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FreeStateDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 07:33 PM
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Group Sues to Get Clinton Records
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Group Sues to Get Clinton Records
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By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Published: November 5, 2007
Filed at 6:58 p.m. ET

WASHINGTON (AP) -- A conservative public interest group has sued the National Archives to obtain records from Hillary Rodham Clinton's tenure as head of a White House task force on health care during her husband's administration.

Judicial Watch, which has been seeking access to Clinton's White House records since April 2006, announced the filing of the lawsuit on Monday claiming the National Archives has failed to make records available or to indicate when access to the records would be allowed.

The lawsuit comes as Hillary Clinton is facing increased criticism from her Democratic presidential rivals over the number of White House documents from her husband's administration that have not been made public.

The records are held by the National Archives at the Clinton Presidential Library in Little Rock, Ark. The Clinton White House documents total 78 million pages and 20 million e-mail messages. The archives had no immediate comment on the suit.

Judicial Watch asked for documents related to the health care task force in a Freedom of Information request last year. The group said the National Archives has said it must review more than 3 million textual records and 2,884 pages of electronic records before responding to the request.

Judicial Watch already has another pending lawsuit against the National Archives


Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/us/AP-Clinton-Archives.html?_r=1&oref=slogin



Hillary's candidacy would be nothing but a loser for our party. Forget issues it would be all about the last BJ and what if he does it again. There are too many important questions facing our country to be saddled with and distracted by the personal failings of the Clinton family.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 07:36 PM
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1. Thank you for your concern while pimping Judicial Watch
:eyes:
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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 08:44 AM
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25. and pimping the republican talking points regarding the Clinton family
Transparency is not a concept easily understood by the Bush sock puppets, now is it.
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 07:45 PM
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2. The piss-poorly named Judicial Watch apparently sees no harm in the Cheney
energy task force - which operated under actual secrecy, not just quietly and never produced an actual record that demonstrated the results of their findings. :wtf:

Perhaps they should be called Clinton watch, not Judicial Watch? Maybe Democratic Watch?

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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 09:55 PM
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6. It was Judicial Watch that found that Cheney's task force was looking at Iraqi oil fields in 2001
Judicial Watch and the Sierra Club sued for those papers.

Jul 17, 2003 Contact: Press Office

CHENEY ENERGY TASK FORCE DOCUMENTS FEATURE MAP OF IRAQI OILFIELDS

Commerce & State Department Reports to Task Force Detail Oilfield & Gas Projects, Contracts & Exploration

Saudi Arabian & UAE Oil Facilities Profiled As Well


(Washington, DC) Judicial Watch, the public interest group that investigates and prosecutes government corruption and abuse, said today that documents turned over by the Commerce Department, under court order as a result of Judicial Watch’s Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuit concerning the activities of the Cheney Energy Task Force, contain a map of Iraqi oilfields, pipelines, refineries and terminals, as well as 2 charts detailing Iraqi oil and gas projects, and “Foreign Suitors for Iraqi Oilfield Contracts.” The documents, which are dated March 2001, are available on the Internet at: www.JudicialWatch.org.

The Saudi Arabian and United Arab Emirates (UAE) documents likewise feature a map of each country’s oilfields, pipelines, refineries and tanker terminals. There are supporting charts with details of the major oil and gas development projects in each country that provide information on the projects, costs, capacity, oil company and status or completion date.

Judicial Watch has been seeking these documents under FOIA since April 19, 2001. Judicial Watch was forced to file a lawsuit in the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia (Judicial Watch Inc. v. Department of Energy, et al., Civil Action No. 01-0981) when the government failed to comply with the provisions of the FOIA law. U.S. District Court Judge Paul J. Friedman ordered the government to produce the documents on March 5, 2002.

The documents were produced in response to Judicial Watch’s on-going efforts to ensure transparency and accountability in government on behalf of the American people. Judicial Watch aggressively pursues those goals by making FOIA requests and seeking access to public information concerning government operations. When the government fails to abide by these “sunshine laws” Judicial Watch files lawsuits in order to obtain the requested information and to hold responsible government officials accountable.

“These documents show the importance of the Energy Task Force and why its operations should be open to the public,” stated Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton.

http://www.judicialwatch.org/iraqi-oilfield-pr.shtml
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 10:10 PM
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7. Maybe that was what rang the bell
Too bad no picked up the ball and ran with it.
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bluerum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 10:16 PM
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9. Well the dems need a republic watch. A group whose only mission in life
is to hold the rethugs under a magnifying glass wherever they go whatever they do.

After all, there are groups like Judicial Watch that scrutinize and politicize every move of potentially powerful progressives in order to throw sand in the gears of any political efforts that they may endeavor in.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 12:48 AM
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21. Keeping impeachment "off the table" is the deathknell of the Republic
Having scum like DiFi and Schumer support an Attorney General nominee that supports torture and that thinks that Bush can act above the law as a "Unitary" executive, is bad for our republican form of government, not to mention our freedoms.
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Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 11:11 PM
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14. They are not
a legit group? It is hard to keep track.
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 07:46 AM
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24. Mega Great Point!
:yourock: :applause: :applause: :woohoo: :applause: :applause:
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 01:07 PM
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29. You've just given Hilary her responding points. However, I'll still support Edwards as the best
candidate in the field.
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 07:52 PM
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3. Well if they can get them any faster than any of the other 100 groups
AND PRESIDENT BILL CLINTON, who have had requests in for 5 years, well more power to them. The NARA has 7 got that 7 full time clerks to search and release request. And you have to remember that request for President Clinton's papers are not any where near the top of the list.

The NARA released a statement that said they were working as fast as they could to release records in turn. But with only 7 clerks to search thru the papers and release those that PRESIDENT BUSH SIGNED AN EO ORDER 13,233 TO WITH HOLD, is a time consuming task.

But then that doesn't stop the Obama supporters from bouncing up and down and trying to make an issue out of it.

But just yesterday, I say were the god Obama has at least five different groups of HIS RECORDS WHILE HE WAS IN THE STATE OF ILLINOIS GOVERNMENT yet to be released. He won't turn them loose. So what the hell do you say about that....Hillary Clinton should go down to the Archives, pull out a whip and make those clerks research all those other records, waiting to be released so they can get to hers to satisfy Obama who won't release his. Golly jumping gee whiz what a revolting development this is...Obama caught in his own petard.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 08:51 PM
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 11:44 PM
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15.  somebody hit a sore spot ? nt
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 12:14 AM
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18. Yes, a REALLY sore spot when someone invades a Democratic board and spews forth Republican filth
about Democrats.
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 12:20 AM
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20. see #19
miss-post.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 12:52 AM
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22. Then argue on a rational basis instead of calling someone a "freeper" /nt
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 07:47 PM
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30. Judicial Watch is a freeper front plain and simple.
What's RATIONAL about letting the opposition spread its filthy lies here?
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 12:19 AM
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19. which part? Lots of people have been trying to get those records released
right?
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JeanGrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 11:53 PM
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16. Hillary pull out a whip to find records? Not likely.
Having said that Judicial Watch is a total joke - they should name it "right wing watch".
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 09:42 PM
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5. Like they won't dig up dirt on our other candidates
I believe Hillary can fight and win. She may be the only one able to do so. At any rate, I'm not going to let some right wing group tell me who to vote for.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 10:15 PM
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8. Judicial Watch, Larry "Klanman", is still around?
Oye!
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 07:11 AM
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23. Larry left.
I actually met him once, rude SOB
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 10:19 PM
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10. While they are at it why don't they go after * who locked
down Presidential records and see what he is hiding of the Senior *.

Bwah..haw..haw....the stupid fucks they never think of the "Unintended Consequences of their poorly planned actions"!!
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 10:27 PM
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11. I was just going to post something similar. What dot sue for
the Reagan, Bush Sr., and Shrub records THAT SHRUB ISSUED HIS EXECUTIVE ORDER TO SEAL?????
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 10:54 PM
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12. The first thing * did in 2001 in taking office was seal up the Iran/Contra records
re the GOP deal with Iran's mullahs and weapons.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 11:11 PM
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13. He also included Clinton's reconds in that EO. I don't really have
a problem with people demanding the release of Hillary's records, but I think it should include ALL the damn sealed records, including Poppy, Reagan, & Shrub's from when he was Governor!
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JeanGrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 11:54 PM
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17. You bet! I think they all protect each other, really.
I wish I didn't think so but I do.
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 01:06 PM
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28. My point on IranContra is the secret deal (aka treason) of the GOP
The weapons arming Iran today are what ? from the Reagan/Casey 'gift' ?
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JeanGrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 10:22 AM
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31. Very likely. We may never know unless we get
full documentation. But I don't think any of them are eager to spill all the beans.
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 09:29 AM
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26. Didn't Bush* by Executive Order lock up all Presidential Papers?
Edited on Tue Nov-06-07 09:30 AM by Toots
One of Bush*'s first official acts was to break congressional Law and disregard the Presidential Papers Act, an Official Act of Congress that required the release of all Presidentiual Papers after that President had been out of office for a period of more than twelve years and allowed the papers could be released after eight years. Reagan had been out of office by more than twelve years when Bush* was sworn in and his dad had been out more than eight years. Bush* rewrote this Congressional Act on his own and disregarded the Law. It certainly would not be the only time nor the last time he did so..When Congress failed to even show concern over this obvious unlawful behavior I knew we were in for a bumpy ride..
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 11:28 AM
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27. funny how if it had been BUSH records that were the question
there'd be no fuss here, but since its CLINTON who is being queried, the response is 'REPUBLICAN FILTH' !
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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 03:33 PM
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32. They're only distractions if...
"o be saddled with and distracted by the personal failings of the Clinton family."

They're only distractions if one is easily distracted.
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