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Bacchus39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 03:30 PM Original message |
Venezuela: 'Freedom of expression must be limited' |
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bitchkitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 03:37 PM Response to Original message |
1. Eeeeeeek! n/t |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 06:49 PM Response to Reply #1 |
28. Indeed. |
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dorkulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 07:15 PM Response to Reply #28 |
33. Yes. It must be limited. |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 07:22 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. I have no idea what you mean. |
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sharesunited (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 03:41 PM Response to Original message |
2. You need to be able to do battle with words in the arena of political speech. |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-31-09 11:35 AM Response to Reply #2 |
57. ...because the alternative, eventually, is bullets 'n' bombs. n/t |
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Zorra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 03:42 PM Response to Original message |
3. "manipulate the news with the purpose of transmitting a false perception of the facts" |
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IDFbunny (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 03:44 PM Response to Original message |
4. "manipulate the news with the purpose of transmitting a false perception of the facts." |
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Bacchus39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 03:45 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. I wonder how the government media is going to comply, wait...nevermind |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 03:50 PM Response to Original message |
6. So, for example, openly supporting a coup would be prohibited? |
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Bacchus39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 03:57 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. how about prohibiting reporting on an earthquake?? |
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SOS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-01-09 05:55 PM Response to Reply #9 |
78. Venezuela ranks higher than US allies in press freedom |
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Truth Talks (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 03:51 PM Response to Original message |
7. We need some of that here in the U.S.! |
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Seldona (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 04:15 PM Response to Reply #7 |
12. We need government control of the media? |
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movonne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 04:26 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. I agree... |
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Truth Talks (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 07:11 PM Response to Reply #12 |
30. What's changed? |
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bitchkitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 07:13 PM Original message |
The news got to where it was today |
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chrisa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 07:50 PM Response to Original message |
43. You do see the problem with that, don't you? |
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Mudoria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 04:28 PM Response to Reply #7 |
14. You need better tastes in heroes.. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 04:29 PM Response to Reply #7 |
15. no thank you. and having politicians as heros is about as fucking moronic as it gets. |
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Truth Talks (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 07:13 PM Response to Reply #15 |
32. Chavez is no politician. |
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subsuelo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 07:24 PM Response to Reply #32 |
38. my friend |
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Ter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-31-09 01:33 AM Response to Reply #32 |
48. You're right, politicians believe in freedom and democracy |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-31-09 05:38 AM Response to Reply #32 |
49. oh for the love of reason. stop genuflecting to St. Hugo for a second, wipe |
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Truth Talks (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-31-09 07:28 AM Response to Reply #49 |
52. Funny... |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-31-09 05:15 PM Response to Reply #52 |
70. One more time. Asserting that Hugo Chavez is a visionary is not a fact, dearest. |
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bitchkitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-31-09 01:58 PM Response to Reply #49 |
65. That is very cynical. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-31-09 05:17 PM Response to Reply #65 |
71. Actually, it's an opinion based on an interpretation of his actions. |
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twitomy (756 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 04:58 PM Response to Reply #7 |
19. I'm sure Stalin is a hero of yours too... |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 05:09 PM Response to Reply #7 |
20. NONE MAY QUESTION OUR DEAR LEADER! |
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Dreamer Tatum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 05:29 PM Response to Reply #7 |
21. Mole nt |
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dorkulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 07:18 PM Response to Reply #7 |
34. I don't think "deregulation" means what you think it means. /nt |
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chrisa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 07:47 PM Response to Reply #7 |
42. Wrong. |
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Old Hob (296 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 10:08 PM Response to Reply #7 |
47. We have plenty enough already actually. There's lots of things I can't say that I would love to say. |
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Titanothere (198 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-31-09 09:12 AM Response to Reply #7 |
55. Please move to Venezuela |
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Regret My New Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-31-09 11:40 AM Response to Reply #7 |
58. Having fun? |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-31-09 02:59 PM Response to Reply #7 |
67. Please get out of my Democratic Party |
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Endangered Specie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-02-09 02:05 AM Response to Reply #67 |
79. They have the birthers, we have the Chavez freaks... |
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imdjh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 03:55 PM Response to Original message |
8. Paging a certain Italian sports car! Paging a certain Italian sports car! nt |
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Dreamer Tatum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 05:30 PM Response to Reply #8 |
22. Everyone knows the two most difficult languages to translate are |
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Throd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-31-09 01:23 PM Response to Reply #8 |
61. The Bat signal must be down today |
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DumpDavisHogg (255 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 04:04 PM Response to Original message |
10. Since the Venezuelan AG probably didn't say it in English... |
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Dreamer Tatum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 05:31 PM Response to Reply #10 |
23. Spanish and Farsi: very challenging languages to translate |
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SkyDaddy7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 04:14 PM Response to Original message |
11. Venezuela is going downhill fast!! |
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NYC Democrat (234 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 05:33 PM Response to Reply #11 |
24. some people here Worship Hugo as if was a god and believe (or rationalize) that he can do no wrong. |
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Dreamer Tatum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 05:38 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. It's worse than that |
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SkyDaddy7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-31-09 06:23 AM Response to Reply #24 |
50. Sorry to say... |
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Truth Talks (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 07:06 PM Response to Reply #11 |
29. Faster than the U.S.? |
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SkyDaddy7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-31-09 06:27 AM Response to Reply #29 |
51. WOW!?!? |
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IDFbunny (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-31-09 01:46 PM Response to Reply #11 |
64. The contempt for the freedom of speech |
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roakes10190 (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 04:45 PM Response to Original message |
16. limit on free speech |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 04:49 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. uh, no, it's really not. political speech in this country is the most highly protected form |
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RedCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 06:36 PM Response to Reply #17 |
27. Kent State? Jackson State? Orangeburg massacre ring any bells for you? |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-31-09 01:33 PM Response to Reply #27 |
63. How about this site? (nt) |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 04:54 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. That was a phrase used in a court case that allowed police to jail war protestors |
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RedCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 06:32 PM Response to Original message |
26. Lest we forget that media plotted a coup! Stop this yellow journalism now. |
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Regret My New Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-31-09 11:58 AM Response to Reply #26 |
59. Never forget 9/11.... WIRETAP! INVADE! BOMB! |
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Bacchus39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 07:12 PM Response to Original message |
31. will these restrictions apply to Chavez? He exercises free speech quite expansively |
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Truth Talks (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 07:22 PM Response to Reply #31 |
37. Oh, the irony... |
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Bacchus39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 07:27 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. as is your devotion to Hugo the fascist clown n/t |
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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 07:21 PM Response to Original message |
35. The AP is always lying about Venezuela. He probably said something else. |
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Dreamer Tatum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 08:09 PM Response to Reply #35 |
44. Then how come he doesn't say so? |
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Endangered Specie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-02-09 02:09 AM Response to Reply #44 |
81. The Guardian could come out with an article criticizing chavez... |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 07:40 PM Response to Original message |
40. Chavez is entering Stalin territory here. nt |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 07:43 PM Response to Original message |
41. Hmmm not good, if you cannot fight the media |
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Threedifferentones (820 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-31-09 07:35 AM Response to Reply #41 |
53. Not as big a difference as I would like, however, |
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JonQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 09:43 PM Response to Original message |
45. And yet people will still defend chavez, |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 09:53 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. Being incoherent won't get you far. |
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JonQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-31-09 12:32 PM Response to Reply #46 |
60. Perfectly coherent |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-31-09 02:54 PM Response to Reply #60 |
66. Indeed, an awesome display of rhetorical precision. |
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JonQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-31-09 04:21 PM Response to Reply #66 |
68. Oh dear, you're one aren't you? |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-31-09 04:55 PM Response to Reply #68 |
69. Forgive you for projecting a lot? |
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JonQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-31-09 09:02 PM Response to Reply #69 |
72. Not everyone who disagrees with me is a loon |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-31-09 10:44 PM Response to Reply #72 |
75. What about Ralph Nader? And Israel? Vaccines? |
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JonQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-01-09 04:56 PM Response to Reply #75 |
76. Oh don't worry, you weren't in trouble |
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Regret My New Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-31-09 09:20 PM Response to Reply #68 |
73. I don't think Chavez has any desire to exploit or oppress the people of Venezuela. |
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JonQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-01-09 04:57 PM Response to Reply #73 |
77. I think it's pretty obvious he's in it for his own benefit |
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UTUSN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-31-09 08:15 AM Response to Original message |
54. K&R #1, until the Huguito Brigade swamps the thread with UnRekkks!1 n/t |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-31-09 11:33 AM Response to Original message |
56. How ominous! |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-31-09 01:32 PM Response to Original message |
62. Now to see how many DUers decide the First Amendment's a bad thing... (nt) |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-02-09 05:56 AM Response to Reply #62 |
82. I didn't realize they had one. |
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ohio2007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-02-09 10:58 AM Response to Reply #82 |
84. "Rule by Decree" cleared up that issue. |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-31-09 10:32 PM Response to Original message |
74. Surely not the Chavez regime. |
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Endangered Specie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-02-09 02:07 AM Response to Original message |
80. ... and people wonder why Venezuela is suffering a brain drain |
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ohio2007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-02-09 09:43 AM Response to Reply #80 |
83. from the "Ministry of Truth" : People must not hear how bad things are going to get |
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