"Five Heroes" From Cuba Await Their Fate

[Judi Lynn]

Source: CBS News

"Five Heroes" From Cuba Await Their Fate
Arrested In 1998 For Spying On The U.S., 5 Cubans Await Court Ruling That May Bring Freedom
MIAMI, Sept. 3, 2007

(CBS) The memories are 11 years old, but still make Jose Basulto red with anger.

The Cuban exile was flying a private plane toward Cuba in February 1996 when he saw a flash and smoke, reports CBS News correspondent Kelly Cobiella.

Cuban fighter pilots shot down two other private planes flying alongside Basulto, killing four of his friends.

They had been on a mission with Brothers to the Rescue, a Cuban exile group, which had been flying missions into Cuban airspace to drop anti-Castro leaflets over Havana. Basulto didn't know it at the time, but his group had been infiltrated by Cuban spies.
(snip)

In Cuba, the spies are known as the "Five Heroes," wrongfully imprisoned. Meanwhile, the man Havana considers responsible for the worst of terrorism in Cuba, Luis Posada Carriles, is a free man living legally in Miami. Posada is accused of bombing a Cuban airliner in 1976, killing 73 passengers. To Cubans, he's a symbol of U.S. hypocrisy in the war on terror.







Read more: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/09/03/eveningnews/main3229234.shtml

[geomon666]

1. Basulto is a piece of shit and murderer at worst.

He knew they'd be shot down going over Cuban airspace and he led those men to their deaths. Now he uses their memory to fund his terrorist/mafia buddies. Fuck him.

[IndianaGreen]

2. Their "crime" is that they were reporting Miami-based terrorist activities

and yes, Basulto is a piece of shit!

[Mika]

6. During their S Fla trial, there was evidence presented of the BttR terror ops.

There was testimony, and video, from tourist witnesses and Cuban witnesses of the BttR planes over-flying Cuba dropping grenades, incendiary devices, shooting at tourists on the beaches, as well as dropping leaflets, not to mention their violation of Cuban airspace and completely disregarding Cuban Air Traffic Control many dozens of times (an infraction of and international agreement that gets one's pilots license revoked, which never happened to Basulto (until after the shoot-down) or other BttR pilots) .

Apparently, if its US based terrorism against Cuba, then its good terrorism ("freedom" fighting).



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[Bacchus39]

25. who was on trial?

it wasn't the BTTR now was it? firing on tourists on the beach from aircraft. please!!

[ProudDad]

3. For more about the injustice done to the Cuban 5

http://www.freethefive.org/

The Cuban Five’s mission was to stop terrorism

For more than 40 years, anti-Cuba terrorist organizations based in Miami have engaged in countless terrorist activities against Cuba, and against anyone who advocates a normalization of relations between the U.S. and Cuba. More than 3,000 Cubans have died as a result of these terrorists’ attacks.

Terrorist Miami groups like Commandos F4 and Brothers to the Rescue operate with complete impunity from within the United States to attack Cuba—with the knowledge and support of the FBI and CIA.

Therefore, Cuba made the careful and necessary decision to send the Five Cubans to Miami to monitor the terrorists. The Cuban Five infiltrated the terrorist organizations in Miami to inform Cuba of imminent attacks.

[clixtox]

4. Amazing how this story has remained below the horizon!

Another telling example of how the USA has slipped into fascism without making a ripple.

There are already so many victims of our corrupt kangaroo courts.

These men are heroes by any objective assessment.

We all know where the worst, deadliest terrorists are and you don't have to get your feet wet to walk there from Pennsylvania Ave. in DC!

[Judi Lynn]

5. Chile University Demands Release of Cuban Five

Chile University Demands Release of Cuban Five
Posted: 2007/09/01

Professors and students in the University of Santiago de Chile ''USACH'' demanded the release of the five Cuban men unfairly imprisoned in the U.S, during a meeting to pay homage to the Cuban Revolution.

Havana, Aug 31 (acn) The activity was organized by the "Rector Enrique Kirberg" Solidarity-with-Cuba Committee and by the Ernest Mandel Socialist Nucleus of the University of Santiago de Chile. Participants demanded the liberation of Cuban anti-terrorists Rene Gonzalez, Gerardo Hernandez, Ramon Labañino, Antonio Guerrero and Fernando Gonzalez, who have been unfairly jailed for nearly nine years.

The Cuban men have been serving severe sentences for having monitored Miami-based hard-line groups, which have organized and conducted criminal actions to crush the Cuban people and its revolution.

Noemi Sepulveda, with USACH and president of the solidarity-with-Cuba committee, highlighted the bonds of friendship between Chile and Cuba and with the Cuban revolution, while also reading verses of poet Pablo Neruda, reported PL.

Present at the meeting, Cuba's academic attaché Olga Fernandez Rios, thanked the Chilean professors, officials and students of the university for the support they expressed.

http://mathaba.net/news/?x=562641

[GirlinContempt]

7. Thanks Judi Lynn

This needs attention!

[Bacchus39]

8. Cuba admits they were sent for spying, case closed

n/tThe U.S. arrested the Cuban Five as part of a group of alleged spies known as the "Wasp Network". One member of the five, Gerardo Hernandez, infiltrated Brothers to the Rescue, seen by Cuba as a terrorist group, and, according to the U.S. government, sent information back to Cuba that led to two civilian planes being shot down. The U.S. also accused the remaining four of lying about their identities, trying to infiltrate the U.S. Southern Command headquarters in West Miami-Dade using other agentsand sending 2,000 pages of unclassified information obtained from U.S. military bases to Cuba. The network received clandestine communications from Cuba via the Atención numbers station.

All five were arrested in Miami, Florida, in September 1998 and were indicted by the U.S. government on 26 different counts. The charges included: the use of false identification, espionage and conspiracy to commit murder.

After the arrests, petitions by the defense to move the trial out of Miami were refused, although the jury consisted of no Cuban-Americans. They spent almost three years in jail between their arrest and the beginning of their trial. The trial went on for seven months and jury deliberations lasted four days.

On June 2001, they were convicted of all 26 counts by a U.S. federal court in Miami and in December sentenced to varying terms in maximum-security prison: two consecutive life terms for Hernández, life for Guerrero and Labañino, 19 years for Fernando Gonzáles, and 15 years for René Gonzáles.

On August 9, 2005, a three-judge appellate panel of the 11th circuit court of appeals in Atlanta overturned the convictions and sentences of the Cuban Five and ordered a new trial saying that the Cuban exile community in Miami and the trial publicity made the trial unfavorable and prejudicial to the defendants.

<1> In November 2005 this ruling for a new trial was reversed by the full panel of 11th circuit court <2> . As of now the original convictions are reinstated. A rehearing is pending in the 11th United States circuit court of appeals.

[IndianaGreen]

10. American based terrorism is a virtue in your book?

What if the US were to send spies to Iran to see if the Iranians are running terrorist operations against our troops in Iraq, and the American spies were captured and send to jail? You would be the first to howl for justice!

This is the same thing!

[Pavulon]

11. It is espionage, has a long history

before the US existed, before castro, before communism. The punishment for spying for a foreign power is generally trial and death.

They were acting as agents of a foreign government, undeclared, in the us. That is a crime, so they now go to jail.

Very simple.

And yes, if americans are caught spying in iran they can be expect to be jailed, at best. Of course the people who spy for us know that before they take the job.

[IndianaGreen]

12. Cuba complained of terrorist activities and the US government did NOTHING!

Or are you of the school that thinks that the Cuban people should just sit inside a high rise waiting for a jetliner to crash into the building?

[Pavulon]

13. Apples and oranges, lets stick to apples

undeclared agents of a foreign power operating inside the US are subject to arrest. Lets agree on that.

The cuban people are waiting for the last vestige of the USSR to die. The sooner it dies the sooner they can move forward to a democratic state.

Just my opinion. I know we will not agree on that.

[IndianaGreen]

14. Then you support the US extraditing to Italy all those CIA agents that kidnapped an Islamic leader

and flew him to another country to be tortured. Italy indicted over 30 American spies!

The Cuban Five were not engaged in rendition, like the CIA. They were reporting terrorist activities to protect the Cuban people. Or do you deny the Cuban people the right of self-defense?

Speaking of terrorists, why hasn't the US extradited to Cuba or Venezuela the jetliner bomber Carriles.

[Pavulon]

15. And now we enter the world of espionage

to my knowledge no us agency has claimed any activity in Italy. I am sure if a group of us citizens were engaged in such activity they would be disavowed by their employer.

I do not care about the cuban people's rights to self defense from a cessna. I care about the law in the United States. The US is not attacking cuba. If we did it would not involve single engine private aircraft.

These types of activities date back to when there were kings in England and power in Rome.

I do not labor under the delusion that governments can exist without intelligence structures.

Maybe state is worried Carriles will not get a fair trial..

[IndianaGreen]

17. The US is not attacking Cuba?

You have been drinking too much of that CANF Kool-Aid!

[Pavulon]

18. Oh wait, did we put up a naval blockade?

are getting ready to attack soviet icbm's...Short of a policy that has run through many sitting presidents to embargo us money from their economy the US is not attacking a 3rd world communist dictatorship. We are waiting for it to die.

Please cite incidents (in this century) of us attacks on cuba!

[Judi Lynn]

20. They run attacks continually from Miami. Of course the U.S. government doesn't do anything in an

official capacity: one of the conditions in the agreement with Russia is that the U.S. would NOT directly invade Cuba.

Cuban terrorists have boasted to reporters that the FBI has caught them in the ocean in boats loaded with weapons, headed for Cuba, and have "looked the other way."

They have been CAPTURED and shown on Cuban tv, testifying to their own nasty plans. They murder people. Rodolfo Frometa himself has boasted of his murder of a Cuban "spy" who had returned to Cuba before the U.S. Government rounded the remaining people up.

Please allow me:

miaminewtimes.com | Febrero 6, 2003
Frometal Jacket
The extreme idealism of F-4 commander Rodolfo Frometa
BY KIRK NIELSEN



Pop morality quiz: An organization with offices in the United States has assassinated a foreign spy in that agent's homeland, or tried to do so. This is: A) right, B) wrong, C) legal, D) illegal, E) the kind of activity U.S. and Cuban authorities should be investigating.

If you live in Miami there's a good chance your head is already swirling with questions you want to ask before responding. For example, was the target a spy for Tony Blair or that tyrant Fidel Castro?

Comandos F-4 chief Rodolfo Frometa answers "A" because the target was Juan Pablo Roque, post-Soviet Cuba's most notorious spy. Roque is the debonair pilot who is now reviled in el exilio for marrying a Miami girl, Ana Margarita Martinez, then dumping her in an extreme example of putting his work before his relationship. Their matrimony was part of Roque's cover identity that enabled his infiltration of Brothers to the Rescue, the men who flew Cessnas over the Florida Straits in the early to mid-Nineties to spot hundreds of Cuban rafters trying to ride the Gulf Stream to freedom, or at least a free-market economy. Roque split for Havana in February 1996 just a few days before a Cuban MiG destroyed two Brothers to the Rescue planes over the straits, killing four of the group's members. An FBI investigation found that Roque had provided information to his superiors in Havana related to the Brothers' flight plans.

The alleged hit on Roque, according to Frometa, occurred this past December 16 near the intersection of Ayesteran and Boyeros in the El Cerro section of Havana. It was carried out by several F-4 members based in Havana. A policeman named Luis Ramirez Echeverria died in the shootout, as did one Ramon Sosa, a 32-year-old member of the F-4 hit squad. Roque was severely wounded and hospitalized. "I can't assure you that he is still alive," Frometa said last week. "He could be dead already."
(snip/...)

http://www.comandosf4.org/newspaper/2003-02-06.htm

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When they do these things, and boast publicly, talking to newspapers about it, and the U.S. Government doesn't lift a finger to move against this activity, WHICH IS ILLEGAL IN THE UNITED STATES, then it should be assumed the U.S. Government, under the leadership of a vile P.O.S. who shouldn't be there, SUPPORTS the terrorism.

_Bush has even allowed a well known Miami terrorist to sit on the same stage, behind him, in Miami when he was giving speeches there.

_Bush released 2 Cuban assassins from prison, after they bombed/slaughtered a Chilean pro-Cuba diplomat and his American secretary, injuring her husband, on the streets of Washington, D.C. in broad daylight. _{George W. Bush} believes they shouldn't be forced to while away their time in prison and released them soon after he stole the Presidency.

[Pavulon]

21. And now the actors

just need to admit what they did to the FBI...

Until then, it is outside the purview of the us court system. Again governments tend to do stuff like this, or pay to have it done. Been that way for a very long time.

What should the government charge them with for an alleged act that took place in foreign country?

[Bacchus39]

24. seems Cuba has been occassionally effective in fighting off single engine aircraft

by shooting them down.

[Judi Lynn]

26. As you should have noted the opening article reminds you they had been

invading Cuban air space, and dropping things over Havana.

Cuba requested of the U.S. government to keep these a-holes home, and they continued their dirty business.

What do you think would have happened had they been Cuban planes flying over Washington, D.C.?

[Pavulon]

27. The same thing that happens to mexican, colombian, and

other unregistered aircraft invading us airspace DAILY carrying drugs. They would be forced to land and then be subject to penalty of law. We do have the ability to kill them all, we just choose not to.

Are you really advocating for what Cuba did?

[Judi Lynn]

28. I will look for it later, but I've got a quote from Eisenhower who said that

aircraft inside 200 miles off the coast of California would be shot down.

Absolutely advocating. Were they supposed to sit there and continue to allow it? I don't think so.

By the way, you are a little fuzzy on your ideas of what's allowable in U.S. airspace regarding foreign aircraft.

Former Interests Section head, Wayne S. Smsith, said he personally saw the Brothers planes flying so low you could see the insignia on them. HE surely doesn't advocate it. I tend to imagine he's well enough squared away to have a grasp of the situation.

Sorry, I'm leaving for a while. Only stopped back to see what the traffic was here. Will check back.

[Pavulon]

29. You are correct, we CAN shoot down aircraft

from other nations flying into our airspace with no flight plan. However we do not. We DO force them down with armed aircraft and hold people.

Interdiction is reasonable, killing them is not. The coast guard takes reasonable measures to stop this type action.

Cold War rules do not apply to this situation.

[Bacchus39]

30. 200 miles is the Exclusive Economic Zone

from the coast. when did he say that? during WWII?

[Judi Lynn]

34. Here's that quote I mentioned, although I have to admit my memory was a little fuzzy. Quote's great!

Nobody would dare fly from a foreign country into U.S.
airspace to try to drop leaflets over Washington. NORAD (North
American Aerospace Defense) would be ready for a shootdown. But
for a period of months, Jose Basulto, leader of Brothers to the
Rescue, flew from the United States to drop leaflets over Cuba. On
July 13, 1995, he also bombarded Havana with religious medals that
could have injured people below. Playing games with Cuba's defense
forces. Keeping Cuba on alert for what he might drop next.

Cuba requested that the United States stop the provocation
flights. How long could Cuba allow this continuing violation of
Cuban airspace? After all, Basulto is a veteran of the Bay of Pigs
who has committed terrorist attacks like shooting up a hotel, a
theater, and a residential section in Havana in August 1962,
killing 20 people.

Cuba never knows what such terrorist pilots intend to do. In
February 1959, less than a month after the revolutionary army
marched into Havana, a U.S. citizen was arrested after flying a
small plane into Cuba with the aim of assassinating Fidel Castro.
That year alone planes landed to unload invaders along with arms
and ammunition, bombed sugar mills, killed and wounded people on
the streets of Havana, strafed a train full of passengers. In 1960
there were constant bombing raids, primarily on sugar mills but
also on Havana, in addition to regular surveillance flights.

On April 15, 1961, B-26 bombers began "softening-up" attacks
against Cuba before the Bay of Pigs invasion by sea. The CIA
wanted the bombers to look like Cuban planes flown by Cubans so one
pilot flew a B-26 to Miami and posed as a defector, a cover quickly
blown. But defeat at the Bay of Pigs did not bring an end to the
terror caused by pilots from the United States. On January 3,
1962, Cuba protested 119 violations of its territory, 76 by planes
based at the Guantanamo Naval Base.

The CIA's Operation Mongoose, launched in November 1961,
brought more aerial bombardment, weapon drops, sabotage of crops
and industry, occasional landings along the coast, and
assassinations. Cuba was under a state of siege that has continued
to the present day, a war of terror waged from the territory of the
U.S. government that is protected by the mightiest armed forces the
world has ever known.

In the 1950s, President Eisenhower told Admiral Arthur M.
Radford, then chair of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, in a secret
meeting: "If planes were flying 20 to 50 miles from our shores, we
would be very likely to shoot them down if they came in closer,
whether through error or not."......
(snip/...)

http://andromeda.rutgers.edu/~hbf/shoot.htm

[Bacchus39]

41. oh brother, the "revolution" was violent too and it was not quite ended was it?

20 to 50 miles, NOT 200, and we are talking the 50's just after WWII and the beginning of the Cold War. Cuba let the Soviets put missles in and allied themselves with our enemy the Soviet Union.

[Judi Lynn]

43. What IS it you're attempting to say? I posted the article I mentioned, which I had seen years ago.

It's almost predictable people don't remember things like a difference between 20 to 50 miles, and 200 miles, when they mention the article years later!

Could you tell me how this impugns my integrity, or what it could even MEAN? How does that shame me?

What sense can be made of your "the 50's" claim, and the rest of it? I'm not grasping it at all.

Please take some more time to give your idea the chance to come to life before you post. AS it is, it seem like rambling to me.

Russia put in the missiles AFTER the Bay of Pigs as a deterrent to attacking Cuba again. Have you no perception of history?

Cuba has the right to similarly shoot down the same people who have bombed Cuba before. What could be easier to understand?

[ProudDad]

35. WTF do you think would happen

if Cuba sent unarmed single-engine aircraft to drop leaflets urging the overthrow of the U.S. government on downtown Miami?

:wtf:

[Pavulon]

40. The same thing that happens to planes full of coke...

they would be forced to land by the coast guard or air force under threat of shoot down. Interdiction is common, the US does not shoot down aircraft and kill everyone crossing into its airspace.

You can not act as an agent of a foreign government in the us unless you register diplomatically. simple rule. If people break it they can expect jail.

[Judi Lynn]

16. The Cuban men also were spying on the Cuban "exile" terrorists, not the U.S. government.

Funny how they were able to create such a distortion for public consumption. You'd expect them to claim that in Miami, but certainly pay more attention to the facts outside South Florida.

So sad they took their evidence to the FBI to beg for help against these violent cretins, and got arrested THEMSELVES. Clearly they wouldn't have done that if they had done anything they, themselves, believed would send them to prison.

They were far too trusting in the American government, no two ways about it.

It's the same FBI which named Miami "Terror Capital of the United States" several years prior to this, when Cuban "exiles" were bombing, shooting all the other "exiles" who differed with them politically, or who wouldn't support their terrorist activities financially, when they attempted to shake them down. The "Zero" "exile" group was involved in this extortion/terrorism racket.

[Pavulon]

19. They said they were in the US to monitor

activities of groups for a foreign power. That is text book espionage. They were not operating with diplomatic approval. Just because I am trusting in the government and admit to doing something illegal does not make me a hero. It makes me an idiot.

Like people who go to the police when they get robbed in a crack deal.

The rest is background noise.

[Bacchus39]

23. agreed, and Cuba even admits they sent them here

n/t

[ProudDad]

36. Wrong AGAIN!!!

Not espionage...

Check post #33...


Time to get your definitions straight...

[ProudDad]

33. Wrong Again!

IT was NOT espionage:

es·pi·o·nage (ĕs'pē-ə-näzh', -nĭj) n.

The act or practice of spying or of using spies to obtain secret information, as about another government or a business competitor.

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Those terrorists that these patriots were keeping their eyes on were neither the U.S. government nor a "business competitor".

They were terrorists -- killing Cuban People...

The five committed an act of self-defense...not espionage...

[Pavulon]

39. OK

give what they were trying in tehran or any other city and see where you end up. Hint, JAIL. Your rhetoric pretty much excludes any hope of a logical discussion around law. But the bottom line is you cant pull that shit here or any an any other nation and get caught and not expect jail time or worse.

Very old game, very serious consequences.

[Bacchus39]

42. looks like the US Courts will decide that, savvy?

es·pi·o·nage /ˈɛspiəˌnɑʒ, -nɪdʒ, ˌɛspiəˈnɑʒ/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation

–noun 1. the act or practice of spying.

[Bacchus39]

22. it is the risk spies take, if they are in the country under

false pretenses and not part of a diplomatic mission then they are subject to the laws of the country where they reside. don't you agree?

[ProudDad]

44. "don't you agree?"

NO!

They were TRUE patriots protecting their fellow citizens from the terrorists coddled, supported and harbored by the United States.

I have more respect and admiration for them than for any of bush's beady eyed little killers in Iraq or Afghanistan...

[Judi Lynn]

9. Victims of National Security Injustice (Cuban Five)

September 1 / 2, 2007

Victims of National Security Injustice
The Tragic Ordeal of the Cuban Five
By SAUL LANDAU

In some case, however, even the best defenders can't buy justice, especially when the government cites "national security." The Cuban Five case became victims of that phrase that usually means the government will not tell the public what it is doing or why. It reeks with imperial arrogance and often with vengeance as well.

The FBI busted five men (Gerardo Hernández, Antonio Guerrero, Ramón Labañino, Fernando Gonzáles, and René Gonzáles) in 1998 and a Miami jury convicted them in 2001 for conspiracy to commit murder, conspiracy to commit espionage and other serious offenses. The case illustrated the U.S. standard of justice for third world nations that disobey its dictates.

Since Washington had failed to punish Cuba adequately for its near half century of disobedience, the opportunity presented by the Cuban Five fell like a serendipitous apple onto the vengeful ground of the national security elite, the group that wages war and regularly infringes on citizens' rights in order to "protect" the public. This bureaucratic posse inside executive agencies looks at the public as an obstacle to its imperial ambitions, to the notion of accountability as an irritant, the proverbial pimple on a sewer rat's butt. The following story illustrates.

In 2004, John Negroponte, then UN Ambassador en route to becoming Ambassador to Iraq and then top U.S. spy, explained why the security elite would have to reject an offer from the Iranian government (under Khatami) to reopen the U.S. embassy and normalize diplomatic relations. "In the last decades, Vietnam, Cuba and Iran have humiliated the United States," he explained to the diplomat -- a friend of mine -- who delivered the message from the Iranian government. "I suppose we've gotten even with the Vietnamese <4 million killed and 20 plus years of sanctions>, but there's no way we're having relations with Iran or Cuba before they get what's coming to them." Since the elite will not wage war on Cuba -- Cubans will fight back -- they used the Cuban Five as surrogate punishment objects.

In the 1990s, these Cuban nationals infiltrated Florida-based anti-Castro terrorist groups and reported on the terrorists' activities to Havana. In 1998, an FBI delegation traveled to Cuba. Cuban officials gave the FBI some 1,200 pages of material, along with video and audio tapes that incriminated groups and individuals -- their names, weapons they carried or stored and other details that the Justice Department could use to prosecute the terrorists.

The FBI told their Cuban counterparts they would respond in a month. The Cubans are still waiting, but the FBI did use the material. They arrested the Cuban Five. The Justice Department then charged them with felonies.

Irony accompanied injustice. The five admitted they entered the United States to access U.S.-based groups plotting terrorism against Cuba. In fact, U.S. law actually allows people to commit crimes out of a greater necessity, one that would prevent greater harm.

More:
http://www.counterpunch.org/landau09012007.html

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Saul Landau:

An author, filmmaker, scholar and frequent lecturer at colleges and universities, Saul Landau has been affiliated with California State Polytechnic University, Pomona since 1998.

He has been a senior fellow of the Institute for Policy Studies in Washington, D.C. since 1972, and at the Transnational Institute in Amsterdam since 1974. He is also a political analyst and commentator for Pacifica Radio Network News.

His writings have appeared in the New York Times and the Washington Post, and he is the author of an Edgar Award winning book, "Assasination on Embassy Row", a report on the murder of Chilean activist, Orlando Letelier. His latest book, Red Hot Radio, is a collections of his commentaries featured on the Pacifica Radio Network News.

http://www.csupomona.edu/~slandau/

[Mika]

31. So, the mewling Cubaphobes will STFU* the next time Cuba kicks out undeclared foreign agents.

*- shut the f#ck up

The posters supporting the US's jailing of the undeclared Cuban agents seem to mewl-a-plenty when Cuba kicks out foreign nationals who operate as undeclared agents (declaring themselves as tourists while secretly working for the Czech, Polish, and US govs), and Cuba doesn't jail them. These very Cubaphobes go on about the totalitarian regime in Cuba for having kicked them out. As it turns out, these Cubaphobic hypocrites fully support jailing such persons.

As usual, their hypocrisy is hip-boot deep.





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[Bacchus39]

32. of course they should kick them out

they could jail them too.

[ProudDad]

37. They don't jail them...

Those nasty Cubans are more civil and civilized than the great Satan of the North...

[Billy Burnett]

38. So, you are saying that Cuba is soft on crime (compared to the US) in this type of case.

Since Mika has already used the hip boots...

[ProudDad]

45. Actually Cuba is MUCH more civilized in the

treatment of their fellow citizens who commit crimes than anywhere in the U.S.



Your flip-flop reference make no sense...unless it's an indication that you too are among those who are unschooled in the use of sarcasm