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MAGICBULLET Donating Member (606 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 05:29 PM
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Robber cut face over McCain sticker on car
Source: AP

PITTSBURGH (AP) A woman robbed at knifepoint at a Pittsburgh ATM told police her attacker knocked her down and carved a "B" in her face after noticing a John McCain sticker on her car.

Police say the victim refused medical attention for the wound. An officer saw the injury, but a police report does not describe its size or severity.

Authorities say the woman is from Texas, but aren't identifying her.

Pittsburgh police spokeswoman Diane Richards says the woman was withdrawing money at 9 p.m. Wednesday when a man approached her from behind, put a knife to her neck and demanded money. She says she gave him $60.

The woman told police the robber then noticed the bumper sticker, punched her in the back of the head, knocked her down and carved a "B" on her face.


Read more: http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iidrMKZwVNDDlEtkssY6...



I wonder whooooo in the world came up with this one?? There are rumors she works for the McCrazy campaign.
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 05:31 PM
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1. It isn't a "B", it's a mirror-image of a "B" nt


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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 06:12 PM
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21. It also wasn't done with a knife
It looks self inflicted using a mirror and a dull pin, a paper clip, a fingernail, or some other object that irritates but does not break the skin.

This woman is a sicko. She's a white Tawana Brawley.
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JeanGrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 10:21 PM
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62. I agree! That backwards "B" is a dead giveaway.
Nice try assholes.
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bulloney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 07:21 PM
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43. To get a backwards "B" that clear on her face, she'd had to have set still.
If she was attacked, she would have been shaking her head and moving all over the place to struggle away from her attacker.

Just sayin'.
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madville Donating Member (743 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 09:38 PM
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59. The image could have been flipped
Just sayin', the story still sounds thin as hell

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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 05:31 PM
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2. The fact that she won't seek medical attention is very telling
To me, it looks like she did it herself
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 05:34 PM
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5. what are the odds that a McCain worker from Texas would get assaulted that way in PA?
I mean... what are the odds???
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scytherius Donating Member (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 06:27 PM
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26. Agreed. That is what threw me. I mean, if it was a robbery, hope they catch the SOB, but
Edited on Thu Oct-23-08 06:27 PM by scytherius
it sure is fishy.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 08:38 PM
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48. backwards cause she did it without a mirror... >>photo link>>
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Scairp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 03:26 AM
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66. Yes
When I read that she said she got the crap beaten out of her and a letter carved into her face, refusing a trip to the ER is deeply suspicious. I wonder if she realizes that ATM machines all have cameras and record things that happen in front of and around them. I think that's why the police are hedging when it comes to confirming her story. Sounds like they saw the tape and it didn't happen the way she claims.
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 05:33 PM
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3. from the stuff over in GD-P, she is in PA to work for McCain, there's a pic.
Frankly, looks like the guy who supposedly did this was... 1) using a fingernail, not a knife (there's no cut only scratch. 2) Writes backwards 3) Isn't clear that you would do an "O", not a "B" 3) Has remarkable penmanship considering he had already robbed her, and managed to do a perfect, backwards B on her face.,, with no other nicks or scratches.

Parlock comes to mind.
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 05:34 PM
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4. Who did it to her? Morton Downey Jr.?
What a pile of B.S.!
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 05:35 PM
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6. McCain supporter robbed, assaulted (sic)
Source: Pittsburgh Tribune Review

A knife-wielding man robbed a McCain-Palin campaign volunteer and etched a B into her face after he saw a McCain bumper sticker on the womans car, Pittsburgh police said.

Ashley Todd, 20, of College Station, Texas, was using an ATM at Liberty Avenue and Pearl Street in Bloomfield just before 9 p.m. Wednesday when a man approached her, put a knife to her throat and demanded $60, police said.

Todd handed the man $60 she had in her pocket and stepped away from him, investigators said. The man then noticed the bumper sticker on the woman's car, which was parked in front of the ATM. The man became very angry, made comments to Todd about John McCain and punched her in the back of the head, knocking her to the ground, police said.


"He continued to kick and punch her repeatedly and said he would teach her a lesson for supporting John McCain," said police Chief Nate Harper.

The man then carved the "B" into Todd's right cheek. Todd, who isn't familiar with the area, drove to a friend's house nearby and told her friend she wasn't sure of the exact location where the robbery took place but remembered a green sign above the ATM. The friend called police and the officer met them on Cypress Street in Bloomfield, police said.

Todd's friend offered to drive her back in the direction she came from to look at ATMs until she found the right one, police said. A police officer followed until Todd pointed out a Citizens Bank ATM at Liberty and Pearl, police said.

She declined medical treatment at the scene and said she would go to a hospital today.

Todd declined to comment.

"She is a volunteer for the McCain-Palin campaign," said campaign spokesman Peter Feldman. "Sen. McCain has reached out to her via telephone and has spoken to her and her family, as has McCains running mate, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, Feldman said. Out of respect for her privacy we're not going to comment further."

Democrat Barack Obama's campaign released a statement saying: Our thoughts and prayers are with the young woman for her to make a speedy recovery, and we hope that the person who perpetrated this crime is swiftly apprehended and brought to justice."

Police described the suspect as black, about 6-foot-4, and said he was wearing dark-colored jeans and a black undershirt.

The ATM has a security camera and investigators are trying to watch the video, police said.



Read more: http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/bre...



All of the activity was captured on the ATM camera - nope

The mugger got the money and ran away - nope

The mugger noticed her McCain shirt, button and hat - nope he happened to see a bumper sticker.

The woman was punched in the head, kicked and punched repeatedly and sought medical treatment - nope declined treatment.

The mugger then carved a bleeding ragged "B" on her face - nope a lightly traced perfectly formed backward "B" was perfectly written while the 'victim' struggled.

The victim received a bloody swollen black eye with damage to her face - nope see the pictures in GDP

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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 06:15 PM
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22. Here is the picture of her. No. Way. is that a bruised eye.
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sarah FAILIN Donating Member (156 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 06:27 PM
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25. That is smeared mascara, nothing more
When is someone going to get on this and show it for the lie it is? Makes me mad...
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zelta gaisma Donating Member (220 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 07:09 PM
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41. what a moron....
*I* could do better drunk. it's NOT hard to cut a letter the right way around , even on your face come one sheesh, one little exacto knife and and 1/2 a brain (to remember the mirror makes the letter backwards). As for a black eye.... go into a bar before hand and get into a fight :P or run a door handle into your face...for real, I wonder if that would work...
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 08:53 PM
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54. I just saw a movie where a woman hit herself again and again
Edited on Thu Oct-23-08 08:53 PM by Raine
with freezer bag of ice cubes to get a black eye than claimed her married lover did it to her.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 08:42 PM
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51. boyfriend prob beat her up..
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Vattel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 06:43 PM
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32. funny,
in a mirror that "B" woould not look backwards. Maybe the robber used a mirror when he carved it onto her face. But why would he do that? Maybe he didn't want to look his poor victim in the eye. Yeah, that's the ticket.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 09:01 PM
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55. Source: Pittsburgh Tribune Review a/k/a Clinton-hater Richard Mellon Scaife's personal newsletter.
You remember Mellon Scaife from the "Arkansas Project", right? Well, he cobbled together a few suburban papers around the 'Burgh and created the "Pittsburgh Tribune-Review". It has about as much credibility as that martial arts fighter Kimbo Slice. :eyes:
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 05:38 PM
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7. Supposedly he said "I'll teach you to support McCain!" Yeah.. very plausible. n/t
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 05:38 PM
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8. I love the smell of desperation.
Do they actually believe anybody's going to believe this shit?

LOL!
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bloomington-lib Donating Member (513 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 05:46 PM
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14. I bet there are people
who do believe this shit. Good thing dumb Republicans with their fearful mindset are the only ones that'll fall for it.
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KewlKat Donating Member (867 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 05:40 PM
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9. One thing that comes to mind on the backwards "B" thing
some gang use that symbol..........just a thought.
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GinaMaria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 06:15 PM
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23. Bob Barr?
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 08:39 PM
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49. do it yourself.. it comes out backwards... >>LINK>>
Edited on Thu Oct-23-08 08:40 PM by sam sarrha
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 10:35 PM
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64. note it was a "dark-skinned man" who "did" it - another repuke plays the race card
Edited on Thu Oct-23-08 10:35 PM by wordpix
The big bad black man did it! :puke:
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MAGICBULLET Donating Member (606 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 05:41 PM
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10. Could it have been a
(B)oston Red Sox fan ????

:shrug:
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Politicalboi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 05:42 PM
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11. I read on a post
At Huffington post that the B was backward which would mean self inflicted.
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jeepnstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 05:42 PM
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12. It's a good shiner.
If McCain is smart they'll get her out of there and send her to some Caribbean Island with no internet or phone access. As it is, she'll probably be on Fox tonight telling her tale and making the talk show circuit this weekend. That is the last thing McCain needs right now is some poor little Young College Republican stirring up sentiment about being attacked by some anonymous black man. This will not end well even if it's true.
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lolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 05:48 PM
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15. Here we go again
Remember that College Republican type who was assaulted by left winger (hit with a bottle of Orangina, of all things) by a bunch of mean ol' lefties? David Horowitch made him a cause celebre for a few days, featured him on his blog to show what evil thugs lefties were--then the police got suspicious, asked a few questions. It turned out that it was all made up.
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jeepnstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 05:58 PM
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20. I remember it well...
That's why I'm saying that McCain needs to make this one just go away. He's letting every nut and bolt on his side of the fence take over his message far too often.

I know guys who like to use knives and are low enough to mug you. Her wound looks more like an eraser burn from junior high school.

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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 08:43 PM
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53. A fresh periorbital hematoma is usually reddish purple, turning blackish purple and then yellow as
the hemaglobin and other blood materials deteriorate and are reabsorbed

I'm not taking a stand on whether she was robbed or not, but it would be unusual for a bruise to blacken that quickly
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 09:26 PM
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57. This is a good shiner?


No, that's halloween make-up.

This is a good shiner:




She forgot to add the swelling, but I guess that's a little difficult to pull off.
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jeepnstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 08:28 AM
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71. This is a good comparison...
Edited on Fri Oct-24-08 08:30 AM by jeepnstein
Photo 1 is our subject. Photo 3 shows a very fresh injury. The injury blackens at a fairly consistent rate but I cannot recall the time line, I'd have to check some reference materials. The guy in Photo 2 is somewhere in between because the shading will continue to spread on him. (edit. Struggle4Progress has a post above that is as good a definition of the injury as I've read in a while. Photo 2 is an old injury and Photo 3 is a fresh one.)

I believe it's a real black eye. It wasn't a serious beating because she doesn't have any burst blood vessels in her eye.

The letter "B"? I have questions about that and if I were taking the report I'd want a few answers. This incident has the potential to be very divisive and it deserves close scrutiny. The time line is everything in this case.
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scytherius Donating Member (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 05:46 PM
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13. A W a B or some other letter. Hope they find the scum. But what is sad . . .
is we now live in a society where my first thought was, "I wonder if this is a set up"?
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KayLaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 05:51 PM
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17. I don't think there is a "scum" to find.
Come on. Have you seen her picture?
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 08:41 PM
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50. ... here is the photo..>>LINK>>
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wanpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 05:50 PM
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16. this story is contrived. I bet money on it. no medical attention...hmmmm
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demodonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 05:55 PM
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18. A Brick was hurled through a McCain Headquarters window in Port Vue PA after the last debate...

I have family roots there and know the area well (near Pittsburgh.) And I highly doubt that this was done by any Obama supporter.

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LoKnLoD Donating Member (923 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 05:56 PM
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19. This smells
This smells like the Rove bullshit bugging of his own candidates office and then blaming the democrats for it back in Texas or where ever Turdblossom got started.
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DeadManInc Donating Member (844 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 06:24 PM
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24. My bullshit meter is going off the chart.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 06:28 PM
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27. Me Thinks She Scratched the "B" onto her own Face
That's why it's backwards and so damn legible...
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CGrantt57 Donating Member (245 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 06:28 PM
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28. The Freepers are all over it.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2113573/posts

It hit Drudge and then rocketed through Freeperville.
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brucefan Donating Member (421 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 06:43 PM
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33. Ha !
the threads been pulled.
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 10:37 PM
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65. LMAO, bwahahaha
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 06:39 PM
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29. OK all you robbers! Now listen up:
Most people who support McCain don't have any money, nor do they want any. They want to give their money to people who have plenty of money already and those people aren't hanging around ATM's.

And forget the Banks too.

Go steal a 150 foot yacht or something.
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Kingofalldems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 06:40 PM
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30. No blood?
That's strange, a little nick with a razor will cause a lot of bleeding.
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Indenturedebtor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 06:42 PM
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31. I think it was a dull butter knife with a sweater over the blade
Seriously though this is fucking rediculous. I've cut myself FAR worse than that with a piece of paper.
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 04:56 AM
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68. This chick is full'o bull paddies.
I carve pumpkins and work with Xactos and knives all of the time. Also, I cook quite a good deal. I cut myself a lot; it comes with the trade. That's no knife cut. The skin isn't even opened. Knifepoints do a hell of a lot more damage than that, even just with nicking. It's a scratch with a paperclip or a fingernail.

And as pointed out above, that's no black eye either.

This person isn't even brave enough to wound herself for her own photo-op.

Is there no low that they'll stoop to?
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blossomstar Donating Member (772 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 06:50 PM
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34. This is a crock of shit.
If someone did do this to her; it would be a freaking "O", what is the "B" about? Also, the B would NOT be backwards! This sick girl did this to herself. Oh my God, these people are totally rabid.
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Vattel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 06:51 PM
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35. moral of the story
she was too dumb to realize two things:

1. A "B" that appears normal in a mirror will actually be backwards.

2. She should support Obama.
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byronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 06:52 PM
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36. Uh, I misread the story. I withdraw my comment.
Edited on Thu Oct-23-08 06:59 PM by byronius
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Bush h8ter Donating Member (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 06:53 PM
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37. crazy world
thats just not right.
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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 06:54 PM
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38. A backward B. Stranger than fricking fiction it is. Mighty peculiar.
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appleannie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 06:57 PM
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39. PGH PD are reinterviewing her. Saw it on the news.
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TerribleLarryDingle Donating Member (231 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 07:01 PM
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40. B for Bullshit.
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Snellius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 07:15 PM
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42. The photo may be flopped
The story is suspicious but the photograph could also be flopped so the B would appear backwards as if in a mirror. It would be interesting to know if the "attacker"(or the "victim") is right or left handed.
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 07:22 PM
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44. I have a feeling
and I'm right 90% of the time, she will soon admit at least partial hoax.
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 07:27 PM
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45. What needs to be verified:
Receipt from ATM, time/dated.
Let's see what security cam shows, and if her story starts changing to fit evidence.
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 07:27 PM
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46. TMZ reporting that Pittsburgh Police are having doubts about her story.
They're investigating it right now. She'd better hope she is telling the truth, cuz this will backfire on McPalin big time.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 08:13 PM
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47. Hopefully the $60 went to the Obama campaign.
Bwahahahahahahaha.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 08:42 PM
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52. Have NEVER heard of a robber sticking around to make a political statement in my LIFE.
Edited on Thu Oct-23-08 08:43 PM by Judi Lynn
The object would be to get the hell out of there and not go to jail.

I hate lies concocted by truly STUPID people.

Either it's one or the other. Either he saw the McCain sign and was driven to such heights of hatred he had no choice but to write "B" backwards on her face, to make it look as if she did it herself in the mirror, or he took the money and ran.

You've heard the expression "take the money and run." You've NEVER heard the expression, "Take the money, then take a knife and write the first initial of a Presidential candidate, very neatly, and backwards on someone's face, and THEN run."
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clspector Donating Member (295 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 09:16 PM
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56. I call
shenanagins...
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 09:28 PM
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58. I already did that earlier today.
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bigworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 09:39 PM
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60. Wonkette.com is all over this tonight.
with twitter pages, myspace pages, you name it.
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FM Arouet666 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 09:43 PM
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61. I see a lot of knife wounds in the ER.
This story just does not sound right. The guy has a knife at her throat and makes this wound? Must be the dullest knife in the history of man kind. The level of violence just makes no since, he beats her up yet carefully makes a very shallow "B" wound to her face. Also, if he standing over her face to face why is the "B" a mirror image? Why demand only 60$? A thief will take everything you have. Makes no since.

Also, she is refusing medical attention. If I just had the shit kicked out of me I would go get checked out. Hope the ATM had a camera because without it I cannot believe this story is true.
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 10:32 PM
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63. LMAO at the Zorro imagery. Sorry, can't help but lol
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Tulum_Moon Donating Member (556 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 04:20 AM
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67. The B is backwards
She did it in a mirror!
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MetaTrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 05:20 AM
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69. If only all Republicans would disfigure themselves like that
That would make it easier to collect them for the labor camps later on.
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 07:44 AM
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70. Twitter blog pretty suspicious:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-10801...

(snip)

She also left a somewhat unlikely trail of messages online leading up to the attack.

She started by writing: "This traffic in pittsburgh needs to go away!!!!" before adding:

"Stubbornly searching for a bank of america to avoid ATM fees."

She then wrote: "Pretty sure I'm on the wrong side of Pittsburgh" - even though she was in the financial area, not a rough part of town at all.

Later she wrote: "Oh the blog I will be making soon... Its been a rough night." And within hours she was already pressing campaign issues, writing:

"Thanks to everyone for your thoughts and prayers- I'm phonebanking so let's all work together and get John McCain elected."

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