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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 08:47 AM
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Interpol weighs putting Iranians on most-wanted list for 1994 Argentine Jewish center bombing
Source: AP

BUENOS AIRES, Argentina: Iran's top diplomat in Argentina says the U.S. and Israel are pressuring Interpol to put a handful of his countrymen on the international police agency's most-wanted list for the 1994 bombing of a Jewish community center here.

The lead prosecutor in Argentina's worst terror attack, however, says the case is not a political matter. He is calling for Interpol to take action at the 186-nation agency's general assembly that opens Monday in Marrakech, Morocco.

"Iran has been permanently trying to politicize this," prosecutor Alberto Nisman said before flying to Marrakech.

...

"The case has created a lot of tension between Argentina and Iran," said Francois Nicoullaud, France's ambassador to Tehran from 2001 to 2005.

Mohsen Baharvand, Iran's top diplomat in Argentina, blames Washington and its allies — mainly Israel — for the tension.


Read more: http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/11/04/america/LA-GEN-Argentina-Bombing.php
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 10:00 AM
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1. A Jewish Community Center in Argentina is bombed and the UNITED
STATES and Israel want INTERPOL to go after Iran.

It's not our business what Argentina does about Iran.

Who says the UNITED STATES has any business in Argentina or in INTERPOL business?

Crap
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abq e streeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 11:41 AM
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2. Nice intentional misreading there...
Its "Iran says the U.S." ... I for one, believe about as much that comes out of the mouths of Iranian officials as I do anything coming from the Bush Junta...
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 01:49 PM
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6. You're right. It does say 'Iran says'. But ... we know Israel (some)
Edited on Sun Nov-04-07 01:51 PM by higher class
and the U.S. (some) are partners is concocting any reasons they can come up with to bomb Iran. I definitely jumped the gun from the journalistic oontent aspect, but there is just a micro jump to be ready to believe it.

I am adamantly against the bombing of Iran. And I am not anti-semetic.

I do not believe in perpetual warcombined with little to no effort devoted to negotiating peace. I no longer believe (if I ever did) in an eye for an eye. I have become totally opposed to that biblical interpretation when it means perpetual murder for years on end. From both sides. No one is innocent over there and over here. The intolerants are on both sides.

There is no way that I will accept any denial that Israel (?) and the U.S. neo-cons are not partners in policy and weaponry.

Israel with the neo-cons here have caused me to abandon unlimited support for their righteousness.

So, I'll wait to hear more and I'll repeat - you're right. It wasn't intentional, but my comments were too assuming.
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abq e streeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 02:40 PM
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8. in case you didn't read my other post below...
I'm appreciative of your guts and integrity in owning up to your misinterpretation and I in turn want to apologize for assuming it was intentional...have a good day.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 01:46 PM
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5. I'm sorry. Are you excusing the bombing because it was done to Jews?
You are, aren't you? Anyone who bombs Jews is okay by you. So go out and kill some of us. Feel really good about yourself.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 07:25 PM
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9. Ridiculous. I am angry about politics. I am angry at pnacers, neo-cons,
Edited on Sun Nov-04-07 07:31 PM by higher class
all the people who aid them, work for them, earn money off of them, and direct and fund them. They have a good thing going with their counterparts in Israel. I deeply resent the encroachment of their counterparts in the government, especially the DOD for which we have recent proof because of what we have observed with what we've learned about their lobbying arm. The same would be true if the partners were Greeks or Brazilians. I hear Israelis who are counterparts and partners, I don't hear Jew.

I am for Israel and the right for both Israel and Palestine to exist in peace. We are heading for the worst outcome with our madmen and their counterparts.

I will turn this around and ask if you are so sensitive of any criticism of Israel to the point of wrongly accusing me of excusing bombing in Argentina, is it because you want the political predatory bombing and invasion of Iran? That makes as much nonsense as the nonsense you directed at me.

If I want peace in Israel and Palestine, then wouldn't logic say that I don't want bombing of Jews in Argentina or anywhere? Or massacres of the Buddhists, or Guatemala and Central America Indians, or Chilean and Argentinian massacres of the U.S. connected and directed past - or the manipulations going on the the devastation of the people of Africa. I feel I have learned a little something from history.

Bombing is the most inhuman act next to torture and torment, abuse of children and women, and hypocrisy, theft, and lies of a government.

My problem is that I got sick and tired of the eye for an eye type of deathly game playing on both sides of the street in Israel/Palestine.

You don't know me and you really don't have license to accuse me of excusing bombing of Jews.

But, I'm not going to spend any words defending or listing all the ways I am connected to Jews and the relgion.

It's the politics. It's horrendous. And I know Jews who feel exactly as I do.

Please stop going after me in these threads.
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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 04:07 PM
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15. I totally agree. n/t
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 11:56 AM
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3. Interpol should put Israel's government on most wanted list for their war crimes in Lebanon
Two can play at this game!
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 01:44 PM
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4. Unfuckingbelievable the bile that rises up in this place.
Why does the nationality of criminals matter here? Give them a free pass because they're Persian? Why? Oh, right, because the Jews are so much worse?

So, do you donate to Hezbullah? You know, that military entity which is so willing to sacrifice Lebanese lives? Do you blame them for ANYTHING? Or only the Jews?

Ever notice what the Lebanese do when they get near a Palestinian camp? Ever notice how they KEEP the Palestinians in a CAMP? Ever wondered about that for one tiny second? Wait: it's the fault of the Jews.

The Lebanese massacred the people of Sabra and Shatila and Israel got ALL the blame. Why didn't the Lebanese like the people of Sabra and Shatila? Must be the fault of the Jews. And the recent camp that was evacuated and then destroyed BY THE LEBANESE...what's up with that? Some Jewish plot, I guess.

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abq e streeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 02:22 PM
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7. thanks for saying what I wanted to but was getting tired of having to...
I guess changing the subject when some facts make one uncomfortable is not just a right wing strategery. I've been trying to figure out precisely when blaming Israel, AIPAC, etc. for every problem in the world became so chic in progressive circles. Iran strongly suspected in the slaughter of innocent Jews? No problem, just point out something bad that Israel did that had nothing whatsoever to do with the original post about Argentina. At least the first person to respond to this post had the guts and integrity to admit I was right about their misinterpretation of this article, and I'd like to reciprocate by apologizing to them for assuming it was intentional. Good day to you, aquart. And you know what? Good day to the two other Duers who posted here too. (And its a gorgeous day here in Albuquerque)
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4dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 07:56 AM
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14. Israeli's are guilty too for Sabra and Shatila
http://www.countercurrents.org/pa-fisk180903.htm

When does a killing become an outrage? When does an atrocity become a massacre? Or, put another way, how many killings make a massacre? Thirty? A hundred? Three hundred? When is a massacre not a massacre? When the figures are too low? Or when the massacre is carried out by Israel’s friends rather than Israel's enemies?

That, I suspected, was what this argument was about. If Syrian troops had crossed into Israel, surrounded a Kibbutz and allowed their Palestinian allies to slaughter the Jewish inhabitants, no Western news agency would waste its time afterwards arguing about whether or not it should be called a massacre.

But in Beirut, the victims were Palestinians. The guilty were certainly Christian militiamen - from which particular unit we were still unsure - but the Israelis were also guilty. If the Israelis had not taken part in the killings, they had certainly sent militia into the camp. They had trained them, given them uniforms, handed them US army rations and Israeli medical equipment. Then they had watched the murderers in the camps, they had given them military assistance - the Israeli airforce had dropped all those flares to help the men who were murdering the inhabitants of Sabra and Chatila - and they had established military liason with the murderers in the camps

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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 03:56 AM
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12. What in the hell has one to do with the other?
Edited on Mon Nov-05-07 03:58 AM by LeftishBrit
It isn't the Iranian GOVERNMENT that is being suspected of this crime; it is a few individual Iranians. And the attack wasn't on Israel; it was on a Jewish center in Argentina.

I opposed the Israeli over-reaction in Lebanon and especially their use of cluster bombs- and I opposed the US/UK totally unprovoked attack on Iraq, and our use of cluster bombs. Both America and Israel are said (by a rather untrustworthy source) to be exerting pressure in this case. Why aren't you suggesting that Interpol go after America for their war crimes - why just Israel?
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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 04:08 PM
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16. Yes! n/t
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 01:16 AM
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10. well, considering Argentina is polluted with Nazis
and Nazi-lovers, I'm not surprised they'd want to point the finger at another target. Since Iran seems to be the bogeyman of the day, the Argentines are pointing at them. Frankly, in my jaded opinion, it was probably Argentine neo-Nazis who did it, and Argentina wants to save face. Occam's razor is the guiding principle here. Either one has to believe the prosecutor is right, and a bunch of Iranians bombed a Jewish centre in Argentina, a country probably no Iranian cares anything about, or it was one of a multitude of neo-Nazis which exist in Argentina. Which seems more likely?
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 05:40 AM
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13. neo-nazis exist in many countries
this case has been going on for a long time, and apparently the evidence indicates that it was H'zbollah. And this wasn't exactly the first time that a radical Islamic group opposed to Israel has struck at Jewish targets outside of Israel. You clearly want to believe that no Iranians were involved in this. Argentina now is not the Argentina of the 1970 or 1980s. And this investigation has been going on much longer than the U.S. push for war with Iran.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 03:49 AM
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11. I hope the people who committed this crime are finally brought to justice
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