Pope Refuses to Meet with Condi Rice

[doxieone]

Source: Breitbart.com

Pope refuses to meet Rice: report

Sep 19 12:58 PM US/Eastern


Pope Benedict XVI refused to meet US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice in August, saying he was on holiday, an Italian newspaper reported Wednesday.
Rice "made it known to the Vatican that she absolutely had to meet the pope" to boost her diplomatic "credit" ahead of a trip to the Middle East, the Corriere della Sera daily reported without citing its sources.

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Read more: http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=070919165838.f0y81otc&show_article=1

[hobbit709]

1. When it comes to boosting her diplomatic "credit"

She definitely needs all the help she can get.

[Kool Kitty]

31. "Diplomatic credit"?

Is that what she's supposed to be, a diplomat? She's kidding, right? I thought she just went on long sight-seeing and golfing trips. Not see a lot of diplomacy being accomplished.

[stlsaxman]

42. "Diplo Cred" lol n/t

[Bake]

54. No, silly! Shoe-shopping!

Bake

[Demit]

2. I guess the days of Pope Ratz needing the Bush cartel as much as they need him are over.

He's danced off in his little red shoes with a big fat rasberry to Condi. Tsk tsk. No honor among elites.

[ananda]

3. What credit?

I don't think "Condi" has any diplomatic credit whatsoever
to boost.

[wtmusic]

4. How arrogant

"Getcher ass back from vacation, popester, I need to be seen with you."

Kinda backfired.

[Kolesar]

13. So, the pope is a neocon prop, just like the troops ... eom

[NastyRiffraff]

5. Like Benedict cares about Condi's cred!

Probably he cares more about stuff like this:

No one will say so officially but the refusal may also have been prompted by Ms Rice’s stance in 2003, when she was Mr Bush’s national security adviser. On the eve of the Iraqi conflict, it was Ms Rice who said bluntly that she did not understand the Vatican’s anti-war stance. She treated John Paul II’s envoy, Cardinal Pio Laghi, with a coolness that bordered on disrespect when he was sent to Washington on 2 March 2003 on a desperate mission to avert military intervention. Clearly, the incident has not been forgotten.

http://www.corriere.it/english/rice.shtml

You reap what you sow, Condi. May take awhile, but it does happen.

[CountAllVotes]

20. good

the will and words of JP II live on!!

:kick:

[musette_sf]

30. JP II did more to put the RCC back a century

than any good he might have supposedly done with his "peaceful" demeanor. by now, we might have had female priests and more common-sense attitude about BC had JP I not been bumped off for that medieval anti-woman hack.

[Aviation Pro]

6. I wonder when these....

...motherfuckers are going to get the hint?

[ladywnch]

7. oh SNAP! eom

[bitchkitty]

50. LMAO! You beat me to it. n/t

[Lone_Star_Dem]

8. That was one wicked little leak from the Vatican.

This wasn't just a snub, it was a scathing blow to the egos of the bush administration.

[LisaM]

9. Finally, this Pope does something I like!

Well, that and his snappy red hat.

[CountAllVotes]

21. give him a slight break

he happens to be a cat lover fyi. :D

[Fearless]

26. So are many Asian cultures, except they eat them.

:nopity:

[democrat2thecore]

51. self-delete / posted under wrong sub-thread

self-delete
Meant to post under original thread

[onehandle]

10. Good for him. nt

[varun]

11. Maybe the pope found out that Condi is a lesbian

and lives with an unmarried liberal woman.

[truthisfreedom]

14. Egg-zackly.

[Rambis]

12. * talks to god all the time

is * afraid god will say no to street cred for Condi?

[The Roux Comes First]

15. How About "Boosting Her Diplomatic Credit" by

Doing Some Diplomacy??!

Makes you wonder what they teach at Stanford these days, ehh?

Miss no chance to cut corners?

The end justifies the means??

Playing by the rules is for losers???

[Auntie Bush]

45. "Playing by the rules is for losers" Sounds like straight out of the

mouth of the "Queen of Mean".

[CatholicEdHead]

16. Trying to get Papal approval or at least neutrality with Iranian policy

Even though the Vatican has been against Iraq from the start.

[lpbk2713]

17. He doesn't want to be used as a prop for another BushCo photo-op.

.... the same way her boss uses the 'troops' as cheap backdrops for his photo-ops.

[Hardrada]

18. They should have told her off in Latin as well.

Pontifex maximus Benedictus absconditus est, Condille! Ite, missa est!

[shain from kane]

19. Fuckus tu. n/t

[MUAD_DIB]

39. Gloria olivæ! Pontifex Maximus Benedictus!

[DLnyc]

22. Connect the dots

. . .
. Catholic Church has been criticized for collaborating with, or at least only weakly resisting, the Nazis
. Catholic Church in Argentina is currently being exposed as having collaborated in the "Dirty War" there
. Pope doesn't want to be seen as associated with BushCo's warmongering regime
. . .

[goforit]

23. Rice just butts in anytime she wants.

And I'm not crazy about this pope either.

[eringer]

24. Given that both are Single and are known to be Clotheshounds...

Maybe he just hadn't time to shop for a new pair of red Prada loafers for the visit. :nuke:

[shenmue]

37. Well, at least Condi doesn't have to wear a giant tacky hat as part of her responsibilites of office

I'll say that much for her.

[Fearless]

25. So what she's saying is...

That before she heads into a primarily Muslim region, with the intention, I assume of assuaging all these petty little childish disputes :sarcasm:, that she's going to see the Catholic Pope, to boost her credibility? One question... Credibility in the region or amongst the Conservative Christian base?

[damntexdem]

27. But Benny absolutely didn't have to meet with Condi.

;-)

[billyoc]

28. Well, I was but a lowly altar boy,

but I wouldn't meet with that liar either.

[recovering democrat]

29. You Can't Always Get What You Want

Well this Pope actually did something I like!

That she absolutely had to meet the Pope somehow reminded me of the Rolling Stones' song, You Can’t Always Get What you Want

So I am dedicating that song today to SOS Rice, particularly this verse:

I saw her today at the reception
In her glass was a bleeding man
She was practiced at the art of deception
Well, I could tell by her blood-stained hands
Say it!

(You can't always get what you want) yeah!
(You can't always get a-what you want) ooo-yeah, baby!
(You can't always get a-what you want)
But if you try sometime, you just might find
You just might find
You get what you need

Amen!

[JNelson6563]

32. Bravo!

:rofl:

[BR_Parkway]

33. The Catholic leader gives credit for the Jewish/Muslim communities?

How many ways doesn't that make any sense? No wonder she can't get jack accomplished.

[onager]

34. Just like Condi, I'm headed back to the Middle East...

...tomorrow. Back to Egypt, where I've spent nearly the past 2 years. (And should be spending 2 more.)

I don't know why they bother sending Rice to that part of the world. She has zero credibility. About the nicest thing I can say is that, diplomatically, she may be slightly less of an embarassment than Karen "Support Your Secret Police" Hughes.

The last time she came to Egypt, Rice allegedly met with Pres. Hosni Mubarak in private and twisted his arm to show more support for the mAdministration's Iraq...uh, policies.

Mubarak answered her in public, with both of them standing on a stage, and according to the Egyptian press reports it was not pretty. Basically Rice was forced to stand there on a stage, with that frozen rictus of a smile on her stupid face, while Mubarak gave her and her boss a serious verbal thumping.

[lovuian]

35. Pope is afraid One of Iran's missiles is pointing at the

Vatican
and I bet they are

[shenmue]

36. The Pope does not support this war.

At least he's consistent about that. :thumbsup:

[heliarc]

38. She wants to boost her cred...

by showing allegiance with an ex-nazi, protector of sex-offenders. That sounds just like the GOP I know.

[ShortnFiery]

40. But what does it reveal about the BFEE if even HE won't meet with them?

:wow:

[Cha]

41. I thought he liked buSHITS? n/t

[rateyes]

43. Personally, I don't give a damn about

either one of them.

[RufusTFirefly]

44. Two snubs?

Wasn't this about the same time that Condi couldn't convince a single newspaper to run her propaganda op-ed piece? She must have been fuming.

[sjdnb]

46. While I may believe Condi is useless..

so is the 'Pope'. Just an old guy in a long robe put in a position of make-believe power by an all too long perpetuated myth.

Does anyone still care what this 'false idol' thinks?

[Hardrada]

47. Actually, yes they do!

I have to come to the defense of European Christian Civilization every so often.

[dailykoff]

48. Benny's catching on.

I wonder if he's figured out that those "Muslim" protests against him a while back were ginned up by the U.S. of CIA?

[olddad56]

49. Can't blame the pope, I wouldn't want to be seen with her either.

[democrat2thecore]

52. Capitalism: Is DU Aware That This Pope HATES Capitalism?

Pope Benedict, is clearly far to the left of our own Democratic Party on economic issues. While very conservative theologically, the Pope is ultra-liberal on economic justice. He even admits to being much more so than he was in the 1980's when he fought "Liberation Theology."

From AP story on Benedict's book, "Jesus of Nazareth".....

"Jesus of Nazareth" covers several key points of Jesus' public life and ministry, including an entire chapter on his sermon on the mount, in which he praises the poor, the meek and the hungry in the "Beatitudes." Benedict then reflects on how the sermon is relevant in today's world.

"After the experiences of totalitarian regimes, after the brutal way in which they trampled on men, mocked, enslaved and beat the weak, we understand anew those who hunger and thirst for justice," Benedict writes.

"Confronted with the abuse of economic power, with the cruelty of capitalism that degrades man into merchandise, we have begun to see more clearly the dangers of wealth and we understand in a new way what Jesus intended in warning us about wealth."

Benedict continues that message in another chapter on the biblical parable of the Good Samaritan, and the need to love one's neighbor. In it, Benedict decries how the wealthy have "plundered" Africa and the Third World, both materially and spiritually, through colonialism.

-Snip-


Rich countries continue to do harm to the Third World by giving aid that is purely technical in nature, he says. "This aid has set apart religious, moral and social structures that existed and introduced their technical mentality in the void," he writes.

You can read excerpts of Pope Benedict's Encyclical: On Giving Capitalism a Human Facehere:
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9D0CEED9133CF930A35756C0A967958260&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=print

I don't agree with the Pope's conservative social message (though, he is a Catholic and he is what he is), but we really should support his loud voice and bully pulpit against unrestrained capitalism.

[Drunken Irishman]

53. The Pope is also appointing very liberal [by Catholic standards] Archbishops/bishops.

Many conservatives are fuming at Pope Benedict because nearly every one of his appointments have been liberal, or at least perceived to be far more liberal than traditional conservative Catholics.

In Salt Lake our bishop was George Niederauer, a very progressive Catholic who even opposed a law banning gay marriage in Utah. He was appointed the Archbishop of San Francisco and his replacement here in Salt Lake is yet another very progressive Catholic, John C. Wester.

He's definitely not liberal on a lot of issues (especially abortion and gay marriage), but that's not a surprise. However, he's appointing very ideological liberals to key posts, possibly one that will follow him when he dies.