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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 11:07 AM
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Elder Bush: Son held to principles after attacks
Source: AP

NEW ORLEANS (AP) — Former President George H.W. Bush says he's proud of how his son held to his principles during his presidency and kept the U.S. safe after the 2001 terror attacks.

Addressing the National Automobile Dealers Association in New Orleans, Bush also said Monday he believes that if the United States had tried to get Saddam Hussein to surrender during Operation Desert Storm — during his presidency — some of the problems the U.S. has since faced may have been avoided.

...

While the elder Bush believes the U.S. military action to eject Saddam's forces from Kuwait in the first Gulf War was a success, he also said, "I think a cleaner ending would have been perfect."

He said his experts had told him they didn't think the then-leader of Iraq would surrender. But he added he has since come to wonder if he might have.

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"But neither is it political for a very proud father to note how our son served with honor and held fast to his principles and kept our nation safe," he said to applause Monday.

Read more: http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jBjIjNtYVFkvjjNKbDW4iGyGuUpgD95V77O80
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 11:08 AM
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1. LOL.
:popcorn::popcorn:
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 12:24 PM
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19. What Principles?
I'm President, and You're Not? Is that a principle?
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apnu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 12:29 PM
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20. I had the same reaction. LOL (nt)
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 11:10 AM
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2. Sure...You can think that about your no good, alcoholic, dimwitted son,
and if it gets you thru your dotage, fine...just don't expect much agreement.
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wake.up.america Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 11:11 AM
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3. I would be ashamed to have a son like GWB. BTW... Appropriate place for such remarks, I would say.
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Blaze Diem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 11:11 AM
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4. Ya, "served with honor", as dimson & his criminal cronies ran the biggest money grab in US history.
honor..pfffft
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 11:11 AM
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5. Move to Paraguay with your dimwitted son and STFU. nt.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 11:12 AM
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6. How come our country suffers when one sticks to conservative principles?
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 11:16 AM
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7. Translation:
He ignored reality while clinging to his foolish ideologies, at a tremendous cost to the nation.
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Vanje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 11:17 AM
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8. The main "principle" being....
Dont bother any of Dad's Saudi friends and business partners, even if members of their families crashed airplanes into our buildings and killed 3000 civilians.

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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 01:46 PM
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26. Yep
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 11:17 AM
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9. The only problem was
the dumwit didn't have any principles to hold onto.
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noise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 11:17 AM
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10. Over seven years later
we don't know what happened on 9/11. For example, Bush ordered the classification of 28 pages of the JI report which deal with Saudi support for alHazmi and alMidhar in San Diego. There is no way for the public to assess Bush's CT tactics because everything he did is so secretive. We do know from Jane Mayer that much of the information by way of torture wasn't useful and we do know from James Bamford that the NSA listened to personal conversations of citizens in no way linked to terrorism.

Using torture was honorable? Indefinite detention was honorable? Exploiting the 9/11 victims at every turn was honorable? Spying on Americans was honorable?

The Bush family prefers an ignorant public. Only by deceiving the public can they talk of honor and pride and actually have a few people believe it.
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Baby Snooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 11:33 AM
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11. Just a poor Saudi family in San Diego...
That was Prince Bandar's "explanation" of the checks Princess Haifa wrote that was used to fund the hijackings. His wife was merely helping a poor Saudi family in San Diego. He of course knew nothing about it. I don't know too many poor Saudi families. And most Saudi women, even the princesses, would not dare to write checks without their husband's approval. If they were even allowed to have a checkbook.

This all came out as a result of the Riggs Bank investigations. And of course when attention turned to Princess Haifa and subpoenas were about to be issued, the royal couple returned suddenly to Saudi Arabia on "urgent family business." Prince Bandar has returned of course. But not Princess Haifa. And she never will. Someone might hand her a subpoena. Particularly now that the Bushes are no longer in the White House.

Friends of the Bushes. Enemies of the American people.

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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 11:33 AM
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12. Murderers can be very principled people. nt
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 11:40 AM
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13. He didn't keep us safe during 9/11 did he?
Ignored the Aug. 6th memo warning of an attack and ignored all the warnings about Al Queda given by Clinton.

The Bush Crime Family have an extremely delusional view of events. :silly:
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 01:43 PM
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25. Baby Bush was incomptent
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Maeve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 11:51 AM
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14. WHICH f'ing principles?!?!?!
Not principles against torture, for the rule of law, for honest, competent and transparent government...not the Christian principles of 'do unto others as you would have them do' or even 'what you do to the least of these'...:argh:
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 11:57 AM
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15. "held to principles" = "did whatever cheney demanded."
A fucking mafia was in control of our country.
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The Blue Flower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 12:00 PM
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16. Nat'l Automobile Dealers?
You mean that desperate group of folks who are drowning in the bush depression? Any group that would still pay a bush to feed them the crap that got them into this mess deserves to go extinct.
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scytherius Donating Member (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 12:00 PM
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17. I didn't know "stupidity" was a principle. n/t
nt
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 12:20 PM
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18. He sure did - Rich get richer, poor get poorer, bomb the A-rabs, bend over for oil companies...
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TEXASYANKEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 12:40 PM
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21. He kept us safe ....
... before he DIDN'T keep us safe. They always seem to forget that particular aspect of 9/11.
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 12:59 PM
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22. Too bad they weren't American Principles
good riddance fuckwad
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 01:03 PM
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23. It's a shame he didn't have a few principles before 9/11.
Like not being on vacation most of the time and not ignoring written memos indicating the attacks might take place. Poppy ought to refrain from commenting. It's like Charlie Manson's father was trying to justify all the people Charlie killed.
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sutz12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 01:31 PM
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24. Of course he did...
If you lose your principle, you won't collect any interest.

:sarcasm:
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Flagg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 01:58 PM
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27. You'll be lucky if your son doesn't end up at the Hague
now STFU
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 02:00 PM
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28. Will someone please drive a wooden stake
through that old prick's chest, in the spot where a heart might be in a normal, sentient, compassionate human being?

Then, please do the same to that foul, evil bitch of a wife of his, the origin of all this filth.

And wouldn't it be nice if this old fucker and Bubba maybe could get together and use their wealthy connections to raise money for the victims of Fuckface's eight years in office here in the United States, and maybe help people put food on their tables, or roofs over their heads?

I'm sick of their "do-good" bullshit all over the world. Charity begins at home, that's what I was taught.

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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 02:01 PM
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29. Principles of ignorance and stupidity?
On that, I would agree.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 02:11 PM
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30. oh yeah right he attacked a country that had nothing to do with 9/11
what frigging planet do these people live on.
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 03:29 PM
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31. Wouldn't he need to have some principles first? n/t
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 03:33 PM
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32. Oh, and is he proud that thousands of soldiers and hundreds of thousands
of Iraqis died for absolutely no reason? What a tool.
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 03:40 PM
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33. Maybe Junior is laying a guilt trip on Poppy
and blaming daddy for his own mess. I can just hear him, "Well, if you'd taken care of it in your administration, this wouldn't have happened."
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prayin4rain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 03:47 PM
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34. He did hold to his principles..... that was the problem n/t
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 05:02 PM
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35. Once again, junior is hiding behind his father's skirts
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 06:35 PM
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36. yeah... the principles of an Unamerican Fascist Loser
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