Conn. looking into voter cards submitted by ACORN

[underpants]

Source: AP

HARTFORD, Conn. - The State Elections Enforcement Commission is looking into a complaint alleging that a community advocacy group submitted fraudulent voter registration cards in Bridgeport.

Joseph Borges, Bridgeport's Republican registrar of voters, filed the complaint. He said he has found problems with numerous voter registration cards submitted by the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, or ACORN, which works to register low-income people.

In one instance, he says a card was filled out for a 7-year-old girl, whose age was listed as 27 on the card.

ACORN filed more than 8,000 cards in Bridgeport. The complaint involves 10, but Borges said there were problems with many others.

ACORN works in low-income communities that trend Democratic. Republicans have used the reports of fraud to raise questions about the possibility of more widespread misdeeds and Election Day antics, such as using phony voter registrations to cast absentee ballots.



Read more: http://www.courant.com/news/local/statewire/hc-09180536.apds.m0342.bc-ct--voteoct09,0,6354551.story

[EFerrari]

1. It won't matter. ACORN is clean.

This is just more bullshit.

[underpants]

4. As you posted on the other thread-I agree

they are too professional to make such errors plus they had to know they were going to come after them. I smell a rat. A Mole actually

[EFerrari]

10. I don't mean to spam your thread.

This whole ACORN meme is baloney -- a cover for vote suppression. For example, the SOS of Ohio had nothing but good to say about ACORN today on Amy's show.

The Republicans need a cover for their theft. They hope ACORN will be one of those.

[underpants]

11. That is clearly it

Lou Dobbs had a whole segment on it. Lou was just beside himself!!

[Phred42]

12. So was Don Sieglman

[EFerrari]

14. Exactly. And we're still deaing with the same corrupt DoJ. n/t

[NYVet]

20. They are just not checking up on the work their employees and contractors are doing.

They could have avoided this if they had taken a couple of minutes and look at a sample of registrations from each contractor and employee. If something looked fishy, then give it a second look.

They didn't, and they got this publicity. Sucks to be them.

[Roy]

23. They take more than a couple of minutes to check.....

the registrations that are turned in. when fraudulent or suspected cards are turned in Acorn turns them over to elections supervisors so they can go after the person who turned them, wonder why they never go after these people.
The massive amount that they handle guarantees they will miss a few, but still why are they trying to make it seem that Acorn is intentionally committing fraud rather than going after the people reported by Acorn who intentionally turn in fraudulent cards?

Is it because they know this is an orchestrated move for republicans to sign up and intentionally turn in fraudulent cards to shut Acorn down from registering all those poor Dem voters?

Repubs have been doing this for years.

[NYVet]

24. It doesn't appear that way

According to the US Census Bureau, Ohio's population increased by only 1.1%. It fell by 5.7% in Cuyahoga County, the same place where ACORN reports it's registered 85,000 new voters.

You are going to tell me that this didn't set off a bell somewhere?

[EFerrari]

30. The Ohio Secretary of State said yesterday on Amy Goodman's show

that she had no problem with ACORN.

Maybe the bells you're hearing are in your own head?

[EFerrari]

29. Back that up. They absolutely are checking behind their people

AND they are flagging suspicious reg forms.

Get a fact before you spread this cr@p or it will suck to be you.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x4207271

[amdezurik]

2. yeah they had the horrible problem

of registering as Dems...

[LonelyLRLiberal]

3. Actually, ACORN might not have intentionally submitted fraudulent registrations, but

they could be using people who are paid per registration, and they could have been just making up registrations to get paid. Ever think about that?

[Gin]

5. I heard some city found 2100 of the 5000 registrations to be frauds...

can they tell who the person was who turned in the info? They mentioned all the frauds had the same writing and signature.

I agree that they were paid by the number of signatures.

[stillcool]

6. I'd like to know which city that is..

and who you heard it from. Sounds like a whopper!

[Gin]

8. CNN had a reporter there...and the city workers were discussing this...don't recall the city...

gin

[underpants]

9. Lake County Indiana

This stinks of either a mole or just wild allegations

Lou Dobbs had an entire segment on it.

[EFerrari]

31. If Lou Dobbs had it, it must be from a hate site, where he gets the rest

of his content.

[cowbear]

7. I think that's probably true...

I think there are probably a few bad apples who made up registrations in order to get paid more. If that's the case, then the only people defrauded here is ACORN. A paid registrant may be interested in the paycheck part, not the election part. (Not all, but some) There is no evidence that any of these "false" registrations intend to vote on election day.

This is probably just the next trick up the sleve...call the election into question so you have an excuse if you lose. Or worse, my biggest fear is that McCain's campaign will try to sue to have election results overturned if they lose...based on "voter fraud." Never mind the Republican frauds of 2000 and 2004...those were fine...patriotic even! (Please note my sarcasm!)

[EFerrari]

15. The most McBomb can do is sue for a recount, venue by venue.

And that will hurt him, not us. fyi

[DBoon]

17. "bad apple"? or republican saboteur?

wouldn't take much to place a few corrupt registrants into ACORN

:tinfoilhat:

[EC]

13. I'll bet anything that the RNC hired operatives to register to vote

using dumb names or dead people, etc. just to have a few bad ones to try and spoil them all. Running through the channels on TV just a little while ago, I noticed on Fox they were talking about this showing several states, so I'll just bet it's a concerted effort in the RNC...

[EFerrari]

16. And remember that our "justice" department has been thoroughly corrupted.

They could easily start an "investigation" in every single state ACORN is operating in on no, nada, nothing. I'm surprised they haven't done that yet.

[smokey nj]

18. Here's a link to Bradblog's response in the thread about the ACORN raid in Las Vegas

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=3532148&mesg_id=3532731

These charges are bullshit. ACORN verifies voter registrations. Since they can't just toss the fraudulent registrations, they flag them before they turn them over to elections officials.

[underpants]

21. Ah so the "half" of the registrations that appear to be frauds were flagged as such by ACORN

Figures

I know that there were two incidents in 2004-one ACORN reported itself and the other they fully turned over all information to authorities (FEC I think)

David Iglesias was fired for NOT indicting ACORN
David Iglesias told Newsweek that he found no case worth bringing against ACORN. But that apparently did not please the White House. Last week Attorney General Alberto Gonzales's ex-chief of staff D. Kyle Sampson testified that during the run-up to the mid-term election White House adviser Karl Rove complained that Iglesias and two other U.S. Attorneys had not done enough to prosecute so-called voter fraud.
http://www.bradblog.com/?p=4372

ACORN and U.S. Attorney Firings

In fact, two of the nine U.S. Attorneys who were fired in 2006 were targeted because they refused to bring criminal charges against individuals affiliated with ACORN, according to interviews and a Justice Department report issued last week on the circumstances behind the federal prosecutor firings. The firing of another U.S. Attorney was due, in large part, to his refusal to convene a grand jury and secure an indictment against individuals for voter fraud.

But it’s the firing of former New Mexico U.S. Attorney David Iglesias and the accusations of voter fraud leveled against ACORN by GOP operatives in that state that appeared to be the most egregious case of partisan politics, according to the DOJ report.

Even President George W. Bush said he was concerned about widespread voter fraud, despite the fact that evidence of such crimes was virtually non-existent. Bush, according to the DOJ report, “spoke with Attorney General Gonzales in October 2006 about their concerns over voter fraud in three cities, one of which was Albuquerque, New Mexico.”
http://www.pubrecord.org/nationworld/376-acorn-long-a-target-of-gop-operatives.html

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/10/mccin_campantiacorn_campaign_g.php

[NMDemDist2]

19. from ACORN's website

Anytime ACORN quality control staff has identified a suspicious application, we have separated that application out and flagged it for election officials. We turn any suspicious applications to election officials separately, along with a cover sheet identifying the nature of the problem and an offer to provide election officials with the information they would need to pursue an investigation or prosecution of the individual. (Note that civic organizations are required by law to turn over ANY signed voter registration applications even when they are known to have problems). We immediately dismiss any employees we suspect of submitting fraudulent registrations.


by law they HAVE to turn in ALL applications but they flag the suspicious ones (as they should!)

[underpants]

22. David Iglesias was fired as US Attorney for NOT indicting ACORN

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=4205876&mesg_id=4205876

[truthisfreedom]

25. Bring it fucking on!

Anything they want to do!

[tom_paine]

26. Isn't it amazing how well Bushie Propaganda Ops work EVEN NOW!

In so many ways, it's just like 2000. Except worse because the Bushies, like the Nazis before them, now ahve "all the power of the state" to lend to their criminal enterprises.

Why, oh why are free societies almost completely incapable of dealing from monstrous tryrants who grow within and coup "legally".

This same, pathetic show has repeated itself in hundreds of nations across thousands of years of history.

And, with the briefest, tiniest of exceptions, it succeeds every time. EVERY TIME. From Caesar to Hitler, Mussolini and Bush, every time it is tried, it succeeds, at least for awhile.

Amerikan Society is as incapable as German Society was in the 30s to stop THEIR Bushies.

Maybe we can elect Obama, though I have my doubts, watching this the Bushies do their Evil Thing That Always Works. Maybe this will be the first time it doesn't.

Don't get me wrong. I am NOT advocating giving up or anything even close to that. I have been volunteering for the Obama Campiagn and keeping my feelings to myself while I am there.

But I know what I know. I just hope that I am wrong this time.

[droidamus2]

27. questions

The official says the complaint was for 10, how did the person making the complaint know it was only 10? The official said there were many more. Really, how many and were those from ACORN as well? For any group that turns in 8000 registrations what is the expected 'invalid' rate? Did ACORN indicate in any way that they felt some of the forms turned in were probably not valid? They are required to turn in all forms that are filled out whether they think they are valid or not. It is the Registrar of voters job to determine there validity. Since they are required to check I would guess that they expect a certain percentage to be invalid.

[EFerrari]

28. I read on another thread that ACORN tries to flag the ones

that seem problematic. But with their volume, it must be hard to catch them all.