McCain ad links Obama to Chavez

[Nambe]

Source: The Boston Globe

A day after raising some eyebrows for not promising to meet with Spain's prime minister, John McCain unveiled a TV ad trying to tar Barack Obama for being willing to meet with Venezuela's leader Hugo Chavez.

The ad is to air in Spanish in Florida, a near must-win for McCain and a state where Latinos are a key constituency. Chavez is notoriously anti-American and is allied with Fidel Castro, who is vilified by Cuban exiles who are key Republicans.

The ad alternates criticisms of Obama with Chavez tirades against the United States, with profanities bleeped out. ...

Read more: http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/

[southpaw]

1. Jesus Fuckin' a Football!

Can that geezer get any more slimy?

On second thought, no need to answer!:mad:

[DesertFlower]

5. i coudn't have said it better.

:toast:

[bulloney]

20. In another ad, McCain links Hurricane Ike to Obama.

[firedupdem]

2. Repigs are really sick individuals. The Lies are starting to

really getting worse each day. They have no shame. They really do insult the intelligence of American people. They realize there are some uninformed people that will believe anything they say.

[d_b]

4. they're desperate

[Ian David]

3. Now we have to debunk that and link McCain to the Civil War in The Georgian Republic. n/t

[atreides1]

6. No

Link him to Uncle Ho or General Giap.

[Pete2069]

25. Just Tell the truth and link him the Russia - George Conflict

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/12/AR2008081202932.html
The McCain campaign said Georgia's lobbying contract with
Orion Strategies had no bearing on the candidate's decision to
speak with President Mikheil Saakashvili and did not influence
his statement. 
 Another measure lobbied by Orion and co-sponsored by McCain,
the NATO Freedom Consolidation Act of 2006, would have
authorized a $10 million grant for Georgia. 

For months while McCain's presidential campaign was gearing
up, Scheunemann held dual roles, advising the candidate on
foreign policy while working as Georgia's lobbyist. Between
Jan. 1, 2007, and May 15, 2008, the campaign paid Scheunemann
nearly $70,000 to provide foreign policy advice. During the
same period, the government of Georgia paid his firm $290,000
in lobbying fees. 

Since 2004, Orion has collected $800,000 from the government
of Georgia. 

[denverbill]

13. You could probably like him to the American Civil War in Georgia while you're at it. n/t

[dgibby]

26. Civil War

No doubt you could also link him to the War Between the States, considering his age!:rofl:

[Just-plain-Kathy]

19. Every time I hear ANYONE from either side, talk about Russia attacking Georgia,

I want to scream. McCain and Palin repeat that lie over and over again. It was Georgia who drew first blood. The neo-cons want to start WWIII.

[BlueStater]

7. Is he anti-American or just anti-Bush? n/t

[Odin2005]

8. OH NOES!!! THE COMMIES ARE COMMING!!! THE COMMIES ARE COMMING!!!

:sarcasm:

[Frisbee]

9. Correction...

"Chavez is notoriously anti-American" Wrong.

Chavez is notoriously anti-Bush, which means he'd be notoriously anti-McPOW if the geezer manages to steal the election.

edited for spelling, or lack of.

[Politicalboi]

10. That's what I thought too

If Chavez is so anti-american why does he give some east coast people out here cheap oil? Just like the UN meeting with Ahmadinejad. How is talking so dangerous? We see what happens when you have a disengaged President. I would rather have communication anyday.

[krkaufman]

30. One example of the anti-American Chavez's hatred of the United States

Heating oil for US poor

Chavez Boosts Heating Oil Program for U.S. Poor; Goes After Bush Again
by IAN JAMES
Associated Press
Thursday, September 21, 2006; 4:59 PM

NEW YORK (AP) -- Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez visited a Harlem church Thursday and promised to double the amount of discounted heating oil his country ships to needy Americans. But he also took another swipe at President Bush.

...

Chavez also announced that Citgo, the U.S.-based refining arm of Venezuela's state-run oil company, plans to more than double the amount of heating oil it is making available under the program to 100 million gallons this winter, up from 40 million gallons.

He said the oil will reach people in 18 states, including Indians in Alaska, some of whom were flown to New York for the ceremony and attended in traditional dress. They performed a traditional dance for Chavez and offered him a walrus figurine carved out of whale bone as a gift.

Chavez started the heating oil program last winter, accusing Bush of neglecting the poor. The United States continues to be the top buyer of Venezuelan oil, bringing the South American country billions of dollars in earnings that help fund Chavez's popular social programs.

The gal that cuts my hair, a long time immigrant from Mexico, viewed Chavez as evil, until I explained some of the background (coup, anti-Bush, nationalization and focus on poverty) and our media bias.

[McCamy Taylor]

11. Can we show it around the country? Chavez has higher ratings than Bush.

[EFerrari]

17. LOL

:rofl:

:applause:

[krkaufman]

31. My favorite Chavez rant against Bush...

Chavez: "The devil came here yesterday. And it smells of sulfur still today."

Classic!

(link)

[fascisthunter]

12. And I Link McCain to Bush

[bunnies]

14. Thank you Hugo Chavez, for the discount heating oil!

Many people up here in New England would freeze without ya!

[kmdemqueen]

15. McCain is going down in flames

That is right and you they know it to.

[mcg]

16. I link Richard Nixon to Chairman Mao Zedong

http://www.china-embassy.org/eng/zmgx/zmgx/Political%20Relationship/t298865.htm

[mcg]

18. and John McCain to Phung Van Chung

Senator John McCain embraces Communist party official Phung Van Chung in his trips to Viet Nam

http://rafaelmartel.com/2008/04/18/vietnamese-tell-international-press-that-pow-mccain-was-singled-out-for-softer-treatment

[MasonJar]

21. Chavez

Good for Obama. Chavez is the "cat's meow" in my book. He is one leader who has bravely stood up to the evil ones in the WH.

[NashVegas]

22. Let's See, a President Chavez Hates, Or a President He'll Cooperate With ..

Tough call.

[davepc]

23. I'm sure the Cuban exiles who equal Castro with Chavez will see it that way and vote for Obama...

Oh wait...

[NashVegas]

24. And Women Will All Vote For McPalin ...

[EFerrari]

32. All 12 of them. n/t

[Joe Chi Minh]

27. Linking Obama with even greater success doesn't sound a good tactic to me.

Especially, with the dire straits the US capitalism paradigm, red in tooth and claw is is in right now - this time, in a great ocean of its own blood.

[hedgehog]

28. Not something I'd bring up right now, but I somehow suspect

that an Obama administration will get along just fine with Chavez. Recognizing national sovereignty and not financing and guiding coup attempts will make for a better relationship!

[and-justice-for-all]

29. LIAR...

A) Chavez is NOT anti-American; he is anti-bush.

B) There is NOTHING wrong with meeting with foreign leaders. the majority of us prefer it over invading and bombing them or having them over thrown when they rightfully won in their elections.

[IndianaGreen]

33. Viva Chavez! Viva Venezuela! Down with the Venezuelan elites and their American allies!

It is no accident that the Venezuelan elites, that pride themselves in how white they are, and their American allies are all bent out of shape by the wave of progressive Latin American leaders such as Venzuela's President Hugo Chaves, Ecuador's President Rafael Correa, Bolivia's President Evo Morales, Nicaragua's President Danny Ortega, and Honduran President Manuel Zelaya; a majority of which having a mixed ethnic or indigeneous background.

Honduras: A New Dawn in Central America

By Marcos Alfonso

According to the Aristos Spanish dictionary, Alba means: “Dawn. The first light of the day”…What happened in Tegucigalpa, Honduras on Monday, reflects such content.

The notable and great difference for those wanting to join the Bolivarian Alternative for the Americas is accepting: integration, development, sisterhood, justice and solidarity. “It is a Latin American social agreement and an association between States”, said Honduran President Manuel Zelaya.

In December of 2001, on the occasion of the 3rd Summit of the Association of Caribbean States when Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez launched the initiative, a strong blow was given to Washington’s imposed neo liberal policies in the region.

With the entry of Honduras, there are six nations that have already joined the regional integration system, Venezuela, Cuba, Bolivia, Ecuador and Nicaragua, whose objective is the integration of the nations of Latin America and the Caribbean.

Zelaya, addressing the powerful sectors of the country said firmly they should leave aside any doubts and not give opinions on what they do not know: “support the people because this is a project for the people”.

Another side of such oligarchy reaction is related to the attitude that the US could take towards the small South American nation. The Honduran Head of
State was tacit: “No one has the right to decide what should be done, on the contrary, our freedom of association and integration with Central America and Latin America to move forward must be respected.”

The literacy programs using the Cuban method “Yo Si Puedo” or “Yes I Can”, the Operation Milagro eye program which has taken health care to the most remote areas of the region , scholarships to the Havana based Schools of Medicine and Sports, oil supplies and other cooperation programs are just the beginning.

With fairness and respect for sovereignty as standard, ALBA opens the way to stalling neoliberalism, which under the new Free Trade Agreements has done nothing but add to the misery and inequality of the peoples in this part of the world.

http://www.periodico26.cu/english/opinion/august2008/honduras-alba082808.html

[Imagevision]

34. Chavez is notoriously anti-American because of Bush & Cheney

Actually Chavez has stated he is anxious to meet with Obama,

[Peace Patriot]

35. They think they can use their demonization of Chavez to demonize all "leftists"--

even someone like Obama who is basically a corporatist but with a stronger role for government in protecting the poor with a few mitigations (and a cleaner government, I should imagine). The Corpo fascists don't want even the most minor help to the poor. Thus they try to smear Obama as a "leftist"--merely because he says he will "talk to our enemies"--and even with him buying into the goddamn lie that Chavez is our "enemy."

You can't win with these fuckwads. So we (Democrats) should just go for it--a Bolivarian revolution here, with the Corpos put in their place--they do business with our permission; we charter them; we can pull their corporate charters--and with the people back in charge of our own country.

That's all that Chavez and the people of Venezuela have done--put the people in charge--to earn unending demonization, and a lies, psyops and disinformation campaign against a democratic country that is without precedent in this era. The Chavez government is merely asserting Venezuela's sovereignty, and has thus inspired an enormous rebellion against U.S. domination throughout South America that is quickly spreading to Central America. That is Chavez's crime. The rich fascist elites in Latin America have been looting their own countries for decades, and selling their countries--their resources and their people--down the river. Great Depression II hit them over the last decade. Its cause is fascist/Corpo looting, and giving nothing back to the societies they loot, just as they are now doing here. And the Corpos don't want you and me to know that there is an alternative--real democracy, sovereignty of the people, with business subordinated to the common good.

Venezuela is far more democratic than the U.S. They have far more free speech than we do--including having leaders who listen to them. They have an election system that puts ours to shame for its transparency, and integrity. And they have had a nearly 10% economic growth rate over the last five years, with the most growth in the private sector (not including oil). They have also eliminated illiteracy, and are providing universal health care and other benefits to all citizens, and are investing in long-neglected local and regional infrastructure and manufacturing. It is absolute bullshit that the Chavez government is a "dictatorship" or even tending that way. The only entities that Chavez has "dictated" to are Exxon Mobil and Chevron, and I wish we had a president who that kind of courage. FDR comes to mind.

"Organized money hates me--and I welcome their hatred." --Franklin Delano Roosevelt.

The rightwing called him a "dictator," too.

The success of the smear campaign against Chavez (now being extended to Chavez's strongest allies, Rafael Correa of Ecuador, and Evo Morales of Bolivia, and soon to be extended--mark my words--to Lula da Silva of Brazil, for his strong alliance with these leftist countries) has emboldened the Bushwhacks to try to smear Obama, too--Obama, whose program is no "New Deal," and can barely be described as leftist. What they fear is merely good government--non-corrupt government, government that has some care about its people. They know the truth about the Chavez government; that's why they fear it so much. They fear democracy itself. And, with Obama as president, we might make some inroads into restoring democracy here. They fear that more than anything. They fear us.

And the problem, my friends, is that too many posters at DU buy into the lies about Chavez, or actually promote these lies--or don't think about it much, and thus this poison seeps into their brains. Chavez the dictator. Some of us have fought this blatantly false psyops and disinformation campaign. But it has been an uphill battle, even here at DU, a supposedly leftist forum. And if you don't fight these kind of lies, they will bite you--as they are biting Obama now. Obama's going to "talk" to a "dictator." Whooey-whooey-whooey--bogeyman shudders! Saddam hanging from a rope, his old bones twitching in their death throes. Saddam the dictator. Chavez the dictator. Saddam, dictator. Chavez, dictator. Sadistic Chavez the dictator. Oh, dear! Oh, dear! Oh, dear! Save us, O Lord! Save us from torture and death camps and government spying and war and loss of our rights...and. Oh, oops. That's our Bushwhacks. Not Chavez.

Chavez is a democrat with a small d. Ask almost anybody in South America. Ask Lula da Silva. ("You can criticize Chavez on a lot of things, but not on democracy.") (They're going to get him for that--for telling the truth.) The facts that support this are overwhelming. Chavez has harmed no one, invaded no one, jailed no one unfairly, and has been running a scrupulously lawful, beneficial government for ten years. He has been elected by his people twice, and won a Bushwhack-funded recall election, with increasing margins of victory, in highly transparent and internationally monitored elections. His government has promoted maximum citizen participation--formally and informally. And this Venezuelan passion for democracy has spread all over the continent.

If we had even a halfway decent political culture here, our leaders would be praising Venezuela, and South America as a whole, for this amazing democracy movement. Instead, our Democrats feel compelled to tiptoe around, saying that they will "talk to our enemies" (what? before we bomb them to smithereens and steal their oil?)--in fear, I guess, of getting whacked themselves. whether literally or by the Corpo/fascist media (or by Diebold & brethren). I do understand this fear and caution. It is justifiable--though not admirable--considering conditions here. But I bring it up because we need to know the truth, and we are not getting it from our political leaders, and certainly not from the Pukes and their Corpo/fascist press.