College, Military Records Clash With Writers' Guild President's Statements

[NNN0LHI]

http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGAI9PZJKPD.html

LOS ANGELES (AP) - Official records show no evidence that the new president of the Hollywood writers' union served in an elite Army Special Forces unit or attended college on a football scholarship as he claims, according to a newspaper report.

The Los Angeles Times reported Saturday that while Charles D. Holland served in the military and attended the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, records show evidence of neither Special Forces service nor a college football career.

Holland stood by the statements, saying that the documents proving his Special Forces services are classified and that he played football under a different name.

"People will have to believe what they believe," he said of the military records. "They'll either believe that I lied or I have to commit a federal felony and release classified information."

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[pfitz59]

1. Resume inflation...

The Viagara of job-hunting. Happens all the time...

[IndianaGreen]

2. If he can't produce a DD-214

then he didn't serve. The DD-214 will list all of his decorations as well as his MOS.

Looks like another case of padding a resume.

On edit:

There was a fire at the National Personnel Records Center in 1973 which destroyed many records that can never be recovered. One could claim service during that period of time, and also say that one doesn't have any personal records (including DD-214), and it would be hard to disprove one did not serve--unless someone that served in the same unit comes forward and vouches that the service claim is fraudulent.

More info:

The 1973 Fire at the Natl Personnel Records Center (MPR)
On July 12, 1973, a disastrous fire at NPRC(MPR) destroyed approximately 16-18 million Official Military Personnel Files. The affected record collections are described below.

Branch Personnel and Period Affected Estimated Loss
Army Personnel discharged November 1, 1912, to January 1, 1960 80%
Air Force Personnel discharged, September 25, 1947, to January 1, 1964
(with names alphabetically after Hubbard, James E.)
75%

No duplicate copies of the records that were destroyed in the fire were maintained, nor was a microfilm copy ever produced. There were no indexes created prior to the fire. In addition, millions of documents had been lent to the Department of Veterans Affairs before the fire occurred. Therefore, a complete listing of the records that were lost is not available.

http://www.members.aol.com/forvets/htomr.htm

[aquart]

3. Do they NOW keep duplicate records?

You know, like on a computer?

[BOHICA06]

4. 44-years old

Earliest he could have served is 1977 - after the fire. All DD214s are filed with your State of Residence (no option) and County of Residence if you so designated.

SF designations and service are not classified - yeah missions & activities are, but stations of record & MOS (military occupation specialty) are not.

POSER!!!!!

[TacticalPeek]

7. I could be wrong, but I've always thought

that separate pay records stored at Finance could be used to establish some things, including jump, dive pay, etc.?

[BOHICA06]

8. St. Louis for

Personel and Indianapolis for Finance - you are correct.

[TacticalPeek]

5. Lotsa wannabes.

This link has contact info that can verify former members of the operator community.

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Updated: 01-14-2004
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[bobbieinok]

6. waiting....for ... the.... investigation.... of ......aWol....waiting.....

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