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MiaCulpa Donating Member (741 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 12:43 AM
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Rove defends defiance of congressional subpoena
Source: Raw Story

BEVERLY HILLS, Calif. - Former White House adviser Karl Rove on Monday defended his defiance of a congressional subpoena, saying he's offered lawmakers other ways to question him about allegations of political pressure at the Justice Department.

In five letters to the House Judiciary Committee, "my lawyer has offered for me to go up to visit with members of Congress, visit with the staff or respond to written questions without foreclosing any future action by Congress," Rove said.

Rove, now a Fox News contributor, was responding to questions from Television Critics Association members during a Fox News panel session.

John Moody, Fox News executive vice president, was asked if it undercuts the channel's credibility to have someone with Rove's "political baggage" in its lineup.

"No," Moody replied, calling the former Bush adviser an authority on politics and adding that the current difference of opinion with Congress is between Rove and lawmakers.

But when a reporter tried to press the point with Moody, Rove jumped in to dispute characterization of the dispute as personal...

Full article at the link by Raw Story via wire service.

Read more: http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Karl_Rove_Denies_Political_Ties_Taint_0715.html



I dunno, it seems it's up to Nancy whether or not Rove gets frog marched...

-Diane
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 12:59 AM
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1. I think it's time we all got off Rove's back ...
... this is obviously a man with nothing to hide.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 07:37 AM
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17. well if that is the case, let him testify under oath.
Edited on Tue Jul-15-08 07:40 AM by alyce douglas
what an arrogant pig Rove is, he needs to be arrested.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 01:01 AM
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2. Rove cannot just choose to have a conversation with the Judicial
Committee. He does not seem to know what the word "subpoena" means. Here is the definition: literally - under penalty

A writ requiring appearance in court to give testimony.
tr.v., -naed, -na·ing, -nas.

To serve or summon with such a writ.



http://www.answers.com/topic/subpoena?cat=biz-fin

Have we ever had such an ignorant bunch in the White House?
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drmeow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 01:08 AM
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5. The ignorant bunch is in Congress
The bunch in the White House are arrogant bullies - they know perfectly well that what they are doing is wrong, they just don't care.
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oldhippie Donating Member (355 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 08:05 AM
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19. The Congress is not a court .....
..... so your definition is meaningless.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 12:02 PM
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28. The congressional subpoena has the same force as a judicial subpoena
A subpoena, although now a codified procedure, is a part of our common law, I believe.

http://www.cov.com/files/Publication/22b7b0e9-aa4e-4f62-acb6-280c32e0f643/Presentation/PublicationAttachment/95906ed4-5a48-4cf7-92db-28b34ebbc133/When_Congress_Calls.pdf

This article was written by attorneys at Covington & Burlington

Here is an article on that firm's representation of pharma companies:

http://peterrost.blogspot.com/2008/05/schering-plough-hired-covington-burling.html

The article is pretty well researched from what I can tell without doing the research myself.
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AlbertCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 01:02 AM
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3. saying he's offered lawmakers other ways to question him
Edited on Tue Jul-15-08 01:03 AM by AlbertCat
This is JUST what I said to the judge when they wanted to question me about my traffic violation! I said to the cop. "C'mon over, Hon, and we'll have some coffee and donuts and talk about it, m'kay?"... but they STILL made me come to court!


The number of ways Rove has suggested he testify is irrelivent. The court decides that. A subpoena is a subpoena. Period.

Except, of course, in the Bush administration where they think it's an RSVP invitation.

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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 01:05 AM
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4. Time to arrest the pig
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drmeow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 01:09 AM
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6. No action by Karl Rove is defensible. n/t
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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 01:21 AM
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7. I thought, he was out of the country...
huh?

So what was the exchange at the hearing?
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NV Whino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 01:24 AM
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8. visit? Visit? VISIT?
WHAT FUCKING VISIT?!

It's called TESTIFYING. UNDER OATH!
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TerribleLarryDingle Donating Member (231 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 01:29 AM
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9. I want to see the little piggie
In an orange jumpsuit and shackles
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Frustratedlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 01:35 AM
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10. Have you seen the ad about saving money, with the pig looking in the store window?
Everytime I see that ad, I think of Rove.

I try not to watch anymore than I have to.

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TerribleLarryDingle Donating Member (231 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 03:15 PM
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25. LOL
I do and yes it really makes me think of him and Rush Impotent drug addict fat ass Limpballs.
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World Citizen Donating Member (363 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 01:53 AM
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11. I dont mind if the committee lets it simmer for a week or so...
let the contentions fly and build it up in the media as much as possible....... but then the axe has to fall. He MUST testify. Maybe we should start rumors about a Make Rove Testify protest rally.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 01:54 AM
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12. I just watched a movie about him tonight
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rambler_american Donating Member (565 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 04:49 AM
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13. So what
are the Dems going to do about it? They've already set a precedent with Myers and Bolton. Send him a strongly worded memo and then wait until January 20, 2009 and the point becomes moot.
Jesus Rick Rolling Christ, Congress. DO SOMETHING
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 05:53 AM
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14. what precedent strongly worded point becomes blah blah bla bla
blah blah bla bla
blah blah bla
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 06:21 AM
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15. Other ways?
These fuckers think they don't have to take an oath. How fucking special they must be.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 06:58 AM
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16. Aw, isn't that nice? He can take flowers and a nice bottle of wine when he goes to visit them.
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 07:49 AM
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18. Oh so Congress has to comply with Rove. Pursue these other ways of talking to him.
:crazy: Well what the hell were we thinking? Rove having to comply with Congress. We had it bassackwards.
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loveable liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 08:17 AM
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20. arrest the phoquer. Make my day.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 09:06 AM
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21. We would all like to see this
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 09:08 AM
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22. let them get him right on the set of FOX now that would be great.
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Earth Bound Misfit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 10:32 AM
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23. Instead, we see this....
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 12:11 PM
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24. How does the NY Times support hiring someone defying a subpeona?
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Lorentz Donating Member (302 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 05:10 PM
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26. Isn't 5 days up now? The ball is in Conyers' court.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 05:32 PM
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27. Yes it is and we will see how weak our Congress is
Our FBI CIA and Supreme court are all in the hands of the most corrupt

There is a growing anger out there

Our Government isn't working
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 01:34 PM
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29. Rove has offered to visit with members of Congress...
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