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derby378 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 01:39 PM Original message |
Feinstein: Not The Time For Gun Control |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 01:41 PM Response to Original message |
1. If Queen Gun Grabber says this, then gun control is truly a non-starter |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 02:01 PM Response to Reply #1 |
9. Exactly- many, many more families will have to lose a loved one before the Red States go mainstream. |
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kenfrequed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 04:59 PM Response to Reply #9 |
130. OK |
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knixphan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 10:13 AM Response to Reply #130 |
180. Hear, hear! |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 05:03 PM Response to Reply #9 |
131. Gee, if a majority of americans.. |
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TEmperorHasNoClothes (356 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 10:11 AM Response to Reply #131 |
179. i guess it depends if you look at the NRA's false studies or not |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 11:36 AM Response to Reply #179 |
187. I was thinking of.. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 12:00 PM Response to Reply #131 |
224. Who says a majority of Americans are against "gun control?' Did someone take a vote? |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 03:16 PM Response to Reply #224 |
230. Thinking of the Gallup poll |
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primavera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-12-09 01:05 PM Response to Reply #230 |
253. There are two issues there |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-12-09 02:17 PM Response to Reply #253 |
255. *nod* I was looking more at that graph, too. |
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SlowDownFast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 03:06 AM Response to Reply #9 |
221. So we should just abolish the 2nd Amendment of the Constitution, right? |
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scribble (129 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 02:11 PM Response to Reply #1 |
16. This is an abusive post |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 03:22 PM Response to Reply #16 |
205. You are claiming she didn't say this, then? |
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VermeerLives (287 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-12-09 09:27 AM Response to Reply #205 |
248. Dittos |
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alarimer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 11:13 AM Response to Reply #1 |
184. You gun nuts can take resposibilty for these deaths then. |
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backwoodsbob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 11:17 AM Response to Reply #184 |
185. I own MANY guns |
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Blandocyte (830 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 09:14 PM Response to Reply #185 |
212. I'd think one or two guns would be enough |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 10:10 PM Response to Reply #212 |
217. Thats just ignorant.. |
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VermeerLives (287 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-12-09 09:33 AM Response to Reply #217 |
249. Thank you! |
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awoke_in_2003 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-12-09 09:49 PM Response to Reply #217 |
259. Would the Italian over under |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 07:41 PM Response to Reply #212 |
232. the "fear/scared" canard |
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gtar100 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 01:17 AM Response to Reply #185 |
219. Owning guns doesn't. It all depends on your attitude towards them, |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 02:37 PM Response to Reply #184 |
199. Deleted message |
No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 12:04 PM Response to Reply #199 |
225. What B.S. |
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doctor jazz (474 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 03:18 PM Response to Reply #184 |
203. Funny how gun grabbers never say nasty shit like that to anyone's face. |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 07:41 PM Response to Reply #184 |
231. and by your logic us civil rights nuts |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 03:50 PM Response to Reply #184 |
333. Um, did the "gun nuts" as you called them cause these deaths? |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 01:46 PM Response to Original message |
2. so Feinstein would like to see more Americans taking their lives??? |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 01:48 PM Response to Original message |
3. So how many mass killings does it take? |
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Cant trust em (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 01:50 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Which of these were done by assault rifles? |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 01:56 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Well, the killer of the three cops in Pittsburgh had an AK-47. |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 02:00 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. And where exactly can I go to pick up my AK-47? |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 02:16 PM Response to Reply #8 |
22. Try the gunbroker.com. That's where Poplawski seems to have gotten his. |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 02:22 PM Response to Reply #22 |
27. You'd need a class 3 weapons license which is next to |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 02:30 PM Response to Reply #27 |
36. I'm all for stricter enforcement of current gun laws. |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 02:34 PM Response to Reply #36 |
40. Your logic is faulty... |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 02:42 PM Response to Reply #40 |
52. Can't sell something you don't have. |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 02:43 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. Like cocaine, heroin, MJ, crack? |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 02:50 PM Response to Reply #54 |
65. If your average gun dealers have the same ethics as drug dealers... |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 02:59 PM Response to Reply #65 |
72. Not average... |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 03:04 PM Response to Reply #72 |
76. I fully support that. Fully. |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 07:50 PM Response to Reply #76 |
237. cities aren't exempt from the constitutional protections |
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one-eyed fat man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 03:00 PM Response to Reply #76 |
329. big city bullshit |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 07:49 PM Response to Reply #65 |
236. lots of things |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 04:55 PM Original message |
hell I have heard dealers in chicago calling out |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 02:38 PM Response to Reply #36 |
45. No gun merchant sells "real" AK-47s. |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 02:40 PM Response to Reply #45 |
49. Seemed to work just fine in killing those cops. |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 02:42 PM Response to Reply #49 |
53. So did the shotgun. |
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SlowDownFast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 03:20 AM Response to Reply #49 |
222. As would any standard hunting rifle - whether semi-auto or bolt action. |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 02:39 PM Original message |
*sigh* |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 02:44 PM Response to Original message |
55. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck... |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 02:50 PM Response to Reply #55 |
64. What's the difference? About 10 years in prison |
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derby378 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 03:05 PM Response to Reply #55 |
79. Maybe I can help here |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 02:10 AM Response to Reply #55 |
172. Because the knock-offs are semi-automatic |
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BrightKnight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 11:46 PM Response to Reply #172 |
218. All AK-47s are essentially cigarette lighters. |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 02:48 AM Response to Reply #218 |
220. Not true. |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 07:51 PM Response to Reply #55 |
238. because |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 02:01 PM Response to Reply #5 |
10. That's not accurate. |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 02:08 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. Guns don't kill people, police dispatchers kill people. n/t |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 02:09 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. NY gunman fired 98 shots in about a minute, police chief says |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 02:12 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. Maybe we should call it a "Sport utility Rifle" or something like that. |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 02:19 PM Response to Reply #15 |
25. Yeah, I WOULD ask what the hell the police chief knows. |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 02:23 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. Got it. Experts are not experts unless they say what you want them to say. |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 02:29 PM Response to Reply #28 |
34. Gun guys love to argue semantics- but they can't tell you how they will reduce gun violence. |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 02:34 PM Response to Reply #34 |
39. There's really only one long-term solution. |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 02:36 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. Too bad the NRA conservatives dont give a damn about poverty. |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 02:42 PM Response to Reply #41 |
50. Don't trash talk about "allies." |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 02:59 PM Response to Reply #50 |
73. So my argument stands- or at least you didn't refute it. |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 03:06 PM Response to Reply #73 |
81. Fine. Have fun playing with your strawman. |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 03:10 PM Response to Reply #81 |
84. So looking for ways to reduce gun violence is not worth disussing? I'm not suprised. |
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DeadEyeDyck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 12:22 PM Response to Reply #84 |
227. It is a matter of proportionality |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 02:48 PM Response to Reply #41 |
61. You keep repeating that as though it makes sense.. |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 02:58 PM Response to Reply #61 |
71. So people who dont want to be part of the gun culture are responsible for advocating non-violence. |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 03:05 PM Response to Reply #71 |
77. "Semantics" is the favorite word of people confronted with inconvenient facts. |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 03:19 PM Response to Reply #77 |
87. Semantics as found in NRA literature are designed to drag out the argument and confuse the public. |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 04:27 PM Response to Reply #87 |
117. That there's a difference between a hunting rifle and a machine gun. |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 05:39 PM Response to Reply #117 |
137. I'm sure there is. But no one outside of the gun culture gives a crap. |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 06:22 PM Response to Reply #137 |
147. You seem unwilling to confront my actual arguments. |
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beevul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 08:06 PM Response to Reply #137 |
157. Such bullshit. |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 03:24 PM Response to Reply #77 |
91. The number of people and cops dead is also an "inconvenient fact"... |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 03:27 PM Response to Reply #91 |
94. But -but- they could have drowned those cops in a bath tub!!! |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 08:00 PM Response to Reply #94 |
156. Or burned them when the gas tank on a crown vic bursts |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 04:37 PM Response to Reply #91 |
121. Then not to be rude, but you should understand better. |
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lanlady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-16-09 08:45 PM Response to Reply #121 |
314. No! it's a constitutional right to bear arms |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-16-09 09:08 PM Response to Reply #314 |
319. My what a pretty strawman you have there! |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 04:49 PM Response to Reply #91 |
127. No dancing here.. |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 04:19 PM Response to Reply #71 |
115. No, but don't expect an advocacy group to tackle a root cause outside their baliwick |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 05:55 PM Response to Reply #115 |
141. I fully expect the NRA and their gun-advocating allies to AVOID and OPPOSE solutions to root cause. |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 07:48 PM Response to Reply #141 |
154. Intentionally obtuse, or dodge? |
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backwoodsbob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 11:23 AM Response to Reply #41 |
186. how do you conclude nra members dont care about poverty? |
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TorchTheWitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 09:00 PM Response to Reply #39 |
163. Mental issues have a lot to do with it |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 02:29 PM Response to Reply #28 |
35. No, experts who don't know what they're talking about aren't experts. |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 02:38 PM Response to Reply #35 |
46. So where, praytell, did those 98 bullets come from? |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 02:49 PM Response to Reply #46 |
63. Again, you're talking about myths. |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 02:53 PM Response to Reply #63 |
66. Regardless, the Alabama shooter did use assault weapons. |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 02:57 PM Response to Reply #66 |
70. No, he used one "assault weapon" and several other guns. |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 04:11 PM Response to Reply #46 |
113. Any weapon that can be easily converted to full auto, is regulated AS a full auto, since 1986. |
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RamboLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 03:30 PM Response to Reply #35 |
97. Oh yeah you can put 98 rounds out in about a minute |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 04:16 PM Response to Reply #97 |
114. Let's play "Which is more likely." |
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RamboLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 06:07 PM Response to Reply #114 |
145. Go back and look at the video I posted |
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BrightKnight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 03:42 PM Response to Reply #25 |
105. An AK47 is a pure bred submachine gun based military assault weapon. |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 04:21 PM Response to Reply #105 |
116. What in the hell are you talking about? That's not an AK-47. |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 04:31 PM Response to Reply #116 |
119. So this is bullshit? |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 04:39 PM Response to Reply #119 |
124. Yes, it's bullshit. |
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BrightKnight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 05:47 PM Response to Reply #124 |
139. A motorized cam in the trigger housing (modified gat trigger) works great. |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 06:25 PM Response to Reply #139 |
148. There's all sorts of ways to get around it. They're all illegal. |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 08:05 PM Response to Reply #116 |
241. i've been a cop for 20 yrs and i have NEVER |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 07:58 PM Response to Reply #105 |
155. You guys just keep getting dumber. |
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corruptmewithpower (411 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 09:42 PM Response to Reply #105 |
166. Do we have a problem with people being machine gunned to death? |
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kenfrequed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 11:07 AM Response to Reply #25 |
181. Ok |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 11:45 AM Response to Reply #181 |
189. The 1934 NFA doesn't really make that distinction.. |
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kenfrequed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 02:06 PM Response to Reply #189 |
194. right |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 02:14 PM Response to Reply #194 |
195. *nod* |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 07:55 PM Response to Reply #25 |
240. yes you can |
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saigon68 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-16-09 01:12 PM Response to Reply #25 |
299. You can't argue with these sheep |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 07:54 PM Response to Reply #15 |
239. so fricking what? |
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FudaFuda (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 02:11 PM Response to Reply #10 |
17. 2 of the cops were killed with a shotgun, not the AK. |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 02:14 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. Thank God it was a shot gun and not some more dangerous type of gun. |
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FudaFuda (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 02:23 PM Response to Reply #20 |
29. Well, the shotgun is about as deadly as small arms get at close quarters |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 02:31 PM Response to Reply #29 |
37. Shotguns are used for hunting birds, skeet shooting and general sporting activities as well. |
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FudaFuda (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 02:37 PM Response to Reply #37 |
44. What're you getting at? |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 03:03 PM Response to Reply #44 |
75. What are you getting at? Certainly not ways to reduce gun violecne, that is for sure. |
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FudaFuda (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 03:16 PM Response to Reply #75 |
85. see #67 nt. |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 03:23 PM Response to Reply #85 |
90. See post 41. Your conservative gun absolutist allies don't have your back on that one. |
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FudaFuda (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 03:29 PM Response to Reply #90 |
95. I don't know what you're speaking of, but #67 is about US homicide rates |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 05:47 PM Response to Reply #95 |
138. So you can't present a viable solution to gun violence that a majority of NRA types would support. |
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FudaFuda (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 10:18 PM Response to Reply #138 |
169. I can't say NRA would 'en masse' support it, but my solution is simple |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 09:55 PM Response to Reply #138 |
215. It's not our job- and your posts on this thread are an attempt at forced teaming. |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 08:09 PM Response to Reply #29 |
242. i'd rather confront a guy with an ar.sks, or ak |
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derby378 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 02:47 PM Response to Reply #10 |
59. I should remind you of HR 1022 (from 2007) |
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TorchTheWitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 08:50 PM Response to Reply #10 |
162. I don't think it would have mattered |
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atreides1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 02:39 PM Response to Reply #5 |
48. two pistols |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 04:05 PM Response to Reply #5 |
112. The SKS isn't an assault rifle. |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 09:37 PM Response to Reply #112 |
165. Yes, I corrected myself in a subsequent post. |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 01:58 AM Response to Reply #165 |
170. The AR-15 probably does qualify as an Assault Weapon, depending on how it's configured. |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 07:44 PM Response to Reply #5 |
234. he had a SEMI-AUTO |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 02:29 PM Response to Reply #4 |
33. Possibly three |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 07:43 PM Response to Reply #3 |
233. i know plenty of dead cops |
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geomon666 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 01:58 PM Response to Original message |
6. The check must have cleared. n/t |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 01:59 PM Response to Original message |
7. "The National Rifle Association essentially has a stranglehold on the Congress." |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 02:26 PM Response to Reply #7 |
30. That's a smart way of putting it. "Sick and tired of dead cops? Tell the NRA!" |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 08:14 PM Response to Reply #30 |
243. the NRA helps cops |
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blue97keet (390 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 02:28 PM Response to Reply #7 |
32. Do the free-traders have a stranglehold on congress too? |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 02:33 PM Response to Reply #32 |
38. Could be- why not start a topic on that? |
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doctor jazz (474 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 03:22 PM Response to Reply #7 |
204. She is an idiot and that statement is completely batshit nuts. |
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No More Bushbots (192 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 02:03 PM Response to Original message |
11. Feinstein is a realist |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 02:07 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. The majority of Americans do favor reasonable gun regualtions- but who can fight the NRA? |
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No More Bushbots (192 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 02:39 PM Response to Reply #13 |
47. Except the NRA does not represent the majority of Americans |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 03:05 PM Response to Reply #47 |
80. Yet they have more influecne than any lobby's that would represent the majority of Americans. |
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FudaFuda (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 03:33 PM Response to Reply #13 |
99. We already have reasonable gun regulations. |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 02:05 PM Response to Original message |
12. THAT'S TOO BAD. NT |
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pfitz59 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 02:13 PM Response to Original message |
19. Feinstein has profited from gun violence! |
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corruptmewithpower (411 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 02:15 PM Response to Original message |
21. Feinstein should talk to Pelosi before Pelosi starts a civil war. |
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ShareTheWoods (210 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 02:18 PM Response to Original message |
23. She finally admits gun control is a political tool only. |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 02:19 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. I agree- I think the DEMS should be very matter of fact about this. n/t |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 02:19 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. I believe that they're holding funerals in Pittsburgh and Binghamtom today. |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 02:27 PM Response to Original message |
31. Question: What is the Gun Lobby's plan to reduce gun violence? |
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No More Bushbots (192 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 02:42 PM Response to Reply #31 |
51. So you are against enforcing the law? |
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FudaFuda (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 02:53 PM Response to Reply #31 |
67. Homicide by firearm in the USA is about 2/3 what it was in 1992-93 |
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Tim01 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 04:38 PM Response to Reply #67 |
122. This should have it's own thread. People would be surprised. |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 05:41 AM Response to Reply #67 |
175. Due to the aging of the (late) baby boomers |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 03:01 PM Response to Reply #31 |
74. Madatory yearly psychological evaluation for anyone purchasing semi-automatic weapons. |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 03:08 PM Response to Reply #74 |
83. Aside from being wildly, astronomicly unconstitutional? |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 03:16 PM Response to Reply #83 |
86. How so? Particularly, how is shooting a gun "freedom of speech"? |
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FudaFuda (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 03:20 PM Response to Reply #86 |
88. Actually, you might not have the right to 'not' bear arms. |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 03:25 PM Response to Reply #88 |
92. Nope, I'm a chick. |
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FudaFuda (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 03:22 PM Response to Reply #86 |
89. Driving is a privilege, not a right. |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 03:27 PM Response to Reply #89 |
93. And felons are not allowed to own firearms. |
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FudaFuda (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 03:36 PM Response to Reply #93 |
101. US Supreme Ct. disagrees with you. So does the Constitution. |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 03:38 PM Response to Reply #101 |
102. The felons must be rejoicing. |
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FudaFuda (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 03:39 PM Response to Reply #102 |
103. not re: felons. I meant your assertion that firearms are a privilege. |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 03:44 PM Response to Reply #103 |
106. If everyone is not allowed to have them, how could they be considered a "right"? |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 05:31 PM Response to Reply #106 |
136. It's as much of a right as voting |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 05:58 PM Response to Reply #136 |
142. States have their own regulations too. |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 10:13 PM Response to Reply #106 |
168. You don't have the right to yell fire in a crowded theater I guess that's a privilege too. |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 02:02 AM Response to Reply #106 |
171. Actually, Felons and the Mentally Ill have a process by which |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 09:56 AM Response to Reply #171 |
177. "Rights" are not always absolute. |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 08:17 PM Response to Reply #93 |
244. felons aren;'t allowed to vote either |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 04:47 PM Response to Reply #86 |
126. Did you read my message? |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 04:55 PM Response to Reply #126 |
129. Yes I did. But many states already prevent mentally ill persons from owning firearms. |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 06:35 PM Response to Reply #129 |
150. What I'm pointing out is that there's a slippery slope. |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 08:25 PM Response to Reply #150 |
160. That's a very good point. |
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BrightKnight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 03:54 PM Response to Reply #74 |
110. Almost all guns are semi-automatic and perhaps you need an evaluation. - n/t |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 05:23 PM Response to Reply #110 |
134. Personally, I think we all do. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 08:12 PM Response to Reply #134 |
159. I think your POV is interesting and has some merit |
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Djinn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 02:45 AM Response to Reply #74 |
173. extend that to mandatory drug/acohol tests |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 05:42 AM Response to Reply #31 |
176. You stumped the panel with that one! ... eom |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 10:09 PM Response to Reply #31 |
216. Why should the 'gun lobby' need come up with a plan? |
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NV Whino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 02:36 PM Response to Original message |
42. Wonder how much money she got from the NRA? |
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Xolodno (310 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 02:37 PM Response to Original message |
43. Advocating gun control right now.... |
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No More Bushbots (192 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 02:44 PM Response to Reply #43 |
56. By all means, put truth to the lie that Obama wants to take your guns |
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Xolodno (310 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 02:55 PM Response to Reply #56 |
69. Precisely.... |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 02:45 PM Response to Original message |
57. The old ban was completely ineffective at reducing violent crime |
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The abyss (930 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 02:46 PM Response to Original message |
58. The way this usually works… |
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Jennicut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 02:47 PM Response to Original message |
60. I used to be for gun control back in the 90's but I am no so sure it really worked |
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pattmarty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 02:48 PM Response to Original message |
62. Feinstein should be voted out. She is a conservative Dem and................... |
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Xolodno (310 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 02:53 PM Response to Reply #62 |
68. I'm expecting... |
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pattmarty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 05:54 PM Response to Reply #68 |
140. Jesus, the whole fucking country is going nuts. I lived In Ill for 54 yrs................. |
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apr09 (33 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 03:05 PM Response to Original message |
78. I think Feinstein favors gun control |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 03:08 PM Response to Reply #78 |
82. It's her personal "mission" |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 03:56 PM Response to Reply #82 |
111. Should she? |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 04:43 PM Response to Reply #111 |
125. It's not a rational basis for public policy |
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Malikshah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 03:30 PM Response to Original message |
96. When is the time dipshit Diane? |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 03:45 PM Response to Reply #96 |
107. She's probably right on this one |
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Malikshah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 09:11 PM Response to Reply #107 |
164. Yup-- nothing like being the last fatality before folks wake the hell up... |
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RamboLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 03:32 PM Response to Original message |
98. "I'll pick the time and the place, no question about it" |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 03:35 PM Response to Reply #98 |
100. Well if now is not the "time and place" after all the mass murders and cop killings... |
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RamboLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 03:47 PM Response to Reply #100 |
108. Especially when liberal gun owners like myself will join |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 03:52 PM Response to Reply #108 |
109. You're assuming that I think that ban was the solution. |
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appal_jack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 04:28 PM Response to Reply #109 |
118. How many other civil rights should depend on geography? |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 04:33 PM Response to Reply #118 |
120. Lol. Come up here and put on a badge and a uniform. |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 06:11 PM Response to Reply #118 |
146. Certain First Amendment rights do depend on geography. Ever heard of "Community Standards"? |
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DrCory (862 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 08:39 PM Response to Reply #146 |
161. Do You Also... |
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damntexdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 03:39 PM Response to Original message |
104. No, instead we need a few thousand more unnecessary deaths. |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 06:04 PM Response to Reply #104 |
144. That is true- and the gun advocates will do nothing to prevent those deaths either. |
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Celeborn Skywalker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 06:46 PM Response to Reply #144 |
153. There's less murder per capita now |
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Tim01 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 04:39 PM Response to Original message |
123. Maybe the panic buying will ease up. |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 04:54 PM Response to Original message |
128. in light of last years supreme court decision |
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csibona (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 05:29 PM Response to Reply #128 |
135. It is not so clear that NOTHING can be done |
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smiley_glad_hands (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 05:07 PM Response to Original message |
132. We dont need gun control, we need THE FAIRNESS DOCTRINE. eom |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 05:22 PM Response to Original message |
133. Anti-gun nut anyone? You'd think we would have learned about knee jerk reacting by now. |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 06:00 PM Response to Reply #133 |
143. So your solution to gun violence is more guns. What about people who have no interest in guns? |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 06:35 PM Response to Reply #143 |
151. Did I say that everyone should buy a gun for self defense? NO! |
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Tim01 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 06:36 PM Response to Reply #143 |
152. Fair enough. |
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Djinn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 02:53 AM Response to Reply #152 |
174. fix the wealth gap |
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primavera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-12-09 12:55 PM Response to Reply #174 |
251. Yep, that's a big part of the problem |
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PittPoliSci (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 11:40 AM Response to Reply #133 |
188. citizens shouldn't be able to outgun police officers. |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 11:59 AM Response to Reply #188 |
190. Actually, that's the intent.. or part of it. |
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PittPoliSci (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 08:41 PM Response to Reply #190 |
209. jefferson was also relatively alone in that opinion. |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 09:36 PM Response to Reply #209 |
214. Point.. but |
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PittPoliSci (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 02:52 PM Response to Reply #214 |
229. cool. let me know if you find it. |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-12-09 08:34 PM Response to Reply #188 |
257. We can't. Police officers have ready access to automatic weapons; non-LEO's don't. |
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Tim01 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 06:29 PM Response to Original message |
149. That's correct. I'll pick the time and the place, no question about it," Feinstein tells Stahl. |
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bitchkitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 08:09 PM Response to Original message |
158. Not the time? |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 09:46 PM Response to Reply #158 |
167. Let's see your plan |
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bitchkitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 08:58 PM Response to Reply #167 |
210. If I was in charge, I would put it |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-12-09 09:51 PM Response to Reply #210 |
260. I'm fine with a truly fair vote |
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TEmperorHasNoClothes (356 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 10:09 AM Response to Original message |
178. the "right to bear arms" doesn't have to mean semiautomatics..... |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 12:07 PM Response to Reply #178 |
191. Right. And free speech doesn't have to mean anything other than face-to-face speech. |
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Mr. Hyde (314 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 05:24 PM Response to Reply #178 |
208. but "shall not be infringed upon" pretty much means "shall not be infringed upon". nt |
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scrinmaster (563 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 11:10 AM Response to Original message |
182. Just as the 1st and 4th amendments shouldn't have been restricted after 9/11 |
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alarimer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 11:12 AM Response to Original message |
183. Over 50 fucking people have died in the last month. |
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scrinmaster (563 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 12:49 PM Response to Reply #183 |
192. 3000 people died on 9/11. |
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FudaFuda (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 12:55 PM Response to Reply #183 |
193. And about 1400 are killed each month by drunk drivers. |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 02:17 PM Response to Reply #193 |
196. Yes. I would like to do something about that. |
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FudaFuda (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 02:23 PM Response to Reply #196 |
197. Yes, I do every day, by not driving drunk. I would also support ... |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 02:34 PM Response to Reply #197 |
198. You don't think that breathalyzer ignitions intrude upon our rights too much? |
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FudaFuda (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 03:02 PM Response to Reply #198 |
200. Driving isn't a right. |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 03:06 PM Response to Reply #200 |
201. Both are regulated by the government. |
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FudaFuda (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 03:15 PM Response to Reply #201 |
202. West Virginia. Relatively low crime rate here. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 08:23 PM Response to Reply #196 |
245. We did do something about it, we enforced drunk driving laws. The rate has been dropping. |
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one-eyed fat man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 03:38 PM Response to Reply #196 |
332. if you handle the |
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doctor jazz (474 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 03:26 PM Response to Reply #183 |
206. What's your proposal? I see a lot of breast-beating from gun grabbers but other than |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 09:18 PM Response to Reply #183 |
213. In case you haven't noticed, the "typecasting" isn't working... |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 04:01 PM Response to Original message |
207. The response to this shows the mindset behind the Patriot Act's approval |
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Blandocyte (830 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 09:13 PM Response to Original message |
211. Eff guns. If we had 75% of them off the street |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-12-09 12:21 AM Response to Reply #211 |
247. Even the Old West got it right . . ."Check your guns with the bartender" . . . |
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SlowDownFast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 04:02 AM Response to Original message |
223. What part of "Shall Not Be Infringed" |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 12:09 PM Response to Reply #223 |
226. What part of 'No Constitutional right is absolute" do you not understand? And what part of |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 07:47 PM Response to Reply #226 |
235. Settled law now, you'll just have to get over it. |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
228. Very good. (nt) |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-12-09 12:14 AM Response to Original message |
246. When Democrats are in power, the NRA brings out the full moon . . . |
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primavera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-12-09 12:49 PM Response to Original message |
250. No, apparently it's never the right time for gun control in this country |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-12-09 01:01 PM Response to Original message |
252. It's also not the time for getting out of Iraq, or Universal health care, |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 01:04 AM Response to Reply #252 |
265. Feinstein just realized that the DLC/Third Way program for gun control is a loser |
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cottonseed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-12-09 01:59 PM Response to Original message |
254. Good. I love guns. |
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Joe Steel (337 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-12-09 02:50 PM Response to Original message |
256. It's time to abandon the Democratic Party. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-12-09 09:53 PM Response to Reply #256 |
261. You're really saying that anyone who disagrees with you is abnormal and/or irrational |
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Joe Steel (337 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 06:43 AM Response to Reply #261 |
266. So? |
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Joe Steel (337 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 09:08 AM Response to Reply #261 |
268. On second thought... |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 05:27 PM Response to Reply #268 |
274. You still don't get it - The US doesn't allow unregulated sales of military weapons either |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-12-09 11:42 PM Response to Reply #256 |
262. You were doing fine until you . . . |
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Joe Steel (337 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 06:48 AM Response to Reply #262 |
267. There's more to the Democratic Party than gay rights and abortion... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 11:45 AM Response to Reply #267 |
270. So what you're saying is you're not an anti-abortion or anti-gay rights fanatic . . .? |
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Joe Steel (337 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 12:18 PM Response to Reply #270 |
271. I'm not. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 12:20 PM Response to Reply #271 |
272. My point is that many who are anti-choice and anti-gay rights are fanatical . . . |
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Joe Steel (337 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 01:12 PM Response to Reply #272 |
273. I agree with what you said but... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 10:07 PM Response to Reply #273 |
275. When you say . . . . |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 04:48 PM Response to Reply #275 |
276. Half of gun owners are Dems and indies... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 10:11 PM Response to Reply #276 |
277. And you think regulating guns means taking them away from you . . . ??? |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-15-09 07:06 AM Response to Reply #277 |
278. If by regulation you mean background checks and prohibition on possession by criminals, no. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-15-09 12:42 PM Response to Reply #278 |
279. So there is regulation you are not opposed to . . . ??? |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-15-09 01:09 PM Response to Reply #279 |
280. Yes, there is. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-15-09 01:36 PM Response to Reply #280 |
282. OKay . . . so regulation doesn't automatically mean taking away guns . . . |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-15-09 02:31 PM Response to Reply #282 |
283. Thoughts... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-15-09 05:43 PM Response to Reply #283 |
285. Rapid fire "recreation" . . . ? |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-15-09 06:19 PM Response to Reply #285 |
286. Ferguson used a handgun.. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-15-09 07:57 PM Response to Reply #286 |
288. You wouldn't be trying to be evasive, would you? Because that would |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-15-09 09:56 PM Response to Reply #288 |
289. All pistols and revolvers "fire repeatedly without reloading." |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-16-09 10:38 AM Response to Reply #289 |
292. Whatever gun Ferguson had gave him the ability to create a great deal of damage . . . |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-16-09 10:53 AM Response to Reply #292 |
294. You own the chemicals used to blow up the london transit |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-16-09 01:09 PM Response to Reply #292 |
298. The same as any other civilian gun, though. It was not some super-weapon, merely identical |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-15-09 10:25 PM Response to Reply #288 |
290. Maybe I misunderstood you.. |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-16-09 07:05 AM Response to Reply #290 |
291. Actually, over-10-round pistol magazines were readily available during the non-ban... |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-15-09 06:58 PM Response to Reply #285 |
287. Here's the type of gun that Colin Ferguson used: |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-16-09 01:28 PM Response to Reply #287 |
300. I must be mistaken then . . . Colin Ferguson murdered no one . . . I'm corrected. |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-16-09 06:16 PM Response to Reply #300 |
306. I was talking about so-called "assault weapons" (modern-looking non-automatic rifles) |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-16-09 07:39 PM Response to Reply #306 |
308. It was perfectly clear what I was saying . . .. that what Ferguson used . . . |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-16-09 08:55 PM Response to Reply #308 |
317. "That weapon" was a 9mm pistol, like most police USED to carry |
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one-eyed fat man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 09:14 PM Response to Reply #308 |
335. what gave him the opportunity |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-15-09 01:11 PM Response to Reply #279 |
281. show "purpose" for gun ownership? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-16-09 10:51 AM Response to Reply #281 |
293. The concept of a stated purpose/or need for a weapon -- i.e., license . . . |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-16-09 11:00 AM Response to Reply #293 |
296. Any 22 rifle can be used to create a mass casualty |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-16-09 01:29 PM Response to Reply #296 |
301. Again, the NRA insanity prevails . . . REGULATION is not taking guns away . . . |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-16-09 04:21 PM Response to Reply #301 |
304. You want proof of need for "furgeson" gun |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-16-09 07:46 PM Response to Reply #304 |
309. WE ALL MAKE THAT CALL ....not the right-wing NRA ..... |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-16-09 08:54 PM Response to Reply #309 |
316. I presume you read the constitution |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-16-09 09:40 PM Response to Reply #309 |
321. You're right, we all make that call. And the overwhelming majority |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-16-09 06:18 PM Response to Reply #301 |
307. What if my "need" for a "Ferguson gun" (aka ordinary pistol) doesn't pass your criteria? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-16-09 07:52 PM Response to Reply #307 |
310. It should be up to the public to decide and Congress -- not the right-wing NRA . . .!!! |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-16-09 08:34 PM Response to Reply #310 |
313. Umm, my 9mm would be a clitoris, not a penis, but I understand your desire to frame it sexually. |
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one-eyed fat man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 03:31 PM Response to Reply #310 |
331. prior to 1986 |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-16-09 11:42 AM Response to Reply #293 |
297. A few responses.. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-16-09 01:35 PM Response to Reply #297 |
302. NRA is pushing "concealed" weapons for everyone . . . good for the nation??? |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-16-09 02:08 PM Response to Reply #302 |
303. Not sure of the point you're making, can you clarify? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-16-09 08:06 PM Response to Reply #303 |
311. You're saying the NRA is ensuring that EVERYONE who wants a concealed weapon can have one . . . |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-16-09 09:04 PM Response to Reply #311 |
318. It's about choice.. you wish to limit them to what you say I 'need'. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-16-09 10:10 PM Response to Reply #318 |
323. I want the public and Congress to decide on gun control . . . as they have---!!! |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-17-09 08:29 AM Response to Reply #323 |
327. Yes, the public have.. |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-16-09 05:54 PM Response to Reply #302 |
305. I hold a North Carolina carry license. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-16-09 08:27 PM Response to Reply #305 |
312. And if Ferguson had a license everything would have been OK? |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-16-09 09:17 PM Response to Reply #312 |
320. More thoughts... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-16-09 09:48 PM Response to Reply #320 |
322. The question is . . . why permit these guns . . . . ? |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-16-09 10:17 PM Response to Reply #322 |
324. Thankfully I do not live in NJ. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-16-09 10:24 PM Response to Reply #324 |
325. There are lots of things wrong with law/police enforcement everywhere . .. espeically DC--!!! |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-16-09 11:14 PM Response to Reply #322 |
326. It's not a question of "permitting" them; we already own them. |
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FudaFuda (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 03:06 PM Response to Reply #302 |
330. US homicide rate is down sharply since CCW started, so yeah |
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wordpix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-12-09 09:18 PM Response to Original message |
258. "The National Rifle Association essentially has a stranglehold on the Congress." |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-12-09 11:43 PM Response to Reply #258 |
263. NRA has a lot of right wing money to target elected officials . . . |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-15-09 02:36 PM Response to Reply #263 |
284. I would point out that 80 million concerned voters probably weigh much more |
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armodem08 (186 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 12:08 AM Response to Original message |
264. I have an idea... |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-13-09 10:37 AM Response to Reply #264 |
269. She won't let go |
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Tejas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 06:00 AM Response to Reply #269 |
328. She didn't care about the Democratic party in 1994, and could care less now. |
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knixphan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-16-09 10:59 AM Response to Original message |
295. I'll be backing her primary opponent- |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-16-09 08:49 PM Response to Original message |
315. I don't agree but understand the strategery |
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steven johnson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-22-09 05:46 PM Response to Original message |
334. Don't disarm citizens- the road to tyrrany |
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