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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 08:35 AM
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Russia, China block UN Iran resolution
Edited on Tue Mar-04-08 08:36 AM by cal04
Source: Associated Press

Russia and China on Tuesday scuttled a Western attempt to introduce a resolution on Iran's nuclear defiance at a meeting of the International Atomic Energy Agency, diplomats said.

The decision appeared to be the result of lingering unhappiness by the two world powers about not being informed earlier of plans for such a resolution.

It came a day after the U.N. Security Council imposed another round of sanctions on Iran for refusing to suspend uranium enrichment. Iran defiantly vowed to continue its nuclear program, which it insists is aimed only at generating power.

Moscow on Monday had threatened not to back the new U.N. sanctions against Iran unless the West gave up its IAEA resolution plans.




Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080304/ap_on_re_mi_ea/nuclear_iran
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 08:43 AM
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1. Iran should be left alone to develop their nuclear energy.
There is no acceptable reason for singling out Iran and saying that of all the nation in the world who are doing exactly what you are doing - you can't do it. It is wrong...
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nels25 Donating Member (636 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 09:26 AM
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2. I do not think there is any realistic
way to stop them.

But I also do think that they intend to take this to the limit.

I feel in my bones they want nukes, and history tells me that country's lead by people the type of the current Iranian leader can cause trouble.

Do we really believe that given the chance the Iran government might not take a whack at Israel if they thought they could get in a free shot??

Also with a nuke comes regional power and ability to throw their geo-political weight around, and this can not be a plus.


Still as I have stated I see no way to stop it short of war, and this war would be a full blown in your face type conflict that I do not believe we have the capability of fighting at the present time.

So we will have to let take history take it's course and hope that when crunch time comes, we have leadership capable of dealing with it accordingly.

Sigh

:shrug:
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 09:48 AM
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3. I see no reason to doubt that they just want the electricity.
Edited on Tue Mar-04-08 09:49 AM by Dhalgren
Other countries are allowed to do this, we have to give Iran the benefit of the doubt. Khamenei is in charge of Iran and he appears to have no desire to attack anyone...
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 10:06 AM
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4. Aside from the fact it is Iran's "INALIENABLE RIGHT" under the NNPT
to go after nuclear energy.

Iran is not breaking the law nor violating the NNPT.

Until and unless they do, they have the inalienable right to do exactly as they are doing, and UN sanctions against them are, in fact, illegal.

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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 10:23 AM
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5. Excellent point and on target! Thanks...
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MarkR1717 Donating Member (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 12:29 AM
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12. No one knows for certain when William Buckley did die.....
.....The likeliest date is sometime during the night of June 3, 1985, the 444th day of his captivity.

http://www.canadafreepress.com/2006/thomas102506.htm
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TimmyTims Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 10:36 PM
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10. Nukes
Problem is Iran is an expert at using terror proxies.

No fingerprints. Combine that with nukes and we've got a problem.

It's not to be poo pooed or dismissed.

Israel will have to act one way or another, as the president of Iran has made his feelings known.
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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 01:02 PM
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6. What history are you talking about?
When has Iran shown aggression toward another country that did not attack them first? I am not talking about a bunch of radicals that overrun an American embassy but an official act of government..
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nels25 Donating Member (636 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 02:00 PM
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7. My point was of a more general nature
I agree 100% that Iran has no history that I am aware of expansion or being belligerent.

However when a leader talks about wiping out another sovereign nation,it behooves us to consider that they may mean it.

At the risk of being boorish, if some had considered that Mr. Shucklegruber (AKA: Hitler) was serious about what he spoke and wrote maybe a lot of bad things could have been averted.

Also consider that if some had payed closer attention to the advisor's around Bush then we may have less problems than we do.

There are to many people talking bellicose in the Iran leadership for my liking.

:hi:
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gmpierce Donating Member (72 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 05:58 PM
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8. So pay close attention --
If Amadinejad had actually spoken of wiping out another sovereign nation (i.e. Israel) there would be definite cause for concern. But there are people who have made a fairly solid case that his statements were deliberately mis-translated.

He obviously does not like Israel, but in a political sense, his correctly translated statement was simply that the current Israeli government should cease to exist. There are a substantial number of Israeli citizens who would also like to see regime change in Tel Aviv.
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bronxiteforever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 06:22 PM
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9. The bottom line is China owns us and the Russia/China partnership
Edited on Tue Mar-04-08 06:24 PM by bronxiteforever
is a result of GOP ineptitude and saber rattling again. So this is theoretical argument with the USA unable to enforce squat.
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 10:48 PM
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11. Especially when you add Pakistan into the equation.
Edited on Tue Mar-04-08 10:49 PM by BeHereNow
But then, no one really talks about that- do they?
WTF is up with all the Faux noise posters lately?
Iran, Iran, Iran....terra terra!
Fuck that, let's take a look at PAKISTAN!
BHN
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