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Tab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 04:00 PM
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Democrats: Texas gov should disavow secession talk
Source: Associated Press

AUSTIN, Texas A group of Texas Democrats says Republican Gov. Rick Perry was reckless when he suggested at an anti-tax rally that fed-up Americans may one day want to secede from the United States. They said Thursday that he should disavow such talk. Democratic state Rep. Jim Dunnam of Waco says talk of secession is anti-American and that some people associate it with racial division and the Civil War.

Perry's office did not immediately respond Thursday.

Answering a question from The Associated Press at an anti-tax rally Wednesday, Perry said he doesn't think Texas should secede. But he said the federal government was thumbing its nose at the American people and added, "who knows what might come out of that."


Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090416/ap_on_re_us/perry_s...
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 04:03 PM
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1. The Fed may be thumbing its nose at the American people...
But for eight years of Bush rule, the Fed carved open the American people and took a dump in their viscera.

Any asshole who wants to secede now should simply renounce his citizenship and be done with it. But if he doesn't have the courage of his convictions, then he should shut the fuck up.
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 04:05 PM
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2. +1
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JaneFordA Donating Member (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 05:09 PM
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10. Because of dire economic conditions...
... why don't we sell Texas instead? We could use the cash!

Of course, that means there has to be a willing buyer. One of the Saudi princes, maybe? That would bring on the theocracy so cherished down there plus all sorts of capital punishment fun and games that would entertain the cowboys for days.

It'll mean giving up pork barbecue and beer, though. So it might not be as much of a slam-dunk as I think.

;-)

Does TX fit on e-bay? :-)
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 07:10 PM
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16. Would China take it to pay off our debt?
I think Governor Perry would love the New Rules from China.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 08:38 PM
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neverforget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 09:59 PM
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31. You should test the courage of your convictions and secede.
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sledgehammer Donating Member (774 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 08:31 PM
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21. Texas and Saudi are eerily similar
Lots of oil. Lots of sand. Lots of executions. Lots of backward thinking religious zealots. A few big, glittering cities with no hint of public transport. A large labor force of immigrants who do all the work but are looked down upon. Moronic, uneducated leaders.

I think there's a perfect union here!
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radhika Donating Member (563 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 04:25 PM
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3. Buh-Bye, Texas
And take Alaska and Florida with you.
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NeoConsSuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 05:42 PM
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14. And South Carolina
the most conservative, backward state in the union.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 08:42 PM
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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 04:37 PM
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4. Rick Perry ?
Prick Eerie would be a more appropriate name for this idiot.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 04:37 PM
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5. No. Let him yap. Let him make a complete fool of himself.....
........just in time to sink his chances for bigger things.
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Dumak Donating Member (397 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 04:38 PM
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6. We need to excise Texas from the high-speed rail plans
if they're going to talk like that:

http://www.fra.dot.gov/Downloads/RRdev/hsrmap.pdf

These wingnuts are all too happy to throw our money into the Iraqi sinkhole to satisfy their bloodlust urges, but do anything for the common good, and it's "oh no, can't have that. It might help someone out who doesn't have a job."
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 04:57 PM
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9. Uh, genius -- there are people who "talk like that" all over the nation
Not just in Texas.
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Dumak Donating Member (397 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 07:36 AM
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35. Of course, but in this case we are talking about a sitting governor /nt
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ismnotwasm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 04:41 PM
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7. Secession. Someone has delusions of competency
I wish I had the skill and the time to describe just what WOULD happen to the new country of Texas. Not a pretty thought.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 04:45 PM
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8. I didn't associate Perry's statement with racism. I associated it with treason and
all around assholery.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 05:13 PM
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11. Secession has the connotation in the minds of many of a move by the South
to protect their policies with regards to slavery. That's the racial tone there that they are talking about.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 07:11 PM
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17. Two things that so often hook up.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 08:48 PM
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 05:19 PM
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12. Stupid: Its what's for dinner
:crazy:
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Dead_Parrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 09:27 PM
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29. I'm guessing you'd prefer pizza?
I'm sure it can be arranged.
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 11:08 PM
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32. I was referring to Perry
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Johnboi70 Donating Member (114 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 05:29 PM
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13. If a dem said that, he'd be called a traitor. nt
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 08:33 PM
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38. Hardly.


Here are some traitors, it seems:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

Who knew you considered babylonsister a traitor--perhaps you're for hanging her?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

It was discussed more than a few times--either the "we're so much superior and understanding, let's leave the knuckledraggers behind" way of doing it, or the "we're so much superior and understanding, let's chuck the knuckledraggers out" alternative. We do it, it's great--after all, we're so much superior, how could it not be great.

They do it, it's crap. After all, they're so much inferior, how could it not be crap. The only thing consistent is the self-conceit. (Then again, that's something that, were we honest, we'd form a very solid bipartisan consensus on.)
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Joey Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 06:41 PM
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15. Gov. Perry is Unpatriotic nt
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panzerfaust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 01:17 PM
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37. But, But, isn't it ALL 'Merican to say, as Palin & Perry have, that
Edited on Fri Apr-17-09 01:18 PM by panzerfaust
"their" states should succeed from America?

I mean, how is that NOT being a Real 'Merican??

In fact, what could me MORE 'Merican???

Hell, next you'll be whining that "I hope Obama fails" is unpatriotic, and even un-Merican as well!

Interestingly, I doubt that their statements are even treason, as under our Constitution (Article III, Section 3):
"Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court."



(OK, so there is no record of Palin saying precisely that, but she is on-record as supporting the goals of the AIP - the main one of which is that Alaska should be it's own (700K) nation (as one can tell from the name "Alaskan Independence Party").
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Joey Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 10:10 AM
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40. Learn how to spell and we'll talk:)..........
Moron.
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 07:27 PM
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18. fuck that
the Dems should be drawing up the paperwork to make it happen.

dp
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Downwinder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 08:09 PM
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19. The pick em up trucks that used to fly the American flag,
before they changed over to the support our troops ribbons are now calling for secession. I hate to admit it but Texans seem to be the most weak backed people around. They don't just bend to the wind, they fall over and grovel to Perry and his handlers at the TAB, farting at both ends. Anybody else remember Al Capp's shmoos? For those who don't, there is a good section on Wikipedia.
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neverforget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 09:58 PM
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30. fredom? Is that like Fred Thompson?
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totodeinhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 08:20 PM
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20. If Texas wants to leave the union, I say let them.
Good riddance to them. That would increase the Democrats' majorities in both the House and the Senate.
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semillama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 03:55 PM
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45. You'll like this:
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 12:04 AM
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33. Racists and secessionists have taken over Lincoln's party. It's really sad.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 06:26 AM
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34. Texans should be impeaching Perry for treason, not asking him to disavow his
treasonous statements. I love what the Democratic Party stands for (or used to stand for), but it's wimpiness disturbs me.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 10:10 AM
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36. Meh, any that has a clue about Texas Government know fully well
that the governor, especially the current moron, is nothing more than the ranting crazy uncle at the table.

LT Gov and the congress have the power.

They let moron perry rant he wants because anyone that has a clue here in Texas knows fully well that perry is on political life support. Come the primary, he will effectively get his moronic ass handed to him.

the only constituents moron perry has left are the ultra fringe.
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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 09:20 PM
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39. Is the governor drawing a line on the sand?
Edited on Fri Apr-17-09 09:22 PM by AlphaCentauri
and asking those willing to die for the Texian cause to cross and stand alongside him for a Tea-Bag (urban dictionary)
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Reterr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 12:34 PM
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41. GOP=party of treason
America haters etc. etc.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-19-09 02:48 AM
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44. Welcome to DU! Enjoy your very short stay!
Bye!
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