Wolfowitz: Iraq Attacks Show U.S. Efforts Succeeding

[papau]

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=578&ncid=578&e=6&u=/nm/20040202/ts_nm/iraq_usa_wolfowitz_dc

Wolfowitz: Iraq Attacks Show U.S. Efforts Succeeding
By Tabassum Zakaria
KIRKUK, Iraq (Reuters) -

Attacks in Iraq (news - web sites) like the Arbil suicide bombings show efforts to build a new Iraq are succeeding and that extremists are using violence to stop the process, U.S. Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz said on Monday.

<snip>Sixty-seven people were killed in Sunday's coordinated bombings. <snip>

He predicted that these types of attacks would ultimately unite Iraqis against the violent extremists.

"September 11 had united Americans, and Bali united Indonesians and this terrible thing is going to unite Iraqis, It's not going to have the effect the terrorists seem to want," Wolfowitz said.<snip>

[lcordero]

1. Is this " War is Peace" reasoning?

[aquart]

Yes. All the way.

[Zero Gravitas]

22. in other news

2 + 2 = 5 and the chocolate ration has been increased!

[aquart]

2. He's a very stupid man, I see now.

Listening to him will get us killed.

[0007]

18. Just looking at Wolfowitz is the tip off that ya don't want to ...

bother listening to him.

[prolesunited]

3. So following this line of reasoning

The more U.S. soldiers coming home in transfer tubes, the greater our level of success.

These people all need to go on trial in The Hague for what they have done! :mad:

[Guaranteed]

9. Why don't we just nuke them, for the ULTIMATE in success?

The ultimate weapon, the ultimate justice!

[Cocoa]

12. cut out the middle-man

no wonder Bush was a failed businessman. If our goal is to kill Iraqis, this is not an efficient way of doing it.

[Prisoner_Number_Six]

4. War Is Peace

Slavery Is Freedom
Black Is White
Day Is Night

It's all just so doubleplus good! I love Big Brother...

We're at war with Eastasia. We've ALWAYS been at war with Eastasia.

[ixion]

5. Perfect example of neocon logic

People are dying everyday, the now failed state is nearing a point of all out civil war... things are working nicely. :eyes:

[Mz Pip]

6. The more

they fight and resist the better it is? Huh.

Bring it on! More deaths are a GOOD thing! Kill, kill, kill for peace.

MzPip
:dem:

[JuniorPlankton]

7. Oh, sure!

Like it did in Yugoslavia, parts of Soviet Union etc.
Nothing unites people more than a good old-fashioned civil war.

[ewagner]

13. Bingo!

Give that poster a cigar!

We aren't seeing success we're seeing the beginning of Civil War

[cmf]

8. War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is Strength

Welcome to 1984, folks.

[arcane1]

10. Ah, it all makes sense now!!

the jubilant Iraqis are mereley celebrating their newly-found 2nd ammendment rights!!

:eyes:

[0007]

19. The Iraqis happiness is exploding from every pore on their bodies

[nolabels]

11. Yea, but not in a way they were planning

Somebody should tell them Neo-con fools how they do the tango

http://www.occupationwatch.org/article.php?list=type&type=21

Pilgrims to honor past, debate Iraq's future
Millions head for shrines and politics of Shiite city

by Matthew B. Stannard, San Francisco Chronicle
January 30th, 2004
(snip)
In 1991, Mahdi said, the legend inspired the people of Karbala to join the uprising against Saddam Hussein that followed the Persian Gulf War. Thousands died in vain during the revolt, and the holy shrines were badly damaged.

Today, he said, the story of Husayn is motivating Karbalans in a different way. Mahdi is the local representative of Grand Ayatollah Ali al- Sistani, the highest Shiite cleric in Iraq, who from his office in Najaf has been calling on his followers to demand an active role in the shaping of the country's new government.

The 75-year-old Iranian-born al-Sistani has rejected a U.S. plan to choose the new government through a process of regional caucuses, instead demanding direct election of the new parliament.

The proposal has rattled some Sunnis in the north, who fear they will be shut out in direct elections and say the common estimate that Shiites make up 60 percent of Iraq's population is incorrect.
(snip)

[RedEarth]

14. Attacks Show U.S. Efforts Succeeding at starting a civil war,,,,nt

[lebkuchen]

15. The worse things get in Iraq, the rosier the picture the Bushies paint

Think of it that way. That's they're plan...no matter how disastrous the outcome, always put on a happy face.

[UpInArms]

16. If this is what "success" looks like,

I would certainly hate to see a clear view of "failure".

[Go Eagles]

17. Just like his prediction

of flowers being laid on US tanks and Iraqi oil paying funding reconstruction. This is a desperate attempt to spin an action that is creating ethnic strife and instability. He should stay out of Iraq entirely and crawl back to his hole. Every time he shows up there it provokes large scale violence.

[Mari333]

20. Wont some commanding officer please throw this asshole

onto the front lines and make him stand in front of a gas station and guard it, wearing NO protective vest and then let him open his lying piehole?
Please god, just once. Right in the middle of an insurgent attack. Let him feel the truth while our kids die in this f*cking bloodbath he is making so much money from.

[llmart]

24. To the moderators....

I was deleted for a similar comment on Wolfowitz in another thread. Let's be consistent if you're going to reprimand posters.

[Mari333]

32. Click the alert button under my name

that is the usual procedure if you are offended. =)

[llmart]

44. Mari333

I wasn't offended by your comment. In fact, I am almost always 100% in agreement with your comments and enjoy them immensely. They eloquently reflect the way I feel about this administration. I was upset at the moderators who sent me a "warning" about a post that I made re: Wolfowitz which wasn't much different than yours and being a relatively new poster, I wasn't sure of how to get my point across to the moderators.

[lostnfound]

46. Welcome to DU, Ilmart!

Don't be too upset with the mods; they probably give a little extra scrutiny to the newcomers to make sure they aren't disruptors trying to break the 'inciting violence' rules, etc.

Plus they have to deal with TONS of garbage from freeps (& "Rushbots"?) everytime Rush talks about DU on his show.

Mari333 has a son-in-law in Iraq.

[llmart]

51. Thanks for clearing that up.

Guess my feelings were a little hurt at first when I got a message from the mods. Mari333 - I feel for you if you have a close relative in Iraq. I am old enough to remember the VietNam fiasco - my loved ones having to go/trying not to go, so I have been very vocal against this war and against the idiot in the WH. I travelled to Washington from Michigan just to protest with thousands against going to war with Iraq. Of course, it didn't help deter * but I couldn't stand by and do nothing. I guess sometimes I get a little "hot" when reading some of the stupid things these PNAC'ers say.

[calimary]

52. Welcome to DU, llmart! Don't take it too hard. The mods do have to

be vigilant. Heaven knows there's still a large pool of thought out there that's very much against us. Glad you're WITH us!

[ThoughtCriminal]

21. Oh I get it now

So if the attacks fall off (as neo-cons claimed they were a few weeks ago), that means the U.S. is failing. "Victory through failure"

[Timefortruth]

23. If someone dropped 10 nuclear bombs on the place killing every living

thing it would be the ultimate success!

[DoYouEverWonder]

31. He would probably have an orgasm

He is the ultimate anarchist after all.

Him and Sharon would be delighted if non of those stinking arabs were in the way of their pipeline from Iraq to Israel. They still can't figure out why god put Israel's oil under Iraq?

[louis-t]

33. why is the man in yellow in this photo saluting with his left hand?

[DoYouEverWonder]

35. Never noticed that before

Could it be a sign of disrespect? Or do left handed soldiers, salute with their left hand?

[louis-t]

36. amputee?

[DoYouEverWonder]

38. Not on the deck of a friggin carrier

You need at least four arms to work on one of those.

[pinniped]

41. Because he's using his right hand to give that phony jerk a bird.

n/t

[GCP]

45. Did you mean anarchist or antichrist?

Both would work.
he's a third rate mind in a position with much too much power - kind of like our noble leader, no?

[DoYouEverWonder]

47. He's an anarchist who also happens to be

the embodiment of the antichrist.

Most folks don't realize yet what these Likudniks are really all about. They want the world to devolve into chaos and anarchy so that everyone will kill each other, while they wait it out in their secure bunkers. Then when it's over they'll have the whole planet to themselves and won't have to share their resources with the rest of us anymore.

[UpInArms]

37. here's a Rummy quote for you

Donald Rumsfeld, Secretary of Defence:

"What is victory? I say victory is persuading the American people and the rest of the world that this is not a quick matter that will be over in a month or a year or even 5 years. It is something we need to do so that we can continue to live in a world with powerful weapons and with people who are willing to use those powerful weapons. And we can do that. That would be a victory in my opinion." Dec. 2001

[yellowcanine]

25. "1984" just came 20 years late

Although I think even George Orwell would have been amazed at the Bushbots ability to redefine reality.

[yellowcanine]

26. What a little worm he has turned out to be

Does anyone take seriously what this man says anymore?

[drscm]

27. Why doesn't he propose killing everybody in Iraq. That way...

it will be a total success.

And then BushCo's contributor's (aka oil companies) would not have to deal with the messy Iraquis getting in their way.

[louis-t]

34. don't laugh, Dumsfeld has already suggested it.

[Malva Zebrina]

28. Insane- this man has already proven his lack of ability to think clearly

this only adds more proof of his stupidity.

[samsingh]

29. very insulting and cruel statement Wolfie

shows the depth of your evil and depravity.

[neverforget]

30. So if Baghdad is nuked, will that mean we won?

:shrug:

[yellowcanine]

54. No dummy, we win if Wash D.C. is nuked.

We win when they attack us, not when we attack them.

[truthisfreedom]

39. death is life! insecurity is freedom! instability is democracy!

perpetual war is peace!

[Ratty]

40. I smell an entry for next week's Top 10!

Looking forward to it too!

[Hekate]

42. Where's George Orwell when we need him?

Edited to add links to evidence of the real cost of this delusional war.
Hekate

ARLINGTON WEST, SANTA BARBARA CALIF.
http://www.veteransforpeace.org/Default.htm
click on the large photo of AW which will take you here:
http://www.veteransforpeace.org/Arlington_west_121003.htm
Scroll down the page for all the photos, then go back up to follow the links.

[formactv]

43. he's around here somewhere. Real close by.

B-B! B-B! B-B! B-B!

[bushisanidiot]

48. Interesting That He Links Mass Violence With Uniting a People

kinda makes you wonder who's orchestrating the attacks.. and who might have been behind 9-11. who benefits? hmmm..

[snippy]

49. Evidently Orwell was an optimist.

[Aristus]

50. "We're gonna lib'rate them Eye-Rackies if we gotta keel ever last wunna

them tah do it. Then we're gonna force them at the points o' these here guns tah adopt democracy. Ain't life grand?"

Ah, yes, War is Peace.

[JoFerret]

53. German cannibal

Anyone notice how much Wolfowitz looks like that German cannibal fellow?