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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 11:10 AM
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Obama (Camp) Response to Palin
Source: TIME - Mark Halperin

Today, John McCain put the former mayor of a town of 9,000 with zero foreign policy experience a heartbeat away from the presidency. Governor Palin shares John McCains commitment to overturning Roe v. Wade, the agenda of Big Oil and continuing George Bushs failed economic policies thats not the change we need, its just more of the same, said Bill Burton, Obama Campaign Spokesman.

Read more: http://thepage.time.com/obama-response-to-palin /
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 11:11 AM
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1. This choice is a serious reflection on John McCain's
judgment -- or lack thereof, more accurately. Sarah's okay as a governor of a state of 600,000 population, but a heartbeat away from the presidency? No f****** way.
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 11:31 AM
Response to Reply #1
7. his "choice" is politically motivated
has nothing to do with "country first" - it's mccain-GOP first.

if Clinton were the dem candidate - would mccain have found a black man as VP pick?

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Hand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 11:43 AM
Response to Reply #7
11. Alan Keyes, perhaps?
Hey, he's black... :rofl:
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George II Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 12:00 PM
Response to Reply #11
20. And he has gotten more votes in his failed elections than she got "winning" the governorship!
When elected less than two years ago!! she got a grand total of 114,000 votes!
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SissyBoy Donating Member (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 01:17 PM
Response to Reply #11
71. Palin Is A Wacko; Expose Her!
Did anyone else see that picture of her with a fish. What a Nazi nut! She is nothing but more of the same failed policies looking out for the oil industry. She has to be and will be stopped. Just because she has a vagina does mean we will vote for her. She is a hate-filled fraud. Biden will rip her lungs out in the debates.
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D23MIURG23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 03:45 PM
Response to Reply #71
177. With a fish? Makes her a Nazi?
I'm confused. Was there more to the picture? Do you have a link?
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Roy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 09:37 PM
Response to Reply #11
207. Yes, but only by profession n/t
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 12:44 PM
Response to Reply #7
42. "Country first"?
Yeah, I just noticed the McCain campaign theme of "Country First" and immediately began wondering if he valued country over party exactly why did he avidly support Bush during both of his elections and during his 8 years in office?
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Voice for Peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 02:25 PM
Response to Reply #42
143. why did he pick someone from an exotic foreign land, even if it's a state?
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 09:54 PM
Response to Reply #143
210. She may be the only republican with nothing on her coming from up there and all...
Edited on Fri Aug-29-08 09:55 PM by superconnected
but since she's a republican, I doubt it.
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George II Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 08:43 AM
Response to Reply #210
217. Oh, but she does have something on her...my prediction she'll withdraw before the end of Sept.
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razorman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 10:08 AM
Response to Reply #143
219. You mean like Hawaii? I'm afraid that argument won't gain traction,
since it can be used by both sides, and would insult the residents of two states.
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Hobarticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 12:55 PM
Response to Reply #7
50. My very first thought exactly...
It's so absurdly childlike of him to do so, but given her weak credentials, one can't help but think so.
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StClone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 01:36 PM
Response to Reply #50
91. Palin won the Iditarod!
The stench of desperation is all over this "Harrier Myers" of a political dog. What are her Positives really outside she's an exciting maverick (read idiotic) pick for pro-life Women. The only way McOldman beauty chaser (read story on BuzzFlash: http://www.buzzflash.com/articles/election08/315 ) can win this upcoming is to steal it!
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secondwind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 02:54 PM
Response to Reply #91
157. PALIN PICK
I have tried and tried all for three hours trying to visualize Sarah Palin standing beside Sarkozy .......nope, that doesn't work. Let's see...........Sarah Palin standing proudly shoulder to shoulder with Ahmadinejad..........can't visualize that either.........Okay, Sarah Palin sitting at a table discussing global poverty with Medvedev! Nah, even worse......All I can see this woman doing is what she has been doing........nothing. I bet Republicans are quacking in their boots right now!! Imagine little Sarah sitting down to debate BIDEN, of all people. He is going to chew her up and spit her out!


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StClone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 03:10 PM
Response to Reply #157
165. There is activity on one BIG front though (I smell Rove)
Edited on Fri Aug-29-08 03:11 PM by StClone
The Christian Cons are celebrating! Palin is one of THOSE freaks and needed to neutralize the pain they may get from voting for McLame.
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keroro gunsou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 04:16 PM
Response to Reply #157
183. that's the funny thing...
it gives the media a ready-made excuse for when biden hands her head in the debates... "look at mean old joe biden, picking on the poor little girl."

it sucks, but mark my words, that's how it'll get spun... not that biden won the debate, but he bullied a woman to do it.

still, that's not gonna stop my enjoyment of watching it go down mind you.... :D

sarah palin, 2008's dan quayle.
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connecticut yankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 04:20 PM
Response to Reply #157
186. She's called
"Sarah Barracuda"
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 01:11 PM
Response to Reply #7
65. But, don't you understand. For the Republicans GOP first IS country first.
They believe that they ARE the country. The rest of us can go to hell.
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SissyBoy Donating Member (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 01:29 PM
Response to Reply #7
83. KO Will Rip Palin
Did anyone see how KO rip the AP for being biased against Obama's speech. Great stuff. Where would we be without him? KO is the best. He will rip this broad apart.
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Lorentz Donating Member (302 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 12:08 PM
Response to Reply #1
26. The GOP is using taking advantage of a young, naive woman for their own benefit.
Is anyone surprised?
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pattmarty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 12:31 PM
Response to Reply #26
34. Naive, I don't think so. She is a 44 yo politico.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 12:46 PM
Response to Reply #34
44. Yeah, she's certainly not naive ...
... and she may be getting more out of this than McCain. Even if McCain doesn't win, she'll have a shot in 4 or 8 years.
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pattmarty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 04:43 PM
Response to Reply #44
194. Yep. That was my guess, not a fucking thing to lose, and .......
......going from bumfuckegypt unknown, to national recognition overnight.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 06:07 PM
Response to Reply #194
199. Agreed. At a minimum, it will insure her long-term incumbency as AK Gov....
... given the boost this will provide in her national name recognition and fund-raising. Without this, she might have been vulnerable to a Murkowsky-machine challenge in her next Gov. race.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 12:31 PM
Response to Reply #26
35. That's it exactly.
I don't have anything at all against Sarah Palin as governor of Alaska. She has been a breath of fresh air after the horrible Frank Murkowski, and she has stood up to the Corrupt Bastards, including Ted Stevens. She is just fine here -- she offers NOTHING on the national stage to the Republicans other than 1) she's a woman; 2) she's pro-life; and 3) she's a reformer. I think she'll very soon find herself in over her head. She's just a Valley girl from Wasilla (Matanuska Valley, to be exact) and everyone will soon find that out. I feel kind of sorry for her, actually, being made a pawn like this when she could have stayed in Alaska and continued to enjoy her 80% approval rating.

McCain is obviously desperate.
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jtb33 Donating Member (490 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 01:26 PM
Response to Reply #35
80. She has an EIGHTY (80) percent approval rating in AK???
Really? :/
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 01:43 PM
Response to Reply #80
93. Well, yes.
But that's 80% of Alaskans. It's not clear that she would do as well in the "lower 48".

By the way, I thought Hawaii was "foreign and exotic" when Obama went there to visit his grandmother, at least that's what Cokie said. Isn't Alaska also "foreign and exotic" in exactly the same way? We'll have to ask her.
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 02:38 PM
Response to Reply #93
152. that's an excellent point
somehow i don't think it will play in the msm. alaska will be as middle america as peoria.
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deaniac21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 07:16 PM
Response to Reply #93
220. You mean the lower 56.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 07:17 PM
Response to Reply #80
204. High oil prices = booming Alaskan economy = approving Alaskans
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Outlier Donating Member (98 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 01:33 PM
Response to Reply #35
89. nice to hear from
someone with first hand experience.
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KSDiva Donating Member (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 01:45 PM
Response to Reply #35
96. Thanks for the insight
I, too, am feeling a bit sorry for her. I think they were desperate to find a female Puke with no scandal or stains and she's totally being used.

Barack is going to ram her down McCain's throat on her inexperience and strong chance that she could be President with his age.

And Hillary's folks are not so stupid to just fall in line because he's picked another attractive woman, HILLARY is pro-woman and pro-choice!
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Kajsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 04:19 PM
Response to Reply #35
185. Thank you, Blue-In-AK.
It is good to hear from you.
You have more experience in knowing who Palin
is than most of us.

:hi:
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 08:58 AM
Response to Reply #35
218. I was waiting to see your take on this.
I know she's popular there. And my thought was the same as yours: McCain is very desperate, and he's going to use her. What a stupid decision on her part to accept though.
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SissyBoy Donating Member (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 01:32 PM
Response to Reply #26
86. No They Used Clarabelle Thomas
This is the dumbest SC justice in the history of the country. He is Scalia's lap dog. Repukes will do whatever it takes to dupe the American people. This is an obviously politically motivated and sophmoric decision by McLame?Bush Nazi scum.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 12:33 PM
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 12:36 PM
Response to Reply #37
40. Huh?
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 12:51 PM
Response to Reply #37
46. Not exactly vigorous analysis. n/t
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 12:53 PM
Response to Reply #37
48. You're on the wrong board n/t
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 01:14 PM
Response to Reply #37
69. And what site might that be?
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Mugweed Donating Member (939 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 01:22 PM
Response to Reply #37
77. get the perspective correctly
Edited on Fri Aug-29-08 01:37 PM by Mugweed
Grandpa McBush says that Obama doesn't have the experience
Grandpa McBush says that Obama is a "celebrity"
Grandpa McBush is flirting with Leiberman, Romney, Ridge, Pawlenty

After Obama's inspiring speech, Grandpa McBush is inspired to throw all previous choices to the trash and pick someone who not only has no experience, but was first runner-up in Ms. Alaska and had her own photo shoot in Vogue magazine.

Now who's the inexperienced celebrity?


We're all trying to point out the hypocrisy. As usual, it just doesn't dawn on the right-wing trolls. It's like the guy who works at the landfill. When you are gagging on the smell of rot, he doesn't seem affected. When you ask "How can you stand the smell?" he replies "What smell?". This is the right-wing, so mired in the rotting stench of hypocrisy that they don't even notice it anymore.

edit: I really need to spell-check first
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Mad_Dem_X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 01:51 PM
Response to Reply #77
110. Excellent post!
The hypocrisy is astounding.
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Mugweed Donating Member (939 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 02:10 PM
Response to Reply #110
131. Thank you kindly
It's tough to get a troll to stick around long enough to even refute/acknowledge the claim.
Poor devils, always on the move.

It's even harder to try to point hypocrisy out to a righty in person. It's like trying to describe the color blue to someone who has been blind from birth. In the land of the right-wing blind, the one-eyed man gets his eye poked out for being a non-conformist.
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 03:32 PM
Response to Reply #77
171. One more outburst like that and Obama's gonna lose the landfill worker vote.
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 03:33 PM
Response to Reply #77
173. Careful, Mugweed. One more outburst like that and Obama's liable to lose the landfill worker vote.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 03:45 PM
Response to Reply #77
178. The RW can't see her inexperience because they are too busy
Edited on Fri Aug-29-08 03:46 PM by kestrel91316
checkin' out her tits.

I say this as a WOMAN.
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marias23 Donating Member (256 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 01:48 PM
Response to Reply #1
104. Give McCaina Break He's a POW.
POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.
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TheCoxwain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 02:26 PM
Response to Reply #1
144. SHE DOESNT HAVE A FRIGGIN CLUE
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 03:07 PM
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 03:29 PM
Response to Reply #164
169. Experience at what--compared to her?
And tell me, when was Obama ever a Muslim?
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sushi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 04:19 PM
Response to Reply #169
184. Was his father a Muslim?
Children born to a Muslim man are automatically Muslims, because Muslims practice patriarchy. Later he was baptized by Jeremiah Wright in the Trinity Church. Am I wrong?
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 12:04 AM
Response to Reply #184
213. 1971 was quite a while ago. Got anything on him since then?
http://isbarackobamamuslim.com /

When I asked, I wasn't thinking about a 10-year-old kid. Cripes, I was a Catholic until I was 16, and I remember almost nothing about that church.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 03:47 PM
Response to Reply #164
179. Go read his bio on his website and wikipedia, if you CAN read.
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 11:15 AM
Response to Original message
2. Notice that NOBODY in either party questioned Joe Biden's ability to
serve as Commander in Chief if for some reason Barack Obama was unwilling or unable.

What a cynical and politically calculating move on the McCain campaign's behalf. Thinking about headlines and soundbites rather than serving this country.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 11:58 AM
Response to Reply #2
19. Everybody knows Biden and were reassured by his appointment.
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 01:06 PM
Response to Reply #19
60. My point exactly n/t
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 01:51 PM
Response to Reply #60
109. name recognition goes a long way in politics.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 12:49 PM
Response to Reply #2
45. Probably for the same reason that McCain isn't questioned on the issue.
Both Biden and McCain have a long history and are well-known, while Obama less so... and Palen almost entirely unknown.

Were you trying to make a point?
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 01:06 PM
Response to Reply #45
58. No, I was just typing random words that ended up being a sentence. n/t
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SpookyCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 01:19 PM
Response to Reply #58
72. LOL!
I get your point. This is a move of sheer unadulterated political desperation.

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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 01:54 PM
Response to Reply #58
113. Wow, what a coincidence. n/t
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 11:16 AM
Response to Original message
3. poorly worded
It assumes that McCain will be president. It should read:

"...a possible heartbeat away from the presidency..."

Or: "Today, John McCain undercut his argument for experience by putting a foreign policy novice a potential heartbeat away from his presidency."
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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 11:20 AM
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4. right on Obama, another Cheney in the white house
Governors ethics considered as husband goes back to work at BP
August 23, 2007


News that Governor Sarah Palins husband Todd is returning to his pre-election job on the North Slope has gotten some public attention in the last couple of days. But legislators are dismissing the possibility that the job presents a conflict of interest for the Governor.

* Read the State Attorney Generals opinion on Todd Palins BP employment (PDF)
http://aprn.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/ag-ethics-ad...

http://aprn.org/2007/08/23/governors-ethics-considered-... /


Two of the worlds biggest oil companies, BP and ConocoPhillips, joined forces Tuesday to try to break a longstanding deadlock over Alaskas vast reserves of natural gas. They said they would spend billions to build a pipeline from the North Slope to feed energy-hungry markets in the United States and Canada.

The proposal won praise from Alaskas governor, Sarah Palin. Its a good day, she told reporters in Alaska.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/09/business/worldbusines...
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 11:46 AM
Response to Reply #4
13. It's always about the OIL, isn't it? Wonder if that's part of choosing her? The Arctic Oil? n/t
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 12:54 PM
Response to Reply #13
49. Yes.
Part of her selection is likely an attempt to continue the "drill everywhere" campaign for energy independence.

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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 01:55 PM
Response to Reply #13
117. of course, it is always about the oil
but it shows me that mc cain has such a low opinion of women, just window dressing John, no Clinton supporter is going to vote for you because you picked a woman!! this is such a sham. Desperation too. Just window dressing they are a desperate bunch. Their convention will be a joke.
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Grinchie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 03:03 PM
Response to Reply #4
163. BP Oil Pipeline
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Frisbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 11:22 AM
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5. Great, quick reponse! eom
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LonelyLRLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 11:25 AM
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6. Concise and accurate summary of the choice.
Also a good reminder of McCane's age and health history.

BTW - WTF kind of choice for VP is this, anyhow?

(He's down to listing her PTA and point guard qualifications.)
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bobd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 11:38 AM
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9. Biggest blunder since McGovern chose Eagleton
Edited on Fri Aug-29-08 11:40 AM by bobd0
I had to walk away from the TV after the PTA line. This is just ridiculous.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 12:52 PM
Response to Reply #6
47. "(He's down to listing her PTA and point guard qualifications.)"
Chuckle! Yeah, that had me laughing. I was wondering if he was going to mention her being on the yearbook committee, too.
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 01:45 PM
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97. I hear she does scrapbooking. /nt
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 01:56 PM
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118. ha! nt
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secondwind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 02:56 PM
Response to Reply #97
158. I hear she likes mooseburgers!
I don't think they make those in DC....... LOL
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Outlier Donating Member (98 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 01:37 PM
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92. exactly,
I couldn't believe he got in to the minutae of personal bio. who cares.
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 11:36 AM
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8. Help me out here. Obama is weak on foreign policy, so.....
McCain selects a VP with absolutely NO foreign policy experience. What am I missing?
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Kingofalldems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 11:43 AM
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10. Doocy on Fox said Alaska is close to Russia
so therefore Palin has lots of foreign policy experience.
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Curtland1015 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 11:46 AM
Response to Reply #10
12. Oh. My. God.
Did they really say that? WOW. Hey, New York is kinda close to the Ocean, that means I'm a merman!
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Retrograde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 12:16 PM
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28. even better than that
NYS butts up against Canada - you're a veritable expert on all things foreign!
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SpookyCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 01:27 PM
Response to Reply #10
81. Shut. Up.
Please be kidding...he didn't actually say that did he? Without irony?

<sigh>

What did the Brown Haired Guy who isn't Steve Doocy say?

:rofl:
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Kingofalldems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 02:34 PM
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149. Yes he did
TPM has it I think. Doesn't surprise me. I bet the viewers didn't even recognize the stupidity of that statement.
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SpookyCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 04:38 PM
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193. Ai ya!
"I bet the viewers didn't even recognize the stupidity of that statement."


I think you're right, and that's one of the saddest things I've heard all day.

Some of the things that come out of people I know, people who can dress themselves and are otherwise intelligent, just amazes me. It's this authority thing, "well, I heard it on t.v. or read it in the paper or so and so told me so I believe it!"

Then I have to spend day after day convincing them it isn't true, if it's possible to do so. Something like this, well, what can you do besides try to teach mini critical thinking classes? <tired...>

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Outlier Donating Member (98 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 02:14 PM
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133. Doocy may be on to something important...
I'm sure Russia is still pissed they sold it to us for 2 cents an acre.



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dddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 02:59 PM
Response to Reply #10
159. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
sorry for the outburst. You're funny.
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George II Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 12:02 PM
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23. She has no ANYTHING experience!
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Athletic Grrl Donating Member (551 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 06:21 PM
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200. She does have experience.
In childbirth. Who's taking care of that poor Down Syndrome baby?

McLame has played his card and it's far-right. Thanks for ensuring Hillary's "18 million chinks in the wall" or whatever Palin said today will vote for Barack. No way those older uber-feminists and Union employees who voted for Hillary will tolerate this wingnut.
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George II Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 07:32 PM
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206. The conspiracy theories are that she's not the mother, so maybe the real mother will care for it?
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DrZeeLit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 12:10 PM
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27. Stunt. She's got a vagina. McDim thinks that'll do it for us women. Right.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 01:20 PM
Response to Reply #27
74. Sadly, apparently that's part of Gov. Palen's approach, as well.
Edited on Fri Aug-29-08 01:21 PM by krkaufman
In her first speech, she offered her gender as a reason to vote for the Republican ticket ("to break through the glass ceiling")

I missed Obama's comments in his acceptance speech last night, imploring voters to elect our first black President.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 02:04 PM
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126. I find it this choice so insulting.
Edited on Fri Aug-29-08 02:05 PM by alyce douglas
I really hope this backfires. But again the media will play this BS up. Hopefully the American people won't bite.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 12:56 PM
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52. McCain thinks that issue won't be the deciding factor ...
... and so are trying to rebrand the campaign as reform-minded... as well as going for the gender vote.
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erpowers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 11:49 AM
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14. McCain Has the Experience
I am not a fan of McCain and will not vote for him, but he can argue that he has the foreign policy experience. In addition, he could ask how much foreign policy experience did Bill Clinton have when he ran for president. I know McCain has called Obama out on his lack of experience, but he also could make the argument that many supporter of Obama have made in defense of Obama picking Biden as the Vice Presidential pick; Obama is running for president, Palin is running for Vice President.

I guess everybody should start talking about the fact that the last time there was a Republican running for high office that claimed they were both a staunch conservative and willing to reach across party lines things changed once they finally got to Washington. George Bush sure lost his taste for bipartisanship after he was elected/selected for President. It is very possible Palin will do the same if she become Vice President.
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Lautremont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 11:58 AM
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18. Palin is indeed running for vice-president, not president,
but the guy actually running for president is old and damaged enough that (the case could be made) she might as well be.
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George II Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 12:03 PM
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24. Check out his age and what he's been through over the years....
...she's just half a beat away from the Presidency!
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FredStembottom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 11:53 AM
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15. self-delete. Wrong thread.
Edited on Fri Aug-29-08 12:07 PM by FredStembottom
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Dead Elephant Donating Member (68 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 11:55 AM
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16. McCain picked a joke candidate
This makes him scarier then ever

Stop the Drama Vote Obama

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3302...
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SissyBoy Donating Member (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 01:21 PM
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76. MCain is a joke
Bush is a joke.
Repukes are jokes.
What dod you expect from these chumps? Samity? Nope.

Biden will rip her lungs out in the debate. You watch. She has absolutely no experience. None. McCain is a fool.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 11:57 AM
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17. Gov Palin = Everybody else turned down the job
He chose her because she was available and she accepted. Everybody else: Mittens, Pawlenty, etc turned him down because they know their chances this year are nil.
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 01:45 PM
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98. If you watch the end of this video she even says it is really unlikely
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 02:07 PM
Response to Reply #17
129. desperate choice by a desperate man
but Rove has some play in this. Inexperience and incompetence is their MO.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 12:00 PM
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21. McCain's choice is in the petro-linked tradition of the Bush administration
Clearly another example of the GOP planning 4 more years that look just like the past 8.
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 12:01 PM
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22. Here's another qualification for CIC - she's a former sports reporter
TVNewser commenter NotsoAnonymous reminds us that VP candidate Gov. Sarah Palin is a former TV reporter. After receiving a journalism degree from the University of Idaho, Palin worked briefly as a sports reporter for TV stations in Anchorage.

And, like some other TVNewsers, she's also a former beauty queen. Palin was Miss Wasilla 1984 and a runner-up in the Miss Alaska pageant that year.

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser /

:rofl:
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 12:45 PM
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43. If Palin accepts this nomination it will prove she has as poor
judgment as McCain does. A person with half a brain would realize her qualifications for VP are sorely lacking and would feel she would not be working in the country's best interest to accept such a huge undertaking.
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DrZeeLit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 01:31 PM
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84. Did you see where she said (about a month ago) that she doesn't know what the VP does?
It's posted in the threads.
I was floored.

Can you see her running the Senate?

You're right.
She should say she's flattered, then back away from the podium, slowly, while smiling.
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 01:48 PM
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103. I never thought of that.
What makes her think she could be president? Or are Republicans simply impervious to self-doubt?
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liberalcanuck Donating Member (339 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 03:20 PM
Response to Reply #22
167. Freakin' hilarious - former Miss Wasilla and a runner-up in the Miss Alaska pageant!!
The only thing better than this would have been McBush picking Losermann.

The Daily Show will be all over this.
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StatGirl Donating Member (263 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 03:40 PM
Response to Reply #22
175. So she's the Dana Perino of VP candidates!
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kegler14 Donating Member (541 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 12:06 PM
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25. Can we say hypocrisy???
The conservatives who seem to be praising this choice are the same ones who think women should stay home and take care of the children.
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happyslug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 12:24 PM
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30. So, all she is is a Hillary substitute.
Remember the GOP policy, divide and Conquer. The GOP has seen the massive support for Hillary among Democrats (She did come to a close second to Obama in total votes casted in the Primary). The GOP is hoping by picking a woman, any woman, to get some of those votes for the GOP instead of Obama. This would have been less effective had Obama picked Hillary instead of Biden, but if Obama had picked Hillary, the GOP would have picked someone else to split some minority from the Democratic Vote column.

Please note, this is NOT an attack on Obama or Hillary, just that this woman would NOT have been picked had Obama picked Hillary as his VP. The sole reason she was picked is to divide up the Democratic Vote and nothing more.

Second Note: Notice I did NOT mention the GOP candidates name in this thread. The reason for this is based on a comment FDR told his speech writers in the 1936 elections. FDR said that some people go into the voting booth NOT knowing who they are going to vote for and end up voting for the name they have heard the most, thus NEVER mention the GOP candidate by name. Call him the GOP candidate, the Republican nominee or anything else BUT NEVER HIS NAME. I policy I suggest we all adopt.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 02:12 PM
Response to Reply #30
132. The Democratic Hillary voters will vote Democratic.
THIS is a bid for the independent Hillary supporters. Remember, the Republicans need to pick up 30 million independents.

And I like what you said about names.
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happyslug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 02:51 PM
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155. I forgot to mention the rest of FDR observation
Basically is the GOP would mention his name over and over again, because the GOP hated FDR that much. FDR was counting of that use of his name, and was one of the reasons for his overwhelming victory that year. In 1940 the GOP learned they lesson, they picked a ex-New Dealer as their Candidate. He did better then the right wing Politician the GOP picked in 1936, but also in 1940 the GOP stopped mentioning FDR's name in every ad.
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Boudica the Lyoness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 03:32 PM
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172. self delete
Edited on Fri Aug-29-08 03:35 PM by English Lady
whoops I'm really pissed off today
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Politicalboi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 12:20 PM
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29. Hey she was
A PTA member too.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 12:56 PM
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 01:02 PM
Original message
Your concern is noted
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 01:21 PM
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75. Thanks for your input,
troll.
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Mugweed Donating Member (939 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 01:32 PM
Response to Reply #51
88. Ha ha ha ha ha
I'm currently searching for the ass I just laughed off.
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SissyBoy Donating Member (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 01:35 PM
Original message
You Sound Like A Republican
This is a Democrat board.

I think the experience angle will work on Palin and not Obama. Obama has earned his place. Palin has. She was chosen.

Obama has shown leadership on Iraq. He was the only that was right.
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SissyBoy Donating Member (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 01:47 PM
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102. WHY WAS THIS DELETED?
I am a newbie. I didn't like this guy's post. But why was it deleted?
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Mugweed Donating Member (939 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 02:16 PM
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135. the rules
it violated a basic tenet of this message board
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Ernest Partridge Donating Member (66 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 12:26 PM
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31. Worst choice since Caligula appointed his horse.
The VP debate will be rout!

Little League vs. the NY Yankees.

Can't wait to see it.
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 01:11 PM
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66. LOL now that's a DUZY
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hasssan1 Donating Member (439 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 12:27 PM
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32. LOL , LETS ELECT HER BECAUSE SHE HAS A GREAT EXPERIENCE IN PTA ?????
Edited on Fri Aug-29-08 12:29 PM by hasssan1
WTF IS HAPPENING HERE :puke: ???????


YOU MUST BE DUMBER THAN TALIBAN'S SOLDIERS TO VOTE FOR THESE TO CLOWN ( MCLAME AND USED TO BE PRETTY PTA NEOCON :silly: )
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marshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 12:29 PM
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33. And she may be suffering from post partum depression
After giving birth to a baby with down syndrome.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 12:32 PM
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36. I don't think so.
She's been in pretty good spirits, as far as I've seen.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 12:35 PM
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 01:03 PM
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55. Yes, but the baby is too young to get effective sympathy photo ops
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hasssan1 Donating Member (439 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 01:10 PM
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64. THEY DO ANYTHING AND SAY ANYTHING TO WIN
DO NOT FORGET WHO YOU ARE FIGHTING WITH. THEY ARE ( GOP) THE LOWEST AND DIRTIEST POLITICAL PARTY IN MODERN WORLD. THEY DO ANYTHING AND SAY ANYTHING TO WIN , JUST LIKE MCINSANE

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Tektonik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 01:15 PM
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70. caps lock is not cruise control for cool
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 01:32 PM
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Outlier Donating Member (98 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 01:43 PM
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95. i agree
Part of the pick is sympathy for the baby, no doubt. And don't be surprised if she sheds a tear at sometime during the campaign. Hmmmm when she possibly do that, oh I don't know , how about when she goes on OPRAH.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 02:07 PM
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 01:07 PM
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61. That is just an awful thing to say n/t
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 12:33 PM
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38. after learning a bit about her,
i'm having a hard time understanding how she could accept the nomination. she has a 4 month old baby with downs syndrome. plus four other kids. there's only 24 hours in a day.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 01:52 PM
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112. Well, Obama has 2 kids, so that's not the strongest argument.
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downindixie Donating Member (321 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 04:36 PM
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191. Yeah,but Obama's wife and children
will be living with him at the WH.Will her husband leave his job with big oil and move his children to D.C.?
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FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 01:54 PM
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116. I just heard that tidbit too...
Edited on Fri Aug-29-08 01:55 PM by Journalgrrl
I'm single mom of three and just the IDEA of doing something extracirricular winds me! I have a daughter that was diagnosed with a birth defect at age 4 and the past 2 years have been very hard - having to constantly take her for testing, etc...

How on earth does this woman think she will do this...? nannies, and other 'helpers' I bet.

sure wish I was rich enough to have that kind of help, then maybe I could be successful enough in business to afford to buy my own house, and maybe even be considered a good ;'catch' by some nice man :sarcasm:

I don't want to bash this gal because I don't know ANYTHING about her...but as a mom, I am seriously concerned at her ability to take on the grueling tasks of campaigning and such a high stress job as VP when she still has an infant (much less, one who has a disability) ...? not a good example if you ask me.
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 02:23 PM
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141. that's how i'm feeling
and i swear i'm not sexist, but i am a mother. all of my four children were still breastfeeding at four months. her "issue" apparently is right to life, but don't children have a right to be parented as well? AND her baby has special needs. i just don't get it.
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Psephos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 07:26 PM
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205. Translation: a woman can't juggle family and career simultaneously
Mush it up all you want, that's what you're saying.

We have better ammo than that. Way better.
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 12:21 AM
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214. She hardly is part of your "average" family, though
5 kids, including one that's just past newborn, and with disabilities to boot.

I would never cast aspersions on a mother who would have to abandon her job under such circumstances. In fact, it's quite reasonable to assume she would, unless either the husband gave up his own job, or they had a lot of outside help.
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 03:18 AM
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215. i wasn't offering it up as a talking point.
as a mother of four i cannot imagine leaving an infant for the amount of hours a presidential campaign would demand.

anyway the more i read the more i think that baby is actually her grandson.
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newtothegame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 12:44 PM
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41. I'm torn
and don't want to be flamed as a concern troll, but I'm not sure about this pick yet. On the one hand, Old Man McSame has made this all too easy for us, picking an inexperienced governor with serious ethics issues who is one-step away from the Presidency. No foreign policy experience whatsoever.

On the other hand, I question how easy it is going to be to push the "change" mantra when the neocons VP pick is a female governor from the state farthest away from Washington and our pick is a white male who's been in the senate for decades. We need to push this ethics investigation HARD!!!

GoBama!
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 01:05 PM
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57. Why push the ethics investigation? n/c
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newtothegame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 01:12 PM
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67. Why not?
Just more proof that the McSame ticket brings more of the same corruption, greed, and cronyism.
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 01:31 PM
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85. Reasigning a person who refused to fire
a state trooper who was allegedly beating up her sister is greed/corruption/cronyism?
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 01:46 PM
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100. I don't think that's exactly how it happened
here's an editorial from the Anchorage Daily news.

http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/ap_alaska/story/507433.h...

Why is Gov. Sarah Palin's aide Frank Bailey still collecting a state paycheck?

A recorded phone call proves that Bailey used his official position to try to get the Alaska troopers to fire officer Mike Wooten. Bailey made it clear he was acting on the governor's concerns about trooper Wooten, who happens to be her estranged former brother-in-law. Wooten was suspended but not fired for what his supervisor determined was "a significant pattern of judgment failures" and "a course of conduct totally at odds with the ethics of our profession."...

There's no reason for Gov. Palin to pussyfoot around with Bailey's case. This is not one of those state personnel matters where you have to move heaven and earth to sack the offending employee. Bailey, a former campaign aide, is a political appointee and can be fired at will....

So Gov. Palin's ethically compromised aide Frank Bailey gets to stay on the state payroll, despite doing dirty work on the governor's behalf, but she gives the hook to the ethically upright public safety commissioner who refused to do Bailey's bidding.


And it concludes:

What kind of message does that send to Alaskans?

We can now ask: What kind of message does that send to Americans?

Does Team McCombover have any vetting process at all? :eyes: Or do they not realize that Alaska has newspapers and TV stations and stuff? (or in McCombover's case, that it even attained statehood)

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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 03:00 PM
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161. So why do WE have to PUSH this issue? Which is what the poster insisted we do.
It seems the media is pushing it just fine w/out our help.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 03:31 PM
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170. The *Alaskan* media has been. Predictably, the M$M has not.
instead coyly referring to "an ongoing investigation" and whatnot. :eyes:
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windbreeze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 02:17 PM
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136. tricky situation
I don't think it was just any state trooper...I think he was her sister's husband...I don't believe she had the right to insist anyone fire him...if she had been a person on the street, could she have influenced such a thing..??? no...so that means, she WAS using her power as Governor to influence firing/reassigning of other state personnel, and it was being done in order to personally benefit a family member...so what would they call that??? corruption?? wb
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 02:59 PM
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160. Actually I'd call it abuse of power
which I believe is what she is being investigated for. And I'm certain that the media will make hay of it..which is why we don't need to.
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windbreeze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 06:51 PM
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201. ok...I can go with abuse of power...
Edited on Fri Aug-29-08 06:57 PM by windbreeze
As far as I can tell, the media gives McCain a free pass, letting him skate on everything, meanwhile they hold Obama's feet to the fire for every little thing...so now we're going to trust the media to make hay of this story??..well ok then, I know I sure trust them to bring it up..so just why DO we Democrats have to keep backing off??...what's the reason this time??? Are you from Alaska? Is she YOUR governor?? NO? then what's the reason you don't want this discussed or brought up?? I am curious, really...wb
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skepticscott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 01:01 PM
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53. In hindsight, it's not that surprising a choice
Look at the things that McCain desperately needed: Someone younger (preferably younger than 50), someone who is not a Washington insider (so governor, rather than senator), someone who is pro-life and at least a moderately conservative Christian, and (if possible) a woman. Given those things, how many choices did he have? The fact that he was left with this option speaks to the paucity of choices in an intellectually and morally bankrupt Republican party.

But in the end, all she brings to the ticket is the possibility of siphoning off some still-disgruntled Clinton supporters who are still bound and determined to see a woman elected (most of whom will hopefully come to their senses after two more months of campaigning). Anyone for whom Palin is an ideological soulmate wasn't going to vote for Obama anyway.


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newtothegame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 01:06 PM
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59. well said
and agreed.
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 01:08 PM
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62. Thank you! n/t
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zeemike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 03:11 PM
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166. And if she can't siphon off Hillery voters
Then they can use it as a reason why Mc Same goes up in the pools.
He got the woman vote.
And surprise suprise...another 4 years of re pukes running things.
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 01:02 PM
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54. McPain will sink...no one else wanted to sign on to the Titanic
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d_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 01:04 PM
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56. i like how they said 9000
when its really more like 6000 lol.
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 01:54 PM
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115. It seems to be growing by leaps and bounds.
Population (year 2000): 5,469.
Estimated population in July 2006: 9,236 (+68.9% change)

Info from this site. Check out the pictures, it looks pretty cool. No wonder people are moving there!
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d_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 04:21 PM
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187. its a beautiful place
the people can be...meh. Sometimes I'll take a drive out there just for the scenery.
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 04:35 PM
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190. So it's a great place to visit, but....?
I'd love to do some photography there!
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Old Time Pagan Donating Member (157 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 01:08 PM
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63. She hunts wolves from helicopters
how sick is that? They run down wolves with a helicopter and when they finally collapse from exhaustion the mighty hunters blast them with high powered rifles. She's a perfect successor to Cheney.

I've hunted since I was a kid. The hunters I respect look at the freaks that kill deer and bear using ATVs and pickups as pond scum. She's less evolved than that. YUCK!!!!

But hey hubbie's a WORLD CLASS snowmobile racer, that ought to get the NASCAR vote.
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Sbattle Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 01:14 PM
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68. Beauty Queens for McCain!!!!
Mr. McCain seems to have a penchant for beauty pageant queens; Cindy McCain , new campaign office hire Zais ; VP mate Sarah Palin .

McCain doesn't care about promoting women for substantial reasons. He is only interested in how they look first and in any experience they may have later. She is being used as a gimmick! As a woman that is infuriating!

Go Obama!

SB
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gorfle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 01:19 PM
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73. The People are desperate for change.
What this shows is that even the GOP is acknowledging a serious issue this election: The People are desperate for change. Obama's success has been a HUGE shake-up to the status-quo of our political system. Even if he is not elected president, and I certainly hope he is, it's obvious that he has changed the face of politics.

McCain is working furiously to portray himself as a maverick - as someone who also will bring change. His VP choice reflects this image he is trying to project.

I loved Obama's remark though: McCain voted with Bush 90% of the time. Are you willing to bet on only a 10% chance for change? Hahahahahaha

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Mugweed Donating Member (939 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 02:22 PM
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139. Oh brother...
Does it actually need to be spelled out for you?

Two choices, dumb or troll. Take your pick.
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CitizenPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 01:25 PM
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79. GOP Governor Barbie
Does the GOP really think a beauty queen who supports aerial hunting and is married to an Oil Exec will get the "Hillary" vote? They are so out of touch with real people.

Palin isn't progress, she's pandering.

She's only had 1.5 years of experience, so they better hope mccain's skin cancer doesn't get any worse or we'll be being led by Governor Barbie.

Sure, she's corrupt enough and in bed with oil enough to be on the ticket, but is she a replacement for Hillary? Ha ha. No, seriously. they think this. A anti-choice, gun-loving, trophy wife scandal-ridden, oil company (what do you call someone who is literally having sex with the oil company?) propagandist.

She is no Hillary.

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RedSpartan Donating Member (736 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 01:28 PM
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82. Totally off topic and irrelevant
But doesn't she kind of look like Mariska Hargitay?



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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 01:43 PM
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94. Tina Fey
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RedSpartan Donating Member (736 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 01:52 PM
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111. Hmmmm
I see that. Got to find a pic of Hargitay in glasses...
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downindixie Donating Member (321 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 04:53 PM
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196. Please don't insult Mariska that way.
She's the reason I watch law & order!
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Mugweed Donating Member (939 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 01:46 PM
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99. self delete
Edited on Fri Aug-29-08 01:47 PM by Mugweed
replying to a repetition already noted.
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CitizenPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 01:50 PM
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107. dude
Edited on Fri Aug-29-08 01:51 PM by CitizenPatriot
don't worry, this isn't an issue.

george III's judgment is seriously flawed. This pick is sadly a desperate attempt to seem progressive, but it is simply more of the same -- pandering to progressives, to women, as if we don't know the difference.

Unlike his supporters, we actually read. We are informed. We can't be fooled by sound bites for morans part I, II, and now III.

They'll sell this to their base-- but then, independent studies have shown their base to be the most MIS-informed people in the country. How sad is that? Just think, while they still have access to the interwebs, none of them use factcheck.org or snopes to verify the facts. the repeat like good little followers every word they hear on fox and their other hates shows.

but we must remember to be tolerant of them -- and show them the love and understanding they can't and won't show us. Just because it's OK for them to hate doesn't mean it's OK for us.

jesus wouldn't support hate. While they claim to be Christians, they are being sadly misguided as to what it means to LIVE like a Christian.

Obama wouldn't want us to be nasty to them like they are to us -- remember how classy he was last night. He would never stoop to ad hominem attacks. One day, we'll have politics where the other side debates the issues again, instead of desperate lies and attacks which only make them look bad. For now, we have to comfort ourselves with what is and try to be compassionate.

Cheers.
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marias23 Donating Member (256 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 01:46 PM
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101. Give McCain a break he's a POW
Just in case you didn't know. POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.POW.
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CGrantt57 Donating Member (245 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 01:50 PM
Response to Reply #101
108. Arrrrgggghhhhh.....
Ya got me, Tex...

::::::cough...cough:::::::

Tell Old Yeller to let Big Blue in....

Tell mama I tried to be good....

:::::::hack....hack::::::::

It's gettin' dark...
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CGrantt57 Donating Member (245 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 01:48 PM
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105. Snark Alert!
I gotta ask...

She's young; she's pretty...

Is she his running mate, or his next wife?

Just asking.... :shrug:

Regards
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svpadgham Donating Member (374 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 05:08 PM
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197. HAHAHAHAHAHA!
Do you think Cindy might be a bit peeved about his choice? Maybe McSuck can get his VP choice to enter Miss Buffalo Chip. She's good at beauty pageants.
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northernlights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 01:49 PM
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106. isn't she under criminial investigation
for corruption?!?!

Perfect...just perfect! :rofl:

Not to mention that she'll make him look one hell of a lot more pasty and wrinkling than he already is BWAHAHAHHAHAH!!!!!!!! Criminies, if he visits her in Alaska, might he not just get totally lost in the landscape?
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 01:57 PM
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119. I hope the authorities will come up with something on her.
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Myrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 02:02 PM
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124. ... not to mention how OLD he looks standing next to her ..
... even more like the dirty old man he is than ever before!!


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ScottytheRadical Donating Member (68 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 02:03 PM
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125. I know commenting on someone's looks is usually irrevelant, but...
Does anyone else thinks she's got crazy eyes? I was watching the press conference, and they just struck me as odd. Also, I keep picturing her pressing a red button to nuke Russia after McCain kills over halfway through his first year. Small town wholesome conservatives tend to be very gung-ho about that sort of thing :P.
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liberalaska Donating Member (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 01:54 PM
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114. Palin is the Prom Queen
The only presidency she is qualified for is that of her high school class.

But at least if they win we might be able to get a somewhat qualified governor up here.
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Myrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 01:58 PM
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120. Blatant, insulting tokenism:
Well now at least McCain and Lieberman won't be the only set of boobs on the GOP circuit.

(Can't believe I said that!)


Seriously, the choice of Palin is blatant tokenism and reflects the GOP's lack of judgement, lack of ideas, and 100% reactionary stance -- they honestly think that voters who supported Hillary only did so because she was female, and not because of her platform?
PUHLEEZE. Don't insult my intelligence and the intelligence of thousands of other voters by foisting a totally unqualified candidate on us and expect us to run to your side of the ship "just 'cause she's a girl".

:puke:




Now I'm even MORE anxious to cast my vote for Obama/Biden than I was last night!!!

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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 01:58 PM
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121. I don't like this line at all...
"Today, John McCain put the former mayor of a town of 9,000 with zero foreign policy experience a heartbeat away from the presidency. "

First, during the convention, we heard a lot about Obama's "humble" beginnings. I heard quite a bit that Obama IS the American dream, and proof that you can rise to the top no matter where you come from. IMHO, it seems a little hypocritical criticizing Palin's old job as proof of her inexperience. Are they implying that someone being a small town mayor is a strike against them? That they shouldn't be able to rise to the highest levels of government? I don't think that's what they're intending to say, but the repukes can absolutely spin it that way, and it will resonate with some voters.

Second, yes Palin has no real foreign policy experience, but lets be honest, while Obama has more experience then her, he has a lot less than we would normally like from a presidential candidate. That was a big reason for picking Biden. If the Dems were to run a commercial "do you want a former mayor of a town of 9,000 with zero foreign policy experience a heartbeat away from the presidency." The repukes would return with a commercial "do you want a former community organizer with zero foreign policy experience as president." They'll use the criticism of Palin to highlight Obama's own inexperience.

It's about policy, not people. It doesn't matter what Palin or McCain did for the last 2, 4 or 40 years. She and her new boss are on the wrong side of too many issues to vote for them.

Just my 2 cents, anyway.
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 02:24 PM
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142. While it would be the American Dream to become a doctor...
.. ya can't do it by working as a bookkeeper in a doctor's office. The office of the Presidency is not ceremonial, and it is NOT something that someone with no exposure to foreign policy should have. Obama has worked on issues of national security, a mayor of a tiny town in one of the smallest states in America, does not qualify you to do that job -- no matter how much people want to talk about the American dream.

A person that does not even KNOW what a VP does is not qualified to become President. Had she been a US Senator or Congress, or even the mayor of a major city, I would have different feelings about this. But c'mon... a part-time mayor of a tiny town in Alaska?? No. Not an ounce of proof that she is anything but an NRA, Prolife, pro-oil, tool who has no business being next in line for President. What a freakin' slap in the face to QUALIFIED women everywhere!
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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 02:28 PM
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146. If tiny town mayor was her current job, I'd agree
but she's not the mayor of a small town, she's the governor of a state. Why would being a mayor, Senator or Congressperson make you think different, but not governor?

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Mugweed Donating Member (939 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 02:29 PM
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147. I think that the idea is this...
To point out that Grandpa McBush used Obama's "lack of experience" as a reason he shouldn't be President, then turned around and chose someone even less experienced to run with him and be one step away from the Presidency.

It's not hypocritical to point out hypocrisy.
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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 02:35 PM
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150. The repukes will see it the same way...
The truth is, while the VP's have just been announced, they are not the people that are going to be getting the most press. People vote for the top of the ticket. McLame's people would be thrilled if they can go the next few months saying "Sure our VP doesn't have much experience, but neither does their presidential candidate".
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Dead Elephant Donating Member (68 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 01:59 PM
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122. Palin is stunt casting 101
Obama's speech was monumental. The Republicans picking Palin has everyone talking about her and not the true history making moment from last night.


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3302...
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 02:08 PM
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130. Palin is just infotainment.
Obama was reality based.
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RedSpartan Donating Member (736 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 02:01 PM
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123. I doubt the Repub Vetting Machine would have missed this, but...
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skyounkin Donating Member (722 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 02:16 PM
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134. Eh, who is going to challenge it?
Really- instead of making the 16 year old get an abortion, she has the baby and mom "adopts" him. The pro-lifer fundies will go nuts with her choosing to care for the child over abortion.
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RedSpartan Donating Member (736 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 02:20 PM
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138. Oh, I agree.
If true - - and really, who knows and who cares? - - it would probably actually play out as a positive. And anyone who digs and discovers it's true would be viewed as a scumbag for digging into something so personal. It's really untouchable.
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CitizenPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 02:41 PM
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153. morally it is ugly to go there
Edited on Fri Aug-29-08 02:41 PM by CitizenPatriot
but the truth of the matter is that anyone running for pres/vp expects to be vetted and under the constitution, they must be transparent and accountable. they are not supposed to lie to us.

why lie? it's unnecessary and unfortunately, as a public official, there are some rights to privacy they no longer have. That was their choice. Remember, Clinton's blow job was our business because he lied about it.

Her daughter's baby is our business if she is lying about it.

I'm sorry to sound so harsh -- I don't mean to come off that way, but I am tired of politicians lying to the people and saying it was private later. Lying is not acceptable and we shouldn't tolerate it. We don't tolerate it from our presidents (well, ok, our democratic presidents), but we will tolerate it -- nay, expect it, from the republicans and not even blink an eye?

john edward's affair is our business, but palin's false pregnancy isn't?

Not getting why one and not the other. transparent and accountable.

and no, it's not ok to lie and say your daughter's baby is yours. there are reasons why this is not ok, morally and health-related. why the lie? It was a choice her daughter made to keep the baby. Good for her. Move on. But be honest.

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CashGap Donating Member (53 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 03:37 PM
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174. SO??????
It is time to decide if we are in this to "play fair" or win.

It's her baby... but until that is PROVEN (and could DNA testing even prove it), we need to HAMMER this so that by the time some test result comes out, every voter in America thinks she lied about it. The test results? Last month's news.

Did the Repukes wait for "proof" before slandering Edwards with the affair charges? (And it WAS slander if they didn't know it to be true at the time). The fact that he had actually had the affair and had lied about it during the campaign is IRRELEVANT... they didn't KNOW he was lying at the time they accused him of it.

If we want to be the party that stands for truth, get used to losing. If we want to WIN, we hit the "Daughter's Baby" issue everyday up to and including the day we are proven wrong. Then on to something else.

I have a great debate line for Biden... he can tell her she's obviously not committed to political life, what with having five children.

Hopefully she'll stupidly take the bait and say "Senator Biden, Speaker Pelosi has five children, do you think she's committed to political life?".

Then he can move in for the kill... "Governor, I worked with Nancy Pelosi, Nancy Pelosi is a friend of mine, and Governor... you are no Nancy Pelosi!!!".

It worked for Bentson, and would be a striking parallel back to that election.

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CitizenPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 04:10 PM
Response to Reply #174
182. me likes the way your mind works! :-) nt
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Sadie4629 Donating Member (919 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-08 07:36 AM
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216. Um . . .
Pelosi's approval ratings are abyssmal, you know. Sarah Palin has an 84% approval rating in the state that knows her best.

You better hope Biden avoids that line like the plague, because it could lose the election right then and there.
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humbled_opinion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 02:36 PM
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151. What its as nuts as her!
She should have aborted the tissue and moved forward with her life... Stupid is as stupid does.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 02:18 PM
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137. McCain's Phalin
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PleadTheFirst Donating Member (451 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 02:23 PM
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140. Biden is going to eat her alive!
Hit fast, hit hard. Give her hell, Joe!
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LondonReign2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 02:28 PM
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145. Sarah Quaylin
Can she spell potato?
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Mugweed Donating Member (939 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 02:34 PM
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148. her nickname
Why was her nickname "baracuda"? They could have at least gone for Sarahcuda. Man how lame. I bet nobody called her that except herself.
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wizstars Donating Member (792 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 02:43 PM
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154. I have T-shirts with more political experience than she has.
A bone thrown to the right-wing nutso fundies, she is McCain's insurance policy against assassination, as Dan Quayl(e) was for daddy bush. Another GOP embarrassment--Sarah Palin: the best the Repubs could get.
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Sadie5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 02:52 PM
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156. Puma loves it
They are wild with delight over at the PUMA board. YEA!!
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geraldatwork Donating Member (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 03:03 PM
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162. McCain's Age Now a Major Issue
McCain just made his age a major campaign issue. Why would anyone feel comfortable with a potential vice president without a second of national political experience, let alone international who would be a heart beat away from the Presidency where the President would be the oldest person elected, and therefore most likely to die in office.
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marmalito Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 05:44 PM
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198. we have to take a view from the higher ground...
Edited on Fri Aug-29-08 05:48 PM by marmalito
As absurd as Mr. McCain's choice may seem, the addition of Mrs. Sarah Palin to the ticket may yet turn out to be a brilliant maneuver. If you are concerned about the possibility of a McCain presidency, as I'm sure we all rightly are, we must prepare against all potential avenues of attack that Mrs. Palin's presence makes available to the republicans. Um, NOW. Their minions are already on the offensive across the news channels stealing Obama's thunder.

Sure, they are bound to employ only shallow, irrational, and baseless strategies, but enough of these one after another, or just one more well-timed maneuver that blind-sides the Obama campaign, and it could be disastrous at this late point.

In all probability, Mrs. Palin will be a very dangerous contender these last few months before the election. The reasons should be obvious to anyone with a modicum of understanding. I'll list a few that may be slightly less obvious:

-After 18 million more references to the cracks in the glass ceiling, she will inspire Hillary supporters who are currently drawn to McCain, despite the fact that she is the Anti-Hillary Clinton. These brainiacs have already exhibited their diminished powers of discrimination. Substance is meaningless to them, and unless we beat them over the head with something of substance, it will be meaningless for all Americans come November 5th. (and many Clinton haters will LOVE her for this coup, out of spite. This will equal re-"newed"? enthusiasm for McCain from die-hards)

-She's a feminine feminist. The political strength of her physical appearance is obvious, but can only take her so far, right? WRONG! DO NOT underestimate the shallow, primal instincts of our well-conditioned consumerist public. This is HUGE. Obama, cue Scarlett Johansson??

-She appears to be a decent, bright, eloquent person (Ah dunno wut she sed, but darn if she ain't purty sayin' it! An' her husband todd rides a ski-mobile! That's like a snow tractor -- she's one of us!)

-A totally unexpected, game-changing, fresh-faced, history-making figure introduced at the last minute. The sheer news-worthiness of Mrs. Palin's new-ness may not die down before November.

-If she is not eviscerated immediately by the Democrats in a substantive fashion (brother-in-law scandal?), she may become an invincible shield for McCain. (McCain pre-Palin: "Hey!! I can say anything, I was a POW damn it!" / McCain post-Palin: "Oh, Sarah... Stop calling me a hero, you're making me blush." Palin: "But you are! Yes, John McCain - I don't care what any of those nasty democrats say, you're my Hero! No, you are OUR Hero! You DESERVE it for what you did for the American people!"
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williesgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 03:27 PM
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168. As a long-time feminist, I find this insulting. They think we women will vote for anyone as long as
the person is female? How degrading! We have brains, care about the issues, are INFORMED, etc. This should sink McSame with all women who really care about choice, the Supreme Court, and how women are perceived as the result of being led nationally by one of us. To have just anyone doesn't work!
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rtwillia Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 03:56 PM
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180. Absurd
How absurd? I completely agree with others who are pointing out the blatant insult in all of this: Picking a female because she is female! However, I must say that most people don't spend enough time getting to know voting records, policy proposals etc. It will be grossly degenerative to the Women's movement to elect this pairing.
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NoodleyAppendage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 04:38 PM
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192. PUMAs is evidence of having "brains" ??? n/t
J
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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 03:43 PM
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176. This is going to be the biggest back-fire in history. McCain thinks
women will vote for the ticket because there's a woman on his? How did that work out for Geraldine Ferraro? Anybody remember?
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CashGap Donating Member (53 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 04:08 PM
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181. We could ask her...
"women will vote for the ticket because there's a woman on his? How did that work out for Geraldine Ferraro? Anybody remember?"

We could ask her but I think she's been banned here for "thoughts unbecoming"...


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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 04:23 PM
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188. Obama needs a new campaign spokesman...
...if that tepid response is the best that Bill Burton can muster.

Never bring a dull knife to a gunfight.
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Doug.Goodall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 04:33 PM
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189. Palin is associated with oil producers. That's all one needs to know .
Republicans, especially Republicans working for the oil companies, are poison
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santamargarita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 04:48 PM
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195. Yesterday I suggested Mr. Ed - I guess I was close...
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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 06:55 PM
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202. I don't care about Roe v. Wade in this election
republicans had the congress and white house and did nothing to try to change it, so that means they won't do it. Lets talk about the other issues.
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 07:15 PM
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203. Repigs will lose their ass...
a Presidency and several Senate and house seats! Hooray!!!
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JonLP24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 09:49 PM
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208. Why so many deleted posts
I think it was a great and obvious response to McCain's move.
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 09:52 PM
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209. When obama congratulated her for being about to be the first vice president
Edited on Fri Aug-29-08 09:58 PM by superconnected
nominated woman and said she's breaking the glass ceiling and pushing us forward with progress, I felt so proud of him. Really, he took the high road.

As for the anti abortion, little experienced palin, her credentials and ideals speak for themselves, Obama doesn't have to do anything to make those two look bad. he came out smelling like a rose. I so can't wait to vote for him. I haven't been this proud of a presidential candidate since clinton in '92 when I was still naive.
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 09:57 PM
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211. btw, does that show political desperation or what? he's floundering so bad he'll do anything
Edited on Fri Aug-29-08 09:58 PM by superconnected
for votes. Wonder if Mccain would pull her as his choice immediately if he did get elected. I bet $100 that he would.
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JfortheDonks Donating Member (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 10:07 PM
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212. Nothing Lost If They Don't Win
Tim Pawlenty, our Governor of Minnesota, didn't get it, and I'm sorry, but I had to chuckle after all of the mwah, mwah, mwah going on over the last year between him and McCain. In my opinion, the Republicans want to keep him here as long as possible, as after Obama's speech last night, they know they don't stand a chance now. They need their cronies wherever they already have them. Sarah Palin sounds like a nice woman, but she doesn't pack enough of a punch. Nothing major will be lost with her if they don't win.
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