Exclusive: Documents Expose Huckabee's Role In Murderer's Release

[antiimperialist]

Source: Huffington Post

December 4, 2007 11:18 PM

Little Rock, Ark -- As governor of Arkansas, Mike Huckabee aggressively pushed for the early release of a convicted rapist despite being warned by numerous women that the convict had sexually assaulted them or their family members, and would likely strike again. The convict went on to rape and murder at least one other woman.

Confidential Arkansas state government records, including letters from these women, obtained by the Huffington Post and revealed publicly for the first time, directly contradict the version of events now being put forward by Huckabee.

While on the campaign trail, Huckabee has claimed that he supported the 1999 release of Wayne Dumond because, at the time, he had no good reason to believe that the man represented a further threat to the public. Thanks to Huckabee's intervention, conducted in concert with a right-wing tabloid campaign on Dumond's behalf, Dumond was let out of prison 25 years before his sentence would have ended.

...

In a letter that has never before been made public, one of Dumond's victims warned: "I feel that if he is released it is only a matter of time before he commits another crime and fear that he will not leave a witness to testify against him the next time." Before Dumond was granted parole at Huckabee's urging, records show that Huckabee's office received a copy of this letter from Arkansas' parole board.


Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/12/04/documents-expose-huckabee_n_75362.html

[The_Casual_Observer]

1. Willie Horton

& a revolving door.

[Roland99]

31. Exactly the first thing I thought of!

[Window]

37. Same here...

but, I see he's using the old Condi defense, "None of us could've predicted what could've done when he got out."





Peace:thumbsup:

[Roland99]

42. He was just being a compassionate conservative. n/t

[BurtWorm]

34. The difference is that Huckabee's own fingerprints are on this one.

Dukakis just happened to be governor when the MA parole system fucked up. This release was a political act by Huckabee himself.

But he will get off scot free. He's a wingnut Republican. They always get off scot free, the bastidges.

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

47. IOKIYAR

Every. Single. Time.

I think Jesus wanted that guy to rape and murder, otherwise it's inconceivable that Huck would have released him.

[codjh9]

68. Sigh... I like my fellow DUers, but I just had to look up your looonggggg acronym...

these things are not self-evident.

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

69. It gets used a lot around here

Because it happens so often.

[question everything]

78. Can you please let the rest of us on the secret?

Thanks.

[psychopomp]

79. It's okay if you're a Republican ;)

[sallyseven]

64. The victim was distant relative of

Bill Clinton (Digby 6/11/07) Boy those repuks hate Clintons, women and getting caught doing bad stuff. People have to delve further into what the candidates stand for and not what the media wants you to know. Abortion, Gay Marriage and Immigration are not the most important things. Iraq, fraud, the economy are things we need to know about.

[LTR]

38. First thought in my head

Dumond sounds like a sicker person, though.

[DinahMoeHum]

51. "MICHAEL DUKAKABEE". Payback sucks, right, Goopers ???

:evilfrown:

[orleans]

2. bye bye huck--you little prick! n/t

[aquart]

3. Does rape matter to Republicans?

[me b zola]

27. Only if it happens to a fetus or a wealthy $$ donor. n/t

[happygoluckytoyou]

28. UNLESS IT IS A WEALTHY FETUS...then they go to france

for that "not in my church operational adjustment"

[pokercat999]

29. Not if it's committed by one of their own....nt

[thetaoofterri]

58. No, because women don't matter to republicans

at least not to this asshole.

BuhBye, Huckster

[klyon]

90. I guess not or they wouldn't do it to us every day

bend over

[Enrique]

4. whoa! this was the work of the Clinton-haters

In 1996, as a newly elected governor who had received strong support from the Christian right, Huckabee was under intense pressure from conservative activists to pardon Dumond or commute his sentence. The activists claimed that Dumond's initial imprisonment and various other travails were due to the fact that Ashley Stevens, the high school cheerleader he had raped, was a distant cousin of Bill Clinton, and the daughter of a major Clinton campaign contributor.

The case for Dumond's innocence was championed in Arkansas by Jay Cole, a Baptist minister and radio host who was a close friend of the Huckabee family. It also became a cause for New York Post columnist Steve Dunleavy, who repeatedly argued for Dumond's release, calling his conviction "a travesty of justice." On Sept. 21, 1999, Dunleavy wrote a column headlined "Clinton's Biggest Crime - Left Innocent Man In Jail For 14 Years":

"Dumond, now 52, was given conditional parole yesterday in Arkansas after having being sentenced to 50 years in jail for the rape of Clinton's cousin," Dunleavy wrote. "That rape never happened."

[sandnsea]

5. Yes

Astonishing, isn't it. Huckabee should be ashamed to look in the mirror, let alone run for President. I don't know if any of these candidates know the meaning of the word shame.

[ingac70]

8. Right wingers hate the Clenis so much...

They'll go out of their way to allow a dangerous sex predator out of prison to go on to even worse crime, all because the girl that was raped was a cousin of Clinton.

Beyond disgusting!! :puke:

[Zueda]

39. This is exactly why we do not need...

Such devisive figures as president.

[BenDavid]

65. and what are the dems to do. support a candiate with less

support like Obama or edwards and lose the 08 race.

You know a democrat has a set idea of what direction they want america to take and they pass their bills in hopes it will benefit all americans, Democrats help the poor first and then go up the ladder, wheras the right helps those at the top and then everyone else must fend for themselves.

[Catherine Vincent]

67. You are definitely anti-Clinton.

No mention of Huckabee in any of your posts here.

[autorank]

94. What's divisive. The whole country opposes rape/murder. This is highly documented

In the case of charges against Bill Clinton, there was a $1.5 billion fortune in back of an entire
attack apparatus. This was funded by Melon-Scaife in behalf of truly vested interests in smashing
any remnants of liberal policies. The process started in 1980 and it hasn't stopped, the process
of defaming and destroying the opposition to The Money Party.

Remember Reagan's "welfare queens" and other racist slurs & Iran hostages both in 1980.

Willie Horton - 1988, etc. etc.

And all the rest of the garbage from the right to obscure the fact that there's been a wholesale
redistribution of wealth away from working people to the top 1% of the population. How do you
win? Divide and conquer with racism, phony "national security, prestige, etc" issues, and other
non issues to take peoples eye off the ball.

Manufactured division for maximum diversion is the game plan for the right.


Their time is running out:)

[JoFerret]

97. Exactly. No Hucksters for the US

.

[RedSock]

76. New York Post columnist Steve Dunleavy

one of the biggest morons and knuckledraggers in the media.

a drunk racist who got a hard-on whenever rudy's cops shot innocent citizens

those in nyc will know him well.

[Joe Bacon]

99. Steve Dunleavy should be forced to pay restitution.

Steve Dunleavy and his boss Screwpert Murdoch should be forced to pay restitution to Dumonds victims.

[calimary]

6. I am SO kicking this!!!

:kick:

[Bumblebee]

7. Unfortunately there will be people here who will use even this to tell us that it's

all because the Clintons are such polarizing figures and is yet another proof that Hillary will lose the general election... Hope I am wrong.

[ingac70]

9. Some folks hate them so much....

They would rally around a a sex predator, that attacked a distant relative of his, securing his release so he can go on to commit more serious crimes!
Sounds polarizing to me. Twisted and beyond fucked up, as well.

The Clinton's aggravate psychosis in right wingers. Sad, but true.

[pnwmom]

63. Why are the Clintons hated? Because they are winners. Because

they're a threat.

The Rethugs were SHOCKED when Bill defeated H.W. -- how could such "trailer trash" defeat one of their elite? And they've been out to get the Clintons ever since.

Any Democrat who is popular with most people will be hated by the Rethugs.

[truthisfreedom]

10. Rallying around a sex predator is nothing new for rethugs.

Just look at the news.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

55. Sad but true

The fundies here in Indiana successfully rallied around a guy trying to win the right to adopt a little girl (from the foster care system I believe) over a gay male couple whom had previously been caring for her and sought to adopt her as well. Tragically, the gay male couple lost the little girl to this guy and it came out later that the guy who adopted her ended up molesting her. Simply tragic.
:banghead:

[pleah]

61. Exactly,

These people think if you call yourself a Christian, it gives you the right to murder, rape and pillage.

[SKKY]

11. Oh, what a tangled web we weave...

[calimary]

12. Kicking AGAIN!!

:kick:

[chelsea0011]

13. I won't hold my breath to see if MSM makes this issue or not. They

have fallen in love with this guy. They are even using the "surge" word. I'm still waiting on the TV news to make an issue of Rudolph's wife using the police for shuttle service. I guess you have to be a dem for 24-7 coverage.

[spinbaby]

19. Oh, they're making an issue of it

ABC did a lovely smear job on Huckabee this morning, complete with sobbing rape victim and an explanation of why New Hampshire won't vote for him. You can tell by the coverage this is getting that the neocons are scrambling to get rid of him.

[NewJeffCT]

26. ABC did that?

The Always Blow Conservatives network? The Path to 9/11 Network?

Wow, Huckabee must have pissed off some establishment Republics.

[TwilightGardener]

88. "Smear job"? You sound weirdly sympathetic to "Sick-Fuck Huck".

The "neocons" aren't out to get him--rational people who don't want a disaster for a president are.

[NewJeffCT]

14. kicked and recommended

this guy scares me as a candidate - a better spoken version of Bush.

[Stump]

15. You said it...

Imagine an articulate Bush...and there you have it. K&R

[PADemD]

16. "a better spoken version of Bush"

That's why he will be the Republican nominee.

[NewJeffCT]

17. scary isn't it

a guy that believes the world is 6,000 years old.

I think Bush only paid lip service to most religious ideas.

[jwirr]

80. More scary is the idea that he probably does not believe in the

separation of church and state, believes the US should help to bring about the end of the world and that he supports the war in Iraq/Iran because it is bringing on Armageddon. Also because he is a social conservative.

[ryanmuegge]

48. Exactly. As much as the Republicans try to distance themselves from Bush,

They are really only concerned with repackaging the same policies. They are all the same.

[xchrom]

18. dumond was released because huckabee hates the clintons.

[Zueda]

40. How will Hillary ever get anything done as president? nt

[xchrom]

45. i don't know what that comment means -- i am

separating Clinton hate out as an individual topic.
huckabee did what he did -- not because of reason -- but because of something else.
it says more about him that hillary or bill.

hillary is a grownup and can take care of herself -- or take care of her presidency.

i don't know -- not at this point care that much who is candidate.

i have a lot of negative feelings about the clintons -- but i've decided to wait and see through the primary process.
i have less animosity right now than i have in the past -- but that can change.

[Zueda]

49. I just feel this shows the vitriol against the Clinton...

I know that there are Clinton partisans that herold this as a plus but as a progressive I see it as a negative. How in the world will she ever accomplish anything. I don't fault the Clinton's for this but it is reality.

[greiner3]

70. Hark the angels that are named Harold?

:rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl:

[ronnykmarshall]

71. Grasping at straws.

[JoFerret]

98. Go away.

.

[TexasBushwhacker]

73. He did it because he wanted the support of Clinton haters

Justice and the safety of women were disposable.

[SPKrazy]

20. Not for nothing

but this is old news in the state of Arkansas

it came up in the governor's race and had no traction

I'd like to see it get some traction nationally

but I hardly see it as late breaking news

:shrug:

[Alcibiades]

84. Sometimes, these old stories will not play locally

But turn out to be the bomb nationally. For example, I am sure most folks in Arkansas knew Clinton was a philanderer, so Monica shouldn't have been big news, but it was.

Huckabee set himself up the bomb.

[meegbear]

21. If you haven't clicked the link for the full story, do so ...

it's a long, but thorough investigation and includes links to some of the letters written to Huckabee saying Dumond should not be released.

[Hawaii Hiker]

22. This is worse than the Wille Horton episode for Dukakis

And they're other things to go after Huckabee on to; the one debate he said along w/2 others that he didn't believe in evolution....Make no mistake, Huckabee is not as outspoken or as arrogant as Sam Brownback or a Rick Santorum, but he is every bit the religious funadamentalist as those two...

And this article is a must-read about Huckabee...

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/17324246/matt_taibbi_on_mike_huckabee_our_favorite_rightwing_nut_job

[scarface2004]

23. governor mike horton!!!

what an asshole!!

[Joe Bacon]

24. The Whore Press gave Hucky a pass on this before AND

You can bet they will do it again. This is a clear case of IOKIYAR. Besides, Wayne Du Mont is white. You think the Whore Press cares about a white guy who does stuff like this? Absolutely not! Hey, the Whore Press knows what sells and sadly what really sells in their eyes is someone with a darker skin color.

Just wait and see if any Media Whore asks Hucky the Kitty question that tanked Dukakis. They won't. That's IOKIYAR in action, besides Hucky is a Christian and Jesus forgives everything he does. He ain't one of them godless satan worshipers like the Clintons :sarcasm:

[NewJeffCT]

25. Not quite correct

The press doesn't really care about black-on-black crime. It's only when the killer/rapist is black and the victim is white that they care.

[Joe Bacon]

56. Precisely!

Sad but true...

[Doctor_J]

30. The Loony Right in AR wanted this guy released because his victim was a relative of Bill Clinton

They're so nuts that they think people who commit crimes against the Clinton family should not be punished.

[Zueda]

41. Just think about how much Clinton...

Will have to appease and "meet in the middle" on just about anything she tries to accomplish.

[LiberalFighter]

32. Huckabee is dead

[IsItJustMe]

33. The party of "no redemption, hang-em-high, and burn the witches" will not like this at all.

[happygoluckytoyou]

35. HUCK-A-BUCK

it must be tough to be in politics---- every "intention" is judged only on its results,
any single error can trash you forever..

WELL WOOHOO FOR OUR SIDE.... ADIOS HUCKSTER!!! AND YOUR LITTLE DOG TOO!!!

[HerbieHeadhunter]

36. What should immediately disqualify Huckabee is this...

The case for Dumond's innocence was championed in Arkansas by Jay Cole, a Baptist minister and radio host who was a close friend of the Huckabee family.

Jay Cole is, unfortunately, from my neck of the woods. He is a nutcase of the first order.

Aside from that, I'm surprised that Waas' article never mentions the now famous "Dear Wayne" letter from Huckabee to Dumond, although he does in an earlier article in the Arkansas Times.

http://www.arktimes.com/Articles/ArticleViewer.aspx?ArticleID=154e1aad-fd18-4efd-8d80-b5dab8559419

[LTR]

43. Dumond was insane - he castrated himself

Dumond was castrated prior to his trial; he stated that he was attacked by two men in his home (though district prosecutor Gene Raff suggested it was a case of self-mutilation and a urologist who'd studied the topic told the Forrest City Times-Herald that self-mutilation isn't that rare among psychologically disturbed sex offenders.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayne_Dumond#Wayne_Dumond

And this guy was deemed fit to be released?

:wtf:

Also, note that the Wayne Dumond article on Wikipedia redirects to Mike Huckabee.

Huckabee's toast.

[LynneSin]

44. I'm starting to worry that we're gonna have Fred Thompson as the nominee

:scared:

I think the only nominee I wouldn't overly panic over would be Ron Paul (although I would never ever consider voting for him).

[Vogon_Glory]

46. Hey, Repugs! Willy Horton THIS!

This squalid tale even outdoes Lee Atwater's accusations concerning Governor Dukakis and Willy Horton. Real coddling, real rapes, real murders. It's got Clinton-haters, Right-wing religious bigots, Murdoch's Newscorp New York Post--two dead women--AND IT'S ALL TRUE.

I don't favor using this matter as a first strike if Huckabee gets the nomination, but if an "unofficial" member of the Reich wing--Republican Party bunch makes so much as an indirect hint about the Democratic nominee being "soft on crime" or brings up l'affaire Lewinsky (And the right wingie-dingies are too stupid and too arrogant NOT to), club them over the heads with this again and again and again.

[ryanmuegge]

50. This is not good enough.

The corporate media can still spin this into, "the good-hearted Baptist minister is so forgiving and kind that it clouded his judgment in this one case." Huckabee's a humble, funny guy with character. That's the media's storyline right now, and I don't expect them to deviate from it soon.

[Cirque du So-What]

52. Funny that the unwashed masses are just now privy to this info

As this article shows, Murray Waas wrote a scathing exposé of this politically-motivated parole back in 2002 for the Arkansas Times. Was there even a peep from the corporate media when Huck-a-fuck announced as a candidate for president? They didn't see Fuckabee as a serious contender, so they preferred to let the sleeping dogs of RW hit jobs lie. Once his campaign began picking up steam among the so-called religious right, however, he represented a threat to the neocon-anointed candidate - 9iu11ani - so they saw the need to eliminate him from the race. I have Good Morning America on as background noise, and they must have mentioned this 'late-breaking news' at least ten times. As far as the corporate media are concerned, they've pulled the plug on Huckabee; he's definitely toast.

[Schema Thing]

53. Cant help but think

... it would've been better if this had come out during the general election (with him as the GOP pick, of course)

[Vogon_Glory]

91. Perhaps It's Better If It Comes Out Now

Perhaps it's better if the story comes out now. This story already seems to be getting a bit of traction in Republican primaries as one presidential camp or other uses it against Huckabee. If this story had broken after, say, Huckabee got the Presidential nomination, the whore press would ahve tried to spin the story as "left-wing loony Dems" "smearing" Huckabee with this story.

Let's remind the whore press and wing-nut apologists that this story isn't really just about Huckabee. It's also about right-wing Religious fanatics, Murdoch's News Corp, and the Clinton haters who fed so much material to the Arkansas Project and other Republican/Conservative smear campaigns helping to loose a rapist-murderer on the citizens of Arkansas and Missouri.

[Catherine Vincent]

54. This travesty is the result of Clinton-hate. nt

[Ricki]

57. some pro-lifer!

love the fetus, hate the child

[femrap]

89. and really, really, really

hate those that give birth.

And I bet that piece of dirt huckabuck will cry on national TV begging for forgiveness....what a complete waste of human flesh.

[hurricaneric]

59. Wow!

So that makes three big (understatement) scandals for the top three Republican presidential contenders. I live in Mass. and have this sinking feeling that Romney may come out on top. Although he was relatively ineffectual during his short stint as Governor here, like my father told me, "He would kick his own mother in the teeth to get ahead."
I think the recent poll that suggests Romney's biggest problem is sincerity, is telling. Every time he speaks you can hear the sh*t oozing out of his mouth.

[wishlist]

60. I doubt he can survive ABC/.Diane Sawyer/Good Morning America story

I think the ABC GMA report this morning will end Huckabee's surge in popularity because of the hardhitting way they revealed his dishonesty about his direct role in the pardon and how he chose to ignore several women's pleas to not let this guy go free (including the victim, a distant relative of Bill Clinton who came to him in person and was interviewed at length by ABC). ABC also interviewed the mother of a woman the guy murdered after being pardoned and she blames Huckabee for her daughters death. The report was presented in an explosive, sensational way certain to turn many people against Huckabee.

By comparison the news story ABC (GMA) did about Giuliani's taxpayer paid trips to see Judith was covered in a much more offhanded subdued quieter way.

[Hamlette]

62. Huckabee blamed Clinton at his press conference yesterday

"In 1992, Bill Clinton was governor; Jim Guy Tucker was Lieutenant Governor. And during Bill Clinton’s governorship, while he was campaigning for president, Jim Guy Tucker signed the papers to commute the sentence of Wayne DuMond to parole eligibility. That’s what made him parole eligible in 1992. He had been convicted of rape in Forest City Arkansas, during time of awaiting trial, he was hogtied and castrated; his testicles were later placed in a jar on the desk of a sherriff.

snip

For reasons Bill Clinton and Jim Guy Tucker would have to answer, not me, the sentence was commuted in 1992.

snip

Jim Guy Tucker had been convicted of Whitewater related felonies, he resigned. When I came into office in July, the file of Wayne DuMond was on my desk and was transferred to me having been sat there for several months prior to my coming of office.

snip

I made a visit to the parole board early in my tenure as a governor at the request of chairman, because you gotta remember, every member of that parole board had been appointed by Jim Guy Tucker or Bill Clinton. Not one of them appointed by me.

snip

But nobody, not me, not Jim Guy Tucker, not Bill Clinton, not that parole board, could ever imagine what might have transpired.

snip

For people to say that I was responsible in getting him out makes a few presumptions – number one, it presumes, I had an influence on Bill Clinton and Jim Guy Tucker in 1992.

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2007/12/huckabee-on-dum.html#more

I guess we'll see if blame Bill Clinton works. It seems to me it would have better for him to have taken more responsibility instead of trying to blame Bill but it might work.

[boricua79]

66. hmmm..kinda sad really

not that I'm a fan of any of the Republicans, but Huckabee was about the most pleasant and well-spoken of the bunch. If I HAD to settle for a Republican, he would have been my pick.

This type of thing doesn't play well with the law and order types in his party. This will hurt him.

[TwilightGardener]

87. I guess it's sadder to you that this hurts Huck's chances, than the

fact that he did something terrible--for political reasons--that led to the deaths of two women? Uh, I'm sad for the victims and families--not sad for the Huckster at all. He should never have run for President. He didn't even have the judgment to be Governor.

[boricua79]

96. no, you got me wrong

I'm saddened that of all the Republican candidates to have this on their record, it's Huckabee. That's not an exoneration of his behavior vis a vis this criminal and his victims.

To be honest, though I loathe his Republican standpoints, he's been very rational and very tolerant and calm in his explanation of his positions. I admire that in a person, despite his politics being wacky to me. He doesn't seem to bark or mudsling...and that shows character.

[MadMaddie]

95. Yea...but the old saying

"Beware of a thin wolf in Fat sheep Clothing....wait...that's not how it goes..:sarcasm:

And that my DU friends is what makes this particular Neocon candidate more dangerous then the rest of them....this is the same shit...the stupid freepers used when voting for *...he seemed like a nice guy...wouldn't mind having a beer with him...blah...blah....blah.

I hope the mother of the murdered victim stays healthy and strong....and the prior rape victim stays healthy and strong too....so they can keep reminding the public Fuckabee doesn't make good decisions and all he is is a partisan hack..

[Quixote1818]

72. This is not going over well with the Freepers.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1934980/posts#comment?q=1

[Initech]

74. The morals and values crowd strikes again!

Assholes.

[LSK]

75. LETS GET THIS ON OLBERMANN

[email protected]

[email protected]

[George II]

77. Misleading

If an article from another source is cited and posted, the headline from that article should also be posted instead of being rewritten in a misleading and dishonest way.

The Huffington Post article headline referred to the person as a serial RAPIST, not a murderer.

The REAL Headline:

"Documents Expose Huckabee's Role In Serial Rapist's Release"

The Headline above:

"Exclusive: Documents Expose Huckabee's Role In Murderer's Release"

BIG difference. Rewriting the headline is misleading and totally dishonest - lowering us to the level of Karl Rove and the Swift Boaters!

[Vattel]

81. Don't you think

comparing DU's use of "murderer" instead of "serial rapist" in its headline to the swiftboater's b.s. is like comparing speeding to murder? First of all, it's not much better for Huckabee to be accused of releasing a serial rapist than to be accused of releasing a murderer (both of which are, properly understood, true accusations). Second, as Huckabee knew or should have known, Dumond had taken part in a murder prior to his parole (he participated in beating a man to death with a claw hammer). The change is a little misleading because it suggests that Dumond had been convicted of murder prior to his parole, but the actual headline is also a little misleading because it suggests that Dumond had been convicted of more than one rape prior to his parole.

[autorank]

92. Unfortunately Dumond is both! The "subject" field is correct..

How can the truth be misleading in any way. Besides this isn't LBN...where the headline must be
exactly as is in the Subject field. It's GD and the Subject field reflected the truth.

The Wass article is a gem. It changed history.

[George II]

103. Is is wrong to misrepresent the Huff. Post article.

That is NOT what the Huff. Post headline read, but was represented as such. Period.

[autorank]

106. Where did the poster say he/she was representing the headling.

Here's Huffington Post

Documents Expose Huckabee's Role In Serial Rapist's Release

Here's the posters "subject field"

Exclusive: Documents Expose Huckabee's Role In Murderer's Release

This is not LBN. There's no reason to expect or rule requiring exact representation of a headline, none. If it's LBN, then, yes you're right. It is not. Please make that distinction.

The poster came fairly close to the headline, without having to literally, and actually expanded on the importance - "Murder" replaced "Serial Rapist" and that's another take on this. It speaks to the consequence of Huckabee's decision, which is more important than the "serial rapist" part of the headline for decision making purposes.

Why? Because Huckabee had not a thing to do with the guy's serial rapist career but he had everything to do with the guy getting out on parole, which then resulted in the murder(s) and that makes him, as the subject field of the post said, a "Murderer."

There was no misrepresentation. The poster did what people do on - enhanced the headline to make it meaningful to DU. Go look at Hissyspit, kpete, and other frequent news item posters. Their subject fields are always value added, as this one was.

[antiimperialist]

101. For your info, it was the Huffington Post that changed "murderer". I copy and pasted the original

Besides, other sites such as Tailrank used the word murderer, because it was the original word used in the headline:

http://tailrank.com/4113298/Documents-Expose-Huckabee-s-Role-In-Murderer-s-Release

A google search shows that the mobile version of the Huffington Post website had at one point the headline with the word "murderer":
Take a look at the last result (bottom of page) in this google search:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=exclusive+huckabee+murderer%27s&btnG=Google+Search

Another website that used the word "murderer" was Buzztracker
http://www.buzztracker.com/permalink/10442/53054494/Documents-Expose-Huckabees-Role-In-Murderers-Release

[George II]

104. And they recognized their error, if it did say "murderer"

[antiimperialist]

105. That's not the point

I'm being called dishonest and accused of posting a headline that never existed.
I debunked that and showed that the word "murderer" was included in three websites, including the mobile version of the Huffington Post.

That the Huffington Post committed an error is another issue. Rule are rules and I copy and pasted the exact headline.

[originalpckelly]

82. Here's how this comes back to politics: think Bill Clinton

The activists claimed that Dumond's initial imprisonment and various other travails were due to the fact that Ashley Stevens, the high school cheerleader he had raped, was a distant cousin of Bill Clinton, and the daughter of a major Clinton campaign contributor.


Holy shit, I can't believe a Republican would go so far as to release a dangerous rapist for politics. I'm getting worried about a Huckabee-Clinton match up, it seems like they have bad blood and are willing to go far for politics.

[TexasBushwhacker]

83. You not have watched or read this ....

The Hunting of the President

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0391225/

[femrap]

85. K and R

That was extremely difficult to read. I feel sick. And to think that he calls himself a preacher and that he has the gall to run for president. What a woman-hating, hypocritical piece of dirt...our culture has truly reached a new low.

I want to make sure that every member of the American Taliban hears of this about their piece of dirt candidate.

[rzemanfl]

86. He succumbed to religious pressure and let a dangerous

person loose: "The case for Dumond's innocence was championed in Arkansas by Jay Cole, a Baptist minister and radio host who was a close friend of the Huckabee family.

[yellowcanine]

102. There was also an anti - Bill Clinton element to the campaign to free Dumond.

The Dumond supporters were claiming that Clinton railroaded Dumond because Clinton was a distant relative of the rape victim. They claimed there was DNA evidence that exonerated Dumond - there wasn't, but that didn't stop Huckabee from making the same claim to the victim and her family. He bought the whole bogus story without bothering to check the case files - which he had access to as governor since Dumond was also seeking a pardon. Huckabee really screwed this one up and should be held accountable. At least one woman is dead as a direct result of Huckabee's poor judgment.

[autorank]

93. Wow!!!!!!!!! Brilliant

I finally had time to read this in one sitting. What a blockbuster. Waas is amazing.

He's releasing evidence he'd held onto previously and adding more narrative. It's an exceptional
piece of writing and the additional evidence is devastating beyond words.

It's well worth a full read.

Will it take Huckabee out of the race? I suspect so. MSM is in their "pitch" mode, making him
into some folksy character to be sold by their masters. But this is too powerful.

And remember, there's the Romney and Thompson campaigns who have already made an issue of this.
Plus Pat Robertson endorsed Giuliani. He's notn likely to be quiet on this one. Not by a long shot.

Waas changed history with this update. Truly brilliant.

[Jackpine Radical]

100. Wanna see the 1996 Wingnut version of the story?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=2405892&mesg_id=2405892

HOW GOV. CLINTON DENIED AN INNOCENT MAN HIS FREEDOM

By Steve Dunleavy
New York Post
Saturday, June 2, 1996

The bombshell Whitewater convictions that may be President Clinton's darkest
hour gave a middle-aged Arkansas housewife her brightest moment.

"Now that the Clinton people are going to jail, maybe my husband will go
free," Mary Lou Dumond told me.

Her husband, Wayne Dumond, 49, has just spent his 11th year in an Arkansas
jail. Many say Dumond is the victim of one of the most bone-crunching and
infuriating examples of Clinton-era justice the country has ever seen. And
now, because Clinton's alleged bagman, Gov. Jimmy Guy Tucker, is going to
jail, Dumond is set to see freedom.

"The new governor, Mike Huckabee, has assured me Wayne will be a free man,"
Mrs. Dumond said Thursday. "He is not one of the Clinton crowd. He is a
very fair man. He has always been disturbed about the way the Clinton
people never wanted my husband free," she added.