Rove as a pundit raises suspicions

[flashl]

Source: IHT

WASHINGTON: Late Thursday night, Karl Rove, "the architect" of the last two Republican presidential victories, was on his new television perch at Fox News, offering free advice to Senator Barack Obama as he closed in on the Democratic nomination.

Any move by Obama to declare victory before the last of the Democratic primaries in June, Rove said, would alienate Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton's wing of the party. "That's a mistake," he said.

"That just is rubbing the loser's nose in it. And a lot of those supporters will remember it by November."

In the Obama campaign war room in Chicago, where Rove's talking head was just one of several across six television screens, his counsel was taken with a heavy dose of salt.

IHT

Read more: http://iht.com/articles/2008/05/12/america/rove.php

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Yeah, right, maybe "the architect" should roll out some of his 'uniter' strategies.

[annabanana]

1. Any Democrat who listens to this idiot no matter what he says

deserves what he gets. He will mix good info with bad as it suits his purpose.

[Sal Minella]

2. Why would anybody listen to anything said by this yawping rancid maggot?

[BigDaddy44]

39. I'll tell you why

He got an idiot elected twice. You don't think that took a little bit of skill?

[ryanmuegge]

41. Elected by an absolutely cretinous public with the help of massive "private" propaganda outlets

Not really that big of a deal. Also, he didn't even really get them elected; rather, he simply got the numbers within a stealable margin (which in and of itself says something the American public's shocking level of ignorance).

The propaganda outlets - MSNBC, CNN, FOX (in particular), TBN (and all other Christian channels), and most major newspapers certainly helped Rove's efforts by trivializing and obfuscating issues while giving Bush uniformly positive coverage.

[santamargarita]

5. That goes for Fox News - I removed everything Fox from my TV.

I don't want to even accidentally flip through Fox News.

[depakid]

9. I have too- along with CNN and all the spam and fundie channels

[Kolesar]

37. Whenever I stay in a hotel, I deprogram FoxNews from the TV set

...so that the next vistiors won't know it's even there and will not watch it.

[WillyToad]

29. I agree completely

[Roy]

45. Actually this statement probably applies to Repbs as well.

"Any Democrat who listens to this idiot no matter what he says"

[Frustratedlady]

3. All the more reason why I don't watch FAUX...

They have some of the strangest commentators, and it's obvious they continue to hire to that standard.

Why isn't Rove getting prepared for his upcoming Siegelmann trial...the hearings that are scheduled, which require his presence...helping McCain find his bearings?

[Gman]

4. Rove gives some damn good advice

that Obamabots should listen to. The move last week to declare Obama the winner here at DU just made me all the more determined to just sit on my hands in November, which I plan to do right now. A conversation I had in early March with an Obama national staffer where he was trying to explain to me how Hillary had no chance was when I first started filling up my calendar after Labor Day. Obama doesn't think he needs us Hillary people. That's just fine with me. Have fun, bucko.

[Botany]

6. "Bitter table for one, please."

"A conversation I had in early March with an Obama national staffer where he was trying to explain to me how Hillary had no chance ...."

He was just telling you the truth. BTW why should Olbama listen
to others give campaign advice? He has run a great campaign
already and he and his team seem way ahead of the curve.

[King Coal]

7. What are you doing to end polarity?

[Gman]

24. I'm doing just as much as the Obamabots

not a damn thing.

[H8fascistcons]

34. Can you say selfish?

Please, Please reconsider about not voting for Obama or sitting the election out, either way you choose to go you are enabling the right wing Fascists to continue the assault on our country and our constitution. You know McCain has talked about other wars and the bombing of Iran, do you really want the blood and suffering of innocent people on your hands as the result of your inaction and the inaction of other voters like you?

[Gman]

42. Again, I never said I won't vote for Obama

I vote straight party Democrat. That will spare me most of the agony of pulling the lever next to his name.

[ellenfl]

10. oh, fer crying out loud!

is wittle gman gonna take his ball and go home. :cry:

ANY dem who does not support the dem candidate for prez this year is a dino. sorry but there it is.

i have never voted a straight ticket in my life but you can bet i will this year!

ellen fl

[donco]

13. Every disenchanted Hillary supporter that sets this one out

will more than be made up by disenchanted Repugs, protesting McCain’s run; Cant win them all.

[BulletproofLandshark]

16. You're going to sit on your hands, huh?

Enjoy your McCain presidency, sore loser.

[Gonnuts]

18. Good, rove wins then

Divide and conquer - that's been Repub strategy all along - and you're just stupid enough to fall for it.

[sharp_stick]

22. Wahhhhhh!

This bullshit is getting really fucking old. If you're not going to vote for your parties nominee you can just fuck off.

I know you can vote for whoever you want or you can sit at home and continue your bitching and moaning. But as for being any force for change this is just a bullshit POS argument and you probably know that.

[Gman]

25. I didn't say I wouldn't vote for Obama

I vote straight ticket Democrat so Obama benefits from that. I won't be pulling a lever next to his name, or punching a card or whatever.

[1trackmindGOP]

32. First of all!

You are offensive calling all Obama supporters, Obamabots...like we are some kind of remote controlled toy...second...not all Obama supporters were involved with this, third...the candidate did not ask for this....You want to attribute every thing a supporter does to Obama as if HE Did it. That is just plain irrational...go ahead and sit on your hands if it makes you feel good. I am used to children pitching temper tantrums, but adults doing it is completely unbecoming. And lastly to your statement "Obama doesn't think he needs us Hillary people" Did you pull that out of your rear? He clearly said that he does and that he needs to work hard to win over her supporters and reunite the party if and when he is the nominee.

[Gman]

43. Actually, "sitting on one's hands" or said another way

"taking a walk" is a time honored tradition in the Democratic party when your candidate doesn't win in the primary.

I'm going to be very busy this fall. My calendar is already filling up for after Labor Day.

[Tippy]

8. On one hand I believe he has a point...on the other

Hillary has also made this claim many times over saying there is no way Obama can win, She is in the lead and there is no way a black can win.

[rasputin1952]

11. Rove offering advice to Obama equates to satan offering tips on

how to be a fair negotiator...it is just wrong and ain't gonna bring about a happy ending.

Rove is the dark-heart of a rotting corpse, even Stalin couldn't get much lower...x(

[flashl]

12. Pundits created the notion of Red state vs Blue state when in reality there are more

Purple States

[SlingBlade]

14. I blocked out Fox and CNN years ago

I’m not one of those who believes or can stomach the rancid
putrid hypocrisy that they call NEWS.puke:

But it sounds like they’ve built up quite a nice little stable of Felons,
Traitors and Sexual Predators for their daily line up.

It’s the channel of first choice for the Moral Values Crowd::kick:

[pattmarty]

15. It appears Bill Clinton is taking his advice.

[Gonnuts]

17. Just to show how far we've slide

Why is this man not in jail instead of on TV?

This nation is a joke.

This site is a joke.

We're a joke.

Every one of these bastards should have already been convicted of treason, but instead we have degenerated so far as to not only have not held them accountable, but instead these villains are awarded with pulpits, medals and golden-parachute jobs. We have become all that we use to be against. We are the terrorists. We are the criminals. We are the torturers. We are the rapists. We are the murders. We let them get away with it. We are the enablers.

This piss-ant site is part of the problem too. It shies away and hide real hard truths. You hide 9/11, election fraud as if they didn't exist, when in fact they're at the heart of everything that is effecting us. You're cowards, much like the Democratic Party you profess to love you dance around real issues, blow smoke about things that don't really matter and profess you're doing good. Bullshit. If the Democratic Party were any better than the Republican Party than why haven't they stopped this war? Why haven't they impeached? Why haven't they enforced the many subpoenas? Why haven't they held hearings that have produced anything but fained indignation?

I can tell you why - because the Democratic Party is as corrupt as Republicans and your Obama or Clinton are as deep in the cesspool as any, and any of you that think otherwise are fools or worse. I'm sick of your Melba Toast approach to everything. When we need rocks, you throw marsh-mellows.

[Kokonoe]

21. So, vote Obama

The executive branch appoints the wheels of justice.

[cayuga]

26. That about sums it up...we.are.a.joke

And what you say is the truth. The sad, undeniable, nail-in-the-coffin truth.

Not many people are willing or able to grasp the fact that we have hit bottom.

[nancyr]

19. I refuse to watch any propaganda.

No sane person could stomach Rove or his ilk.

[zanne]

20. It's horrifying to hear such venom coming out of a giant baby face. nt

[onehandle]

23. Thank you, Captain Obvious.

How much did he get paid for that sage wisdom.

Ten cents?

[Kolesar]

38. Rove's just running his mouth so that he has something to say

Republicans always struggle to discuss the issues. They prefer to say something divisive, but even that runs out after a while.

[bluesmail]

27. That's like rubbing the losers nose in it, Rove said.

Speaking about himself, of course.

[Kali]

28. TV will be the end of us all - stop watching.

[jonnyra]

36. Recently did just that

Cancelled DIsh as I was tired of paying 50+ bucks a month for the occasional good program on FSTV. TV pretty much stays off. I get info from the internet. I catch highlights of Colbert and Stewart from the blogs and donwload the occasional South Park from Itunes. Im done with TV. Oh I do have to catch the nightly Seinfeld reruns on the local station...thats about it.

[Kali]

40. You will be healthier and better informed without it.

After a while when you do see television, especially commercials it will make you feel really strange...I think quitting is the ultimate act of revolution.

[ToughLuck]

30. Rove, one of the most disgusting humans on the planet..figures he works for Fox.

[1trackmindGOP]

31. I am so sure he has Democrats interest at heart! Snark!

If Obama has enough delegates and committed SD's to put him at 2025 then by all means he is perfectly entitled to claim victory since that was the number he was told he would need to win at the onset of the Primary.

[sutz12]

33. Actually, Rove as a pundit raises disgust. nt

[lonestarnot]

44. If I had to listen to Rove as a pundit, I would have to call in sick from diarrhea!

[leftofthedial]

35. you mean the corporate media is in bed with the bad guys?

Nah. Not in THIS country. This great, free democracy . . .





(or is that "democracy-free"?)

[classysassy]

46. Justice

If this was a just country,Mr Rove would be behind bars.The steel ones not the ones where his pals at faux drink.

[truthisfreedom]

47. This creature belongs behind bars, not behind an anchor's desk.

Let's put him there.

[jmowreader]

48. We'll remember it, all right...

we'll also remember that Your Boy Needs To Be In Jail Right Now and you need to be in the next cell, and a Democratic president is the only chance we've got of sending the two of you there.

Ain't one person in the country who supported Hillary Clinton in the primary gonna either stay home in November or push the button for McSame, Karl.