GA Voting Problems

[struggle4progress]

Source: Associated Press

ATLANTA (AP) Hundreds of voters in southwest Atlanta were
waiting in line until nearly 10:30 p.m. Thursday because of
computer problems at an advanced voting location.

Matt Carrothers, spokesman for the Georgia Secretary of State's
office, said some of the computers at the Adamsville recreation
center had trouble connecting to the state's voting system
throughout the evening ...

Lisa Borders, president of the Atlanta City Council, estimated
there were about 600 people in line at 9 p.m. The center closed at
7 p.m. but allowed voters already in line to cast ballots ...

Read more: http://www.wctv.tv/news/headlines/33618104.html

[salguine]

1. HOW MANY FUCKING YEARS DOES THIS FUCKING SHIT HAVE TO

FUCKING CONTINUE BEFORE WE FUCKING DUMP ALL THE FUCKING GLORIOUS NEWFANGLED PIECES OF FUCKING SHIT VOTING MACHINES INTO THE FUCKING OCEAN AND GO BACK TO FUCKING PAPER BALLOTS LIKE WE FUCKING USED IN EVERY FUCKING ELECTION UP UNTIL FUCKING 2000 AND WITH WHICH WE NEVER FUCKING HAD ANY FUCKING TROUBLE WHATSOEVER? GOD FUCKING DAMMIT!

[Peace Patriot]

4. Hear, hear! nt

[tclambert]

6. Now, now. Paper isn't perfect

Way back in the before-time, we used to have a phenomenon known as "stuffing the ballot box." You point over there and say, "Wow, that girl looks like Doris Day." And when the others look, you put a handful of fake ballots in the box. Then later someone asks, "How do we have 300 votes in the box when only 200 people came through the door?"

Computers, however, can make errors and fraud much more efficient.

[salguine]

25. But your own example shows that "stuffing the ballot box" is harder to get away with because

you have the evidence right there in your hands. There's a paper trail. At least that's something. The Diebold machines don't even have that. And Diebold officials act insulted when a machine that can print a paper receipt is requested.

[olddad56]

13. impressive vocabulary.

[salguine]

24. I actually have a rich and expansive vocabulary, and I know how to use it to the fullest. But I also

have a thing for plain speaking that just has to come out sometimes.

[Orsino]

22. I can't wait for the Republican-owned machines to tell us how we voted.

:eyes:

[JeanGrey]

23. Things don't always go smoothly. I early voted in Georgia

and it took about an hour, because a woman in front of me they couldn't find. Turned out her birthdate was wrong in the computer.

Computers aren't perfect just like paper isn't. I would imagine on election day there WILL be glitches like this, it is only natural.

[AndyTiedye]

2. So If You Have to Get Out of Line to Go to the Bathroom You Can't Vote?

[comtec]

3. IF You are a democrat in a red state it does

fucking GOP what evil assholes!

[Enthusiast]

5. If we manage to win despite

these criminal acts, changing to a federally mandated uniform voting system should be priority. One with easy fool proof registration and voting with no feckin' machines that can be manipulated. There is plenty of evidence to support the need for radical change. Georgia and Ohio are especially in need of changes.

[comtec]

9. There was pleanty of evidence in '00 and '02, and '04, and '06

And yet where are the convictions? :(
or even investigations?
im positive we could have TOTALLY flipped with a realy majority the senate in '06 if not for mass gop dirty tricks.

[CottonBear]

11. GA was first in the nation 100% Diebold in 2002 thanks to former Democratic SoS, Cathy Cox.

The GOP stole that election by electronic Diebold vote manipulation.

Gov. Roy Barnes lost to Sonny Perdue and Senator Max Cleland lost to Saxby Chambliss and the state turned red. Karen Handel, the current SoS is a Republican. Of course, there are no investigations or prosecutions.
Why would the GOP investigate itself or make it easy to vote?

[Enthusiast]

12. We should have a huge advantage

If they don't cheat us out out of seats. A fair system will change The Democratic numbers big time. This is why The Republicans are so commited to cheating. With a majority we can change the laws, get rid of the obfuscation. They rely on this obfuscation to get elected. It is sickening really. Then, once The Democrats have a big numerical advantage the same bad actors will seek to destroy the Democratic Party from within. These people are evil, they are really evil.

[lonestarnot]

10. Bring your damn coffee cans!

[D-Lee]

7. Remember "chads" before thinking paper ballots perfect ...

Amazing what those who want to cook elections can come up with ...

We need to insist on fool proof, tinker proof, systems.

[JJ]

16. paper ballots, not punch cards.

paper ballots marked with a pen.
Proven technology, worked for many centuries.

[Igel]

21. One problem.

Paper ballots work with relatively simple elections, because people have to count them. (And, because recounting them is slow, there are few recounts to test the system--the error rate is fairly high with people counting.)

Places with hand-counted paper ballots usually have simple elections.

The sample ballot for where I live is 6 pages. Not 6 pages, single column. Six pages, 3 columns. Measures, city races, county races, state races, national races. >50 races, all told.

I once worked out that if you could get people to count one race per ballot per second, with no breaks and no errors, you'd need at least 278 man-hours to count them. This assumes nobody needs to verify anybody's count--so if somebody wants to put his 600 ballots all down for "Barr", nobody would check until an official recount was ordered. It means that the person who's supposed to tally the third race in the second column on page 4 had better make no mistakes, turning to page 3 or looking at the fourth race, and that person had better be absolutely trustworthy.

Good luck.

[onehandle]

8. They're not problems when it benefits Republicans.

Welcome to Georgia where Democrats are second class citizens.

Obama will win without us. Just like Bill Clinton did in 1996.

[RCinBrooklyn]

14. Connecting to the voter system? Transferring votes electronically is flawed and dangerous.

[Ms. Toad]

18. That would be a big no-no. They are not supposed to be

connecting to anything outside of the voting machine during voting.

Another article indicates it wasn't the voting machines that were having problems connecting - it was the state's machines used to check voter identification:

"Earlier this week, the state’s computer system for checking voter identification sputtered several times, slowing down the process and backing up lines of would-be voters. Election officials said those initial problems appear to have been fixed, and by midweek most of the long lines were caused by the volume of voters and a limited number of voting machines in the early-voting precincts. Tuesday night in Clayton County, for instance, the last voters, in line at 7 p.m., didn’t cast their ballots until nearly 10 p.m."

http://www.ajc.com/services/content/printedition/2008/10/30/voteed.html

[olddad56]

15. a lot of people in Georgia don't know this, but you can leave. You don't have to live there.

[AndyTiedye]

17. DRE = Diebold Republican Electing Machinez

[Gin]

19. my daughter in GA told me with the early voting....people could vote

at places other than the one where they live....the poll workers have to check the voters info in the computers and the computers were messing up.

she voted early and waited 1/12 hours in steady line..in Marietta.

[FUCK_BUSH]

20. I Hope Dem and obama legal team are on top of this problems.