donating Member (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 03:46 PM
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55. the real world knows but just doesn't care.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 10:49 PM
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32. This could be interesting!
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IDFbunny Donating Member (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 03:45 PM
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54. The truth IS out
the proof isn't.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 06:50 PM
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6. Good, now they get
started.
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Maccagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 07:08 PM
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10. Get them under oath, on the record etc etc etc
Edited on Mon Sep-21-09 07:14 PM by Maccagirl
Money is not the issue here-even though I'm sure Rather would love to win some jack. There's a lot more at stake here than Rather's rep. There is an opportunity for truth and justice-I want to know who set upRather and Mapes (the producer) . IIRC the White House was asked to comment/respond to the story before it aired and they basically said (wink wink) "Go ahead." Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Kind of Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 07:22 PM
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11. YAY! n/t
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crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 07:40 PM
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12. Excellent. I am SO rooting for Dan Rather in this case. n/t
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 08:09 PM
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13. Me Too (nt)
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robcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 08:09 PM
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14. Will Rather ever get tired of this lawsuit?
Never ending.
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wroberts189 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 09:33 PM
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23. No... he has stated quite clearly this is not about him and he will not settle. nt
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 01:25 AM
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38. Bizarre post.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 03:54 AM
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41. Yup, very bizarre.
There's a lot of bizarre going around on DU.
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 12:39 PM
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51. No kidding. He's probably one of those hypocritical
jerks who's against "frivolous" lawsuits ("frivolous" using his own definition, of course, and not really having much to do with the merits of a case) and wants limits on them UNTIL HE needs to file something. Then, of course, HIS lawsuit is never frivolous, oh, no. Been in the legal field long enough to see a LOT of hypocritical jerks like that.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 03:04 PM
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53. And we know for certain that
Dan's suit is anything but frivolous.

This fervor to end what some characterize as the frivolous law suit is a ploy to allow corporations to be even more abusive to both their workers and consumers. I believe we have traveled down that road just about as far as we can.
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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 10:39 AM
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49. no, and the very fact that he isn't giving up
shows that he was likely telling a truth which CBS did not want him to tell. The freepers all still think Rather tried to frame Bush with fake docs, but if Rather had done so knowingly, would he then spend so much time and money on this?
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BlancheSplanchnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 11:43 AM
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50. it's ok if you want to watch Faux
but you really shouldn't believe them.
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 08:16 PM
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15. Discovery should be AWESOME. nt
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Aragorn Donating Member (784 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 09:47 PM
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24. and public
very quickly, most likely.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 04:26 AM
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43. The rest of the media piled on against Dan - they'll have little interest in reporting the facts
of the case - they still haven't shared the important fact that the CBS panel 'experts' never found that document to be forged, but, the way they presented the case faulting the vetting gave rise to the narrative that the document was debunked. That...NEVER...happened.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 08:25 PM
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16. K&R for Dan!
CBS had best get into their bunkers. Dan, the man, is on a mission.

I love you, Dan Rather!
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mule_train Donating Member (611 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 08:47 PM
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18. This guy sliently went along with millions of Americans getting sent to the dumpster of 'free trade'
Edited on Mon Sep-21-09 08:49 PM by mule_train
and now we're supposed to shed tears to a multi millionare who loses his job at age 70+ ?

(and NO I do not think his reports about Bush were wrong - I just find it hard to cry that he still lives in part in the same world as the 'little people' he never gave a damn about)
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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 09:09 PM
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19. I am rooting for DAN and the truth of his real story to come to light
GWB did not serve and should have been dishonorably discharged - too many hands in the pot to help this useless man along to ruin our country - and idiots helped it along while those in power hid the truth as they still do
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 09:15 PM
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20. "Oh, shit." - xCommander AWOL (R)
Edited on Mon Sep-21-09 09:16 PM by SpiralHawk
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 09:51 PM
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25. Yeah - what gets lost in all this legal BS is that Rather's report was essentially true.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 01:30 AM
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39. Yep. That's why I think someone planted the computer generated version.
Very easy to "de-bunk" the medium. No one even bothered to try to de-bunk the story itself, though.

What would YOU do if your candidate went AWOL from the frickin' Texas Air National Guard and the opposing candidate was in a real unit and had a handful of purple hearts?
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 09:26 PM
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21. Yes.... Let's get this case moving....
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 10:00 PM
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26. score one for the good guys!!!!
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 10:07 PM
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27. GO DAN!
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 10:08 PM
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28. IT'S ABOUT TIME!
let's get this show on the road!

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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 10:28 PM
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29. Smilie
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 10:37 PM
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30. K&R n/t
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 10:48 PM
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31. CBS broke faith with their mission, and the American people.
Their news division bowed to political/economic pressure and let it skew their coverage of fact.

This is a defense of the role of the Fourth Estate. It's a noble cause.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 03:57 AM
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42. As witnessed by Katie Couric's
interview with Glenn Beck. Why would CBS lend credence to a raving lunatic?
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 10:57 PM
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33. Give 'em hell, Dan!
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 11:00 PM
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34. choke on it, CBS
it's about time they pay for their cowardice and breach of public faith
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 12:54 AM
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35. Check Six, Dan.
Always check your six.

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alp227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 01:23 AM
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37. Dan Rather: Fired for GOOD (but flawed) journalism
For much of his career, Rather was a suckup for the right-wing. This despite his well-known spats with Richard Nixon (1974 press conference) and George H.W. Bush (that infamous 1988 Evening News interview). These two incidents provided the right-wing noise machine with plenty of ammo to cry "LIBERAL BIAS!" But then the National Guard story came up, and BOOM! You couldn't believe how pissed off they were that CBS was pressured to drop Dan.
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road2000 Donating Member (995 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 02:55 AM
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40. Oh, Danny Boy,
Edited on Tue Sep-22-09 02:55 AM by road2000
The {ass}wipes are falling. May you beat the crap out of them.
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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 07:00 AM
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44. Redstone may have to testify over Rather suit
http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUSTRE58K57U20090922?feedType=RSS&feedName=domesticNews

Rather hopes to show Redstone wanted him fired. CBS lawyers argued that Redstone had no such recollection, and that deposing him would as a result accomplish nothing.

A representative for Redstone had no immediate comment.

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Mad_Dem_X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 07:14 AM
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45. Yes! Go, Dan!
Make those bastards accountable!
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 07:32 AM
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46. Go go to trial!
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 07:35 AM
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47. Great news!
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jeremyfive Donating Member (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 08:27 AM
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48. Good For Dan Rather
Although the letter was obviously a "plant" by Bush operatives, the fact that Bush went AWOL cannot be as easily dismissed. Lots of witnesses there.

Bush was a draft-dodger, and a poor one at that. A less-well-connected reversist would have been court martialed for such behavior.

Why should Dan pay for getting the facts out, even though hampered by a planted letter?
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sicksicksick_N_tired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 05:50 PM
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56. All my best to Dan! He knows this lawsuit means as much to us, as to him.
If he wins, there will be far more willing to roll the dice on fraud suits against these assholes!!! And, frankly, they deserve to have a slew of suits filed against them!!!
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