BREAKING: House Passes Financial Markets (Bailout) Bill 263-171

[kirby]

Source: MSNBC

The House concurred with the same bill as the Senate, so the bill will be immediately sent to the President for signing.

Democratic Yea 172, Nay 63

Republican Yea 91, Nay 108

Totals 263 171



Read more: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26987291/

[davepc]

1. vote totals?

[livelongandprosper]

3. So far 250 165 n/t

[Maeve]

8. Vote is still open and changing at this moment eom

[lostnotforgotten]

2. Bend Over To Receive Your Just Rewards - We Are So *ucked!

eom

[ixion]

5. and don't forget the lubricant...

there's always time for lubricant...it's going to be a long screwing. :(

[Thothmes]

40. Lubricant wont do you any good

they throw sand in the vasaline.

[OhioChick]

4. Screwed we are. n/t

[barbtries]

6. bye bye oh america why?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x4160384

[aquart]

7. Idiots are us.

[theDash]

10. dow dropped 70 points after announcement

i thought this is what they wanted? I expected at least a 200 point surge immediately on announcement

[ShortnFiery]

9. Welcome to The Corporate States of America - Welcome my son, welcome to the machine.

:grr:

[notadmblnd]

11. So, are the stock markets shooting up?

[kirby]

12. I think they are dropping right now (off highs of the day) n/t

[theDash]

13. not yet

appears to be a pullback for now

[ShortnFiery]

15. Yes, everything is going to be just fine NOW.

[Robbins]

14. Democrats

Again our side did better than getting our members to vote for It.Mark my word the 108 Republicans
In the House and any Republican senator who voted against It are going to run against this bill.

[harun]

17. As I have said previously from the beginning the Dems should have told

the Repub leadership if they don't get a majority of their people to vote for it ALL dem's will vote no.

They are going to run against this now and say the economy is failing from the "Dem" plan.

[Robbins]

68. House

My feeling was Pelosi should not have allowed a vote Inless The Republican leadership assured her 100
Republicans would vote for It.

[harun]

73. That would have worked also (n/t)

[theDash]

18. Dow was at 230 when news broke

that they had enough votes. Down 100 pts from there at the moment

Better see a big jump here or a lot of congressmen are going to feel stupid, because I think the main thing that swayed them was the fear of the stock market going down further and eroding 401k's of their constituents (especially elderly who depend on them for retirement)

[Roland99]

29. Dropped over 210pts...DJIA now only at +14

[Roland99]

32. Now it's +114! WTH??

[Baby Snooks]

53. Now down to 10,500

Up about 50 from yesterday. Some investors worry about what effect the forced sale of banks is going to have on other bank stocks. And they worry about the commodities markets/hedge funds. And they worry about a lot of things that the $700 billion will have no effect on.

Fact is the $700 billion is to ensure that the have-mores KEEP more and Congress could care less if the rest of us lose more. Including some of the haves. They are fast becoming part of the have-nots. All that matters are the have-mores. The haves who lied, cheated, stole and probably murdered along the way for the more.

The market may go back up. It may go back down. Either way the $700 billion is going down the toilet on Wall Street.

[OwnedByFerrets]

16. WTG Dems...you just gave the repugs a big plum....this will now

be known as the Bush-Paulson-Democratic Bailout of Wall Street Millionaires. Hope you are proud of yourselves. But, of course you are. Fucking idiots.

[ShortnFiery]

21. May I suggest "Useful Idiots?"

Sometimes I wonder if SOME democrats are not duped, but instead, they fully are bought into the deceit? :(

Our side, the democrats, has "rolled over" far too many times to chalk it all up to "idiocy."

[tom_paine]

89. Either that or blackmail or anthrax fears or whatever, it no longer matters.

All that matters is the result. Too late for any namby-pamby rationales and justifications.

[pokercat999]

90. When it comes to being owned by the corporations the

rethugs have a hard time keeping up with the democrats.

Actually I'm starting to welcome this crap as it brings us just one step closer to the final collapse and the next American Revolution. It is better to get it started so it may be over that much sooner. We have been too patient, for far too long.

[HillRodWins]

37. Pubbies Vote

Did the Nayes exceed the Ayes?  I am sure we will not hear the
end of that, if so.

[Juneboarder]

19. The World Is Over As We Know It!!

Isn't it nice to see how our country is run by a bunch of criminals?!?

[harun]

26. Not only do they steal from us, they convince people it is in their best interest to be robbed (n/t)

[Phred42]

20. The Democrats just committed Suicide

And have taken the rest of us with them

Stupid fucking bastards

[apnu]

27. Republicans too, 108 voted for it.

[HillRodWins]

44. Republicans voted 108 Naye

They had more Naye Votes than Aye votes.  Not good!

[Phred42]

47. The Repugs can now say that MOST of them voted against this.

In any case the Tone of teh Election JUST TOOK A HUGE REICH turn.

[marshall]

92. On the plus side--McCain, Obama, and Biden all voted for it

No harm, no foul as far as the presidential race goes--unless Palin can somehow knock McCain off the ticket and climb to the top.

Still, it must be hard for the Obama campaign to continue to push the difference between them and Bush when they're in bed with him as far as this very unpopular bill goes.

[Roland99]

22. i loves me some hyperinflation

[ShortnFiery]

33. Yes, please recall from your History books that hyper-inflation helped usher in more fear-mongering

and the blossoming of The Third Reich in 1930s Germany.



http://www.hermes-press.com/germany1930.htm

[fascisthunter]

23. I'm Sure all the Corporate Greed Heads are Happy

[harun]

28. Wait till their next conference calls, they will all talk about how much their

profits are going to increase now that Joe Sixpack owns the risk.

[Newsjock]

24. Thank you, rich elitist Democrats

Those of you who are well-to-do have just screwed over the rest of us for years, if not decades, if not the rest of our lives and those of our children. I hope you're happy.

And I don't want to hear any hollow protestations over how we "had" to pass this because things would have been "so much worse" if we did not. This is the Iraq war resolution all over again, and those Democrats who voted for this monstrosity will have this hanging around their necks when re-election time comes up and the nation is in no better (or even worse) shape than it is now.

I really wonder why I bother with this party.

[Runcible Spoon]

25. fuck.

sigh.

[emilyg]

34. What you said.

[Highway61]

30. They passed the buck...I mean bill

We have officially been robbed ladies and gentlemen :grr:

[balantz]

31. Big Anger Here

Backstabbers bent to the will of their corporate masters.

This democracy is truly fried and gone.

[Kolesar]

35. Would now be a bad time to re-introduce the Immigration Reform Act?

:hide:

[EFerrari]

39. Now would be a good time to tear that fence down

because the traffic is going in the other direction! :)

[Kolesar]

43. Ok

That was deep.

[shotten99]

36. Sad

I don't know which frightens(frightened) me more-Pass this god forsaken bailout or not passing it.

[ShortnFiery]

38. Where's the list of individuals? I want to know who voted "yes" so I can donate money to their

next democratic challenger in the next primary.

[ShortnFiery]

41. House Vote Tally - 3 Oct 08

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2008/roll681.xml

[Pastiche423]

76. At least I can vote for my rep, DeFazio in NOV

He voted NO

[OwnedByFerrets]

86. I wish I could vote for him...he is fabfazio!!!

[mcollier]

45. Watch out for the war with Russia now....

Fools Gold...

Hook, Line and Sinker....

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

42. I understand there will soon be a new measure before...

...Congress, even more urgent than the bailout:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=4160920&mesg_id=4160920

Don't forget to cast your vote.

[WallStreetNobody]

46. send a complain to cnbc for right-wing propaganda

Please send a complain to CNBC about what just aired through the link below:

Charlie Gasparino on CNBC just went off on a rant blaming the housing crisis on the Community Reinvestment Act (CRA) - this is a widely debunked racist right-wing talking point that was started by Ann Coulter of all people. While the others on the panel, who were actually financial experts, tried to argue against him he just shouted louder and louder and wouldn't let anyone speak and the piece ended. Please write to them through this link and complain about CNBC taking racist right-wing propaganda and pushing it as financial market analysis:

https://register.cnbc.com/email/EmailSupport.jsp

[kirby]

56. Also...

CNBC 'Power Lunch' folks, right after the vote, were getting ready to go to Nancy Pelosi who was getting ready to speak. Pelosi got a few sentences in and CNBC cut off the audio and said we are not going to go there. Then I heard in the background someone say, 'I guess we are worried she might hurt someone else feelings'.

[victordrazen]

48. I'm just sick. A manufactured crisis to make back the $

that Bush lost on his tax refunds and other failures then blame the fallout on the next guy.

[TroubleMan]

49. We're fucked.

It's hard to stay a Democrat when they do shit like this.

[dkofos]

50. Aw SHIT!!

[Baby Snooks]

51. And when the economy collapses anyway?

Who will they blame, these Republicrats, when the economy collapses anyway? We will be. The taxpayers. The citizens. We should have offered more of our money to save the economy. How selfish of us.

I have about 20 people who have agreed never to spend a moment of time or a dime in or on San Francisco if Nancy Pelosi is returned to Congress. She kept impeachment off the table. And knocked the economy off the table in the process.

She is who should be blamed when the economy collapses anyway.

[IndependentDem]

52. fuckers

:argh:

[workinclasszero]

54. Thank God we saved the rich

:sarcasm:....so they can fuck us all over again!

How about a little help for the unemployed and those who are losing their houses, Congress?

Congress and Wall Streets answer: Get a job you socialist welfare bums!:grr:

[SIMPLYB1980]

55. Good. nt

[frylock]

57. thanks for coming! see you again in another 6 months..

you know, when we need another 700 billy to throw down shitter.

[chill_wind]

58. Send all your thank you notes to the US Chamber of Commerce

and other friends and bedfellows here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=4143062&mesg_id=4143062

[musette_sf]

59. my DEM rep maintained his NO vote

through both iterations of this robbery of the American taxpayer.

GO PETE STARK!! (CA-13)

[GinaMaria]

65. You are very fortunate to be accurately represented

Wish I and others could say the same.

[musette_sf]

66. he's an "out" atheist too

i love my rep :loveya:

[Zhade]

85. That makes me want to steal him.

NT!

[bread_and_roses]

70. Hinchey of NY too! (n/t)

[htuttle]

60. I lost a bundle playing poker a while back...anyone know where I can apply for a bailout too?

[LatteLibertine]

61. How they voted for anyone that's interested

House vote

---- YEAS 263 ---

Abercrombie
Ackerman
Alexander
Allen
Andrews
Arcuri
Baca
Bachus
Baird
Baldwin
Barrett (SC)
Bean
Berkley
Berman
Berry
Biggert
Bishop (GA)
Bishop (NY)
Blunt
Boehner
Bonner
Bono Mack
Boozman
Boren
Boswell
Boucher
Boustany
Boyd (FL)
Brady (PA)
Brady (TX)
Braley (IA)
Brown (SC)
Brown, Corrine
Buchanan
Calvert
Camp (MI)
Campbell (CA)
Cannon
Cantor
Capps
Capuano
Cardoza
Carnahan
Carson
Castle
Clarke
Cleaver
Clyburn
Coble
Cohen
Cole (OK)
Conaway
Cooper
Costa
Cramer
Crenshaw
Crowley
Cubin
Cuellar
Cummings
Davis (AL)
Davis (CA)
Davis (IL)
Davis, Tom
DeGette
DeLauro
Dent
Dicks
Dingell
Donnelly
Doyle
Dreier
Edwards (MD)
Edwards (TX)
Ehlers
Ellison
Ellsworth
Emanuel
Emerson
Engel
Eshoo
Etheridge
Everett
Fallin
Farr
Fattah
Ferguson
Fossella
Foster
Frank (MA)
Frelinghuysen
Gerlach
Giffords
Gilchrest
Gonzalez
Gordon
Granger
Green, Al
Gutierrez
Hall (NY)
Hare
Harman
Hastings (FL)
Herger
Higgins
Hinojosa
Hirono
Hobson
Hoekstra
Holt
Honda
Hooley
Hoyer
Inglis (SC)
Israel
Jackson (IL)
Jackson-Lee (TX)
Johnson, E. B.
Kanjorski
Kennedy
Kildee
Kilpatrick
Kind
King (NY)
Kirk
Klein (FL)
Kline (MN)
Knollenberg
Kuhl (NY)
LaHood
Langevin
Larsen (WA)
Larson (CT)
Lee
Levin
Lewis (CA)
Lewis (GA)
Lewis (KY)
Loebsack
Lofgren, Zoe
Lowey
Lungren, Daniel E.
Mahoney (FL)
Maloney (NY)
Markey
Marshall
Matsui
McCarthy (NY)
McCollum (MN)
McCrery
McGovern
McHugh
McKeon
McNerney
McNulty
Meek (FL)
Meeks (NY)
Melancon
Miller (NC)
Miller, Gary
Miller, George
Mitchell
Mollohan
Moore (KS)
Moore (WI)
Moran (VA)
Murphy (CT)
Murphy, Patrick
Murtha
Myrick
Nadler
Neal (MA)
Oberstar
Obey
Olver
Ortiz
Pallone
Pascrell
Pastor
Pelosi
Perlmutter
Peterson (PA)
Pickering
Pomeroy
Porter
Price (NC)
Pryce (OH)
Putnam
Radanovich
Rahall
Ramstad
Rangel
Regula
Reyes
Reynolds
Richardson
Rogers (AL)
Rogers (KY)
Ros-Lehtinen
Ross
Ruppersberger
Rush
Ryan (OH)
Ryan (WI)
Sarbanes
Saxton
Schakowsky
Schiff
Schmidt
Schwartz
Scott (GA)
Sessions
Sestak
Shadegg
Shays
Shuster
Simpson
Sires
Skelton
Slaughter
Smith (TX)
Smith (WA)
Snyder
Solis
Souder
Space
Speier
Spratt
Sullivan
Sutton
Tancredo
Tanner
Tauscher
Terry
Thompson (CA)
Thornberry
Tiberi
Tierney
Towns
Tsongas
Upton
Van Hollen
Velázquez
Walden (OR)
Walsh (NY)
Wamp
Wasserman Schultz
Waters
Watson
Watt
Waxman
Weiner
Welch (VT)
Weldon (FL)
Weller
Wexler
Wilson (NM)
Wilson (OH)
Wilson (SC)
Wolf
Woolsey
Wu
Yarmuth

---- NAYS 171 ---

Aderholt
Akin
Altmire
Bachmann
Barrow
Bartlett (MD)
Barton (TX)
Becerra
Bilbray
Bilirakis
Bishop (UT)
Blackburn
Blumenauer
Boyda (KS)
Broun (GA)
Brown-Waite, Ginny
Burgess
Burton (IN)
Butterfield
Buyer
Capito
Carney
Carter
Castor
Cazayoux
Chabot
Chandler
Childers
Clay
Conyers
Costello
Courtney
Culberson
Davis (KY)
Davis, David
Davis, Lincoln
Deal (GA)
DeFazio
Delahunt
Diaz-Balart, L.
Diaz-Balart, M.
Doggett
Doolittle
Drake
Duncan
English (PA)
Feeney
Filner
Flake
Forbes
Fortenberry
Foxx
Franks (AZ)
Gallegly
Garrett (NJ)
Gillibrand
Gingrey
Gohmert
Goode
Goodlatte
Graves
Green, Gene
Grijalva
Hall (TX)
Hastings (WA)
Hayes
Heller
Hensarling
Herseth Sandlin
Hill
Hinchey
Hodes
Holden
Hulshof
Hunter
Inslee
Issa
Jefferson
Johnson (GA)
Johnson (IL)
Johnson, Sam
Jones (NC)
Jordan
Kagen
Kaptur
Keller
King (IA)
Kingston
Kucinich
Lamborn
Lampson
Latham
LaTourette
Latta
Linder
Lipinski
LoBiondo
Lucas
Lynch
Mack
Manzullo
Marchant
Matheson
McCarthy (CA)
McCaul (TX)
McCotter
McDermott
McHenry
McIntyre
McMorris Rodgers
Mica
Michaud
Miller (FL)
Miller (MI)
Moran (KS)
Murphy, Tim
Musgrave
Napolitano
Neugebauer
Nunes
Paul
Payne
Pearce
Pence
Peterson (MN)
Petri
Pitts
Platts
Poe
Price (GA)
Rehberg
Reichert
Renzi
Rodriguez
Rogers (MI)
Rohrabacher
Roskam
Rothman
Roybal-Allard
Royce
Salazar
Sali
Sánchez, Linda T.
Sanchez, Loretta
Scalise
Scott (VA)
Sensenbrenner
Serrano
Shea-Porter
Sherman
Shimkus
Shuler
Smith (NE)
Smith (NJ)
Stark
Stearns
Stupak
Taylor
Thompson (MS)
Tiahrt
Turner
Udall (CO)
Udall (NM)
Visclosky
Walberg
Walz (MN)
Westmoreland
Whitfield (KY)
Wittman (VA)
Young (AK)
Young (FL)

Senate vote

YEAs ---74

Akaka (D-HI)
Alexander (R-TN)
Baucus (D-MT)
Bayh (D-IN)
Bennett (R-UT)
Biden (D-DE)
Bingaman (D-NM)
Bond (R-MO)
Boxer (D-CA)
Brown (D-OH)
Burr (R-NC)
Byrd (D-WV)
Cardin (D-MD)
Carper (D-DE)
Casey (D-PA)
Chambliss (R-GA)
Clinton (D-NY)
Coburn (R-OK)
Coleman (R-MN)
Collins (R-ME)
Conrad (D-ND)
Corker (R-TN)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Craig (R-ID)
Dodd (D-CT)
Domenici (R-NM)
Durbin (D-IL)
Ensign (R-NV)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Graham (R-SC)
Grassley (R-IA)
Gregg (R-NH)
Hagel (R-NE)
Harkin (D-IA)
Hatch (R-UT)
Hutchison (R-TX)
Inouye (D-HI)
Isakson (R-GA)
Kerry (D-MA)
Klobuchar (D-MN)
Kohl (D-WI)
Kyl (R-AZ)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Leahy (D-VT)
Levin (D-MI)
Lieberman (ID-CT)
Lincoln (D-AR)
Lugar (R-IN)
Martinez (R-FL)
McCain (R-AZ)
McCaskill (D-MO)
McConnell (R-KY)
Menendez (D-NJ)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Murkowski (R-AK)
Murray (D-WA)
Nelson (D-NE)
Obama (D-IL)
Pryor (D-AR)
Reed (D-RI)
Reid (D-NV)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Salazar (D-CO)
Schumer (D-NY)
Smith (R-OR)
Snowe (R-ME)
Specter (R-PA)
Stevens (R-AK)
Sununu (R-NH)
Thune (R-SD)
Voinovich (R-OH)
Warner (R-VA)
Webb (D-VA)
Whitehouse (D-RI)

NAYs ---25

Allard (R-CO)
Barrasso (R-WY)
Brownback (R-KS)
Bunning (R-KY)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Cochran (R-MS)
Crapo (R-ID)
DeMint (R-SC)
Dole (R-NC)
Dorgan (D-ND)
Enzi (R-WY)
Feingold (D-WI)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Johnson (D-SD)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Nelson (D-FL)
Roberts (R-KS)
Sanders (I-VT)
Sessions (R-AL)
Shelby (R-AL)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Tester (D-MT)
Vitter (R-LA)
Wicker (R-MS)
Wyden (D-OR)
Not Voting - 1
Kennedy (D-MA)

[AllexxisF1]

62. We are doomed.

With pen to paper the demise of this Democracy has officially been sealed.


Their is no hope anymore.

[Javaman]

63. huh, funny, I don't feel bailed out.

funny how a bill that started off as only 3 pages long; fails, then bumped up to 106; fails, then 400+ from the senate loaded with pork; passes.

yeah, this will work out reeeeeeeeeeeal well.

but don't look at the market, while the voting was going on, it dropped almost 700 smackers, but it's recovered, hell right now, it's up a 3 1/2 whole points!!!

can you just feeeeeeeel the recovery???!!!

[Yuugal]

64. I give up

As long as we have rich dems as our reps we will never get justice.

[GetTheRightVote]

69. I could not agree more, the wealthy with their greed will always hold us down

until we do something about it ourselves.

:grr::grr:

[Kitsune]

67. Why do we even fucking bother?

I'm entirely serious. I am so god damn pissed off right now.

What the fuck did I vote Dem in 2006 for? This? This is simply unacfuckingceptable.

[high density]

71. Glad to see the majority of DU would enjoy seeing our economy crash and burn

By the sounds of things you'd think that congress had just taken another wheelbarrow of cash over to Iraq. At least this money is going to be used domestically. We need to end the credit squeeze, and if this is what it takes then let's see what happens.

[Roland99]

72. Way to put words in everyone's mouth. And if you think this will fix things...

:eyes:


Seen the TED spread lately? 3.86.


This won't fix anything but the personal net worth of a select few.

[high density]

77. How do you know it WON'T fix things?

My issue is with people who think they have the benefit of hindsight before we've even tried to do something.

This is not a universal fix to our problems by any means, and the crap they added onto it in the Senate should make anybody incensed. Still, I think doing nothing would've been worse.

[Roland99]

83. Doing nothing would have been the RIGHT thing to do. Read this >>>>>

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/Roland99/48

[Baby Snooks]

74. Check the market at closing...

Wall Street may love it but investors don't. The market fell 157 points. And probably will fall lower on Monday. We need to end the credit squeeze? The only people who will get credit are the crooks who need the cash to cook the books to give the appearance that they are solvent. Except for the banks. The carnage there has begun. Citigroup intends to buy Wachovia. With YOUR money. Tight credit? You haven't seen tight credit yet. Wait a month. Then go apply for a car loan. If you can find a dealership that is still in business. PT Barnum was right. There's a sucker born every minute. Billie Holliday is singing in the background at the moment. "Thems that's got shall get..."

Do you have grandchildren? They will remember you fondly. Every year on April 15th. Nancy Pelosi's grandchildren will change their names. As they should.

[high density]

75. States can't even get credit

The economy is a lot broader than the DJIA.

[SahaleArm]

93. States won't raise taxes to the pay higher rates.

Sometimes tough choices have to be made; everyone is happy to borrow and spend.

[mcollier]

78. ATTN: Trouble Trouble and More Trouble

Must See: Derivative Holding by Top Banks...

http://www.occ.treas.gov/ftp/release/2008-74a.pdf

Page 22

Better watch the banks on the list.... They are in serious trouble...

Next there will be a plan B Bailout2.0

Mark My Words....

[lonestarnot]

79. Any rioting in the streets yet?

[Supersedeas]

80. Eric the Coward Cantor and Adam Powerpuff Putnam recovered from their hurt feelings to vote for

the bailout -- how's that for a principled stand?

[kirby]

82. I heard Barney Frank gave them a backrub n/t

[katty]

81. mission accomplished-bush to america: buh-bye!!

[Zhade]

84. Well, we're fucked.

I'd love to be proven wrong... but I won't be - just as I wasn't wrong regarding the Patriot Act, the WMD bullshit, and so much more that I wish I had been wrong about.

[sarcasmo]

87. Say hello to Corporate Fascism.

[Hotler]

88. This proves that no matter...

who get elected that there will be now change. There coming for your savings next.

[Blue_Tires]

91. it would have been cheaper to just scratch out a check to every american....

i hope at least with the money, some MUCH stronger regulations were enacted (yeah, right)