Former U.S. Presidential Candidate Urges Bush's Impeachment (McGovern)

[Hissyspit]

Source: AFP

Former US presidential candidate urges Bush's impeachment

WASHINGTON (AFP) — Former US presidential candidate George McGovern on Sunday called for President George W. Bush and Vice President Richard Cheney to be impeached, saying the case for such a dramatic step "is far stronger" than it was against former disgraced president Richard Nixon.

A former US congressman and senator, McGovern was the Democratic Party's presidential nominee in 1972, but lost the election to incumbent Richard Nixon, who was forced to resign amid the Watergate scandal in 1974.

Writing in The Washington Post, McGovern said that after the 1972 election, he stood clear of calls to impeach Nixon because he was afraid it would be interpreted as an act of personal vengeance. But "today I have made a different choice," the prominent Democrat points out. "The case for impeaching Bush and Cheney is far stronger than was the case against Nixon and Vice President Spiro Agnew after the 1972 election."

- snip -

He cites as evidence the invasion of Iraq under the pretext of removing its non-existent weapons of mass destruction, "illegal tapping" of citizens' telephones by government agents, and shipping of war-on-terror prisoners for interrogation to other countries without respect for the laws of habeas corpus.

Read more: http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5hzTs98zoYaBYRhIUf8MGTKtMvxrg

[wake.up.america]

1. I am afraid the war criminals in the White House will waltz home free.

[BigBearJohn]

2. Kicked and Recommended. They're hiding each other's crimes. That's all.

[RuleOfNah]

3. Stronger than the case against Nixon.

Fake WMD, countrytap, torture. That's all?

:popcorn:

[Swagman]

4. he says much more..

"McGovern insisted that Bush and Cheney were guilty of numerous impeachable offenses and the country was "much more secure and productive under a Nixon presidency" than under Bush's.

"They have repeatedly violated the Constitution," McGovern writes of Bush and Cheney. "They have transgressed national and international law. They have lied to the American people time after time. Their conduct and their barbaric policies have reduced our beloved country to a historic low in the eyes of people around the world."

[RuleOfNah]

6. What, no Abramoffgate, Mercenariesgate, Plamegate?

Maybe the wheels of justice have been jammed by the plethora of perpetrations?

:popcorn:

[maseman]

61. Don't forget

Katrina and the destruction of CIA torture tapes.

[RuleOfNah]

68. And Pakigate, Mortgate, Votegate...

:dilemma:

[Mithreal]

5. Thank you, Senator McGovern

They say they don't have the numbers, it would be a distraction from their more serious(?)work, make them seem petty, partisan and vengeful, or potentially lose them an upcoming election, but their unwillingness to check the Bush administration for its crimes just lets us know they do not have the courage to protect the constitution and are undeserving of positions to which we have elected them. Did I get all the excuses?

[Binka]

8. Great Reply

Welcome to DU Mithreal. Welcome friend. :applause:

[vssmith]

10. I like petty, I like partisan, I like vengeful

[MadMaddie]

59. Welcome to DU!

:hi:

[arcos]

7. K&R nt

[DeeDeeNY]

9. Stronger than the case against Nixon

And not even in the same stratosphere as Monica.

[panzerfaust]

26. ... or than Clinton even. (GREAT screen shot you have)!

I clicked on it, but Windoz seems to be locked-up again and the button does not work.

[Douglas Carpenter]

11. exactly

"The case for impeaching Bush and Cheney is far stronger than was the case against Nixon and Vice President Spiro Agnew after the 1972 election." - Sen. and Ambassador George McGovern

[DutchLiberal]

12. Where are the current presidential candidates when it comes to impeachment?

Only Dennis Kucinich is supporting impeachment and is actively trrying to impeach Cheney.

[Seabiscuit]

23. I don't recall any of them being asked about impeachment at any of the debates. n/t

[DutchLiberal]

40. Of course not, the MSM would never allow that. And STILL, Kucinich spoke out in favor

of impeaching Bush and Cheney. Kucinich raised the issue when the MSM and other candidates ignored it.

[FogerRox]

67. Only Dennis ? Sorry thats getting real old at this point.

Never heard of Waxman ?

"Only Dennis"...... Get off your high horse and post something accurate.

How many co -sponsors does Dennis's impeachment res have ?

[DutchLiberal]

69. Out of all the presidential candidates, Kucinich is the only one.

And no need to be so angry. Relax.

[RoccoR5955]

13. WE THE PEOPLE want, nay, DEMAND...

Investigation, Impeachment, and Incarceration!
Justice MUST be served!

[jeff30997]

14. K&R

They are worst than crooks,they are monsters dammit!

[curiousdemo]

15. I concur with everything he said....

These thugs in the White House should be impeached and thrown in jail. :kick:

[rockybelt]

19. They deserve far worse than being thrown in jail. nt

[sellitman]

16. I'd like our candidates to "chime in"

Know what I mean Vern?

[dmosh42]

17. I completely agree, but good luck on that!...

All the logic points to doing this, but I have the feeling the Dem leadership is worried about their exposure in any investigations or hearings. They were complicit and facilitated the way for these war criminals in the administration. At least this is the only reason I can see for their avoidance of doing this. Legislation is being blocked, so what other constructive things can be done? Go get them!

[Stuart G]

18. I second this, K and R.. but.

Mc Govern is correct. But will anyone follow?

[rockybelt]

20. Please sign up

if you already haven't for Congressman Wexler's petition drive on the impeachment of Cheney.
Sign up here http://wexlerwantshearings.com
181,030

[Vogon_Glory]

21. Gerge McGovern Calls For Impeachment. In Your Hearts, You Know He's...

George McGovern calls for GW Bush's and Richard Cheney's impeachment. In your heads as well as in your hearts, you know he's right.

O8) :patriot:

[Voltaire99]

22. One of the last great Democrats.

And it's really been heartwarming to see how the party called on you for guidance over the past thirty years, George.

[demnan]

24. I asked two of our candidates directly whether they were for it

back in April - Edwards avoided the issue and Kucinich talked about how we would have to go about it, not in anger but out of love for our country. But a week later he introduced articles of impeachment against Cheney.

[panzerfaust]

25. I am happy to say that I (finally) voted for him for president

He was, of course, vilified during the campaign as a 'cut-and-run' Democrat since, having actual combat experience (WW2 bomber pilot), he knew what a futile travesty the Viet Nam War was, and had introduced legislation to withdraw all the troops.

The only dishonorable thing I know him to have done was to dump Eagleton as VP candidate after the campaign had started as Eagleton had been treated long in the past for depression with ECT. Damn near did not vote for him after that - but he was running against Nixon, so ...

In any event, he was right about Viet Nam then, and he is right about the Bush Coup Group now.

He will have no more success in being listened to now than he did then.

At least he has had the courage to speak up.

[barbtries]

57. i was only 17 and couldn't vote

and i passionately wanted mcgovern to win. i remember about eagleton, and look at us now: two very sick puppies running the show.

[yojon]

27. Tech Support!!

George must not be on Nancy Pelosi's email distribution list. Better get that fixed before he continues to shoot his mouth off......

[jtrockville]

28. The article covered almost the ENTIRE front of WaPo's outlook section.

It was written in white letters on black background. VERY eye-catching.

[LeftishBrit]

29. McGovern is a good man.

I wish he'd been able to defeat Nixon!

[MadMaddie]

60. And that slight twist in history may have led our country down

a different path.

Without Nixon, no Rumsfeld, No Cheney and all of the other Treasonous traitors to the US Constitution.

[ohio2007]

30. How old is McGovern? 100 ?

gotta be up there since he was active in the 60's political arena

[panzerfaust]

31. "gotta be ... [as] active in the 60's". So were a lot of us ...

You might want to work on your math skills.

Even if he were 100: Would that make him Wrong?

[Faygo Kid]

36. He's 85. Got a problem with that?

He's also an American hero, and I'm proud to have worked for him and cast my first presidential ballot for him.

[ohio2007]

37. geez, a bit snippy in your old age

thought he would be much older then Carter, I didn't know you would blow a gasket fagyokid.
eom

[FogerRox]

71. McGovern flew 35 missions in a B-24 Liberator in WW2

Carter is not from the WW2 generation.

[NBachers]

32. Whatever happened to Kim Agnew?

So whatever happened to Kim Agnew, America's favorite war-protesting, Spiro-angering, vice-presidential daughter?

[panzerfaust]

33. Don't know ... 67 to choose from though

Kim Agnew

[Le Taz Hot]

34. Well, he's old and everyone on DU knows

that old people shouldn't be taken seriously -- they just need to shut up and die and quit bothering the rest of us. :sarcasm:

[ChiciB1]

35. Thanks McGovern... But SCREW YOU TOO!! You Were My Very

first foray in to political campaigning and I thought you were a liberal and wanted a better America. Now I see, despite the fact that you still have "liberal leanings" you have lost my respect because YOU decided to join the Clinton bandwagon!

Goodbye George, and I wish it was BOTH OF YOU!!

[FogerRox]

72. Correct, I too canvassed for George in 72

[Senator]

38. Hello? Hillabamawards !?! Strategery Staffs ?!?

Can no one see the Golden Key to locking up the primary battle?

To claiming the mantle of Outsider Champion?

Probably not. A round of Cranial-Rectoscopies is truly in order.

Impeachment is the only way to Re-Unite Our Once-Great Nation.

--

[slipslidingaway]

39. Thanks K&R n/t

[maryallen]

41. A real public servant: Senator McGovern!

A truth-teller from way back ...

Listen up, America!

[wizstars]

42. Congress needs to hear some thought-provoking words from John Wayne:

"When you stand up for what's right, you sometimes show more bravery than any heavyweight champ in the ring. It's the coward who 'just goes along', and the world has enough cowards." -John Wayne.

So does Congress.

[solara]

43. K & R

:kick:



INVESTIGATE IMPEACH INDICT IMPRECATE INCARCERATE :patriot:

[grantcart]

44. Impeachment

isn't realistic but censoring the president is

[bjobotts]

45. The congress rushes to make Bush's criminal acts legal as Reid is doing now

with telecom amnesty. Pelosi and Reid have gone out of their way to keep the president from being impeached. They are complicit in his criminal activity as much as Gonzales or any of the others. There is no justice for those in power. The law only applies to the rest of us and all we will here from new dems when they win is let's put the past behind us. No accountability which translates into there will never ever be a president who will be impeached in the future if this administration gets away with their lawbreaking.

[L0oniX]

46. What ever ...Clinton will grant them amnesty anyway so why bother.

[LeftishBrit]

47. They would still end up in eternal disgrace..

and serve them right.

[Tom Rinaldo]

75. You do know that George McGovern has endorsed Hillary for President

Don't you?

[Sam Ervin jret]

48. Proudly from MASSACHUSETTS. The only non NIXON pro McGovern state

He was right then and he's right now.

[Sam Ervin jret]

49. Proudly from MASSACHUETTS. Pro McGovern then. He was right then and he's right now..

[Amerigo Vespucci]

50. McGovern: Time to impeach Bush

Source: CNN

WASHINGTON (CNN) – George McGovern, the Democratic Party's 1972 nominee for president, is calling on Congress to impeach President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney.

And in an editorial in Sunday's Washington Post, McGovern writes the case for impeaching the current president is "far stronger" than the case made against former President Richard Nixon — the man who soundly defeated McGovern in the general election match up.

"Bush and Cheney are clearly guilty of numerous impeachable offenses," McGovern writes. "They have repeatedly violated the Constitution. They have transgressed national and international law. They have lied to the American people time after time.

"Their conduct and their barbaric policies have reduced our beloved country to a historic low in the eyes of people around the world," he continued.

Read more: http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/06/mcgovern-time-to-impeach-bush/

[PDJane]

51. Long past time, but now will do. n/t

[gateley]

52. I hope his voice helps. nt

[upi402]

53. I figured he wanted them impeached but glad to see it made print n/t

[geiger]

54. sorry, but just like Kucinich, this guy has got no credibilty anymore....

[WheelWalker]

62. Please explain what

that's suppose to mean, if you can. "Credibility" is the quality of being believable or trustworthy. Are you saying George McGovern is not believable or trustworthy? In the context of his op-ed, what is that suppose to mean? Help me out here, please. Your statement strikes me as a glib generalization. On what do you base your statement that George McGovern is thought by others not to be believable or trustworthy? In making broad, unsubstantiated generalizations demeaning the veracity of one of our esteemed elder statesmen, I judge that it is you, madame, who has no credibility.

[Hissyspit]

66. Hunh?

Whatever...

[demnan]

55. I recommended earlier

but I'm back now to comment.

When I was 14 I read about the candidates in the 72 election. I admired George McGovern for his principles and for being against the war in Vietnam. My brother had had returned from Vietnam and disputed my father's distain for Jane Fonda. My brother defended her - he knew what a farce that war was. I wanted to do my part against that war and for the election and I begged my mother (who was voting for Nixon) to take me out to work the precinct on election day so I could hand out literature for McGovern. She did. My mother doesn't always agree with me but encouraged me in this conviction for something I felt deeply about.

Well I went out proudly campaigning for the finest man in my life who has ever run for office in my opinion. He is prinicipled, he is intelligent and he doesn't get caught up in emotional slogans. He is also a war hero. He wrote a book Out of Iraq two years ago which has a very sensable plan. He is 85 years old now.

Thank you George McGovern, for all you have done in public service. This is the caliber of public service we used to have in this country, but no longer have.

Nancy

[Faygo Kid]

56. Here's a link to the McGovern Center (museum and library)

http://mcgoverncenter.org/museum.htm

Those who discard George McGovern's entire life simply because of who he has endorsed this year are sorry excuses for progressives. I can disagree with him and still recognize his great and courageous contributions to this country. It's ironic that the New York Times has hired Bill Kristol - who has been wrong about almost everything - and no one hired George McGovern - who has throughout his life been right about almost everything.

George McGovern is a great American and an even better human being.

[defendandprotect]

58. McGovern is a voice for today, as well as yesterday -- and on getting out of Iraq --- !!

IMPEACHMENT ---

More necessary now than in '74 --- !!!

[Old and In the Way]

63. A truly great American.

Thanks George!

[clspector]

65. He was my first, too

>>Well I went out proudly campaigning for the finest man in my life who has ever run for office in my opinion. He is prinicipled, he is intelligent and he doesn't get caught up in emotional slogans. He is also a war hero. He wrote a book Out of Iraq two years ago which has a very sensable plan. He is 85 years old now.

Thank you George McGovern, for all you have done in public service. This is the caliber of public service we used to have in this country, but no longer have.

Nancy<<


I was twelve during the Nixon/McGovern campaign. I asked my parents to take me down to volunteer for the McGovern campaign. I helped stuff envelopes. Yeah, I was kid and they were probably just humoring me, but it made me feel like I was part of making a difference. But those were the kinds of people who worked for McGovern.

I second Nancy's heartfelt thank you to George McGovern.

[tom_paine]

64. How the hell did we let them smear McGovern, who was a WWII bomber pilot

as a coward while that spineless turd Nixon was protrayed as "brave" and "gutsy".

Sounds like 2004. I guess some things never change. Well, it's about time they did before the Old American Republic passed onto the ash-heap of history.

[David Zephyr]

70. I worked in the McGovern campaign in 1972 in New York (Catskills)

I have so much respect and affection for George McGovern. I am as proud of him today as I was all those years ago.

[tilsammans]

73. Very proud to have cast my very first vote . . .

. . . for George McGovern. To this day, I do not regret that choice. And I never will.

Thank you, Senator, for being a truly courageous and dedicated public servant.

:yourock:

[CRK7376]

74. Awesome opinion Senator McGovern!

I just wish more politicians had your courage. But then you are part of that "Greatest Generation"..flew B-24s out of Italy over other parts of occupied Europe to bomb German targets unlike our current crop of CHickenhawks....