Iraq war 'caused slowdown in the US'

[go west young man]

Source: The Australian

THE Iraq war has cost the US 50-60 times more than the Bush administration predicted and was a central cause of the sub-prime banking crisis threatening the world economy, according to Nobel Prize-winning economist Joseph Stiglitz.

The former World Bank vice-president yesterday said the war had, so far, cost the US something like $US3trillion ($3.3 trillion) compared with the $US50-$US60-billion predicted in 2003.

Australia also faced a real bill much greater than the $2.2billion in military spending reported last week by Australian Defence Force chief Angus Houston, Professor Stiglitz said, pointing to higher oil prices and other indirect costs of the wars.

Professor Stiglitz told the Chatham House think tank in London that the Bush White House was currently estimating the cost of the war at about $US500 billion, but that figure massively understated things such as the medical and welfare costs of US military servicemen.

The war was now the second-most expensive in US history after World War II and the second-longest after Vietnam, he said.



Read more: http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,23286149-2703,00.html

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Hoping to get DU'ers back on message with antiwar fever this morning as I am personally quite sick of all the sheeple at DU constantly going on about Obama and Hillary. We need to get our eye's back on the ball and away from what Chris Matthews and the rest of the MSM talking heads are feeding us.

[tekisui]

1. Repeat after me: Republican War Recession.

[femrap]

18. Maybe Republican War Depression is

more likely....these neocons are evil sadists.

[AzDar]

2. K & R...

:kick:

[go west young man]

3. Economist: War to cost $3.5 trillion

Source: http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080229/POLITICS/802290353/1020/NATION

Nobel economist tells Congress about impact of war that White House said would cost $60B.
Bob Deans / Cox News Service
WASHINGTON -- The Iraq war will cost Americans between $3 trillion and $5 trillion, including military spending, broader economic costs and decades of benefits and medical care for combat veterans, a Nobel prize-winning economist told the Joint Economic Committee on Thursday.

The upper end of the estimate is nearly double what the same economist, Joseph Stiglitz, projected two years ago. He attributed the dramatic increase to the continuing intensity of the war, which began five years ago next month, and the likelihood that operations there would continue for at least another year.

The war's gravest toll has been paid in blood. Fighting in Iraq has so far taken the lives of 3,973 U.S. troops and left nearly 29,300 wounded. Its staggering expense, however, has dwarfed the 2003 White House war estimate of $60 billion, and the price is rising.



Read more: The Economist

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The truth coming to light.

[tekisui]

4. The estimates just keep going up. It could end up even higher.

[LynnTheDem]

5. The loss of honor & respect around the world...

Priceless.

[OwnedByFerrets]

11. Pisses me off...

when they conveniently forget about the ONE MILLION Iraqi's dead..

"The war's gravest toll has been paid in blood. Fighting in Iraq has so far taken the lives of 3,973 U.S. troops and left nearly 29,300 wounded. Its staggering expense, however, has dwarfed the 2003 White House war estimate of $60 billion, and the price is rising."

[skepticscott]

21. Also forgotten

are the uncounted thousands of American soldiers who have been psychologically scarred by the war, many beyond recovery at the hands of a government that would like to deny such damage even exists. Not to mention all of the families that have been ripped apart by the war, both financially and emotionally. And whatever of that has happened to Americans, multiply it many times for the Iraqis that we were supposedly there to save.

[NJCher]

6. anybody remember?

Anyone remember that astrological profile that was posted here (numerous times) about bush? It was written about four or five years ago and said he would be the biggest disaster ever and would not only tear down the U.S. but the world, too.

It was published at some site like "educate yourself" or something along that line.

Now that I look back on it and all that has developed, I am amazed at how well that astrologer put it.

I think the astrologer said that bush had been a disaster as a leader in his other lifetimes, too.

Cher

[femrap]

19. I'd love to read that...I never saw it. nt

[NJCher]

63. found it

Here it is:

http://educate-yourself.org/cn/gwbhoroscope11nov04.shtml

Some choice excerpts:
Destructive forces are so strong around him that he may actually destroy more than you can believe: he has already been participant of the destruction of a civilization – or a planet – in one of his previous incarnations. (He is not conscious of this trait in himself at all, though. As far as we know, he nearly destroyed a company or two before he became US president).

It is very likely that he has been an Arab in more than one life, and an important Native American in another life – betraying his people/tribe to the white man/the Westerners. He has also been one of those who massacred Indians in America. The karma of believing that America would be is the land of the white conquerors has been with him for many lives already (indeed, he is one man who has spent a great deal of time in North America in other lives). The only good thing that can be said about him is that he truly loves his country and his family.

This idea that America (the USA, specifically) is a unit that belongs mainly to the (white) people who founded it is coming to a close in this lifetime. However: he will be forced to realize that since land has been stolen from the Native Americans, white civilization must give it back some time – in a way (Or perhaps found new countries upon its dissolution, based upon ideas closer to Indian values.) Indeed, it is possible that the whole country will break up under or soon after his second term (see later), which he is probably not going to complete in office.

He is bound to be sacrificed by those that move him, which experience will change him deeply and force him to come to realizations from unseen quarters – but this realization may only mature by as late as 2011. We do not think he will be killed, but he may perhaps stay in confinement for a while, and it is certain that he will have to face some sort of judgment for his deeds. He will face the wrath of people for wars, the economic collapse and for his lies – which he believes have been committed for the sake of the nation.






Cher

[femrap]

65. Cher...thank you

for finding this. Astrology is not as silly as some want us to believe.

[HowHasItComeToThis]

69. THANKS FOR THE SOURCE ARTICLE

[proud2BlibKansan]

72. How many lives does he have left?

:scared:

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

78. He's been Bush and Hoover. Is it counted like cats?

[progressoid]

73. Well, that really educated me.

But I just had a full frontal lobotomy so I'll buy anything.

[sce56]

24. Here was a Damm good prediction back in January 2001, The Onion

And this was posted here just the other day I guess with the LieBold video.
http://www.theonion.com/content/node/28784

WASHINGTON, DC–Mere days from assuming the presidency and closing the door on eight years of Bill Clinton, president-elect George W. Bush assured the nation in a televised address Tuesday that "our long national nightmare of peace and prosperity is finally over."


President-elect Bush vows that "together, we can put the triumphs of the recent past behind us."
"My fellow Americans," Bush said, "at long last, we have reached the end of the dark period in American history that will come to be known as the Clinton Era, eight long years characterized by unprecedented economic expansion, a sharp decrease in crime, and sustained peace overseas. The time has come to put all of that behind us."

Bush swore to do "everything in power" to undo the damage wrought by Clinton's two terms in office, including selling off the national parks to developers, going into massive debt to develop expensive and impractical weapons technologies, and passing sweeping budget cuts that drive the mentally ill out of hospitals and onto the street.

During the 40-minute speech, Bush also promised to bring an end to the severe war drought that plagued the nation under Clinton, assuring citizens that the U.S. will engage in at least one Gulf War-level armed conflict in the next four years.

"You better believe we're going to mix it up with somebody at some point during my administration," said Bush, who plans a 250 percent boost in military spending. "Unlike my predecessor, I am fully committed to putting soldiers in battle situations. Otherwise, what is the point of even having a military?"

On the economic side, Bush vowed to bring back economic stagnation by implementing substantial tax cuts, which would lead to a recession, which would necessitate a tax hike, which would lead to a drop in consumer spending, which would lead to layoffs, which would deepen the recession even further.

Wall Street responded strongly to the Bush speech, with the Dow Jones industrial fluctuating wildly before closing at an 18-month low. The NASDAQ composite index, rattled by a gloomy outlook for tech stocks in 2001, also fell sharply, losing 4.4 percent of its total value between 3 p.m. and the closing bell.

Asked for comment about the cooling technology sector, Bush said: "That's hardly my area of expertise."

Turning to the subject of the environment, Bush said he will do whatever it takes to undo the tremendous damage not done by the Clinton Administration to the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. He assured citizens that he will follow through on his campaign promise to open the 1.5 million acre refuge's coastal plain to oil drilling. As a sign of his commitment to bringing about a change in the environment, he pointed to his choice of Gale Norton for Secretary of the Interior. Norton, Bush noted, has "extensive experience" fighting environmental causes, working as a lobbyist for lead-paint manufacturers and as an attorney for loggers and miners, in addition to suing the EPA to overturn clean-air standards.

Bush had equally high praise for Attorney General nominee John Ashcroft, whom he praised as "a tireless champion in the battle to protect a woman's right to give birth."

"Soon, with John Ashcroft's help, we will move out of the Dark Ages and into a more enlightened time when a woman will be free to think long and hard before trying to fight her way past throngs of protesters blocking her entrance to an abortion clinic," Bush said. "We as a nation can look forward to lots and lots of babies."



Soldiers at Ft. Bragg march lockstep in preparation for America's return to aggression.
Continued Bush: "John Ashcroft will be invaluable in healing the terrible wedge President Clinton drove between church and state."

The speech was met with overwhelming approval from Republican leaders.

"Finally, the horrific misrule of the Democrats has been brought to a close," House Majority Leader Dennis Hastert (R-IL) told reporters. "Under Bush, we can all look forward to military aggression, deregulation of dangerous, greedy industries, and the defunding of vital domestic social-service programs upon which millions depend. Mercifully, we can now say goodbye to the awful nightmare that was Clinton's America."

"For years, I tirelessly preached the message that Clinton must be stopped," conservative talk-radio host Rush Limbaugh said. "And yet, in 1996, the American public failed to heed my urgent warnings, re-electing Clinton despite the fact that the nation was prosperous and at peace under his regime. But now, thank God, that's all done with. Once again, we will enjoy mounting debt, jingoism, nuclear paranoia, mass deficit, and a massive military build-up."

An overwhelming 49.9 percent of Americans responded enthusiastically to the Bush speech.

"After eight years of relatively sane fiscal policy under the Democrats, we have reached a point where, just a few weeks ago, President Clinton said that the national debt could be paid off by as early as 2012," Rahway, NJ, machinist and father of three Bud Crandall said. "That's not the kind of world I want my children to grow up in."

"You have no idea what it's like to be black and enfranchised," said Marlon Hastings, one of thousands of Miami-Dade County residents whose votes were not counted in the 2000 presidential election. "George W. Bush understands the pain of enfranchisement, and ever since Election Day, he has fought tirelessly to make sure it never happens to my people again."

Bush concluded his speech on a note of healing and redemption.

"We as a people must stand united, banding together to tear this nation in two," Bush said. "Much work lies ahead of us: The gap between the rich and the poor may be wide, be there's much more widening left to do. We must squander our nation's hard-won budget surplus on tax breaks for the wealthiest 15 percent. And, on the foreign front, we must find an enemy and defeat it."

"The insanity is over," Bush said. "After a long, dark night of peace and stability, the sun is finally rising again over America. We look forward to a bright new dawn not seen since the glory days of my dad."

[CONN]

82. Thanks for sharing....

and wow

[proud2BlibKansan]

25. He's had OTHER lifetimes?

:scared:

[JerseygirlCT]

52. I'm just surprised he came back as a human, and not

the pond scum he really is.

[enid602]

77. some way

Is there some way we can make sure he doesn't come back again?

[proud2BlibKansan]

83. MTE

My thoughts exactly. :scared:

[applegrove]

7. It is a supply shock that may lead to stagflation. Same as the Vietnam War in the 1970s.

[femrap]

20. But now food prices are

skyrocketing. Wheat has never been over $20/bushel...it was up to $24 this past week. Corn, too. Plant a garden!

[applegrove]

47. Terrible. What * will leave the country in. What a mess.

[tabasco]

8. Wolfowitz said the war would pay for itself!

Due to his brilliance, Bush made him Prez of the World Bank!

No wonder they pushed him out. Every thing the Bushies touch turns to feces.

[beltanefauve]

12. Wolfowitz was replaced

by Robert Zoelleck, who unfortunately is another PNAC signatory. The replacement was bait-and-switch.:mad:

www.newamericancentury.org
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century

[sce56]

22. The Sadim touch!

The Sadim touch is the opposite of the Midas touch. With the Midas touch, everything you touch turns to gold. With the Sadim touch, you ruin everything you touch.

[kevinmc]

9. back on message with antiwar fever --- I agree n/t

[aasleka]

10. It was going to pay for itself and where did the cash go?

[uppityperson]

13. War profiteers make brazilions, rest flail. k&r

[pacalo]

14. I participated in a non-partisan-like, automated voter poll on the phone the other evening

& there were several questions about the invasion's war's relation to the economy, as well as the economy in general:

Do you believe we are in a recession? yes

Do you believe that the money spent on the Iraq war would have been better spent on domestic programs in the U.S.? yes

Do you believe that ending the Iraq invasion war would improve the U.S. economy? yes

Do you believe that spending money on U.S. infrastructures would improve the economy? somewhat (why would they pull out infrastructure improvements above other priorities; I answered "somewhat" because it would create jobs)

Do you believe that raising taxes would improve the economy? somewhat (my "somewhat" was referring to the top 1% of the wealthy)

Do you believe that lowering taxes for the lower income will improve the economy? yes

[Turbineguy]

15. Oh yeah?

That's just another Nobel Prize winner shooting off his mouth! What does he know?:sarcasm: :sarcasm:

[zonkers]

16. But I thought the Iraqi oil would cover the cost of the war?

[ooglymoogly]

17. Puke trickle down, war economy = trickle down shit for the people

of this country. I for one do not watch the wall to wall propaganda loop of corporate crappola.

[proud2BlibKansan]

23. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

and Amen.

[killbotfactory]

26. The war was designed to bankrupt the US government

While enriching a few businesses in the defense and energy industries.

These people are ruthless criminals.

[BeHereNow]

34. Exactly.

And prepare to be Katrina'd.'
The criminals are about to exit stage right.

The theatre is on fire, the doors are locked
and the audience is watching congress investigate
baseball.

BHN

[CubicleGuy]

27. Incompetence on an unprecedented scale

THE Iraq war has cost the US 50-60 times more than the Bush administration predicted

I can understand how cost estimates in the corporate world might be off by a factor as high as maybe two or three but being wrong by a factor of 50 or 60 would be unbelievable. Stockholders and board of director types would be demanding answers as to how on Earth such an underestimate would be possible. And after the answers were received, they'd demand your head on a platter.

But the Bush administration continues to ladle out the lies and the incompetence, and does Congress do anything about it? Of course not.

Fire 'em all, and get some people in there who will demand accountability.

[sakabatou]

28. Gee...

NO SHIT SHERLOCK.

[greyghost]

29. It's going to be a fucking world wide depression my friends and

there's not a fucking thing Bush Co and the Cons can do to stop it now.

Their last ditch effort was going after Iran but they don't have enough left in the tank to do it.

Is this country FINALLY going to wake up and make these warmongering scum pay?

[RaleighNCDUer]

48. But what they WILL do

is blame it on the incoming Democratic administration. They'll cook the numbers to pretend that everything was hunky-dory until November 08 - then, as soon as the country found out that Democrats were taking over everything went to hell.

[greyghost]

62. LOL! They'll need a miracle for that one to work.

[Trajan]

30. While I agree that Iraq War spending helped very few Americans other than GOP supporters ....

I think it is wrong to blame THAT as the cause of our economic troubles, while allowing what I believe to be the REAL cause; The decades-long GOP fight against American worker wages and compensation, to be ignored or let off the hook ....

If they would PAY workers at levels commensurate with actual inflation, then no mortgages would go unpaid ..... no children would be left behind ....

The spending on the Iraq War is one kind of economic loss, but the economic loss felt at the street level is due to conservative economic policies that deny adequate compensation for workers, and which strangle economic activity in the crib, cutting off the buying power of American families, and reducing demand for goods across the board .... They are strangling growth by killing the roots of wealth ....

ALL this while allowing energy and food costs to skyrocket - And THESE numbskulls are supposed to be 'better' for our economy than Liberals ? .....

BULLSHIT - It is 1928 all over again ....

[fascisthunter]

31. Time to Go After Those That Profited

day of reckoning should be placed upon those that created this. Why should the World pay for a measly few?

[cstanleytech]

33. You mean those who

may have profited illegally with no bid contracts for example, right?

[cstanleytech]

32. We have been in other wars though

so I am not sure that I can agree with their conclusions that it is the cause of the slowdown.
It sure as hell did not help of course but I am leaning towards the government not keeping a tighter handle on lenders in granting home loans as the real main cause.

[bvar22]

81. True. We have been through other wars, BUT....

...this is the FIRST war where the government has LOWERED TAXES on the RICH, borrowed the money from a foreign country, paid off the War Profiteers with borrowed foreign money, AND sent the BILL + INTEREST to your children.

[ima_sinnic]

35. I defy any repuke sympathizer, bush-lover, freeper, etc. to justify this

when I see shit like this I have to wonder what the goddam a-hole lurking bushophiles must think of it. hey, your hero is shit! because of him--no, because of YOU, IGNORAMUS, YOU voting for him and believing his lies that were so transparent a fucking imbecile could see through them--because of your stupid vote, food prices are skyrocketing, gas prices are skyrocketing, people are losing their homes, people are losing their jobs, and we are about to enter a depression that will make the Great Depression look like a goddam picnic. A million dead Iraqis--but at least they can't "follow us here," eh?

but don't let reality get in the way of your love affair with THE most incompetent, evil, GREEDY, lying son of a bitch that ever cheated his way into office. He's yours, deal with it SCUM. And don't say we didn't warn you. I still have your e-mails that overflowed my inbox, cursing me out when that stinking scumball Neal Boortz printed my e-mail address in his column after I told him what a dumbshit he and his listeners were. I said you'd still love bushy even if he raped a child in a football stadium full of tens of thousands of people. Well, you would, wouldn't you, you sad sacks of shit, so stupid you don't recognize a fucking imposter, a CON ARTIST when you see one? :grr:

[Kindigger]

41. ......

:headbang:

[Rockholm]

36. Duh.

[lovuian]

37. This President and Congress has put Americans in such DEBT

because of the Iraq War and the World isn't tolerating it anymore

[Counciltucky]

38. Good fuckin' criminy -- that's $10,000 per person!

I for one don't want to pay $10,000 to reimburse for a war that I never supported in the first place and was based on lies and deceit and attempts at political gain.

[UncleSepp]

84. Weird... That's about how much in the hole I am now

... from where I would normally expect to be. Thanks, big war!

[bulloney]

39. And so, why are we to believe President Dufus when he tells us things like the surge is working, or

the economy is not in recession, or the wiretap bill is actually needed for preventing terrorist attacks on U.S. soil, and on and on.

These guys are such pathological liars, they wouldn't know the truth if it bit them in the ass.

And yet, I live in an area where people will beligerently support Bush and condemn you for suggesting that the Democrats can do better.

[DaveJ]

44. I hope you are fighting back

As you said, they are liars. I know because it's a common trait among Republicans these days. Any decent Republican would have switched sides by now.

So, chances are, these people lie in their non-political affairs as well. Don't take it. They are the ones who ought to be marginalized, not us.

[bulloney]

76. You keep coming back at them with facts.

They get angry, but when you have facts and documentation to back it up, that's all they can do.

This website is a great source of information to refute these Bush supporters' preconceptions on the issues.

[No Blood for Hubris]

40. Bush ruined our country with Iraq. Can the Hillary-haters stop trying to pin his war

on her?

How crazy can people get?

[AntiFascist]

42. K&R, this is the primary reason why many Republicans should not support McCain...

in the GE, and why many fiscal conservatives should consider Obama.

[pleah]

43. Ding!ding!ding! K&R! Will our candidates running for president listen?

Really listen? I hope so.

[Bilbo Heugan]

45. Best economic stimulus package possible !

End the wars NOW. Close most foreign US military bases. Cut the "defense" budget to an amount sufficient only for a top notch DOMESTIC military operation. I've got more ideas, but that's a start. Turn energy concerns to development of alternative energy technologies. For instance, India's Tata Motors sells a vehicle that runs on COMPRESSED AIR. Hell, I would like to use a home air compressor to fill my car's fuel tank.

[Uncle Joe]

46. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, go west young man.

[LLee]

49. Iraq war 'caused slowdown in the US'

What can one expect as Bush gave tax cuts to the very wealth and at the same time started this invasion/massacre now occupation that costs what, 3 to 6 billion a month? Plus with NAFTA we are losing jobs AND a blind eye is turned from the corporate powers that be hiring undocumented, therefore displacing more out of a job. And with Greenspan's great actions that brought on the sub prime mortgage scam.. we are sctrewed. But wait! The corporate powers that be are doing just fine. OUR treasury has been robbed and transferred to these corporations. Could Bush and the neocons have done a better job of this if all this was planned? Was it planned? There are a ton of videos on youtube of Bush Sr. talking about New World Order.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbRp7xlhgbo

[L0oniX]

50. In other words George Asscarrot Bush caused the slow down.n/t

[UALRBSofL]

51. I don't understand why that didn't see this coming long ago

Didn't they see what happened to Russia after invading Afghanistan and occupying for 9 years what happened to there economy? I mean they should have planned in advance. However, were dealing with a president that's not very bright.

[54anickel]

53. Looks like another point for the OBL column (for those keeping score) n/t

[idovoodoo]

54. It's NOT a WAR! (sorry not shouting at you) It's a OCCUPATION following an INVASION

of a SOVEREIGN COUNTRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[go west young man]

56. Don't worry about that I totally agree with you.

[lutefisk]

57. Nope, it's not a war. It's a treasonous con game by war criminals.

At least that's how I see it.

[salinen]

55. Yeah but

when Exxon mobile shell arco start selling that Iraqi oil, we'll see gas go from $4 per gallon to $6 per gallon.

[McCamy Taylor]

58. If Ralph Nader is reading this, I predicted this in a letter I wrote to you in early 2001

It was signed with my real name. In the letter I wrote that under Bush we could expect a war against brown people and an engineered recession that would cost Americans their homes and savings and drive us closer to the Great Depression that the Melons and Scaiffes had planned to take advantage of---setting up a fascist/oligarchy and concentrating all the true wealth and power in the country in the hands of a few untouchables---that FDR had prevented back in the 1930s.

When Nader was saying "Bush equals Gore" I knew exactly what Bush and Co. had planned. If Nader understood politics, he would have known, too.

If Ralph Nader is reading this I hope he realizes that some people know more about politics than he does, and that he should forget about his presidential ambitions and go back to doing what he does best---protecting the consumer--and leave politics to those of us who know what the hell is going on.

It does not take a degree in anything to understand what has happened--or to predict what was going to happen. All you had to do was read Tom Paine. I wonder if Nader has ever bothered to do that.

[Wapsie B]

59. So much for this mentality of war being good for the economy.

People cannot understand that what happened during WWII and shortly after does not apply today. It does not put vast numbers of people to work for the war effort. It puts $$$ in the pockets of war profiteers.

[mreilly]

60. This is why Republicans shouldn't even be running for election

It's truly amazing to me that any Republican nation-wide is running for election or re-election, and if more Americans didn't have their heads up their asses that wouldn't even be happening. All of the crap going on now, with the Iraq War, the recession, pollution, global warming, and everything else? Caused by Republicans. Supported by Republicans. Enthusiastically promoted by Republicans. It's all at their door.

Why are these worthless shitholes actually daring to run for office this year?

I'm sorry, but anyone who still supports these people needs to take out one of their precious handguns - you know, the things that mean more to these ignorant turds than life itself - load it up with one bullet, put the barrel in their mouth and pull the trigger, thereby contributing more to the world than they ever would have in life.

[Seabiscuit]

66. "if more Americans didn't have their heads up their asses..."

That's the whole problem. Most Americans still seem to have their heads up their asses about this war and its effect on the economy both here and in the rest of the world.

If they did a Republican wouldn't dare show his face in public long enough to get a political campaign started.

[texastoast]

61. Richardson's #1 priority was to get out of Iraq

He understood that if we don't stop playing world police, we little folks are screwn.


Oh, but too bad. he just wasn't glammy enough.

[jeff30997]

64. "Iraq war 'caused slowdown in the US'"

Ahhhh! Poor US!:cry: :sarcasm:

[whistle]

67. It is not even a "guns or butter" economic issue, this war has been deliberately

...pursued to bankrupt America and is thus treason

[denem]

68. Bush-McCain War Recession

is more effective. There are many fiscally conservative Republicans who are looking to jump ship.

[12string]

70. mccain

there are far too many that will not vote for a woman or a black.it is not going to be a cakewalk come november.

[go west young man]

71. Link to Democracy Now interview with Joseph Stiglitz.

http://www.democracynow.org/2008/2/29/exclusive_the_three_trillion_dollar_war

[shadowknows69]

74. All together now

YA THINK????

[workinclasszero]

75. No! You mean our Great Leader lied to us??? /sarcasm

"THE Iraq war has cost the US 50-60 times more than the Bush administration predicted"

Lets see McCain wants to stay in Iraq for a hundred years at 11 billion a month, not counting inflation...

Oh yeah and the war he plans with Iran, another 11 billion a month I guess...

Well, according to my calculations, America is SCREWED, BLUED, and TATTOOED!

We had better get behind the dem nominee 1000 percent this fall like our lives depended on it because they do!

[treestar]

79. And McBush would keep it going

until we "win."

[FlyingSquirrel]

80. NSS n/t