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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 12:26 PM
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Gunshots Fired At Holocaust Museum D.C. Police On Scene Of Shooting; No Confirmed Deaths
Edited on Wed Jun-10-09 12:40 PM by kpete
Source: CBS

(CBS) Gun shots were fired at the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington, D.C. Wednesday, FBI officials confirmed to CBS News.

D.C. police were at the scene responding to reports of gunfire, local authorities told CBS News.

Read more: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/06/10/national/main...



Breaking

Shooting at/in US Holocaust Museum in DC.

Late Update: We're getting scattered early reports. Eyewitnesses on the scene, reported by CNN, speak of five shots being fired inside the Museum. Another unconfirmed report says that one gunman is in custody and that either two or three people (including the gunman) were shot.

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2009/06/break...

Latter Update: Further reports suggest three victims of the shooting, one critical, in addition to the suspect who was apparently shot leaving the Museum.

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2009/06/break...

MORE:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31208188/
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 12:27 PM
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1. reports of one security guard and shooter both injured
third person injured by flying glass
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alsame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 12:28 PM
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2. CNN confused - first said security guard was killed, then
retracted saying they aren't sure if anyone was killed.
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 01:55 PM
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73. He is in critical condition
sad.

As the MSNBC reporter said: metal alarm is just that - an alarm. Once you go and start shooting, you don't care about the metal detector.
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 12:31 PM
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3. three wounded, one critical - Pete Williams, NBC
Edited on Wed Jun-10-09 12:32 PM by Bozita
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 12:32 PM
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4. Reporting 3 victims INSIDE the museum on MSNBC n/t
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Stuart G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 12:33 PM
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5. from Huff Post.......
Edited on Wed Jun-10-09 12:34 PM by Stuart G
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/10/holocaust-muse...

Shots were fired at the Washington, D.C. Holocaust Museum Wednesday. According to NBC News and Fox News, two people, one of them a guard, have been shot. The Park Police, according to MSNBC, have said three people were shot.

Police say the suspect walked into the museum with a rifle.

The shooting is believed to have taken place inside the museum, according to Park Police.

One person is in custody in connection with the crime.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 12:34 PM
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6. MSNBC reporting that the shooter had a shotgun
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 12:38 PM
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8. How??? Teh security there is TIGHT
You have to go through a security gauntlet before you get inside, and that was even prior to 9/11.
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X_Digger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 01:21 PM
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53. Looks like he shot the guard manning metal detector. n/t
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 01:56 PM
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76. Wondered about that, too, since we visited there last year
however as the reporter said: once you go in and start shooting, all the security detectors are meaningless..

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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 12:37 PM
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7. I've ALWAYS worried about this whenever I went there
ALWAYS.

They had major security/X-ray machines even before 9/11.
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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 12:48 PM
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9. from the AP:
Police: At least 2 shot inside Holocaust Museum

Police: At least 2 shot inside Holocaust Museum

Officials: At least 2 shot inside US Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington, DC

Staff
AP News

Jun 10, 2009 12:31 EST

Authorities say at least two people have been shot at the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington.

D.C. police spokeswoman Traci Hughes says a person walked into the museum with a rifle and shot a guard. Hughes says the shooter was also shot.

Hughes says the victims' conditions were not known. Both were being taken to a hospital.

U.S. Park Police gave slightly different information, saying three people had been shot.

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/news/2009/06/police_at...
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 12:54 PM
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10. Kick
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Jane Eyre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 12:59 PM
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11. MSNBC Breaking News: Reports of Shots Fired Inside Holocaust Museum
Source: MSNBC

No link yet, AP is reporting at least 2 people shot inside the Holocaust Museum.

No link yet.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 12:59 PM
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12. "INSIDE"?????
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Jane Eyre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 12:59 PM
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15. Yes
Reports are that someone had a rifle inside, at least two people shot. Early reports are that one person is a guard, but that has been retracted.

Now saying that three people were shot, one critical.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 12:59 PM
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19. How on earth do you get a rifle into the H Museum???
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Jane Eyre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 12:59 PM
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23. The guard was shot
Sounds like the shooter took down the guard and was then shot himself.
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 12:59 PM
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13. And they come out of the woodwork
Edited on Wed Jun-10-09 12:30 PM by sakabatou
Fucking hell... inside?!
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 12:59 PM
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14. Where? The one is Los Angeles?
They have been attacked before by Aryan Nation types.
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Jane Eyre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 12:59 PM
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16. D.C.
n/t
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rsmith6621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 12:59 PM
Response to Reply #11
17. Oh NO......Obama Is Not......



......Keeping us SAFER...... :sarcasm:
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Dogtown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 12:59 PM
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18. CNN reporting DC
just banner, no link.
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Jane Eyre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 12:59 PM
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20. Link up now
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X_Digger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 12:59 PM
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21. One suspect in custody (banner) n/t
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 12:59 PM
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22. That is just sickening
Edited on Wed Jun-10-09 12:35 PM by LeftishBrit
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 12:59 PM
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24. This NEVER happened!
:)
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 12:59 PM
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25. Deleted sub-thread
Sub-thread removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
LibertyLover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 12:59 PM
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26. A friend of mine works for the Holocaust Museum
As soon as I heard about this I called her immediately. She is fine, exhibition staff are in a seperate building, but in lock-down. They have been told that a guard was shot and another guard shot the shooter.
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alsame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 12:59 PM
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28. You must have
been so worried. :hug: I'm glad she's okay.

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LibertyLover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 08:13 AM
Response to Reply #28
119. Thank you.
Yes, it was not a good few minutes until she returned my call. She had picked up the voice mail and been sure that it was her mother., who she called preemptively after getting my message. Then she called me to let me know she was ok.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 12:59 PM
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27. how did the perp get the firearm past the metal detector? nt
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 12:59 PM
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30. Sounds like it was at the entrance just before the metal detector. nt
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Jane Eyre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 12:59 PM
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29. DCFD: Three Male Patients Taken to Hospital
One person is in custody in connection with the shooting. One patient is in critical condition. The DC police are reporting that the suspect walked in with a rifle and shot the guard.

It sounds like the shooter did not get very far inside the museum. The shooter seriously wounded the guard at the gate, then ran inside the museum until he was shot by another guard. There were school groups in the museum, all are safe. Several shots were heard by people in the museum.

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plumedserpent Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 02:54 PM
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87. Found An Incendiary Comment By Brunn On Yahoo Group
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Strong Atheist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 03:25 PM
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94. Welcome to DU!
:toast:
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X_Digger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 01:01 PM
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31. Shooter born in 1920??!?!
Sounds like senility.. wtf
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lxlxlxl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 01:03 PM
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34. craze
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Jane Eyre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 01:05 PM
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36. James W. Van Braun
That is the shooter's name. He has connections with white supremist groups.
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 01:06 PM
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40. You're good. Where are you getting the info feed?
Thanks! :)
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Jane Eyre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 01:08 PM
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44. MSNBC
Not quite sure I got the spelling exactly right on that name.
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X_Digger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 01:08 PM
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43. James W. von Brunn
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 01:10 PM
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Member of Mensa
Too bad he didn't put that intelligence to positive use. :-(
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Dennis Donovan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 01:22 PM
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56. Does the W stand for Werner?

A relative? :shrug:
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X_Digger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 01:29 PM
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61. Apparently W. stands for Wenneker n/t
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Candy Randy Donating Member (28 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 06:34 PM
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113. Was this a last hurrah?
Let's face it, Mr.Brunn may have received bad news from his doctor and he wanted to go down in a flame of glory!
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Dennis Donovan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 01:20 PM
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51. Van or Von Braun? It might make a world of difference...
Perhaps an old Nazi? :shrug:
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 01:54 PM
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72. "Van" is Dutch. "Von" is German n/t
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 01:02 PM
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32. Where did the gunman get the gun? nt
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 01:26 PM
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59. He's from Maryland, so presumably a gun store. NT
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 01:02 PM
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33. Homegrown terrorism strikes again. What was that report that DHS
Sec. Napolitano retracted in an act of spineless cowardice?

This is just the start. They have seen that killing their enemies in cold blood WORKS.

(I've got news, though. They'll have to kill every last Jew on the planet before the Holocaust Museum would have a snowball's chance in hell of closing.)
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 01:05 PM
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37. In fact, homegrown terror IMO is more of a threat than foreign terror
Awful tragedy today; hope the gunman goes to jail and that the security guard recovers.
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 02:20 PM
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83. Ditto
I've always maintain that the threat to America is not from outside, its actually home grown
and these assholes are more desperate and determined than ever.

This is where the focus should be and all those journalist openly advocating hate filled message should be fined, because this is what would happen otherwise.

IMO...they are testing to see how people would response to something major.

Dick Cheney has already made it clear by leaving people behind within the Government.

I hope the Obama Administration is not taking things like these lightly.

:mad: :mad: :mad:


:grr: :grr: :grr:
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genna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 02:06 PM
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78. We're vulnerable. Napolitano retracted the report?
I thought she clarified her position. When did she say we're wrong about these activities?


In so far as an abortion doctor being assassinated (family closed the facility) and this symbol of the Holocaust being targeted, it feels like the flood gates are open.


If they aren't an arm of the Republican true believers, why don't they act up when a Republican is in the White House? I feel blessed that they have held their gun fire up until this point. I am worried about people who are left leaning. These people have been stock piling guns for the last few months. It isn't so pretty for those army recruits in Arkansas either. Domestic terrorism from U.S. citizens.


I remember how scary the DC Sniper. Those months he was killing people was terrible.
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Jane Eyre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 01:04 PM
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35. Shooter is white male born in 1920
He walked in with a rifle and started shooting indiscriminately, hitting two people. One person shot was a guard who has critical injuries. Another guard shot the shooter in the head. The shooter's name has not been released yet, but he is a white man born in 1920. One reporter stated that the shooter is not expected to survive his injuries, but that is not confirmed.
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kwassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 01:06 PM
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39. 89 years old?
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 01:05 PM
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38. I wonder what was the motivation for this? sad very sad.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 01:13 PM
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47. Hatred of Jews. Probably hatred of blacks made him come unhinged
when Obama got inaugurated, and then the Tiller murder convinced him it was time to act.

Betcha he's KKK or Aryan Nations or some such dreck.
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X_Digger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 01:06 PM
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41. Google result on supposed suspect.. white supremacist
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Jane Eyre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 01:07 PM
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42. Shooter James W. Van Braun has connections to white supremist websites
MSNBC reporter stating that googling his name brings up lots of connections to white supremecy websites.
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Jane Eyre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 01:11 PM
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46. James W. Von Brunn
Corrected spelling.

From his website:

http://www.holywesternempire.org/bio.html

James W. von Brunn holds a BachSci Journalism degree from a mid-Western university where he was president of SAE and played varsity football.

During WWII he served as PT-Boat captain, Lt. USNR, receiving a Commendation and four battle stars. For twenty years he was an advertising executive and film-producer in New York City. He is a member of Mensa, the high-IQ society.

In 1981 Von Brunn attempted to place the treasonous Federal Reserve Board of Governors under legal, non-violent, citizens arrest. He was tried in a Washington, D.C. Superior Court; convicted by a Negro jury, Jew/Negro attorneys, and sentenced to prison for eleven years by a Jew judge. A Jew/Negro/White Court of Appeals denied his appeal. He served 6.5 years in federal prison. (Read about von Brunn's "Federal Reserve Caper" HERE.) He is now an artist and author and lives on Maryland's Eastern Shore.

Tob Shebbe Goyim Harog is the culmination of his life's work.
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norepubsin08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 01:10 PM
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45. OMG: My family and I were just there
When we were there, it felt like such a sacred space, you could hear a pin drop, everybody was so respectful and quiet...even my 12 year old daughter was awed...I was born in Germany and my family suffered greatly because they had a Jewish sir name. To go and shoot the place is so profane, my prayers are with the people shot and those who had to witness that desecration!!!
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 01:15 PM
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48. James W. Von Brunn at Storm Front. The same?

"Friend of Stormfront"
Sustaining Member



Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Northern California
Posts: 1,661
Blog Entries: 1

White Racialist Treasure: James Von Brunn
To begin this thread, please take a look at:

http://www.holywesternempire.org

the site of James Von Brunn, author of _Kill The Best Gentiles (Tob Shebbe Goyim Harog!)_ . The first 6 chapters of his book are available for free downloading from holywesternempire.org. _Kill The Best Gentiles..._ is a valuable resource for me. You may benefit from it, as well.

James is a Gentleman I have great admiration for. From his biography:

"James W. von Brunn holds a BachSci Journalism degree from a mid-Western university where he was president of SAE and played varsity football.
During WWII he served as PT-Boat captain, Lt. USNR, receiving a Commendation and four battle stars. For twenty years he was an advertising executive and film-producer in New York City. He is a member of Mensa, the high-IQ society.
In 1981 von Brunn attempted to place the treasonous Federal Reserve Board of Governors under legal, non-violent, citizens arrest. He was tried in a Washington, D.C. Superior Court; convicted by a Negro jury, Jew/Negro attorneys, and sentenced to prison for eleven years by a Jew judge. A Jew/Negro/White Court of Appeals denied his appeal. He served 6.5 years in federal prison. He is now an artist and author and lives on Maryland's Eastern Shore."

When I first read his biography, I realized James Von Brunn had taken direct action to deal with the banking cartel that controls and destroys so much of our lives and somehow I had never heard of his heroic deed. How could that be? How could such an amazing deed go unremarked by the journals and books that deal with monetary systems and how we are controlled by them?

After speaking with James, I must conclude many who were in a position to shine light on the situation were afraid to do so.

James Von Brunn endured having his house burned down in retaliation for publishing books that the jews viewed as hostile to their financial interests. James endured jail and personal sorrows as a consequence of his refusal to submit to tyranny.

My nomination for White Racialist Treasure: James Von Brunn.

Please feel free to add your nominations for White Racialist Treasures to this thread. Thank you.

Blessed Be the Pro-White Activists,
Elena
__________________
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 01:17 PM
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50. E-book by James W. Von Brunn:
Kill the Best Gentiles! by James W. Von Brunn

The first six chapters of the notable e-book by James W. Von Brunn, Kill the Best Gentiles, can be viewed free at the link below, and rest of the work can be purchased by credit card for ten dollars at http://www.holywesternempire.org

Dont miss it!

http://www.holywesternempire.org/tob_shebbe_goyim_harog...
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 01:20 PM
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52. Ugly, ugly, ugly:
Edited on Wed Jun-10-09 01:21 PM by Hissyspit
Whether this guy is the shooter or not:

"If you marry - marry light!"
HARLEM CREDO. by JAMES VON BRUNN
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 01:22 PM
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57. Spam Post from Sept. 2007?
http://2ltmorrisseau.com/?p=5

James von Brunn Says:
October 15th, 2007 at 2:22 pm
Please check this site out and post it:
www.holywesternempire.org
YOU ARE ON TARGET!

James von Brunn
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 01:17 PM
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49. So another right wing Christian/white supremacists terrorist strikes on
American soil. How many more of these will we have before the FBI takes action?
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spiritual_gunfighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 01:36 PM
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66. He most definitely isn't Christian
Edited on Wed Jun-10-09 01:37 PM by spiritual_gunfighter
It was reported on MSNBC and it is on his website www.holywesternempire.org that he is very anti-Christian and equates it with the "holocaust religion" (his words obviously) of the Jews, for what it's worth.
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 01:21 PM
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54. Obama's visit to Buchenwald probably sent this guy over the edge.
I hope this hatred is not spreading.
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downindixie Donating Member (321 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 01:24 PM
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58. MSNBC is reporting something about this 89 y.o man was
angry because he had been tried in court for something and he said he was convicted because the judge,members of the jury and sentencing jury were jews.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 01:33 PM
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64. His "story" from his blog:
Edited on Wed Jun-10-09 01:33 PM by Hissyspit
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Jane Eyre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 01:28 PM
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60. This guy SHOULD have been under surveillance
Here's another link, from a Ron Paul for President Yahoo group:



http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RonPaulforPresident/messa...

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KILL THE BEST GENTILES
Tob Shebbe Goyim Harog
James W. Von Brunn
440 pg Down Loadable
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http://www.holywesternempire.org /

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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 01:32 PM
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62. Arrested in 1981 with weapons in Fed building:


The courtroom was filled with Blacks and Jews. When the prosecution made a point they cheered; conversely I was booed. Judge Harriet Rosen Taylor made little effort to quiet them. The prosecution team was led by a JEW, but Nixon, a Negro, tried the case. They decided, early on, that their case was to be based on my racism. The racist charge was predicated on a 1000-word essay that I had intended to read on TV during the FED "action." My MS, now available at www.holywesternempire.org, stemmed from that essay. There are many notable quotes therein that offend Negroes and Jews -- including several by Washington, Jefferson and Lincoln. The jury and all alternates were Negroes, with one exception, a diminutive, gray-haired White lady sitting between two Negro female behemoths. Almost all the Negroes had served jail sentences, and many black ex-felons were rejected at voir dire. One black male slept through most of the trial.

A unanimous verdict was handed down. I was guilty on all counts, and sentenced to 11 years. Elgin Groseclose visited me several days later in the City Jail. He affectionately patted the glass that separated us. There were tears in his eyes. An attractive blonde seated nearby was visiting her Negro husband. It was a most depressing scenario. 6 months later I was sent to Springfield, MO, State Pen for psychiatric examination. I was declared sane "without even a hint" of paranoia, etc. However, I received a low IQ. The tests were taken in pencil, and became part of my prison records. This bothered me. Upon arriving at Ray Brook, FCI, I arranged to take Mensa tests (oral and written). A prison psychologist was sent in to administer them. He had a lisp! Even so, much to my surprise, I was admitted to Mensa. Meanwhile. My preparations for Appeal went badly. The court appointed another attorney who didn't even have an office! By the time his brief reached me in prison, the Appeal had been adjudicated. Ben Wilson, my Easton, Md, attorney, was hesitant but finally agreed appear in my behalf before the Court of Appeals. Ben had Jew clients. He received Admiral Crommelin's plea in my behalf; painstakingly written in longhand. The Admiral asked Ben to review it, have it typed in legal format, and then present it before my court appointed attorney made his Appeal. Meanwhile, Adm. Crommelin had personally met with Pres. Ronald Reagan in my behalf (I have a photograph of John and the President). The day of the Appeal, Ben and my sister appeared at court. The three appellate judges were Black, Jew and White. Sadly, Ben had suffered cold feet. For this Crommelin holds Ben Wilson in utter contempt. Ben had not prepared Crommelin's appeal and he arranged to arrive in court after the decision was handed down, i.e., Guilty on all counts. BELOW IS A LETTER that I wrote while in prison to SecNav James Webb. I hoped to interest him in my case. The letter explains in detail how the Government rigged my trial.

- snip -

7 December 1981, 1 hoped to reveal to the American People certain Facts regarding the World Marxist Conspiracy that are suppressed by the mass-media. I attempted to place the FED Board of Governors under legal, non-violent, citizen's arrest -- supported by D.C. statutes, and by Misprision of Felony statute under U.S. Treason and Sedition Law. I charge the FED with Treason, operation of a Fraudulent Enterprise, and un-Constitutional Private Corporate Operations. I intended to hold the Board prisoners in the Board Room, demand that their fellow conspirators at CBS provide national TV-hookup; then, over TV to figuratively hand over the felons to the American people with an explanation of my charges against the FED . I then intended to hand over the prisoners, unharmed, to the President of the United States. I expected to stand trial in a U.S. Federal District Court, and prove the FED's culpability to a jury of my peers. I expected the jury to find the FED guilty and my citizens arrest of the felons upheld by statute. Thus, We the People would issue a mandate to the Congress of the United States to bring proceeding against the FED, a privately held corporation, under Federal Tort Law.

I failed to achieve my objectives at the FED Building. There was no violence. I voluntarily surrendered my unloaded weapons to the guard, a former U.S. Marine. I carried no ammo or explosives (all of these facts either omitted or distorted in the official record).

My bail/bond was set at $3,000.($300. cash). I was released upon my own recognizance by Judge Hess. Later I was indicted for Attempted Kidnapping, Robbery, Burglary, Assault with, and possession of, Illegal Weapons. 14 months later, after the timely aspects of my actions were permitted to fade out, I was tried, convicted and sentenced for all counts. The government had offered to drop all charges if I would plead guilty to the weapons charges. I refused the Plea Bargain relying on a fair trial.

I was denied a fair trial for the following reasons:

1) The government tried me in Superior Court, Washington,D.C. which does not have the standing to try Constitutional issues. Thus, I could not pursue the issue of the FED's unconstitutionality -- an important element in my defense. My request for change of venue was denied. The case should have been tried in Federal District Court. I am now a D.C. prisoner "warehoused" in a Federal Prison and under jurisdiction of the Federal Parole Commission which recently re-tried and re-sentenced me.

2) There was no media coverage.of my trial. I personally visited D.C. newspaper editors and wrote major networks inviting coverage one recalls the favorable publicity afforded Daniel Ellsberg's "Pentagon Papers Trial." Those who orchestrated his publicity were the same media-masters that suppressed my attempt to expose the Marxist Conspiracy within our Nation.

3) At my arrest, on my person, was an 11-page Outline (Gov't. Exh.14) (Please see Enclosure "C") from which I intended to extemporize on TV. Exhibit 14 implicates Jews/Zionists in the One World Marxists plot. The Outline also shows that Negroes are being used as dupes by the Marxists to destroy our Western Culture. The manipulators, to assure my conviction, simply appointed court officers who would be racially prejudiced against me because of the contents of Exhibit 14.

Court Officers and Jury -. appointed as follows:

Judge, Harriet Rosen Taylor, JEW; Prosecuting Attorney, Elliot Warren, JEW (Warren, later strategically replaced by Ron Dixon, Negro), remained in court throughout the trial as acting consultant to Dixon); Prosecuting Attorney, Ron Dixon, Negro; Probation Officer, Marvin Davids, JEW (Rabbi); Recorder & Bailiff, Negroes. 53 potential jurors attended voir dire, six were white. Dixon, using his peremptory challenges, dismissed all but one white woman juror seating 11 Negro jurors, and 3 Negro Alternates, Court Appointed Defense Attorney, Elizabeth Kent, JEW, was dismissed by me when she did no work on the case for several months. Her court-appointed replacement, Gerard Lewis proved to be a Trojan Horse. I would have had a fairer trial in Iowa!
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Jane Eyre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 01:37 PM
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67. Why was he allowed to be out walking the streets?
Edited on Wed Jun-10-09 01:38 PM by Jane Eyre
I wonder if the gun that he used was one that he owned legally. I wouldn't doubt it.

The post from the Yahoo group doesn't appear to be posted by Von Brunn, but by someone named Thomas Watts who is pushing Von Brunn's book while calling for the deaths of elected officials on a public message group supporting a presidential candidate. Where is Homeland Security? Where is the Secret Service?
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 03:35 PM
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97. If Hissyspit's post is correct then he was legally barred from possessing firearms.
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benEzra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 07:05 PM
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114. No, it wasn't, although he could have owned it legally before his felony conviction. (n/t)
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get the red out Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 01:33 PM
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63. If he were a Muslim
He would be referred to as "Al Qaida number 2".
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 01:35 PM
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65. Two shot by white supremacist at Holocaust museum (timesonline)
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handmade34 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 01:42 PM
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68. from his website
James W. von Brunn holds a BachSci Journalism degree from a mid-Western university where he was president of SAE and played varsity football.

During WWII he served as PT-Boat captain, Lt. USNR, receiving a Commendation and four battle stars. For twenty years he was an advertising executive and film-producer in New York City. He is a member of Mensa, the high-IQ society.

In 1981 Von Brunn attempted to place the treasonous Federal Reserve Board of Governors under legal, non-violent, citizens arrest. He was tried in a Washington, D.C. Superior Court; convicted by a Negro jury, Jew/Negro attorneys, and sentenced to prison for eleven years by a Jew judge. A Jew/Negro/White Court of Appeals denied his appeal. He served 6.5 years in federal prison. (Read about von Brunn's "Federal Reserve Caper" HERE.) He is now an artist and author and lives on Maryland's Eastern Shore.

Tob Shebbe Goyim Harog is the culmination of his life's work.
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Jane Eyre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 01:43 PM
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69. Southern Poverty Law Center rep speaking on MSNBC now
Saying that Von Brunn was a major player in the white supremacist movement. Discussing his book "Kill the Best Gentiles".

This is not someone who was an unknown. He was a "major player".
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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 01:50 PM
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70. Holocaust museum shooter reportedly white supremacist whose writings were posted on Free Republic.
Holocaust museum shooter reportedly white supremacist whose writings were posted on Free Republic.

This afternoon, a gunman apparently shot at least one person at the Holocaust Museum in Washington, DC. MSNBC is reporting that the suspected shooter, who also sustained gunshot wounds, is James Von Brunn, a white supremacist born in 1920. Brunn has been approvingly cited on Stormfront, a national white supremacist website. He is apparently the author of a tract called, Kill the Best Gentiles, which his website describes as a new, hard-hitting expos of the JEW CONSPIRACY to destroy the White gene-pool. Brunn, a WWII veteran, also wrote a screed on President Obamas citizenship that was re-posted to popular right-wing blog Free Republic:



A Department of Homeland Security report leaked earlier this year and subsequently retracted warned of right-wing extremists that are primarily hate-oriented (based on hatred of particular religious, racial or ethnic groups).

http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/10/brunn-holocaust-sho...
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TarheelForChange Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 03:02 PM
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88. google cache of post
Free Republic has already pulled that thread.
Here's the link to the google cache of that post:

http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:niXSYG-nVO8J:www.fr...
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Strong Atheist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 03:28 PM
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95. Welcome to DU!
:toast:
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 01:51 PM
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71. With any luck, the gunman will die slow of his wounds.
Edited on Wed Jun-10-09 01:52 PM by backscatter712
Fucking Nazi sack of shit. I hope it's like the Old West where a person got shot in the gut and didn't die until next Tuesday...
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Joey Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 01:55 PM
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74. Another Faux News watching Ditto Head???? nt
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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 01:56 PM
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75. I wonder if we won't see more elder kamikazes of all stripes
Surely there are many people who figure "I'm 90 (80-100), what can they do to me?" Or "I'm terminal, what can they do to me?"

Back in the 1980's, an artist with AIDS made a poster implying such a threat. I can't remember his name, but it went something like, "Be afraid of me, I have nothing left to lose."
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Rhythm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 02:02 PM
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77. Shooter's bio from his website
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 02:14 PM
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80. The third paragraph of that; wow. (nt)
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The abyss Donating Member (930 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 10:05 PM
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117. 
This is rather odd.

http://www.whois.net/whois/holywesternempire.org

Just what web site is actually what here?
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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 02:08 PM
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79. more info:
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 02:19 PM
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81. If it means anything Free Republic is already pulling his posts
Someone found a post by him but it's already been pulled.

Odd how Free Republic is creating terrorists - let's send them to Gitmo and have them waterboarded

:grr:
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jhain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 02:20 PM
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82. Did anyone hear which security force agent was injured
A woman reporter asked the police chief, but I couldn't hear the chief's response.
Is it a federal or a PRIVATE security guard?
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 03:16 PM
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90. private
Edited on Wed Jun-10-09 03:16 PM by northzax
and I just heard on the local NBC affiliate that he has died at GW hospital. being named as Officer Stephen Tyrone (or Jermone, they said both) Johns. RIP.
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jhain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 03:48 PM
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101. Just heard , too.
Have a friend who works those details...a few loooooong hours here.

***************************

Prayers to the family & friends of Mr. Johns...
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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 02:21 PM
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84. want to SEE how crazy this guy is?
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Dramarama Donating Member (544 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 03:41 PM
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99. Wow
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riverdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 03:57 PM
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102. This is the guy?
If so, he's done this before. According to the response from Tom Clancy:

My FBI friends despise them all. Why? They are criminals, murdering terrorists, one of whom shit his drawers when arrested. Quite a man, eh? Von Brunn also walked into a government building, by his own account, armed (he claims the gun was not loaded, but one cannot tell that from three feet away can one?), and demanded that his rather eccentric view of the law be accepted by others. Well, you know, that's pretty damned dumb. He was sent to prison for stupidity, claiming to me that he was unfairly railroaded by Jews and others. No, buddy, he went to jail for being rather incredibly stupid, to the point of madness in my opinion.


This is going to get real sordid, real fast.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 02:21 PM
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85. K&R
:(
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TygrBright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 02:28 PM
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86. Link to WaPo coverage
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/20...

The sad thing about it is, I'm sure that although shock and sorrow and anger were immediate responses, Jewish people will not feel a lot of surprise-- and neither do I.

And that makes me very sad, indeed.

depressedly,
Bright
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VWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 03:13 PM
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89. My nephew was there with his classmates YESTERDAY
:scared: :scared: :scared:
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Ex Nihilo Donating Member (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 03:16 PM
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91. This guy
is the original. He is not a product of O' Reilly or Beck, he is the real deal from way back. From before the Internet even existed. This guy has acted out before. Honestly, I can't see blaming anybody but him, just like that muslim acted alone when he killed that recruiter.
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Strong Atheist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 03:31 PM
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96. Welcome to DU!
:toast:
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Ex Nihilo Donating Member (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 03:37 PM
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98. Thanks for not being snarky
I almost didn't post because alot of times DUers hop onto anyone who doesn't buy into the most extreme conspiracy theories. This guy is a nutjob and all, no defense for that, but i see alot of people on here thinking up a conspiracy that is just going to radicalize more people. How many times can you tell people there are terrorists before they decide "what the hell? why not?". *Sigh* Sometimes I think people *want* Civil War II.
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Strong Atheist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 03:42 PM
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100. You are welcome! nt.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 05:05 PM
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106. Anyway, he didn't live in a bubble the past 15 years.
He's as likely to have being prodded by hate media as any other RW nutjob. Age is irrelevant for that.

Robert Byrd, among many others, saw the error of his ways. Why didn't he?
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Dogtown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 03:20 PM
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92. I'll speculate that he wanted
to die as a martyr and be enshrined as a hero to his racist brothers. That's a pretty advanced age and I'll bet his mortality was beginning to worry him.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 03:20 PM
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93. Christ, the lunatics are comming out!
:scared:
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 05:24 PM
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109. yep. but what can you do?
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gorfle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 04:24 PM
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103. Thank goodness!
Thank goodness there were people there with guns who could stop this nut's rampage! Who knows how many innocent people this guy would have gone on to kill?
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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 04:45 PM
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104. Damn.
:cry:
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Dramarama Donating Member (544 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 05:01 PM
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105. Muslim group condemns
WASHINGTON, June 10 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- A prominent national Islamic civil rights and advocacy group today condemned a shooting incident at the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington, D.C., during which a security guard and the alleged gunman were reportedly wounded.


In a statement, the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) said:

"We condemn this apparent bias-motivated attack and stand with the Jewish community and with Americans of all faiths in repudiating the kind of hatred and intolerance that can lead to such disturbing incidents."

CAIR, America's largest Muslim civil liberties and advocacy organization, has 35 offices and chapters nationwide and in Canada. Its mission is to enhance the understanding of Islam, encourage dialogue, protect civil liberties, empower American Muslims, and build coalitions that promote justice and mutual understanding.
http://news.prnewswire.com/DisplayReleaseContent.aspx?A...
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KTinaY2008 Donating Member (28 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 05:14 PM
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108. Something has to be done
Edited on Wed Jun-10-09 05:18 PM by KTinaY2008
about these people. I was an idiot and went over to see what the people from Free Republic had to say. They are crazy. I hope they have FBI scanning their board for terrorist. They claim that this man is far left and agrees with Obama on most issues. They are also worried about why the media is covering this when they didn't cover the Muslim convert who shot the Army recruiters. Who cares about the man that lost his life today. I guess he was a black man so who cares. :grr:
Also if you want to place bets on who the next terrorist is to come from Free Republic than this guy has to be a strong candidate:
To: LdSentinal
Something to ponder. I have said before that those of us who consider ourselves "patriots" who may very well one day have to stand up against our gummint can't begin to organize as "where two or more of you gather" there will also be the BATF, FBI, etc. So "when the day comes" will it look like this? I ain't sayin' we're there but it seems to me we may well be damn close.



Scary stuff. I hope the FBI are keeping a close eye on this site.
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warmeyesgirl Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 05:07 PM
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107. Holocaust Museum and National Geographic Special

There's a program on National Geographic Channel tonight at 9 PM on Aryan Nations and other white supremacist groups. It covers the Aryan Nation's linked shooting in LA at the Jewish Community Center. This is an on point, recent, news special on these hate groups. Their numbers are growing in the U.S.and today's shooter at the museum is well known to groups like the SPLC and ADL that monitor them.

Inside: American Nazis
http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/series/inside/395...
National Geographic Channel
June 10, 12
9 PM
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heliarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 05:55 PM
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110. This guy is the such a POS...
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 06:23 PM
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111. These RW wackos going postal sure are killing a lot of innocent people.
Janet Napolitano was right, and she should never have apologized.

Conservative nutjobs have repeatedly proven themselves to be lethal terrorists.
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FailureToCommunicate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 07:22 PM
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115. opps
Edited on Wed Jun-10-09 07:23 PM by FailureToCommunicate

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Dukkha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 06:28 PM
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112. coincidentally he's 88 years old
88 is white supremacist code for "Heil Hitler"
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FailureToCommunicate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 07:24 PM
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116. We were just in DC for a memorial; any security would take even a key ring knife... A rifle!?!
How was this guy able to wander around with a damn rifle?!?
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 11:34 PM
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118. Apparently he parked right outside and was stopped at the outer entrance by the armed guards.
He didn't even get as far as the metal detectors. But that's what I thought, too. A .22 rifle isn't easily concealed. :shrug:
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