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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 08:23 AM
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Rudy Giuliani jets to campaign stops using casino kingpin's plane
Source: Daily News

Sunday, November 18th 2007, 4:00 AM
Sheinwald/Bloomberg


The Republican presidential hopeful anted up more than $122,000 last summer alone for jets traceable to casino kingpin Sheldon Adelson, whose Las Vegas Sands empire has made him the third-richest American, a Daily News review of campaign records shows...

Cargill, who views even legal gambling as a magnet for crime and vice, said, "If Rudy Giuliani wants to be the crimefighting candidate, why is he partnering with a large and growing gambling empire?"...

Democrats Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama accept no corporate aircraft, choosing instead to rent planes at full market cost to avoid the appearance of a conflict.

Some even rub elbows with the common folk: Democrats Christopher Dodd and Dennis Kucinich were spotted flying commercial to last week's Las Vegas debate...



Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2007/11/18/2007-11-18_rudy_giuliani_jets_to_campaign_stops_usi-4.html
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 08:29 AM
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1. interesting record of political donations
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 10:31 AM
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6. I've looked up many names on Newsmeat, but I can't recall looking up one
with such a long list of donations. Thanks for the link. :-)
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 08:33 AM
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2. The Ghoul can't help it
Edited on Sun Nov-18-07 08:34 AM by BeyondGeography
If there's an ethical compromise to be made out there, he'll make it. Plus, and this is unfair but such is life, palling around with a casino king and carrying an Italian surname is a bad combination.
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brazos121200 Donating Member (626 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 08:44 AM
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3. There are major concerns about Giuliani's dealings
with his buddy Kerik, and now this, it's quite disturbing. If Giuliani wins we might have a President who rubs shoulders with known criminals. If I were a Democratic hopeful I would be putting forth a major effort to acquire more information about Giuliani's dealings and friends to use against him in the election. Giulinai sems to be out in front for the Repub nomination, and now would be the time to get more information on him, rather than wait to the last minute.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 01:23 PM
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9. There are major concerns about Giuliani, period
He's skipping Iowa and New Hampshire, opting instead to put all his candidate eggs into the basket of South Carolina. What if a Democratic candidate was doing something like that? Oh boy, would the accusations of pandering and cold-eyed calculating run rife over our media discourse! But Giuliani is doing this basically because he figures that Iowa and New Hampshire are losses anyway. Those two states are retail politics at their most basic, and Giuliani doesn't have the staff, the time or the money to make a good run in either of those states.

That said, the question that comes out will be two-fold: Will the media notice Giuliani's poor showing in Iowa and New Hampshire? Will someone win smashing victories in those two states to give himself the aura of invincibility? If the media are mute on Giuliani's poor showing and nobody (oka, Romney) romps to convincing wins in both Iowa and New Hampshire, then and only then does Giuliani's strategy have a chance of succeeding. I don't think the typical voter is going to notice that Giuliani is opting out of the first two states, and if his poor showing is gone over and over, the message that will be broadcast is that Giuliani's a loser, and South Carolina won't give him the national boost he's hoping for; he may even lose the state, which would end his campaign right then and there.

Giuliani is basically betting that Thompson or Huckabee or McCain can expose weakness in Romney's campaign. Good luck with that.
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Al Federfer Donating Member (214 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 09:55 AM
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4. Giuliani is a pig. n/t
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 09:57 AM
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5. K&R #3 for, how come he's still our crack media's "America's mayor"?!1 n/t
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Joe Bacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 10:38 AM
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7. Because our Corporate Controlled Conservative Press loves him
CCCP--sounds familiar??????

Yes our CCCP loves him because Rudy promised them the same deal that their boy Bush did, more tax cuts, more bribes, er, "incentives" and more deregulation.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 10:44 AM
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8. Rude-E is such a phony.
"If Rudy Giuliani wants to be the crimefighting candidate, why is he partnering with a large and growing gambling empire?"


Rude-E doesn't really want to be the crime fighting candidate. He just wants the public at large to think he is.

And it's no surprise to see The Donald's name appear in the list of Rude-E's corporate cozy connections. I mean, we all know The Donald and The Rude-E are more than just friends. I seem to remember a video somewhere that lead me to believe they were having an affair...:evilgrin:

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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 01:36 PM
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10. No surprise here.
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DLnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 03:21 PM
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11. Rudy only "crimefignts" crime which competes with his personal profits,
power and abusive personal relationships.

Although Rudy apparently had a falling out with his dad's crowd (his dad turns out to have been a leg-breaker for the mob), his tactics and personality are goon-to-the-core.

One question that has always bothered me is:
Did Rudy prosecute some, but not all, of the Mafia families in NYC when he was the US Attorney in NYC? In other words, was he really a crime fighter, or just a handicapper?

If I ever felt bad about saying mean things about Mr. Ghoul, I got over it after he went down to Haiti and came back saying that the Duvaliers had 'no human rights problems'.

NYers know Rudy to be a fascist/thug/sonofabitch through and through. Whether he's working with old-school Mafia types or new-school neocon multinational war profiteers, the attitude is the same: "Power is everything."
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