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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-09-09 09:50 PM
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Taliban vow to 'eliminate' Pakistan's top leadership
Source: Times of India

Taliban vow to 'eliminate' Pakistan's top leadership

9 May 2009, 1315 hrs IST, PTI


ISLAMABAD: Angered by Pakistan government's decision to launch an all out war against them, the Taliban has vowed to "eliminate" country's top Pakistan military leadership including President Asif Ali Zardari and Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani and their close family members.

"We thought that being a member of a religious family, Gilani will support our demand of implementing Sharia in the Malakand division but instead he has announced an all-out war against us, which has angered our commanders as well as fighters," an unnamed Taliban commander told The News daily.

The militant commander, who spoke to the newspaper by phone, said after Gilani declared during an address to the nation on Thursday that the Taliban would be wiped out from the Swat Valley and adjoining areas, the militants had started planning to "eliminate the top leaders of the ruling alliance, including President, Prime Minister and their close family members and aides".

The commander said Gilani's hometown of Multan and tomb of former premier Benazir Bhutto might also be targeted by the militants.

"Besides, the personnel and installations of security forces, we have now also included civilian rulers in our hit list. We will definitely need some time to plan our actions but it is not impossible for us and we have all the means to implement our plan of attack anywhere in Pakistan," he claimed.


Read more: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/World/Taliban-vow-to-eliminate-Zadari-Gilani/articleshow/4502694.cms
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-09-09 09:54 PM
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1. The Pakistani government..
.. has been playing kid glove with these shits for years and now it comes back to haunt them.

I feel sorry for the Pakistani people, a little, because they were part of the reason the gov't didn't act - but I don't feel sorry for the gov't at all.
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Bobbieo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-09-09 10:28 PM
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2. The Taliban is a threat that needs to be taken seriously. They are the scariest people on earth!!!
Edited on Sat May-09-09 10:29 PM by Bobbieo
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Alamuti Lotus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-09-09 10:40 PM
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3. Hyperbole much?
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-09-09 10:52 PM
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4. Were the Taleban to take over Pakistan, they will threaten India
a nation they see as infidels, plus no mention of untold mischief they could cause with access to Pakistani nuclear technology and know-how.

There are some really bad people out there, it is not just hyperbole.
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Prometheus Bound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 12:40 AM
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8. The 3000 Taliban have no chance of taking over Pakistan, much less India.
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Bobbieo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 05:38 AM
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9. I wish I could believe there are only 3,000 Taliban.
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Prometheus Bound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 06:16 AM
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10. Please give me a chance to convince you.
Observing that about 3,000terrorists were in Swat valley, Pakistan President Asif Ali Zardari said his government is determined to kill them all to bring life to normalcy in the picturesque valley in the vicinity of Islamabad.
http://www.ptinews.com/pti%5Cptisite.nsf/0/6D2FB4D4FBE90DAD652575B2001E57E7?OpenDocument

'Pak determined to kill all 3,000 terrorists in Swat Valley'
Washington: Observing that about 3,000 terrorists were in Swat valley, Pakistan President Asif AliZardari said his government is determined to kill them all tobring life to normalcy in the picturesque valley in thevicinity of Islamabad.
http://sify.com/news/fullstory.php?a=jfkiabheahc&title=Pak_determined_to_kill_all_3_000_terrorists_in_Swat_Valley&tag=topnews&?vsv=TopHP1

Analysts say roughly 3,000 Taliban militants have been able to take on a 12,000-strong Pakistani military force in Swat Valley.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=100785769

Pakistan Makes a Taliban Truce, Creating a Haven
About 3,000 Taliban militants have kept 12,000 government troops at bay and terrorized the local population with floggings and the burning of schools.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/17/world/asia/17pstan.html

WSJA(4/27) Pakistan Army Fights Advancing Taliban
That relationship gave Mr. Javed the influence needed to negotiate the peace deal, which was struck after 18 months of fighting that saw some 3,000 Taliban battle four times as many soldiers to a standstill.
http://forexdaily.org.ru/Dow_Jones/page.htm?id=548031

Others believe that the security forces were just too weak to defeat the 3,000 armed extremists.
https://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,609575,00.html
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SWr Donating Member (116 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 08:12 AM
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11. you forget
Except your forgetting about sympathizers. The PAK ISI and their military are LOADED with TB sympathizers and would like nothing better than to see their gov. overthrown in favor of something more conservative (Sharia).

3000 (estimated) taliban isnt the issue besides those are only the ones out in the open.

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Prometheus Bound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 08:24 AM
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12. The fact is it's 3000 armed Taliban against 600,000 armed military if it should come to that.
Pakistan has sent only 12,000 soldiers to deal with the Swat Taliban, so they can't be too concerned. That leaves 588,000 regular troops still available should push come to shove, plus several hundred thousand in the reserves.

This propaganda about the Taliban conceivably taking over the country is just so much nonsense.

FEAR! FEAR! FEAR!
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SWr Donating Member (116 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 05:00 PM
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20. your forgetting
This isnt about 3000 TALIBAN.

Its about the sympathizers WITHIN the PAK government, military and the ISI.

THINK MAN THINK!!!!
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 10:17 AM
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15. not to mention those attending the educational institutions set up by Saudi sympathizer$
Red mosque alone boasted of having thousands of students originally from Swat valley. Age is not a barrier when 'fighting for the righteous' cause.The clerics running the schools give their blessings to the students to go off and "find their place" in life...or in death. And the clerics claim themselves unable to control what their students decide to do with their lives.

WTF did you teach them ?

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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 08:53 AM
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13. ...but if they agree to "talk peace" with the civilian government
they can make good their promise to cut the throats of their enemies.

Only the Pak military can save the Pak sectarianist govt. In fact, the military can choose to squash both governments in the divided house but
they do love to showboat against "the real enemy" to the east

http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/news/world/09-no-peace-talks-until-mumbai-plotters-booked-indian-pm-szh--07



http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=cca_1227755968

and just who are these "Taliban" these people in Mumbai speak of ?
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Bobbieo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-09-09 10:57 PM
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5. Any fundamentalist group of men who want to stone a woman
who appears in public without her burka or head covering and is accused of tempting men has some serious issues.

No will power or self control is one major problem.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-09-09 11:02 PM
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6. The Taleban ordered the closing of all girls' schools back in January
Inside the Taliban's besieged Swat fortress as battle rages

Education has always been a hot issue for the Taliban – last January they ordered the closure of all girls' schools – so it is perversely appropriate that the war is being fought between schools. On Thursday, the Observer visited the Pamir building, which until recently housed the Educators School and College. It was filled with Taliban, their weapons trained on a contingent of soldiers located in a deserted school a few streets away.

The target is the last military bastion in the otherwise Taliban-controlled city, and the soldiers hunkered down inside also face fire from a second position: the Mullababa high school, on the far side of a desiccated riverbed. The army says that 15,000 members of the security forces are located in Swat, many under siege in two camps across the river Swat in Kanju village. One is located on the city golf course, where heavy artillery booms from the rutted greens; the other is inside an unused air strip that has been the target of several Taliban assaults.

The Taliban are bringing in fresh fighters, drawing others back from the nearby Buner valley, where they have been engaged in fierce combat for two weeks. To reach Mingora they pass along a mountain road that runs by the White Palace, a luxury hotel where the Queen stayed during a visit to Swat in 1961.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/may/10/pakistan-mingora-taliban-swat-fortress

And let's not forget that the Taleban provides aid and comfort to Al-Qaeda in the tribal regions, including fugitive terrorists bin Laden and Al-Zawahiri.
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 10:31 AM
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17. Taliban style democracy in action ( Feb 2008 )
Pakistan ; Woman And Sharia Law 2008.
Pakistan February 2008.

Filmed shortly before the recent elections in Pakistan.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=2ee_1214485437


in just 15 months
"They've come a long way baby"
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KakistocracyHater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-09-09 11:13 PM
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7. again we need to get a way to say no to God
without looking like evil people. They & the evangelicals here both want to live by 2 very outdated books, Biblical Christians, Sharia Muslims-give me Sufis any day. The trouble is how old those ideas & philosophies are, they talk about an extinct world. Neither the Bible nor the Koran/Torah give any valuable advice about gardening/farming, no useful medical treatises, no sewing patterns, very sketchy cooking recipes, outmoded fashion advice. What gives?
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lelgt60 Donating Member (417 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 09:38 AM
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14. What about the kosher laws?
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KakistocracyHater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 05:15 PM
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21. what do you mean? Like halal?
It doesn't make sense.
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 10:23 AM
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16. give alla and mohamad a free pass. They still are pissed at the pope for not
constantly apologizing about what a 15th century pope said about islam



http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5iuc0-Qmok4k87bkJzB59lGg6Jf6Q

If they can't forgive and forget,turn the other cheek ect...fukem


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9dXGJ2rYdA&feature=related
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 10:44 AM
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18. Pakistani scientist detained in the US on terror charges – will be repatriated ( interesting )
Wasn't she accused of being able to make dirty bombs by the *co regime ?
Aafia to be repatriated home ‘soon’: Malik
WASHINGTON: Aafia Siddique – a Pakistani scientist detained in the US on terror charges – will be repatriated home soon, said Interior Minister Rehman Malik on Friday. “Considerable progress has been made ... and the response has been positive from the US administration over her release,” Rehman told APP. He said he had held meetings with officials from the FBI and the State Department and the US attorney general, and “I convincingly pleaded her case, both on legal and humanitarian grounds”. He said the attorney general had promised him a meeting with Aafia. Rehman said the US administration had also shown willingness to arrange a meeting between Aafia and her family. agencies

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2009%5C05%5C09%5Cstory_9-5-2009_pg7_19

Alleged Mata Hari of Al Qaeda Indicted: Could Provide 'Treasure Trove' of Intelligence

Aafia Siddiqui Had "Dirty Bomb" & "Mass Casualty Attack" Information & New York Target List in Her Possession


snip





http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=5710043&page=1


poetic justice will be served ?
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-10-09 10:56 AM
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19. This is standard Taliban
rhetoric. Next they'll take over China. They would make Baghdad Bob blush. Never the less, it's good that the Pakistanis are finally doing something of substance. They can skip the diplomacy with these guys and go straight to the solution.
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