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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 11:14 AM
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Some 60 demonstrators arrested outside U.S. Capitol
Edited on Mon Oct-22-07 11:22 AM by maddezmom
Source: Reuters

WASHINGTON, Oct 22 (Reuters) - About 60 peaceful demonstrators, including several dressed as polar bears, were arrested outside the U.S. Capitol on Monday protesting the Iraq war and global warming, authorities said.

"People are being arrested out here because you (Congress) are not doing your job," antiwar activist Ann Wright shouted into a bullhorn.

Demonstrators were arrested on charges of unlawful assembly and blocking entrances to the Capitol, which was ringed by members of the U.S. Capitol Police.

Sgt. Kimberly Schneider, a police spokeswoman, said, "We've had about 60 arrests." She said she had received no reports of violence.

Read more: http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N22449327.htm




A protestor is arrested on Capitol Hill Hill in Washington, Monday, Oct. 22, 2007, after blocking a roadway near the Capitol as a variety of anti-war, justice and clean energy groups gathered for non-violent civil disobedience. (AP Photo/Caleb Jones)




A protester is arrested by Capitol Hill Police officers at the entrance of the Cannon House Office Building on Capitol Hill in Washington, Monday, Oct. 22, 2007, during an anti-war and anti-climate change demonstration. (AP Photo/Caleb Jones)


A protester, who was sitting down on Independence Avenue blocking traffic, is arrested during an anti-war and anti-climate change protest, Monday, Oct. 22, 2007, in front of the Capitol in Washington. (AP Photo/Charles Dharapak)
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 11:16 AM
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1. Polar bears against the Iraq war!
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jaksavage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 11:20 AM
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2. Salmon would have come too, but
they were in school.
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GeminiProgressive Donating Member (219 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 11:23 AM
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3. Good
we need more of this.
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 12:17 PM
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9. More bad puns?
Oh, you mean protests.

-Hoot
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 03:51 PM
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36. lol very clever.
Edited on Mon Oct-22-07 03:59 PM by Auntie Bush
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 11:26 AM
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4. our lives, our fortune, our sacred honor
That's what it took to rid ourselves of the last King George. Thank you, all of you who have chosen to support liberty and not tyranny.
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dogfacedboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 11:30 AM
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5. isn't the right to assemble peaceably guaranteed in OUR Constitution?
Edited on Mon Oct-22-07 11:30 AM by dogfacedboy
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iheartobama Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 11:32 AM
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6. I'll bet they....
....are "disappeared".
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 11:51 AM
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7. it used to be
Before we morphed into the old Soviet Union
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NOLALady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 12:03 PM
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8. That was once upon a time,
in a land far, far away.
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 01:57 PM
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24. Since the judiciary has been packed with rw corporatists
and since they decide what is and what is not constitutional...well you catch my drift.
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Sneaky Sailor Donating Member (298 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 02:10 PM
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27. OK, The one dude was blocking traffic
and clearly was refusing to move, thats a whole different story...
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 04:24 PM
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39. Isn't the point of civil disobedience to get arrested?
And I'm not sure blocking traffic qualifies as "peaceful assembly"

But then peaceful assembly won't get you on the news.
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codjh9 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 12:31 PM
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10. Good thing we have a 'President' defending our 'freedom', right?
I mean, he always TALKS about it, so we must have it in spades...
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 12:33 PM
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11. 2nd picture is Adam Kokesh
Wow - don't know how many times he has been arrested now - just in the last few months!!

You rock, Adam!!! :yourock:
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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 01:32 PM
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18. I thought he looked familiar.
Thanks for the heads-up.
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pnorman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 01:40 PM
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21. "Adam Kokesh"!!
I had to Google to refresh my memory: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Kokesh

A patriot, but not of the fair weather variety.

pnorman
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Sneaky Sailor Donating Member (298 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 02:12 PM
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28. Oh, that guy
Good times.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 03:27 PM
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33. What do you mean by that?
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Sneaky Sailor Donating Member (298 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 03:52 PM
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37. Nothing
I was commenting that I now recognized who he is. What do YOU mean by what you say. Or are you to good to have you intentions questioned?
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 06:11 PM
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45. Adam is a friend of mine
I was wondering what good times you were referring to.
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Dollface Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 12:33 PM
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12. Is there a place where we can kick in for their bail and legal costs?
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 12:48 PM
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13. These folks might know more about that
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Dollface Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 12:59 PM
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15. Thanks. They have a great big donate button. Also excellent links to local events. Search by Zip
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 01:45 PM
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22. Yes here
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Dollface Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 11:33 AM
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47. Thanks. That looks like a good one too.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 12:58 PM
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14. Congress shall make no law ...
...respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

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codjh9 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 01:34 PM
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19. True, but the problem here is a certain house painted white, with columns in front of it
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 01:37 PM
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20. Bush thinks the restrictions on Congressional power...
...are to protect executive power.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 02:23 PM
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29. and a terrible stench coming from it.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 01:20 PM
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16. We need campaign protest experts to advise us after these mass
Edited on Mon Oct-22-07 02:08 PM by higher class
arrests whether they are with or without weapons and maiming - so we can understand the law of the arrests.

Does anyone know the D.C. rules - do they have to get a permit? A license? Just what is needed to make it legal since they are claiming this was illegal - as they have before.

Would blocking an entrance render a permit or license void for everyone? Does it immediately make the entire group of protesters vulnerable?

We read about these arrests and it is usually with no background about legalities and I think it would help us all if we could learn.

It would seem that staying within the law would be better for everyone in the event that the police become violent without cause. Or block or stop the protest without cause. Wouldn't it be better to turn it around and make them the criminals or make them the ones who are out of line?

If you ask people to come out and protest, shouldn't legal groundwork be established?

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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 01:49 PM
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23. They are way ahead of you
These mass arrests are well planned in advance and far more organized than it appears. They always have attorneys with them and get on the spot legal advice.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 02:10 PM
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26. OK thanks!
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 02:26 PM
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30. An afterthought! In the news releases about the protests the press usually
reports everything as illegal. Does it mean that the lawyers didn't get to speak to the press? If the lawyer is busy, perhaps every protest should have a spokesperson working right along side the lawyer.

I think protests create a serious negative reaction with many lemmings and the near lemmings who love George and Dick or are reminded of their disdain for hippies.

If the lawyer or prublic relations type person went to the press and said that it was legal and why, it might get in. When it doesn't, it can go on record toward a build up of proof of neglect and imbalance.

Also, it seems that the brutality and excess is racheting up - perhaps there needs to be a web site where various protests can be logged - with detail about what I'm talking about - the legal aspect - as well as who claimed what and how many. I think the after the fact record is not as important as the protest, but can build up in importance for defending accusers. And as a learning tool. If they are building up, we need to build a defense.

Sitting in another state, it just seems like a confusing show and way too many people assume the protestors are doing something illegal.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 02:33 PM
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31. Deleted sub-thread
Sub-thread removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 03:26 PM
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32. What press?
:)

They usually ignore these events. The pictures here are from a blog and were taken by a participant at the scene.
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Sneaky Sailor Donating Member (298 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 03:42 PM
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35. The one guy was doing something illegal, he was sitting in the road,
Edited on Mon Oct-22-07 03:44 PM by Sneaky Sailor
blocking traffic


But as I said, the point of Civil Disobedience is to disobey something.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 05:22 PM
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43. Can you verify YOUR experience with Civil Disobedience? n/t
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happygoluckytoyou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 01:28 PM
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17. I KNOW I SPEAK FOR THE PRESIDENT WHEN I SAY---->
I KNOW I SPEAK FOR THE PRESIDENT WHEN I SAY---->

"We will defend to the death your right to protest inside your Gitmo cell. Please excuse the constant growling of Waterboarded Polar Bears. They have secrets, and we know how to make them talk."
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Sneaky Sailor Donating Member (298 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 02:09 PM
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25. Nice Pics
Well, civil disobedience will get you civil punishment...

Indeed that is part of the deal...

That last fella had some good training on the "going limp"

Why no pics of the polar bear?
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texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 03:36 PM
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34. Pots and Pans!!!
All of us need to be there banging loud for Molly and singing it out for Bruce!!

There are more of us than there are of them.
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Sneaky Sailor Donating Member (298 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 04:08 PM
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38. Molly and Bruce??
n/t
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 04:34 PM
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40. ...
Edited on Mon Oct-22-07 04:37 PM by maddezmom

Protesters Gary Herbertson and Gloria Lambden, two of four protesters total, bang pots and pans as they demonstrate against the war in Iraq in what they call The Raise Hell for Molly Ivins Campaign at the Federal Building in West Los Angeles Friday, Oct. 19, 2007. The campaign was inspired by the words of liberal syndicated columnist Molly Ivins, who said in her last column before her January, 2007 death, 'We are the people who run this country. We are the deciders. Every single one of us needs to step outside and take some action to help stop this war. Raise Hell....' (AP Photo/Reed Saxon)

and Bruce:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSFl9KFq_PE

edited to add this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vptKp0COn9g&NR=1

:hi:
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texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 05:04 PM
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42. Molly Ivins and Bruce Springsteen
"We are the deciders. And every single day, every single one of us needs to step outside and take some action to help stop this war. Raise hell. ... We need people in the streets, banging pots and pans and demanding, 'Stop it, now!'"


http://www.alternet.org/stories/47772/

"Well, I think that we've seen things happen over the past six years that I don't think anybody ever thought they'd ever see in the United States. When people think of the American identity, they don't think of torture. They don't think of illegal wiretapping. They don't think of voter suppression. They don't think of no habeas corpus. No right to a lawyer you know. Those are things that are anti-American.

. . .

"The American idea is a beautiful idea. It needs to be preserved, served, protected and sung out. Sung out."

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/10/04/60minutes/main3330463_page3.shtml


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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 05:30 PM
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44. Absolutely...BANG THOSE POTS...great twin posts w/links btw!
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Blaze Diem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 04:45 PM
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41. I would like to hear the 08 candidates on either side address this
issue and whether they plan to restore Civil rights.
First off, are they aware that they have been chiseled away to siut the current admin's desires.

I want to hear them speak for the people who place their lives in jeapordy by peacefully protesting Bush policy.

I want to know that they value civil rights as much as these people do.
It would be telling of each candidate, in this respect.

I also want to know that the 08 Dem President will never ever refer to our United States of America as "the homeland."
It mocks all those generations of Americans who have gone before us. The truest of patriots.
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frankieT Donating Member (375 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 09:27 AM
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46. when some demonstrators are arrested in Moscow
it's obviously because Russia is not democratic...
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