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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 01:25 AM
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Obama Pushes for $50 Billion for Automakers, Oversight Czar
Source: Bloomberg

President-elect Barack Obama is pushing Congress this year to approve as much as $50 billion to save cash-starved U.S. automakers and appoint a czar or board to oversee the companies, a move that would require President George W. Bush's support, people familiar with the matter said.

Obama's economic advisers are now convinced that if General Motors Corp. doesn't get a financial lifeline soon, it will have to file for bankruptcy by the end of January. And if the companies don't get almost $50 billion, Obama will be dealing with the issue again by next summer.

Any czar or board would be patterned after the bailout of Chrysler in 1979 and New York City in 1975. Advisers such as former Federal Reserve Chairman Paul Volcker and former Treasury Secretary Lawrence Summers are said to be telling Obama that the cash is urgently needed now.

Congress would have to act in a lame-duck session that begins next week. Obama would need Bush's backing to pass such a sweeping and costly measure in part because Democrats don't have enough votes to force a floor vote or override a veto. Obama also would need strong support from auto-producing states such as Michigan, Ohio, Indiana, Illinois and Wisconsin to pass such a sweeping and costly measure.

Read more: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aBlCucXR33Jw&refer=home
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amitta Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 01:43 AM
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1. no strings attached
and the oversight board will be criminals just like the wall street heist.
Obama needs to dump his ecomonic advisors.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 01:49 AM
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sce56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 01:51 AM
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3. What is an ecomonic? Is that like moronic?
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 02:02 AM
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5. Yeah, Paul A.Volcker and Lawrence Summers - what a couple of morons!
:eyes:
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 02:04 AM
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6. That's not what the article stated
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Dems4me Donating Member (273 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 02:05 AM
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7. There will be strings attached. Chrysler had to repay the government
for the money it was loaned. I'm sure GM will have to payback
the loan over time with tight oversight on the governments part
to help insure it is repaid. There are a lot of jobs on the line
if GM goes under including loss for rebound jobs associated with
GM.
This is all risky to be sure, since our economic
situation is a first for any country, there are no 'for sure' answers.
I quess they assume it may be riskier for our country to do nothing
than to try the loan and fail.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 02:17 AM
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9. people who invested in chrysler stock at that time made a pile of money.
chrysler came out with the mini-van and the rest was history.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 04:04 AM
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12. Thanks for remembering
The mini-van and Jeep portions of the business are what ALL of the parties invoved in the break up of Chrysler are interested in.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 05:02 AM
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13. jeep is still selling well around the world.
Edited on Thu Nov-13-08 05:04 AM by madrchsod
jeep is the only thing that is keeping belvedere plant going. the germans rebuilt that plant for about 750million and what did they end up giving away Chrysler for.

i have owned 5 dodge mini-vans and i`m still trying to find a first generation van in good shape
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 01:57 AM
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4. I was really hoping to see any bailout auto industry loans attached to new technology
Green Revolution Baby!
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sce56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 03:44 AM
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11. Yeah Like this here car



http://zeropollutionmotors.us/

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Look at this earlier thread
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 02:13 AM
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8. if they can get the volt into production
then half the battle will be won.obama will have no trouble getting support in the rust belt states.

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Politicalboi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 03:13 AM
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10. Air Cars
Hemp is a great fuel too. They need to scrap gas guzzlers and start green. I think Hemp has a future and it should be used for all kinds of things. Cheaper than corn better than natural gas.
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pjt7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 08:07 AM
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14. Detroit auto giants needs to get smaller
no matter how painful that may be. They are too bloated & are making inferior products. Just throwing them $ Billions is a losing proposal. Let them go into a controlled bankruptcy, trim their own companies into something sustainable & then give them the money for development of superior products.

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