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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-08 11:08 AM
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Bolivia's ruling party, opposition agree to referendum on constitution
Source: Xinhua

LIMA, Oct. 20 (Xinhua) -- Bolivia's ruling party and opposition reached an agreement Monday to call a referendum on a new constitution after several days of dialogue, according to news reports reaching here from La Paz, administrative capital of Bolivia.

The agreement sets the date of the referendum on Jan. 25, 2009,and sometime in December 2009 for the legislative and presidential elections, said Senator Felix Rojas from the ruling party Movement Towards Socialism (MAS). Rojas announced the agreement Monday with Senator Luis Vasquez from the opposition Social Democratic Power (Podemos).

The legislators said they had reached an important agreement to answer the Bolivian people, who had been assembling at the Murillo Square in La Paz since Monday morning.

It was reported that congressmen from the opposition party dropped their protest after President Evo Morales agreed to limit himself to running for one more term in office.



Read more: http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2008-10/21/content_10228346.htm
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-08 03:08 PM
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1. How important is this? This may well be the turning point for South America,
as to Bushwhack and Corpo/Fascist efforts to "divide and conquer" among the many leftist governments that have been voted into power, and to destabilize these countries, and topple their democracies.

This compromise is the work of UNASUR, the new South American "Common Market" (sans the U.S.), which was formalized only this May, and met its first crisis--the Bushwhack effort to destabilize Bolivia--head on, with 100% backing of the Morales government, and sending a commission to Bolivia, to broker talks between the sides, and also initiated an investigation into the fascist side's slaughter of some 30 unarmed peasants in their rioting of a few weeks ago.

UNASUR acted with swiftness and strength. And key to their unanimity and strength is that it is an all-South American body, with no U.S. membership. It is very important that this matter did not go to the OAS, where the Bushwhacks could have blocked action.

Bolivia was a test case, in my opinion, for a strategy that Rafael Correa, president of Ecuador, has openly talking about: A Bush Junta plan to split off the oil rich provinces in three countries--Bolivia, Venezuela and Ecuador--and form fascist mini-states in control of the oil (to regain global corporate predator control of the oil). Bolivia has a particular weakness, in having a white separatist segment of the population concentrated in one area, where its biggest gas and oil reserves are. The white separatists want control of those resources, and want to deny benefit of those resources to Bolivia's poor majority. These separatists were easily agitated by the Bushites, and, when all this started, the plan may have been to shuttle U.S. forces into these provinces, in support of a fascist civil war, through Paragauy. But Paraguay, meanwhile, elected its first leftist government, after more than 60 years of corrupt rightwing rule, and its new president, Fernando Lugo, opposes the U.S. military presence in Paraguay, and certainly wouldn't facilitate efforts to destabilize Bolivia.

The tenor of things changed. Perhaps faced with the failure of the Bushite strategy, the white separatists then rioted (a few weeks ago), murdered dozens of poor people, and disgraced their cause throughout South America. And Evo Morales threw the U.S. ambassador out of Bolivia, for funding and colluding with them.

I'm not sure the Bushwhacks were ever quite serious about Bolivia--except for causing sheer mayhem and trouble for a leftist country, using this racist group. They may have intended it as a distraction, while they worked on a similar plot, for their main target, the Venezuelan oil reserves on the Caribbean in the Venezuelan northern state of Zulia, which is adjacent to Colombia (Bush Cartel client state), and where the Bushites have now stationed the newly reconstituted U.S. 4th Fleet. There is strong evidence of a similar fascist group in Zulia, whose governor was the rightwing opposition candidate against Chavez in 06 (and had to publicly distance himself from the then-current fascist plot to assassinate Chavez, when the plot was exposed.) Chavez's invitation to the Russians to conduct joint naval manuevers in the Caribbean is likely a warning off, to the Bushites, re Zulia.

Far from being a "rogue" state, Chavez and his government are in close accord with Brazil, Argentina, Uruguay, Paraguay, Ecuador and Bolivia. With Chile, these governments, representing most of South America, form the majority of UNASUR, and are determined upon economic/political integration, regional sovereignty and social justice. Brazil proposed a common defense, but it is not yet in place. Chavez is responsible for securing the northern border of their "Common Market" (Zulia), and would never have invited the Russians to maneuvers without consulting these other leaders. They are likely in accord about it. Brazil's president recently said that the U.S. 4th Fleet threatens Brazil's coastal oil reserves as well.

Bolivia is land-locked. Its chief gas customers are Brazil and Argentina, both with leftist governments, who have stated that they will not trade with, or recognize, any separatist states of Bolivia. So, who are the fascist secessionists going to sell their gas to? It was a crazy scheme all along, pushed by the Bushites, that ended in rioting and murder, and now a compromise. Zulia is another story, however. With Zulia's oil, the U.S. and its Corpos could insure a supply to the U.S. and could bully Caribbean/Central American countries, and try to turn back the leftist tide, by providing or withholding oil. (Venezuela is now providing low cost oil to a number of small, poor countries, including Nicaragua, Dominica, Honduras and Cuba).

In this context, the agreement between the Morales government and the white separatists is momentous in several respects. It is a stunning victory for this new organization, UNASUR. No one else has succeeded in getting the separatists to talk--not the OAS, not the Catholic bishops, not Brazil and Argentina with their combined economic weight, nor Morales himself. Many have tried. UNASUR succeeded--a good omen for this new "Common Market." It is momentous for Bolivia, which has been wracked by this fascist strife for several years. And it is momentous as a defeat for the Bushites, who poured millions of our taxpayer dollars into instigating this civil war.

The fascist violence may not be over, but the first talks have begun, and it appears that UNASUR has gotten the cooler heads among the white separatists to prevail. There are plenty of gas revenues for everybody. Morales has DOUBLED Bolivia's gas revenues--from $1 million/year to $2 million/year--by nationalizing the gas and re-negotiating the contracts. And with Brazil and Venezuela's help, Bolivia stands to become a major trade route from the Atlantic to the Pacific, with a new road that is going to be constructed, spanning the continent, through Bolivia, and with Chile negotiating Bolivian access to the sea, at long last.

So, everything is in place for the South Americans to resist and defeat any effort by the Bushwhacks or their Corpo puppetmasters, or the U.S. under Obama (whether overtly or covertly), to try to grab Zulia's oil.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-08 03:58 PM
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2. It's good you pointed out Morales enriched these separatist clowns already. They intended to take
that profit, and then re-seize power.

It is doubtful this could have happened, EVER, without an organization showing some real intention, and authority stepping in to have "speaks" with them, besides the ubiquitous scheming, and meddling of the Bush administration.

Just read last night Venezuela intends to build a military base in the Caribbean, (or Atlantic?) on Margarita Island.



Also, read that Paraguay's President Fernando Lugo is expected to be in Washington within the next week for a formal visit to George W. Bush. I'm sure he's wise enough not to pay too much attention to him!
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-08 04:11 PM
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3. Constitution vote a victory for Morales
Constitution vote a victory for Morales
By Dan Keane
ASSOCIATED PRESS

10:10 a.m. October 21, 2008

LA PAZ, Bolivia – Bolivia's Congress ratified President Evo Morales' draft constitution on Tuesday and sent it to a nationwide vote on Jan. 25, granting the leftist leader a hard-fought victory in his push to remake South America's poorest country.
Morales wiped away tears as he waded into a crowd of tens of thousands of supporters packed into the narrow streets of the capital to celebrate passage of the proposal that is designed to empower Bolivia's long-oppressed indigenous majority.

The popular Morales agreed on Monday to seek only one more five-year term in exchange for opposition lawmakers' support of the framework, expected to easily pass a referendum.
The proposed constitution has been embraced by the president's poorer, largely Indian supporters but has met fierce resistance from the middle and upper classes in the lowland east who say it expands Morales' powers and ignored their demands for greater provincial autonomy.

~snip~
The new constitution's lengthy bill of rights includes a long section dedicated to indigenous groups, and would grant them autonomy over their traditional lands and a “priority” share of the country's natural resources wealth.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/world/20081021-1010-lt-bolivia-constitution.html
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-08 06:54 PM
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4. If ever there was a man who could be "president for life" and not have it go to his head,
it is Evo Morales. What an incredible man he is! And it's such an irony that Evo, of all people, had to give up the term limit issue, to get this larger good accomplished--the new Constitution.

"The time of the people has come." --Evo Morales

That's Evo. A man who really, really, REALLY believes in democracy.

I don't put any stock in the rightwing crapola about term limits. As long as a president can be voted out of office or impeached--rights we have lost here--what does it matter? Our own Founders opposed term limits as undemocratic. And they are. They were only instigated in the U.S. in the 1950s, by the Republicans, to prevent a "New Deal" from ever happening again--that is, a popular leftist leader staying in office long enough to confront entrenched "organized money" (as FDR called it), and set up fairer rules for the workers and the poor. Venezuela has yet another precaution--they can recall their president. Don't we wish!

Term limits are aimed at only one thing: LIMITING the political power of the poor and the middle class. The rich have money. The poor need time.

That said--anyone can, of course, get a big head and abuse power. All I'm saying is, my perception of Evo Morales is that he is a deep Gandhian--a kind of person for whom abuse of power would be a like a personal sin. Chavez obviously loves politics and relishes making a big show. Correa is subtler, but also loves politics, and is not above putting on a show. Morales is different. And I think he perceives his mission in life as more transformational than political. He is like Martin Luther King, who wanted to redeem the white southern bigots--not defeat them, but redeem them, change them. That is what he taught about non-violent civil disobedience. Your purpose is not to oppose or overwhelm those who are against you--those who hate you, those who would beat and kill you. Your purpose is not to succeed, not to win, not to defeat them at polls or in the streets. Your purpose is to move something deep in THEM--reach their humanity, change their hearts.

I think that's who Morales is, and what he wants. He doesn't want to defeat the white separatists. He wants them to stop being assholes, on their own. And I don't think he wants to be president. It is just something that had to be done, and circumstances chose him. He is a natural born leader, of course--and had years of organizing experience as a labor leader. But he doesn't seem to have that raw ego that mixes up person and power. And it is such an irony that a person like him can't just stay president until he's an old doddering man and crawls off into the Andes to die, with his pouch of coca leaves tucked at his side.

I'm reminded of the old political saw, "Find the one person in the country who doesn't want to be president, and make him president!" He will never look at it personally. He will never mix up person and power.

I'm reminded, too, of the practice of the earliest Christians (the real Christians), who met in a circle to celebrate the Mass, and drew lots as to who would be the priest that night. It could be a woman. It could be a child. The power is not wrapped up in the identity of the person. The power is of the spirit and exists in and through all those present.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 05:35 AM
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8. He didn't start out as a politician, either, did he?We've seen photos of him in his military uniform
and as a soccer player, and a prisoner. He has been a musician, and a coca grower, and he became involved in large-scale situations during the Cochabamba water riots.

Here's a small item I saw by chance, written in 2005 by an American who knew him:
Evo Morales is Elected President of Bolivia

The person I am today begins with my time and formation in Bolivia. I lived in Cochabamba for all of 1994 all of 1995 and part of 1996 and the work I did and the place fills me to this day. I worked as a volunteer in a men's prison and the work profoundly changed me as to scour away much of my ignorance and narrowmindedness and opened my eyes to the reality of our Americas.

I first met Evo Morales by accident a the Post Office in Cochabamba. He saw my wooden Tau cross and called me Hermano, as in Brother or Friar it was the greatest compliment I have yet recieved.

I got to know Evo Morales during my work in the jail most of the members of my fraternity in the jail were minor coca leaf offenses. Most of the men I worked with had lost everything for trying to feed their families.

Evo Morales was the leader of the Cocaleros. The justice of their cause, opposing eradication of Coca leaf and trying to help poor people to get out a cycle of poverty that resulted in death for so many destroyed my faith in many things I once held dear.

Evo Morales said simply "no" to the desire of the Americans to eradicate coca a plant that has grown in the Andes for 20,000 years and he demanded that America deal with their demand not destroy the Andes and its people because Americans wanted to buy Cocaine. He is not loved by the US but he is right and we are wrong.

Evo Morales is an Aymara a member of one of the three largest indig. groups in the Americas over 2 million people speak Aymara in the Andes, 6 million Quechua and over 5 million Guarani these are the last places in the Americas where there are
the traditions and languages that predate the Spanish and Portuguese in these numbers. The people of the Andes are not Hispanic and they are not Latinos they are the Children of the Inkas and Tiuanaco and they bear witness to survival.

I say that as we approach the longest day of the year in South America we ask the Pachamama and Virococha to bless Evo Morales and help him to be just and to give voice to those who are ignored by so many. I also hope that God in his wisdom will protect him and let the people I once worked with in Bolivia have hope in their future.

Paz y Bien
posted by Raymond Bianchi | 19.12.05
http://collagepoetchicago.blogspot.com/2005/12/evo-morales-in-elected-president-of.html



"He who owes nothing, fears nothing"
-- Evo Morales, on Hunger Strike




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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 05:48 AM
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9. Memorable phrase that
"He who owes nothing, fears nothing"
-- Evo Morales, on Hunger Strike
:hi:
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 05:55 AM
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10. Never heard it before until a few minutes ago. Worth considering, isn't it?
We're getting much more interesting world leaders than we used to see, wouldn't you say? :hi:

It's not as if we haven't needed an UPGRADE in quality, by god. We've been scraping the bottom of the barrel for ages.
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-08 07:09 PM
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5. Did he have to compromise on parts of the constitution or
is it the original bill he presented?
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 05:04 AM
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7. Have been unable to do any recent decent research. I'll keep this in mind, and see if I can find out
Edited on Fri Oct-24-08 05:42 AM by Judi Lynn
Haven't heard of any significant departure from the original, yet.

I need to find out more, myself. It's a really BIG deal.

On edit, you may find this site worthwhile. I posted it earlier in the Latin America forum. Some GREAT photos, and early photos of Evo Morales. Under the year "1976," it shows Evo Morales, standing between his brother, on the right, his mother, on the left, and his father, who is 2nd from the left. Very interesting.

There's are two looks at a painting which is displayed in El Alto, Bolivia, showing indigenous people moving down the mountain road from the heights in great numbers. It's really wonderful:

http://www.thewe.cc/weplanet/news/americas/bolivia/indigenous_revolt_evo_morales_president.html

These people deserve to live freely in their OWN COUNTRY, by god, with no interference from greedy scum from outside the country.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 04:53 AM
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6. Massive Political Upheaval in Bolivia Signals the Decline of U.S. Influence in Latin America
Massive Political Upheaval in Bolivia Signals the Decline of U.S. Influence in Latin America
By Benjamin Dangl, AlterNet.
Posted October 24, 2008

After months of street battles and political meetings, a new draft of the Bolivian constitution was ratified by Congress on October 21. A national referendum on whether or not to make the document official is scheduled for January 25, 2009.

"Now we have made history," President Evo Morales told supporters in La Paz. "This process of change cannot be turned back...neoliberalism will never return to Bolivia."

If the constitution is approved in the January referendum, a new general election will take place in December of 2009.

Leading up to Congress's approval, Morales participated in sections of a march from Caracollo in Oruro to La Paz, a distance of over 100 miles and involving an estimated 100,000 union members, activists, students, farmers and miners.

The march took place to pressure opposition members in Congress into backing the constitution and referendum. When marchers arrived in La Paz they packed the center of the city to historic levels. Some media outlets said the march, which stretched 15 kilometers, was the longest one ever in the capital.

More:
http://www.alternet.org/audits/104349/massive_political_upheaval_in_bolivia_signals_the_decline_of_u.s._influence_in_latin_america/
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