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RamboLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 03:16 PM Original message |
Southwest denies family travel (4 unruly kids) |
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Bluzmann57 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 03:18 PM Response to Original message |
1. Some police officers donated money? |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 03:21 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. Do you really meet people with such simple opinions? |
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TheMadMonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 07:10 PM Response to Reply #6 |
83. I certainly do, and to bloody many of them are here on DU. n/t |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 08:08 PM Response to Reply #6 |
99. there's been some anti-cop crap on DU that is very disturbing |
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Midlodemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 03:19 PM Response to Original message |
2. Psst. Head over to the lounge. |
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LaurenG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 03:19 PM Response to Original message |
3. You would think the airlines would have to foot any bills the family incurred after being left |
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tularetom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 03:21 PM Response to Original message |
4. There really IS a Screaming Baby Airlines |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 03:21 PM Response to Original message |
5. I'm on Soutwest's side too |
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Sabriel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 03:31 PM Response to Reply #5 |
10. What do you suggest? A martini? A Valium? |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 03:36 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. Maybe just some benadryl.... |
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joeglow3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 04:38 PM Response to Reply #13 |
40. Benadryl is what we gave our kids before flying |
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pansypoo53219 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 05:25 PM Response to Reply #13 |
54. a grasshopper or two may be more to their liking. |
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TXDemGal (600 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 07:36 PM Response to Reply #13 |
91. Some kids who take Benadryl |
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sui generis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 04:25 PM Response to Reply #91 |
189. yeah I think diphenhydramine hcl is a chiral product |
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Ilsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 08:27 PM Response to Reply #13 |
105. Benadryl has a paradoxical effect on ALOT of kids. It is a very |
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AnneD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 09:39 PM Response to Reply #105 |
119. It is important to know your kids reaction prior to the flight... |
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Ilsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 10:48 PM Response to Reply #119 |
124. My son used to get sleepy with benadryl, but not anymore. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 03:47 PM Response to Reply #10 |
21. Not all kids, only kids who have behavior issues that are hard to control |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 04:13 PM Response to Reply #21 |
32. I remember a flight where some kid kicked the back of my seat all |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 05:13 PM Response to Reply #32 |
50. I remember a flight when some elderly woman shoved the back of my seat all the way. |
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LisaM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 06:52 PM Response to Reply #50 |
80. I always get stuck behind a seat reclining person |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 07:21 PM Response to Reply #80 |
86. If I were politely asked to not recline far, I probably would. |
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LisaM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 07:26 PM Response to Reply #86 |
88. I haven't figured out the best way to deal with it (the reclining) |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 09:37 PM Response to Reply #88 |
117. Everyone's seat reclines, they don't have to ask permission. |
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Angleae (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 04:32 AM Response to Reply #117 |
147. Not all of them do. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 11:11 AM Response to Reply #147 |
168. That is true, I missed that. Everyone's seat reclines except for the few that don't. |
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SheilaT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-09-08 08:24 AM Response to Reply #147 |
220. That row is rigged not to recline. |
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LisaM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 11:54 AM Response to Reply #117 |
171. LOL, just a light punch. More like a push back. I think you misunderstand. |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 05:45 PM Response to Reply #171 |
203. That device was banned by American Airlines (among others) |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 12:31 AM Response to Reply #88 |
137. You deal with my back problems.... |
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LisaM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 11:57 AM Response to Reply #137 |
172. I sympathize |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 03:41 PM Response to Reply #172 |
186. Here you go.... |
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nodehopper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 08:49 PM Response to Reply #80 |
110. the light thing was rude, but seat reclining? |
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izquierdista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 03:33 PM Response to Reply #80 |
185. You need to ask for the seat puller then |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-09-08 06:52 AM Response to Reply #185 |
213. goddamned you |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 09:15 PM Response to Reply #50 |
114. its awful but then flying is hell anymore. I remember when it was great. |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 02:43 PM Response to Reply #114 |
175. Let's reminisce about that. I remember real silverware - cute little utensils |
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appleannie1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-09-08 12:36 PM Response to Reply #114 |
231. I actually remember getting dinner. |
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Demeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 04:59 AM Response to Reply #50 |
148. Before Seats Were Spaced Roughly Equivalent to Slave Ship Accommodations |
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LibertyLover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 07:32 PM Response to Reply #32 |
90. I've been on that train up to Edinburgh |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 08:16 PM Response to Reply #32 |
103. Love the runon-sentence types |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 09:14 PM Response to Reply #103 |
113. this was like fingernails on a chalkboard. I've never seen anything |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 10:42 PM Response to Reply #32 |
123. Hell, I was on a trans continental flight once on one of those jumbo jets |
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Jack_DeLeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 06:49 PM Response to Reply #10 |
79. how about not flying at all... |
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nodehopper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 08:53 PM Response to Reply #79 |
111. I think people just need to get over being bothered by kids on airlines |
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Jack_DeLeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 11:12 PM Response to Reply #111 |
127. I actually dont fly... |
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nodehopper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 12:26 AM Response to Reply #127 |
136. right, and that is totally your choice |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 11:13 PM Response to Reply #111 |
128. Seriously. If you don't want "unruly" kids on your flight, take a private jet. |
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Lifetimedem (652 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 02:52 PM Response to Reply #79 |
177. Exactly ! |
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bitchkitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 11:20 AM Response to Reply #10 |
169. Normal kids, no. Autistic children - yes! |
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FourScore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 06:08 PM Response to Reply #10 |
204. Doctors are not at all adverse to medicating children with |
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Maraya1969 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 02:38 AM Response to Reply #10 |
241. No it's for the adults silly............ |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 11:12 PM Response to Reply #5 |
126. ugh...all I can say |
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high density (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 03:23 PM Response to Original message |
7. Good for Southwest |
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skooooo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 03:29 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. I felt the same way until I read... |
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enlightenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 03:35 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Not an excuse. |
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skooooo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 03:37 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. Should have given them antihistimines.. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 06:34 PM Response to Reply #14 |
74. In many children antihistamines have an opposite effect to what you'd |
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skooooo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 06:47 PM Response to Reply #74 |
78. By the age of those kids.. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 07:24 PM Response to Reply #78 |
87. That comment shows you know very little about autism. |
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Ilsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 08:31 PM Response to Reply #78 |
106. Not with autistic kids. A moderately autistic child can be very unpredictable. |
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kaygore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 03:59 PM Response to Reply #11 |
29. I agree! Many parents just don't take responsibility for their children's behavior |
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kiranon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 06:16 PM Response to Reply #29 |
72. Autistic tantrums don't last forever. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 06:44 PM Response to Reply #72 |
75. Thanks for your post, kiranon. As a parent of so-called "normal" children, |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 09:28 PM Response to Reply #72 |
115. No evidence these kids were having a tantrum. |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-09-08 10:17 PM Response to Reply #115 |
236. That can be an autistic kid's tantrum. |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-09-08 08:11 AM Response to Reply #72 |
217. This brings up a question. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 04:09 PM Response to Reply #11 |
31. Autism can cause severe behavioral issues. I seriously doubt that |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 05:22 PM Response to Reply #31 |
53. Some autistic kids are also ADD |
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enlightenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 05:57 PM Response to Reply #31 |
64. From the interview this morning on CNN. |
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Ilsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 08:43 PM Response to Reply #64 |
108. Doctors aren't handing out those diagnoses very easily any more. |
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enlightenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 12:19 AM Response to Reply #108 |
134. Please don't put words in my mouth. |
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Demeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 05:10 AM Response to Reply #64 |
149. That's Just Plain Ignorant and Nuts |
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kiranon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 06:08 PM Response to Reply #11 |
67. Perhaps you will be so fortunate to get a chance to find out. |
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Stewie (244 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 03:50 PM Response to Reply #9 |
22. Eh, I'm not so quick to believe that. |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 06:01 PM Response to Reply #9 |
65. CP is not an emotion/behavioral/mental condition |
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Lifetimedem (652 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 02:53 PM Response to Reply #65 |
179. Bingo! |
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Lifetimedem (652 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 02:53 PM Response to Reply #9 |
178. Believe it or not |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-09-08 07:27 AM Response to Reply #178 |
215. Severely autistic children cannot always be taught to listen to anyone |
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Lifetimedem (652 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-09-08 08:37 PM Response to Reply #215 |
234. If the parents |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 02:19 AM Response to Reply #234 |
239. So where do they leave him? |
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sui generis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 03:39 PM Response to Reply #7 |
15. agreed - parents should have to go to school and get a license |
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enlightenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 03:42 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. I love you. nt |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 04:17 PM Response to Reply #15 |
34. Yeah!! |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 05:16 PM Response to Reply #15 |
52. Damn straight! give then tasers and spray valium in their "newborn" packages also! |
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kiranon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 05:45 PM Response to Reply #15 |
61. Thank you for understanding children with disabilities |
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sui generis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 09:19 AM Response to Reply #61 |
163. I'll be more gentle with you |
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DarthDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 02:00 AM Response to Reply #15 |
141. Ugh |
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sui generis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 09:07 AM Response to Reply #141 |
162. grow up |
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Lifetimedem (652 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 02:55 PM Response to Reply #15 |
181. The more out of control children I see |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 03:40 PM Response to Reply #7 |
16. "rugrats" . . . well, no one will accuse you of going overboard with your family values |
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high density (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 04:39 PM Response to Reply #16 |
41. I guess you haven't sat for a few hours on a plane in front of kids that are constantly screaming |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 05:27 PM Response to Reply #41 |
55. oh I guess I have. |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 07:44 PM Response to Reply #55 |
93. "Rugrat" can be a term of affection or derision depending on |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 07:49 PM Response to Reply #93 |
94. I certainly agree with that - but read the post |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 07:57 PM Response to Reply #93 |
95. read post number 7 above |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 08:07 PM Response to Reply #95 |
98. I have to admit that I agree with the poster that it's up to parents to |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 06:06 AM Response to Reply #98 |
150. How do you know they were kicking the seats? |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 10:51 AM Response to Reply #150 |
166. I was referring to the other posts that indicate that children kicking the seats |
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high density (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 08:55 AM Response to Reply #55 |
160. How do you know my tolerance level? |
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pansypoo53219 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 05:32 PM Response to Reply #41 |
57. they need a no children section. |
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nodehopper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 08:58 PM Response to Reply #41 |
112. stupid and being very inconsiderate? |
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high density (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 08:39 AM Response to Reply #112 |
157. Well when you pump out the kids |
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nodehopper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 07:51 PM Response to Reply #157 |
209. yes, but parents can't always control their kids |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 11:24 PM Response to Reply #112 |
211. I don't understand where people get the idea that they're entitled to let their kids run wild. |
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nodehopper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-09-08 11:49 AM Response to Reply #211 |
226. my response wasn't to the OP's article |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 03:46 PM Response to Reply #41 |
187. I flew Frankfurt to New Delhi in front of an uncomfortable baby... |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 06:08 PM Response to Reply #16 |
68. I personally prefer "ankle biters" |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 06:12 PM Response to Reply #68 |
70. My mom calls them "curtain climbers" |
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liberal renegade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 07:06 AM Response to Reply #70 |
156. crumb snatchers. |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 07:13 PM Response to Reply #68 |
85. How old were they? |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 08:10 PM Response to Reply #85 |
100. They were all school aged |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 06:31 AM Response to Reply #100 |
154. how do you know that |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 05:17 PM Response to Reply #154 |
197. She was 7 -- all the articles I read said that |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 05:29 PM Response to Reply #197 |
198. I agree if there are no other circumstances - like CP at play |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-09-08 11:36 AM Response to Reply #198 |
225. CP should not affect a child's ability to behave |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-09-08 12:05 PM Response to Reply #225 |
230. you would think - however please note the following from an earlier post of mine |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 07:30 PM Response to Reply #68 |
89. hmmmmmm |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 08:13 PM Response to Reply #89 |
101. WTF? CP doesn't cause mental retardation |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 09:43 PM Response to Reply #101 |
121. Local person has CP, gets around well except for ft drag and hand contraction. |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 06:17 AM Response to Reply #101 |
152. I believe the references I provided state a correlation |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-09-08 07:33 AM Response to Reply #101 |
216. True; but sometiimes a brain injury at or before birth causes both. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 09:39 PM Response to Reply #89 |
118. All children sometimes develop behavioral or emotional problems |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 06:08 AM Response to Reply #118 |
151. such as children with CP |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-09-08 08:20 AM Response to Reply #68 |
219. In the navy community, we were all called "house apes." nt |
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Ilsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 10:50 PM Response to Reply #16 |
125. Thanks Dr. Dan. Anyone who can't handle the crying should wear earplugs, IMO. nt |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 06:43 AM Response to Reply #125 |
155. I agree - time for adult to be adults |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 03:28 PM Response to Original message |
8. Let the kids have the run of the cabin |
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Demobrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 03:35 PM Response to Original message |
12. I'm flying Southwest from now on. |
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kiva (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 03:45 PM Response to Original message |
18. I knew there was a reason I prefer to fly on Southwest...n/t |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 03:46 PM Response to Original message |
19. There are ways of keeping challenging children calm without using force |
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LisaM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 03:47 PM Response to Original message |
20. They must have been really, really unruly |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 04:18 PM Response to Reply #20 |
35. One of these children has autism, a severe behavioral disorder. |
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LisaM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 04:30 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. I was just speaking in general terms |
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bigworld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 10:52 AM Response to Reply #35 |
167. The mother SAYS he has autism. |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 06:10 PM Response to Reply #20 |
69. Great post -- agree completely |
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Igel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 03:52 PM Response to Original message |
23. I've flown while my kid was acting up. |
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diddlysquat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 03:53 PM Response to Original message |
24. Who in the world flies from |
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Sabriel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 03:56 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. That's Southwest's hub, isn't it? |
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pokercat999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 05:36 PM Response to Reply #26 |
59. I was asked to go by way of Buffalo but I thought that |
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Lifetimedem (652 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 02:57 PM Response to Reply #59 |
182. I would have bought you lunch |
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pokercat999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 04:37 PM Response to Reply #182 |
191. Sorry veggies only here, maybe a FAKE buffalo wing. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 03:56 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. Someone who can afford to fly on Southwest but not on Alaska Airlines? |
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mnhtnbb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 03:57 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. Cheap tickets. |
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RamboLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 04:04 PM Response to Reply #24 |
30. Stupid Airlines do - Amazing how out of the way they will fly you |
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high density (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 04:46 PM Response to Reply #24 |
43. People who choose the lowest fare above anything else |
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Sabriel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 07:05 PM Response to Reply #43 |
82. Sometimes "folks" don't have any choice |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 04:56 PM Response to Reply #24 |
48. it's called a hub and spoke system. |
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DarthDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 02:09 AM Response to Reply #48 |
142. Well . . . |
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Retrograde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 08:05 PM Response to Reply #24 |
97. cheapest fare? |
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mnhtnbb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 03:56 PM Response to Original message |
25. It's tough to have kids with medical problems--BUT they don't belong |
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Ilsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 08:47 PM Response to Reply #25 |
109. What should families with disabled kids do? |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 04:14 PM Response to Original message |
33. Years ago I flew LAX to Chicago at Christmas on American? or United? |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 04:22 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. You were delayed for hours on the ground, and a toddler |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 04:25 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. Yep. We were ALL pretty much at the ends of our wits just with the weather |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 06:31 PM Response to Reply #37 |
73. The child actually had a normal, predictable reaction to a huge stress. |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 08:03 PM Response to Reply #73 |
96. Actually, the child appeared to be a spoiled brat, as evidenced by the |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 11:16 PM Response to Reply #96 |
130. Um...the kid was a toddler. |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 01:02 PM Response to Reply #130 |
173. You had to be there. There was a MAJOR problem with the parents |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 11:15 PM Response to Reply #36 |
129. Seriously. It's obvious the poster doesn't have kids. A toddler - hello?! |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-09-08 10:19 PM Response to Reply #33 |
237. When that happened on a flight I was on, I got out my frog puppet. |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 10:49 AM Response to Reply #237 |
242. so why don't the PARENTS distract them then? n/t |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 01:07 PM Response to Reply #242 |
243. They do, but it doesn't always work. |
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happygoluckytoyou (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 04:31 PM Response to Original message |
39. fuckin Autistic kid ruined it for everyone else.... |
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high density (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 04:45 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. Yeah, damn it for expecting parents to control their kids |
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happygoluckytoyou (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 05:44 PM Response to Reply #42 |
60. why argue with me..... i said the bastard kid was at fault |
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kiranon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 05:53 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. Why such language about a child with a disability? |
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Ilsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 08:34 PM Response to Reply #42 |
107. I have an autistic kid. It isn't that easy to know how they |
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MrsBrady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 04:49 PM Response to Original message |
44. did it occur to anyone |
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high density (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 04:50 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. Erm, why is it our or the crew's responsibility to parent another person's children? |
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MrsBrady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 04:53 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. so what, are you saying... |
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kiranon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 05:55 PM Response to Reply #45 |
63. Autistic children respond well to calmness but not to anger. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 06:47 PM Response to Reply #45 |
76. Have you ever heard "it takes a village"? |
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high density (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 08:44 AM Response to Reply #76 |
158. Give me a break |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 09:03 AM Response to Reply #158 |
161. Nope, that's not what I'm suggesting. All I'm suggesting is that people |
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Tansy_Gold (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 05:15 PM Response to Reply #44 |
51. There is also a level of paranoia -- |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 05:34 PM Response to Reply #51 |
58. That hadn't occurred to me |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 05:28 PM Response to Reply #44 |
56. Probably not. |
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enlightenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 06:14 PM Response to Reply #44 |
71. How do you know that no one offered? |
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superconnected (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 04:51 PM Response to Original message |
46. 1. They shouldn't have left them stranded, 2. They should have kicked them off the flight and told |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 04:58 PM Response to Original message |
49. While the policy may or may not have been reasonable |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 06:05 PM Response to Original message |
66. GOOD -- unsafe and unfair |
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Jack_DeLeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 06:47 PM Response to Original message |
77. I'd hate to be locked up in a confined place totally without any control and having rowdy people... |
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Seedersandleechers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 07:02 PM Response to Reply #77 |
81. I was traveling with an infant from KC to Tampa |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 07:10 PM Response to Reply #81 |
84. Babies can't help something like that -- older kids should behave |
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kiranon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 11:37 PM Response to Reply #84 |
131. Nonsense! Autism is a spectrum disorder - it varies with each child. |
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Retrograde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 08:13 PM Response to Reply #81 |
102. I have no problem with infants |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 09:56 PM Response to Reply #81 |
122. how did hh react to the noise? |
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Seedersandleechers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 12:22 AM Response to Reply #122 |
135. Very calm, |
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marshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 01:31 PM Response to Reply #81 |
174. Noise is one thing, these kids were a danger to the flight |
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cliss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 07:37 PM Response to Original message |
92. Re: unruly kids. |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 08:21 PM Response to Reply #92 |
104. My husband and I sat in the passenger lounge at Newark and watched |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 01:13 AM Response to Reply #92 |
140. Some autistic kids can get quite frantic when their routine is disrupted |
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renate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 02:55 AM Response to Reply #140 |
144. yeah, and maybe the other kids picked up on that |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 03:04 AM Response to Reply #144 |
146. Resolving a safety issue or even a behavioral issue |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 05:13 PM Response to Reply #92 |
196. I had a long flight with LeftyKid when he was two, so I kept him up real late the night before. |
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MadMaddie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 09:29 PM Response to Original message |
116. One of the children is autistic. Another has cerebral palsy. |
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New Dawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 09:42 PM Response to Reply #116 |
120. But many or most planes have special seating areas for wealthy customers |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 01:00 AM Response to Reply #120 |
139. Bingo. |
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DarthDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 02:14 AM Response to Reply #120 |
143. Southwest Doesn't |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 03:01 AM Response to Reply #143 |
145. Those seats are bolted down and can be re-arranged. |
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marshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 02:54 PM Response to Reply #120 |
180. Not everyone who flies first class is wealthy |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 03:50 PM Response to Reply #180 |
188. Actually... |
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MadMaddie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 07:49 PM Response to Reply #120 |
208. Yes it does.. |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 11:50 PM Response to Original message |
132. One point that has not been made here.. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 12:57 AM Response to Reply #132 |
138. Too bad parents can't smack autistic children any more. |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 06:19 AM Response to Reply #138 |
153. What part of "normal" children do you fail to understand? |
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PA Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-09-08 08:19 AM Response to Reply #138 |
218. Unbelievable, isn't it? |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 11:36 PM Response to Reply #132 |
212. What do you propose? A board with a nail, or a cat-o-nine-tails? |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-09-08 07:19 AM Response to Reply #212 |
214. Actually I prefer a bullwhip.. |
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Mind_your_head (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 12:11 AM Response to Original message |
133. Everything (most things in fact) are not black-and-white |
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JNelson6563 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 08:48 AM Response to Original message |
159. Hoo-boy. |
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sui generis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 09:37 AM Response to Reply #159 |
164. the funniest part about this thread |
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ContraBass Black (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 11:54 AM Response to Reply #164 |
170. "you can't just show up on a thread and bite someone and turn them into...zombies" |
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nam78_two (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 03:03 PM Response to Reply #164 |
183. lol |
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n0nesuch (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 10:00 AM Response to Original message |
165. This doesnt happen often enough... |
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Lifetimedem (652 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 02:50 PM Response to Original message |
176. People have a responsibility |
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question everything (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 03:09 PM Response to Original message |
184. I agree. On the one hand we feel for the family that was stranded |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 04:35 PM Response to Original message |
190. They were DISABLED. Jeez, how can anyone take SW's side in this?? |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 04:44 PM Response to Reply #190 |
192. It doesn't matter whether the kids are disabled or not. Can you imagine |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 04:50 PM Response to Reply #192 |
193. Have the parents subdue them, but this is plain discrimination |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 04:51 PM Response to Reply #193 |
194. They weren't kicked off because of a disease or condition they have, |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 04:59 PM Response to Reply #194 |
195. Ask any parent of an autistic child how easy it is to control their kid |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 05:32 PM Response to Reply #195 |
199. If she couldn't control her child, she shouldn't have brought him onto the plane. |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 05:35 PM Response to Reply #199 |
200. That's just cold - so Autistic children should never fly? |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 06:21 PM Response to Reply #200 |
205. Anyone who is not capable of sitting down and strapping in as instructed |
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Robb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 07:28 PM Response to Reply #205 |
207. FINALLY! |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-10-08 02:25 AM Response to Reply #199 |
240. Autistic children's behaviour is not necessarily consistent |
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marshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 05:37 PM Response to Reply #195 |
201. I figured she was tending to the autistic and CP kids and the other two were wreaking havoc |
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marshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 05:42 PM Response to Original message |
202. I'm amazed that people will go on television and prove themselves to be such idiots |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 06:59 PM Response to Original message |
206. Fuck Southwest. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 11:16 PM Response to Original message |
210. Considering Southwest skipped 30 MONTHS OF SAFETY CHECKS, this family should feel lucky. |
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apnu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-09-08 08:29 AM Response to Original message |
221. Do any of you siding with Southwest understand what CP or Autism is? |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-09-08 09:48 AM Response to Reply #221 |
222. It doesn't matter what medical conditions the children have |
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apnu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-09-08 10:13 AM Response to Reply #222 |
223. Really? you were there witnessing this real danger? |
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marshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-09-08 10:28 AM Response to Reply #223 |
224. According to eyewitnesses.... |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-09-08 11:57 AM Response to Reply #223 |
229. The article I read said the children refused to take their seats and fasten their seat belts |
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nodehopper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-09-08 11:50 AM Response to Reply #222 |
227. WHAT DANGER? |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-09-08 11:56 AM Response to Reply #227 |
228. A person who is not seat-belted on an aircraft in flight can become a missile |
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appleannie1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-09-08 12:46 PM Response to Original message |
232. Raised 7 kids and could take them anywhere, without resorting to meds. |
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Phoonzang (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-09-08 01:48 PM Response to Original message |
233. Everyone's focusing on the autistic kid but there were 3 |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-09-08 10:15 PM Response to Original message |
235. And this is why I always travel with a puppet in my carryon. |
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AngryOldDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-09-08 10:28 PM Response to Original message |
238. The dilemma: A family of six vs. a planeload of other passengers. |
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