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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 10:51 AM
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Report: Feds arrest 4 in alleged JFK airport plot
Edited on Sat Jun-02-07 11:12 AM by spotbird
Source: WNBC-TV

Arrests have been made. No link yet. May involve former or current employees who were Guyanese AQ sympathizers.

On edit:

They planned to bring explosives into JFK to sabotage the fuel lines, thereby cause a massive explosion. Authorities believe the suspects were serious, but they dont know how well-developed the plan was. Only one suspect in custody, the other conspirators may be overseas.

On second edit, from NBC:

"Law enforcement officials said the plot may involved a former airport worker, according to NewsChannel4's Jonathan Dienst, Officials said the plot may involve four people plotting to set off explosive devices on airport grounds.

A news conference is scheduled for 1 p.m. "











Read more: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18999503 /



Buy more duct tape while supplies last.
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 10:52 AM
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1. Does Guyana have WMD, or need to be liberated ?
Edited on Sat Jun-02-07 11:31 AM by hippiechick
:shrug: Jus' askin' ....
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 10:59 AM
Response to Reply #1
12. It used to refer to some Italians in NYC.
Don't know if it still does.

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amandabeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 03:56 PM
Response to Reply #12
57. Are you looking for the word "Gumbah"?
As in the Gumbah Boys?
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 07:40 PM
Response to Reply #57
66. No
Edited on Sat Jun-02-07 07:43 PM by bananas
edit: the earlier posts have been edited - they originally said "Guinea".
http://www.randomhouse.com/wotd/index.pperl?date=199811...
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=guinea

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amandabeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 12:40 PM
Response to Reply #66
74. Ah! Before my time. Thanks. n/t
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 11:02 AM
Response to Reply #1
15. It's Guyana.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guyana

Not Guinea.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guinea

I know. I can't keep them straight either....
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murray hill farm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 01:01 PM
Response to Reply #1
41. Guyana borders Venezuala.
If we could liberate Guyana, we could more easily liberate Venezuela from its OIL.
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conspirator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 01:11 PM
Response to Reply #41
115. lol nt
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 10:53 AM
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2. press conf coming up per cnn -reporting this right now.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 10:54 AM
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3. saying NOT linked to alquida
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 10:55 AM
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4. YET they speculate!! 'al-quida wantabe's"! dam those reporters!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 10:55 AM
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5. now saying this has been in the making for some time now.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 10:59 AM
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11. So why arrest today? Did someone buy an explosive?
Anything?
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 01:44 PM
Response to Reply #11
48. It's time to arrest today.....if this turns out to be another
"dream" by a bunch of guys we'll know it's another fear factor event.....after all the administration needs some positive press! I'm sorry but I don't believe most of this stuff anymore. When they have the proof I'll listen.

Wonder what the Sunday morning news programs will be talking about? Should be talking about the Palast/Conyers meeting and the rogue e-mails, the link of Rove to the Alabama Governor/U.S. attorney story, or all the repukes jumping ship,or immigration or Susan Ralston asking for immunity or more about Tim Griffin... but now with this terrorist event I think those stories will be swept under the rug....again.

Lions, and tigers and bears Oh MY! What color alert are we under or is that obsolete?
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Chulanowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 04:17 PM
Response to Reply #48
59. We are at Ernie. I repeat, we are at an Ernie level alert!
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mconvente Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 06:02 PM
Response to Reply #59
62. LOL!!!! n/t
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tidy_bowl Donating Member (249 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 07:13 PM
Response to Reply #48
65. Sometimes....
....there really is a terrorist attack in the planning. Just saying.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 10:55 AM
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6. ACK! What about Guinea pigs?
Edited on Sat Jun-02-07 10:57 AM by tanyev
Are 'Murkins unknowingly protecting and feeding terrorist sympathizers??????

:scared: :scared:

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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 10:58 AM
Response to Reply #6
9. That's embarrassing.
Damn spell check.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 11:07 AM
Response to Reply #9
16. Whew!! I thought I was going to have to use some robust interrogation techniques on Snuffles.
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 11:10 AM
Response to Reply #16
20. I found it!
Edited on Sat Jun-02-07 11:13 AM by spotbird
I hope it's right this time.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 10:56 AM
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7. Press conference shortly. One arrest of an Al Quaieda wannabe.
All CNN reported this time was that the attack was aimed at ground ops at JFK and had been planned for quite some time!
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 10:56 AM
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8. I smell more Rethuglikkkan bullshit
There was no plot. These are dupes.
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 10:58 AM
Response to Reply #8
10. Lot of news is leaking through the TB guy
obstruction. Time for terra.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 11:00 AM
Response to Reply #10
14. What TB guy obstruction? What have I missed?
Help me here.
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 11:08 AM
Response to Reply #14
17. One example of a story not
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 11:21 AM
Response to Reply #17
28. If it's in Time, it's in the news.
You're right. That's a bit of a biggie.
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INDIA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 12:58 PM
Response to Reply #8
39. Are you psychic? Maybe we should wait past the first 6 hours to make decisions? n/t
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 01:58 PM
Response to Reply #39
50. My first thought was
It's about time for a terror alert. It's been awhile since the last one.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 11:00 AM
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13. Press conference at 1PM est by FBI. Several arrested.
Edited on Sat Jun-02-07 11:02 AM by napi21
One in NYC and several in the Carribean.

Joint Press Conference by FBI & NY terrorism task force.

Now they don't know what the target was and it has been in the works for quite some time!
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 10:16 PM
Response to Reply #13
68. FBI stopped a terrorist attack? Really?
The speakers at the press conference were numnuts!
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 11:08 AM
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18. so does that mean the surge isn't working?
didn't they tell us if we fight them over thre we won't have to fight them here?

The fact is that by attacking a country that had nothing to do with 9/11, has started the ball rolling that will involve us in unending war unless we can get rid of those that led us into this disaster

The problems we have today, require a new way of thinking, and those that caused those problems will not be the ones who solve them. They neither have the capacity or desire to do so

We need a new way of thinking, and that is definitely not provided by the republicans

In fact unless the Democrats do something to stop this madness, the republicans are setting up so we will be in Iraq for years to come

It is pretty bleak the situation we are in, since Congress essentially caved in on the troop funding bill


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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 11:09 AM
Response to Reply #18
19. No, no, not at all.
It means they are effectively protecting us.

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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 11:13 AM
Response to Reply #19
23. Do you have some swamp land in Arizonia for sale also? /nt
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 11:17 AM
Response to Reply #23
25. Nope, but if you're interested,
I do have some oceanfront property for sale in Indiana. The location is a well-kept secret, so if you send cash, I'll pass along the details.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 04:50 PM
Response to Reply #25
61. Thanks for making me smile /nt
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 10:17 PM
Response to Reply #25
69. I thought Dan Quayle had purchased all of that property
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 09:28 AM
Response to Reply #69
70. Aren't there rules about outing people at DU?
I'm reporting you to the administrators to request your account be closed, and the comment which identifies me be deleted. The level of vindictiveness found in some people here is just despicable.
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dethl Donating Member (462 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 11:12 AM
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21. And all the major news channels are having a collective orgasm
Edited on Sat Jun-02-07 11:12 AM by dethl
Gotta keep those Epsilons scared and dumb! :sarcasm:
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 11:40 AM
Response to Reply #21
34. stories like this keeps the private MSM advertisers happy
grab some viers, they watch comercials.......they remain glued to the best "experts opinions" being spun
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calteacherguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 11:12 AM
Response to Original message
22. I'm glad they were apprehended and I hope they get a fair trial
not a Guantanamo Bay type trial, to determine if these allegations are true.
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dethl Donating Member (462 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 11:15 AM
Response to Reply #22
24. Unfortunately we all know that won't happen
eom
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otherlander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 11:17 AM
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26. Steven Colbert predicted this, remember?
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 11:21 AM
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27. This is at least the 3rd group of goofballs that had no realistic plan
to be arrested. It is another "Cry wolf" episode probably. Keep an edge on fear.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 11:24 AM
Response to Reply #27
29. exactly...breaking news: NOTHING HAPPENED
four guys with CRIMINAL aspirations were foiled before they could do anything. Not really much news there, IMO.
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 11:37 AM
Response to Reply #27
32. Maybe they had relatives deported recently in the recent alien roundup.
What are the odds a few sub paid illegals could play into all this?
Should no more in an hour
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 11:29 AM
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30. under surveillance for 6 mos? 3 suspected..arrested (1 ) other suspects overseas..
question; if they were under surveillance for 6 mos..why all tentative info?

Like a Chinese Fire drill...all agencys claiming jurisdiction.. what a mess!
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 02:59 PM
Response to Reply #30
106. DING DING DING! Tellurian, you're our grand prize winner!
if they were under surveillance for 6 mos...why all tentative info?

Sounds like a replay of the last two "foiled" terrorist plots--is this based on the overactive imagination of an FBI infiltrator?

:eyes:
rocknation
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 11:33 AM
Response to Original message
31. disgruntled employee shooting his mouth off ?
and now he's going to GITMO
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AnotherMother4Peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 11:38 AM
Response to Original message
33. I'm skeptical. This is probably a diversion from the protests at the G-8 summit
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 11:46 AM
Response to Reply #33
35. Hmmmm.... I'd argue with you...
but you're likely right!
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Corgigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 12:36 PM
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36. NY terrorism task force
is a much better outfit then the FBI. I knew something was up because I mailed my daughter a package to Manhattan, she will be living in Juilliard for a month, and UPS had to open all packages being mailed to Manhattan. That occurred on Tuesday.

My kid is flying into NYC tomorrow am. I trust NYC on terrorism more then this Federal Govt.
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Chovexani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 12:44 PM
Response to Reply #36
37. Truer words
Edited on Sat Jun-02-07 12:44 PM by Chovexani
My hometown authorities actually know what the fuck they're doing with regards to terrorism. 'Cause, you know, they've actually dealt with it before. Local authorities were instrumental in getting those fuckwits who bombed the WTC the first time around put away.

I feel safer in NY than any other major city.
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 01:12 PM
Response to Reply #36
44. UPS looking for contraband?
The USPO considers it a federal offense to open parcel or anybody else mail. But UPS isn't the USPO either so I guess it's ok.
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Corgigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 06:21 PM
Response to Reply #44
63. We arrived with the packaged sealed
UPS told us they had to open it and look inside. Everything going to Manhattan had to visually inspected. Hubby asked if the Post Office is doing this too, clerk smiled and said, well not in front of you.

We had no problem with it. However that tipped us off that something was up.
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Hawaii Hiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 12:52 PM
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38. This plan was more inspirational than operational
meaning, they didn't have the resources, skills, manpower, etc. to carry out their acts....

But I'm sure the Republican spin bull-shit machine will act like they just prevented WW III...Republicans want all the credit every time a plot gets foiled, yet, they want to bare no blame for 9/11, they want it both ways....
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 01:05 PM
Response to Reply #38
42. New York Times article; was he ready to practice what he preached?
Nothing worse than a bitter ex politician



snip
The plot involved a former airport worker in his 60s, who is a United States citizen of Guyanese descent and lives in New York, and a former member of the Guyanese parliament, who is also an imam.

snip

...the former airport worker had made several trips to Guyana and one trip to Trinidad and Tobago to try to get support for the plot.

The airport worker
sought the support of a Muslim rebel group in Trinidad and Tobago that attacked the parliament there in 1990.

While it does not appear that the four men were close to achieving their goal, law enforcement officials said, their ambition was to detonate fuel tanks ......

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/02/nyregion/02cnd-plot.h...

I had a hunch it would be reported a disgruntled employee was shooting off his mouth.
Maybe he will be sent back down to the Caribbean ? There is a place in Cuba ;)
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 12:59 PM
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40. Chicken little.> More failure in Iraq: grander plots 'uncovered in planning stages' here.
This is bush trying to prove the war in Iraq is needed, look for more of these in proportion to the failure of his policy in Iraq.
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Boxerfan Donating Member (710 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 01:07 PM
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43. Man...I'd hate to be a brown skinned loudmouth 'bout now...
These "terror" plots are so well timed its friggin laughable. Did they have to buy these guys shoes also??
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OnyxCollie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 02:10 PM
Response to Reply #43
53. Jihad boots for everyone! nt
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cosmicdot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 01:18 PM
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45. wonder if they know Bernie Kerik?
Ghouliani's '911' associate/friend, taser profiteer; and, almost "Homeland" Security head

It's just a coincidence Kerik had a consulting job with Guyana in 2006. I'm sure his consulting job was to 'overhaul Guyana's police force' and nothing else, just as they said. He apparently quit recently because of a federal investigation.

Coincidences happen all the time, so loosen the tinfoil (my supply ran out years ago).
:)


Ex-NYC Top Cop To Head Guyana Reforms

Bernard Kerik Will Help South American Nation Fight Crime

GEORGETOWN, Guyana, Sept. 13, 2006

(AP) Guyana's president says former New York City police commissioner Bernard Kerik, who U.S. authorities are reportedly investigating for possible financial improprieties, will oversee reforms to the violence-wracked country's police force.

~snip~

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/09/13/world/main200...


April 12, 2007

Kerik Out of Guyana

By The Empire Zone

The Politicker points out this report http://www.stabroeknews.com/index.pl/article_general_ne... from Guyana, which says that Bernard B. Kerik has decided to pull out of his contract to serve as a security advisor to President Bharrat Jagdeo, because of the federal investigation here at home ,,, ~snip~

http://empirezone.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/04/12/kerik-ou... /



Posted on August 23, 2006

A Kerik Guyana Debacle

OK, this is a little embarassing:

The Government of Guyana claimed it was paying for Bernie Kerik's services with a loan from the Inter-American Development Bank, but the bank says that's not a kosher use of the funds.

In other Kerik news, Len Levitt reports -- in typically restrained fashion -- that the ex-commish is working hard for Pirro ... ~snip~

http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/dailypolitics/2006/08/...



yikes!
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 08:51 PM
Response to Reply #45
67. Kerik and Guyana and misappropriated funds.
Anyone surprised?
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 01:32 PM
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46. The only relevant part of the MSNBC web article--
"Sources said the plot involved putting explosives inside the fuel pipeline but realized that "it was not technically feasible.""

Why am I not surprised?
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 02:43 PM
Response to Reply #46
54. I doubt that it is impossible
'fighters' in Iraq are always blowing up piplines so placing a charge inside a pipe is moot.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 06:24 PM
Response to Reply #54
64. Not impossible in general--just impossible the way the plotters were going to do it n/t
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 05:37 PM
Response to Reply #54
109. It seems it isn't feasible to
ignite the fuel the way they were planning.

The insurgents blow up the pipelines to stop the flow not to ignite it (I would guess).
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 01:40 PM
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47. MSNBC = wall to wall coverage...Rep. Peter King reminding us of constant terror
spewing about how americans forgot after 911 about the terrorists....just horseshit.

CNN is all over this too. terra terra terra
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 01:57 PM
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49. YADA YADA YADA....AND THIS IS THE SAME FAA AND HOMELAND SECURITY
Edited on Sat Jun-02-07 02:01 PM by flyarm
THAT NEVER HAD AIR TRAFFIC CENTERS MONITORED FOR POSIONOUS GASSES... and they kept the ATC SITTING FOR FOUR HOURS with carbon monoxide gassing the controllers ..AND HELD THEM CAPTIVE...AND ONLY ONE MSM OUTSIDE ABC LOCAL NY TOLD THE STORY! KEITH OLBERMAN TOLD THE STORY..THATS IT!!

THIS IS TOTAL BULLSHIT..SINCE THIS WEEK THE HEARING IN THE CONGRESS IS LOOKING INTO THE NSA SPYING ON US..WELL HOWWWWWWWWWWWW CONVIENIENT.................


nobody will tell em that wasn't a plot to say terrorists did it!!

and now we hear this terrorist plot involves the atc for kennedy...and no one is asking well why was the poisining of the atc by carbon monoixde not a msm news story?? 4 weeks ago!!

this is bullshit!!

ANYBODY ELSE SICK OF THIS BULLSHIT?????????

fly
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 02:00 PM
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51. Now? Is it time? Am I supposed to be scared?
Tell me if I'm supposed to be scared please! I don't want to miss out on it.

Thank you MSNBC! Without you I'd never know when to be scared!
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 02:03 PM
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52. Meanwhile there are continuing questions about the Gonzales DoJ
"A DU collaborative investigation: Thelma Colbert, Shannon Ross and other deaths at DoJ"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 03:37 PM
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55. FBI Feared JFK Plotters Linked to Top Terrorist
FBI agents feared but never confirmed the three men accused of plotting to attack John F. Kennedy International Airport in New York were linked to one of the most wanted al Qaeda leaders, Adnan Shukrijumah, known to have operated out of Guyana and Trinidad.

Officials tell the Blotter on ABCNews.com that they heard repeated references to "Adnan" during the extensive wiretaps conducted on the suspects' telephone conversations, including calls to Guyana and Trinidad.

There is a $5 million reward for information on Shukrijumah, who officials consider extremely dangerous because of the years he spent living in the Miami area and his known ties to al Qaeda. Some of the 9/ll hijackers attended a south Florida mosque run by Shukrijumah's now deceased father.

Shukrijumah left the United States just a few months before September 2001.



http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2007/06/fbi_feared_...
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 04:07 PM
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58. perhaps they were referring to adnan khashoggi?
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cigsandcoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 03:50 PM
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56. Bush is creating more Muslim terrorists.
This was widely predicted.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 04:37 PM
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60. One of the terraists was going to Venezuela....
There's the Hugo connection! :eyes:
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 10:02 AM
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71. SHouldn't they schedule the press conference at the same time as the debate?
That would make Fox REALLY happy.
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 10:03 AM
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72. Kick
Since this seems to be the original post.
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 11:46 AM
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73. kick again
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FVZA_Colonel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 01:16 PM
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75. Authorities charge 4 in NYC terror plot
Source: Associated Press

NEW YORK - Federal authorities announced Saturday they had broken up a suspected Muslim terrorist cell planning a "chilling" attack to destroy John F. Kennedy International Airport, kill thousands of people and trigger an economic catastrophe by blowing up a jet fuel artery that runs through populous residential neighborhoods.

Three men, one of them a former member of Guyana's parliament, were arrested and one was being sought in Trinidad as part of a plot that authorities said they had been tracked for more than a year and was foiled in the planning stages.

"The devastation that would be caused had this plot succeeded is just unthinkable," U.S. Attorney Roslynn R. Mauskopf said at a news conference, calling it "one of the most chilling plots imaginable."

In an indictment charging the four men, one of them is quoted as saying the foiled plot would "cause greater destruction than in the Sept. 11 attacks," destroying the airport, killing several thousand people and destroying parts of New York's borough of Queens, where the line runs underground.


Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070603/ap_on_re_us/terrori...
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Virginian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 01:16 PM
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76. Balderdash - Hype Hype Hype.
For a couple of years after 9/11, the jet fuel tanks for Dulles International Airport (IAD) loomed just a few yards from busy Route 28, protected by nothing more than a chain link fence.

Now there is a concrete wall between the tanks and the highway. If Jet fuel tanks could be blown up that easily, don't you think that wall would have been in place within a week after a plane departing from that same airport crashed into the Pentagon?

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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 01:16 PM
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77. Trinidad holds 2 in alleged terror plot
Trinidad holds 2 in alleged terror plot By TONY FRASER, Associated Press Writer
22 minutes ago



PORT-OF-SPAIN, Trinidad - Two men allegedly involved in a plot to attack New York's John F. Kennedy International Airport were in custody in Trinidad and Tobago on Saturday and the police commissioner said authorities were scouring the Caribbean country for a third suspect still at large.

Trevor Paul, the top police official in the twin-island nation off Venezuela's coast, identified the arrested suspects as Abdul Kadir, 55, a Guyanese Muslim and former member of the South American nation's Parliament, and Kareem Ibrahim, a 56-year-old from Trinidad.

Both were arrested on U.S. warrants and are suspected of involvement in a plan to blow up a fuel line feeding the airport, Paul told a news conference.

more:http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070603/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/t... ;_ylt=Anc2vKDB6NAIjV6DmyMkeZBvaA8F
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 01:16 PM
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86. They were arrested on US warrants, why are they still in Trinidad?
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 01:16 PM
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78. Hey, what happened to the flypaper?
Since that's not working can our soldiers come home now?
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tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 01:16 PM
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79.  Wow. Another easily foiled terrorist plot. Is it election season already?
:boring:





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Screwfly Donating Member (159 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 01:16 PM
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80. Man, that dude is laying it on kind of thick ain't he?
If the fuel lines under JFK and the surrounding area build so poorly a guy cigarette lighter could blown the place into orbit we have something more than terrorism to worry about.
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 01:16 PM
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81. was there a white house....
Edited on Sun Jun-03-07 05:36 AM by dennis4868
document dump yesterday? I must have missed it because of the news that Bush is proecting us from the bad guys :-(
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 01:16 PM
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82. Meanwhile on the other side of the pond:
Top story on BBC UK:

Brown plans new anti-terror laws

"Gordon Brown is planning a raft of new anti-terror laws when he becomes prime minister this month, it has emerged"

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6715885.stm

Top story on BBC World:

Hunt for NY airport 'bomb plotter'

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/6715985.stm


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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 01:16 PM
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83. 4 charged with terror plot at JFK airport
4 charged with terror plot at JFK airport
POSTED: 4:05 a.m. EDT, June 3, 2007
Story Highlights FBI ties terror plot to South American, Caribbean extremists
Suspect's wife denies he was part of any plot
Suspect compares plot with 9/11 in wiretapped remarks, transcript shows
Former cargo worker arraigned in federal court in New York

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NEW YORK (CNN) -- Four men have been charged with conspiring to blow up jet fuel supply tanks and pipelines at John F. Kennedy International Airport.

Homeland Security sources said there is no current threat at the airport and the attack as planned was "not technically feasible."

The alleged plot did not target airplane flights, officials said.

A wiretap transcript given to CNN by the FBI indicates the plotters targeted the airport because of the popularity its namesake, John F. Kennedy, who was assassinated in 1963.

"Anytime you hit Kennedy, it is the most hurtful thing to the United States. To hit John F. Kennedy, wow ... they love JFK -- he's like the man," former JFK airport cargo worker Russell Defreitas allegedly said in a telephone conversation monitored by the FBI. ................

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/06/02/jfk.terror.plot/index....

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 01:16 PM
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84. Group tied to extremists in South America, Caribbean
Group tied to extremists in South America, Caribbean
The Justice statement said the men began planning the assault on January 6. A complaint alleges that the plot tapped into an international network of Muslim extremists from the United States, Guyana and Trinidad.

"The defendants had the connections to present their terrorist plot to radical groups in South America and the Caribbean, including senior leadership of Jamaat Al Muslimeen ('JAM'), which was responsible for a deadly coup attempt in Trinidad in 1990," said Mark J. Mershon, assistant director-in-charge of the FBI's New York field office.

"As the complaint alleges, defendants Kadir and Nur were longtime associates of JAM leaders. Defendant Kareem was also preparing to send an emissary overseas to present the plan to extremist networks there when law enforcement stepped in to disrupt it," Mershon said.

An official described the suspects as "al Qaeda wannabes."

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robcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 01:16 PM
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85. That's a nasty conspiracy.
I'm glad they caught them.
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Psephos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 10:14 PM
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112. Looks like you're the only one
'cept me
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whopis01 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 01:17 PM
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87. Authorities Foil Terror Plot Against JFK Airport
Source: CBS

Russell Defreitas, a U.S. citizen native to Guyana and retired airport employee was the mastermind behind a plot to destroy John F. Kennedy International Airport, kill thousands of people and trigger an economic catastrophe by blowing up a jet fuel artery that runs through populous residential neighborhoods, authorities said Saturday.

Defreitas developed his hatred for America a decade ago while working as a cargo handler at JFK airport. While working at the airport, he said he saw military parts being shipped to Israel that he thought would be used to kill Muslims. Last August, he began planning an attack along with three other Muslim men, one of which was an FBI informant. The FBI says they have recorded several conversations between the two during an 18-month investigation. Sources tell CBS 2 that on Friday, Defreitas told the informant he believed the authorities may be on to him, prompting the feds to move in.

Three of the men were arrested and one was being sought in Trinidad on Saturday. In an indictment charging the four men, one of them is quoted as saying the plot would cause greater destruction than in the Sept. 11 attacks.

Anytime you hit Kennedy, it is the most hurtful thing to the United States, he said on a recording made by a police informant. They love John F. Kennedy like hes the man ... Its like you can kill the man twice.

Read more: http://wcbstv.com/topstories/local_story_153122828.html



Yet another massive terra attack foiled. I'm sure we sure be on our knees thanking our glorious leaders for having the forsight to record all our phone conversations to protect us against rogue cargo handlers like this.
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 01:17 PM
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88. Excuse my skepticism.
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glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 01:17 PM
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89. Though this has been posted several times already... I'll add to this
post. I think their is a suspicious link with all these FBI guys. How much of the plot is an origination of the pissed off "terrorist" and how much is inflamed by the FBI guy who promises he/she can make it happen?

And I do think it is a real shame that we are sending so many weapons made in America to be shipped off to other countries to hurt people. Its time to stop making money on weapons trade. Its time to put the whole machine out of business.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 01:17 PM
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90. but...but...I thought we were fighting them over there so they wouldn't come here....
:sarcasm:
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 01:17 PM
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91. Prediction:
Four guys will spend a few years in jail. Ultimately, this case will fall apart like a cheap suit in the spin cycle. They will be convicted on some bullshit, face-saving, much-reduced charges, like conspiracy to commit mopery.
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 01:17 PM
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99. My prediction., a 60 yr old shooting his mouth off
leads him to test the laws about terrorism.
Sure
His lawyer will scream "Freedom of Speech" and the MSM talking heads will discuss it among themselves but;
You are not allowed to falsely scream FIRE in a movie theater and you are not allowed make idle threats to the general public.
ie, school bomb threats are no difference than aviation bomb threats.
So this guy will have to spend his twilight years being


bubbas biatch
or,


preaching to a captive audience.
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LuckyLib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 01:52 PM
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104. Will they be jailed with the idiots from the Florida warehouse conspiracy?
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 01:17 PM
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92. Fast-forward the story a day or two from now
In the C18 section of most papers:

Russell Defreitas, it turns out, had made idle threats at a local bar a couple years ago. He and his three friends had no real experience in explosives training and would not have been able to drive onto the JFK airport premises with a truck full of explosive gas, since that process is already heavily monitored.

Go Homeland Security!

:sarcasm:






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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 01:17 PM
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93. How many peo[ple did they have to water board
and how many illegal wiretaps did it take to foil this brilliant plan?

I believe the answer is zero.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 01:17 PM
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94. He was from Iraq, Right?.. Right??
:sarcasm:
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 01:17 PM
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95. Just in time to pollute the airwaves before the Democratic Debates...
Edited on Sun Jun-03-07 09:58 AM by Prag
Imagine THAT! What a coincidental coincidence of the coincided! :shrug:
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 01:17 PM
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96. Fight them over there, so we don't have to...
How did that song go?


I forget the lyrics... :sarcasm:
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TheWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 01:17 PM
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97. So This Means The Illegal Occupation HAS been worth it!
We should invade even more sovereign countires based on lies and profiteering.

Just think how much MORE we can Support The Troops and how SAFE we'll be THEN!

Bush is teh awsumness!

:sarcasm:
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 01:17 PM
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98. Well now, see how the war in Iraq makes it possible to foil these
plots over here? :sarcasm:

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hazmaq Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 01:17 PM
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100. Only a bully never asks "WHY"?
Why weren't the Chinese who tampered with our pet food supply called terrorists?
Why weren't the Texas boys who blew up an apartment building by mixing the very same 'liquids', called terrorists right before the 'BRITISH TERRORISTS' were planning to mix the same chemicals.

I'm so sick of watching Colonialists jump on the 'terrorist' bandwagon whenever they hear angry 'dark skinned' people talk of revenge.

Got news for you Hillary, and Hoyer and Lieberman! (Who now sound like Bush in their joint use of 'terror or '9-11' in every stump speech).

There are now more white, brown, yellow, and GREEN people who hate America's policies and their Right-wing course than you can possibly imagine.

And until Congress finally listens to them explain WHY, and acts to correct the imbalances and injustices responsibe for creating such worldwide hate, they doom our children to a hellish future.



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downindixie Donating Member (321 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 01:17 PM
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101. Bull crap
Blowing up the pipelines would only cause a fire at the explosion point.The fire would not have traveled up the pipeline and blown up neighborhoods.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 01:17 PM
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102. I now believe in wolf clothing more than Cheney and George and
that weird juy Chertoff whose thinking is not from this planet along with the whole bunch of them.

Nope, I have to wait from someone I believe in to believe stuff like this - whether or not it's factual.

They brainwashed me into not believing them. My disbelief started sometime after 44 years ago when John F. Kennedy was murdered by our government with a little help from their friends.

You know - the friends who profit, the friends who are rewarded, the friends who keep getting pardoned, the friends who resurrect each other in key jobs, the friends who become more determined with each year - even going so far as revealing agendas as in the PBAC. The ones the media like and support and live lies for.
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 01:17 PM
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103. Be affffffraid. Be very-very, VERY afraid (don't cross ANY streets!)
The devastation that would be caused had this plot succeeded is just unthinkable, U.S. Attorney Roslynn R. Mauskopf sa (...)

:crazy:

That doesnt mean wackos out there cant do damage and cause a fire, but those explosions and fires are going to be fairly restricted, (Richard Kuprewicz, a pipeline expert) said.


:donut:
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 01:57 PM
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105. The meaning of false flag?
False flag operations are covert operations conducted by governments, corporations, or other organizations, which are designed to appear as if they are being carried out by other entities.

where did they say OBL is?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_flag
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rayofreason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 03:24 PM
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107. Trinidad...hmm...
Trinidad is the only place in the western hemisphere where Islamists have tried to sieze power and institute an Islamic state. It happened in 1990. I was in Port of Spain not long after the coup attempt. The parilment building was pretty shot up.

More from thr Miami Herald -

http://www.miamiherald.com/509/story/127138.html
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 05:42 PM
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110. They also supply oil to the US market
All oil isn't Hugo's.

hmmm... WOnder how Hugo feels about his eastern neighbor

/tin foil screed
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BornagainDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 05:10 PM
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108. This is the kind of shit Bush will keep pumping to justify his staying
in power after 08'.

You should sit down and talk to Joe America. They still don't have a fucking clue about Bush, they jsut watch the box and suck into the fear. It's over.
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HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 06:05 PM
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111. Ho Hum from a New Yorker
I have used JFK many, many times. I live about 30 miles away. Can you say another case of "the gang who couldn't shoot straight" meant to place FEAR in the hearts of the public?

These people had no money, no explosives, no connections, ect., etc.

Just more FEAR MONGERING by our wonderful government.
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Massachusetts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 09:37 AM
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113. The SUBTLE conditioning of the masses continues with success.
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Greyskye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 11:07 AM
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114. NPR reppots that the informant was looking for a sentence reduction
Nothing to see here, move along! :sarcasm:


In the Kennedy airport case, the informant was a twice-convicted drug dealer who found himself in the midst of a terrorist plot conceived as more devastating than the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. However, authorities say the plan was not well developed or far along.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=10...


This snippit doesn't mention the sentence reduction part - but I heard it on Morning Editin this morning.

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