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2QT2BSTR8 Donating Member (320 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 12:22 PM
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Clayton County Voters Stand In 12-Hour Lines
Source: WSBTV.com via CNN

CLAYTON COUNTY, Ga. -- While the polls officially closed at 7 p.m. Monday night in Clayton County, the line to vote at the Frank Bailey Senior Center in Riverdale didn't clear up until 1 a.m. Tuesday morning.

Advance voting began in Georgia Monday -- and the first day proved to be a long one for many voters.

Clayton County voter Patricia Lewis finally voted in Riverdale after standing in line to vote for six hours. "I vote in every election and I couldn't pass this one up. I think about my dad, about the struggles he went through and for me to vote again is just amazing," Lewis.

VIDEO: Clayton County Voters Stand In 12-Hour Lines - http://www.wsbtv.com/video/17819498/index.html

When asked about the long line, Lewis said, "It's OK. I stand in lines to shop. Six hours to vote...it's nothing."

Lewis had lots of people to keep her company. For much of the day, Clayton County voters stood in line for eight to nine hours to cast their ballots.

# COUNTY-BY-COUNTY: Advance, Early Voting Sites
# FULL LIST: Advance, Early Voting Sites For Every County In Georgia

# VOTER GUIDE: WSB-TV Voter Guide Can Help You Pick Candidates

Clayton County's election supervisor, Annie Bright, blamed the state. She said the computer mainframe the state uses to check voter registration became overwhelmed and didn't start working correctly until 4:30 p.m. Monday. The Secretary of State's Office said Clayton County should take the blame. The office said back-ups took place intermittently and didn't last long enough to cause eight hour delays.

Read more: http://www.wsbtv.com/news/17819448/detail.html



Please remind everyone you know that they need to early vote! I commented to my partner when we were standing in a quick moving 2 1/2 hour line on Saturday in Irving, Texas that it was great to see so many people come out to early vote. He stated to me, "hopefully we will see more than 20% of registered voters come out and vote this election". To which I replied back that "the sad thing is, in most of the country, our democratic voting system is only designed to handle 20% of registered voters". While I have no data or articles that back up my statement, I think it is already evident that the system is straining just to keep up with early voting, and I have a serious concern about people that wont wait if they see a line on Election Day.
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2QT2BSTR8 Donating Member (320 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 12:23 PM
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1. Does anyone know of a site for reporting or reported queue times for early voting?
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3waygeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 07:32 PM
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21. IIRC, Forsyth county is the only one offering
anything like that -- at least that's what I read in the AJC on Monday. Seems like small compensation for having to live there.
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deadmessengers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 12:23 PM
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2. Seven hours in Cobb County
I voted yesterday in Cobb, and it took seven hours.
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 12:26 PM
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3. Well, I sort of expected there were going to be long lines here in Georgia,
so I voted by absentee ballot. It was very easy. I just downloaded the application form, faxed it in, and received my ballot by mail within 2 days. Sure beats standing in line for hours.
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4lbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 12:38 PM
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4. What the hell is up with their computer network?!?!?!?
I've set up WANs that could process thousands of transactions per minute, from different computers in a 500 mile radius.

Are those guys still using 300baud modems, phone lines, and 1980s style 8-bit computers? Geez.
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 04:00 PM
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19. They do this on purpose. This is a state which has a GOP Secretary of State
Every state which is controlled by a GOP SoS has long lines.
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Phred42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 12:48 PM
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5. Those responsible for this should be in Jail
And should NEVEr be in control of this again.

I've never waited more that 1 min to vote since 1968 - in IL, OR or FL

I don't get it
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CurtEastPoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 12:58 PM
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10. Blame GOP SOS Karen Handel and her minions, plus our idiotic GOP GA Legislature n/t
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 12:54 PM
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6. Clayton County(GA) Voters Stand In 12-Hour Lines(Till 1AM)
Source: WSBTV

While the polls officially closed at 7 p.m. Monday night in Clayton County, the line to vote at the Frank Bailey Senior Center in Riverdale didn't clear up until 1 a.m. Tuesday morning.

Advance voting began in Georgia Monday -- and the first day proved to be a long one for many voters.

Clayton County voter Patricia Lewis finally voted in Riverdale after standing in line to vote for six hours. "I vote in every election and I couldn't pass this one up. I think about my dad, about the struggles he went through and for me to vote again is just amazing," Lewis.

When asked about the long line, Lewis said, "It's OK. I stand in lines to shop. Six hours to vote...it's nothing."

Lewis had lots of people to keep her company. For much of the day, Clayton County voters stood in line for eight to nine hours to cast their ballots.

Read more: http://www.wsbtv.com/news/17819448/detail.html



WOW. Hope there are lots of Obama votes!
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yourout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 12:54 PM
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7. If they waited 8 hours you can bet its an Obama vote.
You can bet Puke filled precincts have more than enough machines and/or ballots.

Dems....not so much.
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CurtEastPoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 12:54 PM
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8. I just saw this on WSB's site. This is ABSOLUTELY CRAZY! Votin' needs fixin'!
Why do we not have uniform standards for voting nationwide? I KNOW I KNOW...state functions, etc. But omigod this is insane. Valid people being tossed off rolls, people waiting 12 hours, machine glitches (yeah, right) and so on.

THIS SYSTEM NEEDS TO BE FIXED and SOON!

It is amazing that the US, with all the technical bravado, is like a third-world country when it comes to our elections. What's up with that?

Suggestions?


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4lbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 12:54 PM
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9. Why is it that some parts of the country are still using computer systems that appear to have been
made in the 1970s or early 1980s?

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Loki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 01:01 PM
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11. Does it surprise any of us
that Georgia's Secretary of State is Karen Handel...............and................................she's a REPUBLICAN. But, good news coming out of Georgia today.

Thousands of flagged voters can vote, court rules
Posted: 08:23 PM ET
(CNN) — Georgia must allow thousands of people whose citizenship was questioned by the state's new voter verification system to vote in the upcoming election, a panel of federal judges ruled Monday.

The court ruling will affect about 4,500 people in Georgia who had been "flagged" by the new voter verification system and faced being denied a chance to vote Nov. 4 because their citizenship was questioned.

It could also affect more than 50,000 other registered Georgia voters also flagged by the new system because of mismatches in their personal identification information, such as discrepancies in addresses.

The three-judge panel also ordered Georgia Secretary of State Karen Handel to inform all the flagged voters that they can vote.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/10/27/thousands-of-flagged-voters-can-vote-court-rules/#more-26801


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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 01:02 PM
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12. Another SoS that needs to be jailed
this is a federal offense.
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Puppyjive Donating Member (117 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 01:10 PM
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13. Election reform is badly needed
Every state in the nation should allow vote by mail. I am an Oregon resident and we have the convenience of voting at home. We can vote with our voter's pamphlet right next to us, and we have about 2 or 3 weeks to fill out the ballot. We can mail or drop off our ballots. I can't imagine people standing in line for 12 hours to vote. Here in Oregon, we don't have to miss any time off from work to vote. I'm beginning to think that some states do not want to change their election methods because it is currently too easy to manipulate the results.
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Tafiti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 01:50 PM
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16. Hell yes.
Fellow Oregonian here, and our voting system flat-out rocks. Paper, mail-in ballots that can be filled out at your convenience, in your own home, and mailed in or dropped off at any time before or on Election Day.

There needs to be federal legislation that mandates the same voting standards nationwide, based on Oregon's system. Making people stand in line for hours is madness, and proportionately disadvantages the poor. Methinks far more people would vote if there wasn't a 12-14 hour designated day and time to vote, but instead gave people a 3-week window to do it.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 01:14 PM
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14. Here's a shocker (sarcasm): Clayton is a majority African American county
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clayton_County,_Georgia#Demographics

As of the census<2> of 2000, there were 236,517 people, 82,243 households, and 59,214 families residing in the county. The population density was 1,658 people per square mile (640/km²). There were 86,461 housing units at an average density of 606 per square mile (234/km²). The racial makeup of the county was 37.94% White, 51.55% Black or African American, 0.32% Native American, 4.49% Asian, 0.07% Pacific Islander, 3.55% from other races, and 2.08% from two or more races. 7.50% of the population were Hispanic or Latino of any race.

Estimated 2006 population is 271,240, with a racial make-up of 20.4% white non-hispanic, 62.9% African American, 5% Asian, 11.3% Hispanic or Latino, 0.4% American Indian or Alaska Naive, and 0.1% Pacific Islander. 1.5% were reported as multi-racial.


Who would ever have thought that a repuke SoS would somehow forget to set up enough polling places in a county with those demographics?! :eyes: :sarcasm:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 04:01 PM
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20. And they're at it with impunity because Bush gutted the Voters Rights office
at DoJ.

I CAN'T WAIT UNTIL THESE CRIMINALS ARE OUT ON THEIR @SSES!
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 01:19 PM
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15. Props to those voters who remained, and INSISTED on their right to VOTE!!
That is amazing..
:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:

What is horrifying, is that it was necessary for an American citizen to have to stand on line for 12 hours to vote!!!!
There is only one way to describe this situation: VOTER SUPPRESSION!!!



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trashcanistanista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 02:57 PM
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17. Yes!!!
These voters are true patriots. They should be commended.:kick:
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 03:58 PM
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18. how many people are in some of these precincts?
when i was election-judging in chicago, our entire precinct had less than 400 voters- even if everyone got there at the same time, it wouldn't take twelve hours for all of them to vote.
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2QT2BSTR8 Donating Member (320 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 11:27 AM
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22. According to the county board of elections it looks like
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