The Rev. Jerry Falwell dies at 73

[TankLV]

Source: The Buffalo News

LYNCHBURG, Va. (AP) - The Rev. Jerry Falwell, who founded the Moral Majority and built the religious right into a political force, died Tuesday shortly after being found unconscious in his office at Liberty University, a school executive said. He was 73.

Ron Godwin, the university's executive vice president, said Falwell was found unresponsive around 10:45 a.m. and taken to Lynchburg General Hospital. Godwin said he was not sure what caused the collapse, but he said Falwell "has a history of heart challenges."

"I had breakfast with him, and he was fine at breakfast," Godwin said. "He went to his office, I went to mine, and they found him unresponsive."

Falwell, a television evangelist who founded the Moral Majority, became the face of the religious right in the 1980s. He later founded the conservative Liberty University and serves as its president.

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[jean]

1. Falwell

[Robbien]

2. Not surprising given the original story

peace be with him

[BlueEyedSon]

184. Sorry, I wish no peace on him

[Exiled in America]

191. I do.

That's why I'm different than he is. I actually wish peace for all persons no matter what they've done.

[LeighAnn]

222. Not me

I do not wish peace for warmongers, but I take no joy when the pay-backs are made.

[L. Coyote]

300. WE are ALL going to DIE. What will they say about us then?

WE are ALL going to DIE. What will they say about us then?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x891012

In the final analysis, "We are ALL one family.

AND, politics is sure a lot of fun for us ALL too.

The 1,099 Trillion Principle.
How many ancestors do we have?

http://jqjacobs.net/anthro/ancestors.html

[Lord Balto]

362. Weenie roast in Hell tonight!

But, But, But..., St. Peter, I'm a man of the cloth!!!

[HockeyMom]

301. My sympathies to his family

I know what it is like to lose a family member, but that is as far as I will go with this.

[bilgewaterbill]

461. Well said! nt

[Ian David]

333. You think Fred Phelps might protest at his funeral? That would be interesting. n/t

[nodehopper]

425. he is!

[Poppy Lee]

470. Peace upon us all

Perhaps his death will bring peace not only to him, but to the thousands of souls his invective has troubled. Measured by the strength of his convictions, Falwell was a giant; measured by the content of his convictions, he was an intellectually and emotionally stunted dwarf.

[unhappycamper]

471. Hi Poppy Lee!

Welcome to DU. :hi:

[ShamanaSZ]

374. On Jerry Falwell

Please send over if any of you has a connection with the Great Beyond administration, since I don't know where Mr. Falwell is at the moment:

May he rest in peace. While, for the record, I don't think that too likely, I hope with all my heart that, in the end of ends, God is more merciful and forgiving than most of us believe or even think possible. Much more than Jerry Falwell did possible, at least.

Fare thee well, Reverend, now you have gone to the One that reverence is truly due. Fare thee well, judge of men, now that you will be judged by the One who has all power to judge, all wisdom and all mercy. Fare thee well, you who urged perfection, now that you have met the only One who is perfect.

Fare thee well - and may the rest of us fare no worse now that you're gone and your voice silenced.

P.S.: It had to happen on a day I was thinking of how compatible at all was televangelism - and making money off it - with the Biblical doctrine. Talk about weird... I think I may have to think happier thoughts from now on, just in case.

[Behind the Aegis]

3. Link

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18679412/

[Tulum_Moon]

7. He is dead

Just confirmed cnn.

[Waya]

42. Ha, there is a God..........

[DeleteRepublicans]

145. We should have a National Holiday

We should have a National Fundamentalist Holiday to Celebrate
his death along with Osama bin Ladin (once we find him) and
Pat Robertson! Any other idiots I left out?

[Lochloosa]

231. Welcome to DU DeleteRepublicans

:toast:

[Waya]

275. James Dobson

[MLFerrell]

307. Fred Phelps too, while you're at it...

[Dark]

462. Ted Haggard. n/t

[anotherCTliberal]

243. You took the words right out of my mouth!

Good riddance!

[Lord Balto]

373. I'm waiting for Pat Robertson's explanation of this...

You don't suppose "God" withdrew his cone of protection?

[Lord Balto]

422. Reincarnation Question

Assuming for the moment that Falwell is wrong and the Buddhists are right, what do you think he will come back as? Personally, if he comes back as a human being, which is doubtful, I'd suspect he and his fundy fellow travelers are destined to be reborn in the war zone in Iraq.

[Frank Cannon]

4. Never talk about the dead without saying something good

He's dead. Good.

(With thanks to the great Moms Mabley.)

[liberal N proud]

10. Cleaver!

[President Jesus]

412. 'Cleaver'?

Good lord. :eyes:

[TankLV]

13. Perfect response to this event...

[roguevalley]

29. all the mysteries of life are clear to him now and he has to face the

totality of his evil.

[zbdent]

146. I wonder what Jesus is telling him about

what Falwell claimed he was about ...

[LiberalFighter]

171. Would Jesus bother? Falwell probably has more to worry about in his new place

[zbdent]

178. Hey, I'm giving him some credit

maybe Jesus ripped him a new one, and then signed off with "buh-bye" ...

[rkc3]

223. He'll be in the Ken Lay Suite - until he gets acclimated to his new

surroundings.

[BonnieJW]

240. What if it isn't Jesus?

What if the almighty is a Jewish woman who's an environmentalist?

[connecticut yankee]

345. Correction

a Black Jewish Lesbian environmentalist who is pro-choice.

[silverojo]

441. And practices witchcraft

And refuses to say "under God" during the pledge, LOL!

[Mad_Dem_X]

36. LOL

If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all, so:










:evilgrin:

[wake.up.america]

139. Don't understand how a person who professed to be one with God could be as he was.

Hope he rests in peace.

[mzmolly]

285. Self loathing perhaps?

I always think people like him are running from their own demons?

I loathed him, but I do hope he's learning the truth about now? And, if so I hope it brings him peace.

[martymar64]

368. He'll rest in peace, but . . .

only if you put a stake in his heart first.

Sorry, but I'm glad he's dead.

[Jamastiene]

426. That is what I'm afraid of, that without a stake through

the heart, it may not really take.

"Falwell survived two serious health scares in early 2005. He was hospitalized in February for two weeks with what was described as a viral infection, then hospitalized again in March with congestive heart failure after being found unconscious. At that time he had to be resuscitated by EMTs at the hospital emergency room."

<snip>

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18679412/

[Stinky The Clown]

49. Good .....

.... riddance

[spotbird]

70. The just rewards for his

acts on Earth are his now. Good.

Tee.Hee.

[lumberjack_jeff]

73. Oh noes!!! Who is going to pray the hurricanes away now! n/t

[NYCGirl]

84. Larry Flynt has said he liked Falwell. Which shows that Flynt is the better Christian.

[tomp]

411. no, it shows flynt is a poor judge of character. nt

[Pachamama]

118. Amen.....

:eyes:

[Gman]

220. It's good that the son of a bitch is dead

may God have mercy on his soul... read my sig line

[martymar64]

370. Thanks for pointing out your sig line

I think I'll crank up some Tull right now!

[HereSince1628]

228. That gets a nomination for the 1-liner of the month!!!!!!!

Serieslee!11!!

[Lochloosa]

233. I'll take you up on that one....

Good Riddance!

[otohara]

234. LOL

thanks to you and MM for that chuckle

[mzmolly]

274. LOL

:rofl:

[colorado_ufo]

277. Gotta love Moms!

Nice to hear her name mentioned.

[kimmylavin]

295. ...

That's excellent.
I'll have to remember that...

[immoderate]

366. Ah! Jerry -- how I remember him...

That bastard...

--IMM

[progressoid]

416. That's a good one. I hope I can remember it but I've have a few too many celebratory drinks!

[Lord Balto]

421. Great!

Funny.

[DainBramaged]

430. I remember "Moms" funny as all get out.

That hat!

[BrklynLiberal]

436. The best comment yet!! Love it!! Perfect.

Uncharitable or not, I am sorry his death was not more painful and drawn out. He did not deserve a relatively peaceful, painless and quick death.
There I've said it..and I am not the least bit sorry.

[Archae]

5. Story here...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/jerry_falwell;_ylt=AmF8okQpuO7eMNwhfLBqj7ys0NUE

:woohoo:

[Old Vet]

6. Now hes a hero on CNN-

All the hate this man spewed.........

[Norquist Nemesis]

22. Maybe they'll re-air some of his Crossfire sit-ins

Tucker will be crying this afternoon.

[Reverend_Smitty]

27. did you hear the bit on CNN...

where he blamed his awful comments about 9/11 on a lack of sleep? Funny, I've been sleep deprived many times in my life but it never caused me to start spewing out racist, sexist, and homophobic comments.

I'm not gonna dance on the man's grave but I'm certainly not going to say anything nice about the man either...so whatever

[Stuckinthebush]

54. I want to see this cartoon....

Falwell arriving in heaven through the tunnel of light with arms open wide exclaiming, "I'm here!"

on the other side of the tunnel is Teletubby land with Tinky Winky there to greet him saying "Eh oh!"

Please please someone with talent draw that for me!

[Carolina]

180. ROFLMAO

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[geardaddy]

204. And the rest of the 'tubbies saying "Again! Again!"

[Stuckinthebush]

221. LOL!

Let's commission it! OK...who can draw?

[customerserviceguy]

238. I remember

when this lardbag made the Tinky Winky comments, the next week, I was in San Francisco, and all the shops in the Castro had Tinky Winky dolls in their window displays!

[brer cat]

244. You rule, Stuckinthebush!

I will have that picture in my head for days.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[PegDAC]

316. Well,

he couldn't say he needed to go to rehab, could he?

[Virginia Dare]

72. What a fucking crime this is...

he will no doubt be hailed as some sort of martyred saint. I'm going to be sick...:puke:

[bdamomma]

162. yep.

[Az_lefty]

8. Wow, there's going to be one heck of a power struggle in the ranks

condolences to his family...

[tridim]

12. Maybe pastor Ted can take over?

:rofl:

[karlrschneider]

9. About fucking time.

Buh-buy, Foulball.

[brooklynite]

11. From AP News: Rev. Jerry Falwell dies

Rev. Jerry Falwell dies

LYNCHBURG, Va. - A Liberty University executive says the Rev. Jerry Falwell has died.

Falwell was hospitalized in "gravely serious" condition after being found unconscious Tuesday in his office at Liberty University, a school executive said earlier.

Ron Godwin, the university's executive vice president, said Falwell, 73, was found unresponsive around 10:45 a.m. and taken to Lynchburg General Hospital. Godwin said he was not sure what caused the collapse, but he said Falwell "has a history of heart challenges."

"I had breakfast with him, and he was fine at breakfast," Godwin said. "He went to his office, I went to mine, and they found him unresponsive."

[rasputin1952]

103. Menu for his last breakfast...

6 egg 3 cheese omelet

1/2# bacon

4 sausage links

loaf of toast

butter

coffee (w/sweet & low, whole cream)

Buttermilk 1 Gal

OJ 3 oz

Prune Juice quart



A history of heart challenges? Like trying to find one, or his weight/lack of exercise, (except jaw and mouth muscles), did him in?

[PlanetBev]

134. Jerry's last dinner

Pig's knuckles and fatback.

As far as I'm concerned, he lived too long.

[shain from kane]

183. Looks like he committed suicide.

[smoogatz]

186. Nah. Clinton killed him.

snrk.

[shain from kane]

190. Gary Bauer cooked his pancakes.

[silverojo]

442. I was wondering when Clinton would get blamed for this, LOL!

Isn't he to blame for EVERYTHING? :rofl:

[scarface2004]

432. i m dying..

just reading what he had for breakfast!! yow!!!

[emilyg]

107. Too funny probably true

[w13rd0]

155. "they found him unresponsive"

Funny, the Democratic leadership in Congress has been saying the same thing about Bush since we won the 2006 elections. Maybe someone should check his pulse.

[PATRICK]

173. The extra step

Now few of you may realize that on occasion I have taken the bit between my teeth when an awesome story comes along to look at those wicked little details. The heart would like to bestow peace and compassion. The brain knows that countless millions are doomed to miserably short lives and slavery if we suspend the fight against what the dead stood for and the lies that honor them against the probable negative judgment of God(or history or Truth). Maybe it could be said he wasn't the worst of the bunch, but because of that he had more sway so the planned negative results were even more pervasive and the spreading corruption more triumphant.

Alone? In his office? Who was the last person or appointment? Any females in the vicinity- or other persuasions. is there a hint of ANY cover up going on. Any presence of cleaners instead of simple CSI or family. Anybody from the inner circle sending people to secure his notes and computers? Any odd details, noggin bumps. Will there be an autopsy looking for: recent sexual behavior, hints of violence?

Those little things that will really clear the air from what MAY eventually come forward. That is, endless suggestions and cold case conspiracy theories once a news scene has gone unexamined and cold.

People blanch and recoil as they did when too soon after 9/11 something like MIHOP or LIHOP became very insistent, or recoil at the very idea that elections were stolen wholesale and all was a fraud, at the idea that "news" wasn't news anymore in America, at conspiracies that blossom under a prefect wall of protection and zero consequences upon initial discovery. It seems cruel and unChristian to be this coldblooded, but we are faced with cruel and completely unChristian fakers. It is not about judgment but real healing and undoing of wrongs that will "redeem" anything about this individual. There is no joy in a blighted life coming to an unredeemed end and no good in frosting over the poison cake one last time so that the pestilence itself can rage on.

Of course, usually a sudden heart attack is just that simple, but we are talking about perpetual connivers, plotters, organized criminals, personally corrupt perverts as a clue of opportunists against the nation that grants them celebrity mourning rites. Since they are connected unfortunately in is not in the public interest to simply say RIP but to rip into the evidence they have been concealing for decades, the lies whose cloud settles over their death like the final miasma and the the hypocrisy circus of funereal rites and eulogies that would make Mephisto gag. In this I separate the person and his family from the interest of undoing the wrong he has done. We cannot do anything about his soul or memory so much as to enlighten and remove those clouds. the first step in forgiveness is knowing and acknowledging what exactly there is to forgive. And I am sure we barely know the half of it and what most people don't know goes on hurting them in a nation being assaulted by lies and hate.

[Bigmack]

290. You are paranoid...

suspicious, bitter, and without faith..... me too!

[LiberalFighter]

177. They call it heart challenges now? Or is that for religous nuts like Falwell?

[jgraz]

14. BREAKING FOLLOWUP: Falwell Arrives in Hell

[Beelzebud]

15. Good riddance. I'm not going to pretend to be respectful.

[TankLV]

26. Only spite and scorn for this asshole...

NOT a single good thing to say...

Too all those who say/want to say a good thing about this EVIL "man" - would you say kind things about Hitler?...

I am soo ever joyful and heartened at this GOOD news!...

[AngryOldDem]

45. Me, neither.

I don't like to write/think/speak ill of the dead, so I guess I'll just leave it at this. No wailing and gnashing of teeth at this end.

[Hawaii Hiker]

52. It is very difficult to feel bad for him

The so-called "religious right" has been among the most mean-spirited & vicious people this planet has ever seen...Those bastards danced in the streets when Matthew Shepard was brutally murdered...A fundy nearly killed Larry Flynt decades ago...And they've done countless acts of violence to abortion clinics, gay nightclubs, etc....

The proper term for them would be the religious wrong..

[spotbird]

90. He died quickly,

as an old, rich, hate-filled man.

He was lucky, he never suffered the consequences for his sins in this world. Let's hope there is another life so justice is served somewhere.

[bdamomma]

166. amen

[Tansy_Gold]

208. I couldn't agree more

He lived a very, very good life, filled with luxuries and plenty. He died a quick and simple death.

There are oh so many who will know neither of those blessings.

[sickinohio]

239. You might add

food-filled, fat-filled man to that list.

[David Zephyr]

312. Exactly. Praise the Lord this fucker is dead.

I won't pretend either.

[Marnieworld]

16. I wonder what the look on his face is

Now that he knows that he had no idea what he was talking about.

:D

[SusanaMontana41]

43. lol!

Thanks for that!

:toast:

[ronnykmarshall]

217. How about when he sees god for the first time .....

[lakercub]

353. That looks kind of like Omar Epps

I like him on house, but he is hardly God. :)

[arcane1]

308. I was never convinced that he believed a word he said...

he simply exploited the fears of old people in order to separate them from their money

period

[RamboLiberal]

17. Bet he got an unpleasant surprise when he met his maker

Otherwise my mother taught me never to speak ill of the dead, but IMHO this world is better off w/o him.

[Hersheygirl]

69. Oh, I bet it was one HELL of a surprise!

And I bet he had horns, instead of a halo.:evilgrin:

[LiberalFighter]

179. His maker being.... Satan?

[daveskilt]

18. one mullah dies - 4 spring up to take his hate spewing place

[Ishoutandscream2]

33. Yes, the madness continues

[maddezmom]

56. that's scary, I just said the same thing to a friend

there will be tons of uber freaks lining up to take his place :scared:

[Eurobabe]

19. So the 10 GOP freaks can fellate over Jerry tonight instead of Ronnie

[RamboLiberal]

119. Your reading my mind

Wonder how many or if all will mention tonight on Faux. Could be an interesting drinking game.

[RamboLiberal]

126. Be interesting to see what Repukes show up at the funeral

Actually might be more interesting to see if any of the national Repukes don't show up. Probably count that group on one hand with 4 fingers missing.

[MsMagnificent]

McCain will go

crying crocodile tears.

[Eurobabe]

138. Oh I guarantee they will cancel the debate out of respect

we'll get to see it next week when they reschedule.

[Demeter]

248. Great Idea!

Cuts down on the exploding heads and TV shootings. And binge drinking, drug overdoses, broken marriages, unplanned pregnancies......

[silverojo]

443. Screw the Repuke debate

I'm watching basketball! :evilgrin:

[SusanaMontana41]

20. Here come the revisionists

lining up for the MSM.

No tears for him here. God gets him now. Good luck with that, Jerry.

[Beelzebud]

25. Yep, just like the Reagan and Ford revisionism. He's now Saint Fallwell to the establishment.

[underpants]

31. "Sue me? **** that SUE HIM!"

[SusanaMontana41]

57. Perfect!

They belong together, on this thread.

[uncle ray]

144. Flynt was a far better man than falwell.

it was hate by people like falwell that put Larry Flynt in that wheelchair.

[SusanaMontana41]

165. Yep

That's why the skewering was so pleasurable ...

[goodboy]

21. Rot in Hell Falwell!

That is all.

[BanzaiBonnie]

23. Why are news organizations

breaking with this as a special report?

Can you say celebrity? And even more importantly, religious celebrity.

[dsharp88]

252. That's how it is when a show business figure dies...

The media covers it as though it is news.

[Bitwit1234]

24. If this is true

For those religious believers. ...God works in mysterious ways his wonders to perform...............

[Charlie Brown]

anything I could say out of respect would be insincere

so I just won't say anything.

My condolences to his family and loved ones.

on edit: my bad, I thought I was responding to the OP.

[qanda]

28. RIP Falwell

[Stuckinthebush]

58. RIP? how about RIA

Rest in Anguish

[silverojo]

444. Or RIH: Rest in hell n/t

[Stuckinthebush]

472. I guess we should be careful

after seeing the tsk tsking from the I-forgot-what-evil-this-man-has-wrought club here on DU!

But as for me, he can rest in hell.

[Red Zelda]

30. Yaaaaaay!

[Kolesar]

32. At least he lived until November 2006 &got to see bush* at 28% approval

*disputed

[Virginia Dare]

87. Not long enough to see his beloved GOP implode in 2008 though..

that is one sad thought.

[LibertyorDeath]

34. TBTG !!

5th Rec!

[deadmessengers]

35. I'm trying REALLY hard to be respectful here...

But DAMN it's hard. OH is it hard to do right now.

I'll just leave it at this: "Rest in peace".

[Eurobabe]

37. Breaking NEWS: CHENEY WANTS FALWELL's HEART

and Bush has asked for his brain.

[spotbird]

74. But that won't improve either of them. nt

[Patsy Stone]

38. May God have mercy on his soul

If anyone's gonna need it, it's him.

[Pachamama]

127. Yes, hell just got more crowded....

All I can say is that he was a hate-mongering and cruel man. I won't go so far as expressing that I feel any joy in his death, but I certainly don't feel any sadness. I think of the hate-mongering and abusing the the name of the lord for his own selfish purposes, and I can only say that if there is an afterlife and "God", then Mr. Falwell is not going to be treated kindly because of his sins.

[Patsy Stone]

225. He's got a lot of 'splainin' to do.

I'm not happy a man is dead either, but the world just got a little bit less hateful -- and that deserves a celebration.

[Dukkha]

39. now on MSNBC

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/

HURRAY!!!!!!

:bounce:

ROT in Hell you piece of shit! NO condolences ever!!!!

[winga222]

40. Can we drive a stake through his heart

just to be sure? Sorry though for his family. Even hate-filled dickheads have little dickheads and grand-dickheads who grieve.

[corkhead]

41. my falwell haiku

farewell jerry falwell
mccain follows you to the gates
your moral majority was neither

[WatchWhatISay]

92. Excellent!

That's genius!

[corkhead]

265. I forgot the picture...

[Gregorian]

44. Hey, at least Falwell repented on TV.

The guy has a shred of something in his soul.


Now Pat Robertson. Paging Pat!...You're wanted at the flaming red hot courtesy phone.

[ryanmuegge]

273. I think that was Jimmy Swaggert you're thinking of...

The guy with the hookers.

Maybe I'm wrong. What did he repent of on TV?

[Gregorian]

302. Shoot! You're right. It wasn't Falwell.

So much for me trying to be the nice guy.

I really should leave the forum for people with more brains and better memory. Haha.

[guitar man]

46. the only thing I can think of

the only thing I can think of right now.....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McHyLKw5mHc

[SusanaMontana41]

131. me too me too!

The version in my head was nowhere near as good as this one. Thanks!

[earthboundmisfit]

47. Hmmm... I wonder what his next incarnation will be?

Karma being what it is....
Here's hoping he will learn more in his next lifetime than he did in this one...

[goodboy]

48. he was a piece of shit in this life...how much worse could it be? (nt)

[earthboundmisfit]

100. He's already picked his next life by his works in this one -

From what I understand, he'll come back as a kind of person for whom he showed the LEAST mercy in this life... Ahhh, karma - can't avoid it! :)

[goodboy]

104. hmm...so many ways to respond...

A gay black man.

An unwed single mother.

A homeless person.

[Carolina]

199. a gay black man born

to a homeless, single, drug-addicted mother.

Now I must go repent.

[goodboy]

315. nonsense...just

<>

Pick one and climb on up...

:sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm:

[Raksha]

130. Karma....reminds me of the time I told an asshole fundie,

"I hope you're reincarnated as a gay black Jew...born in the deep South!"

[Donnachaidh]

79. Dung Beetle

He was full of shit in this life -- seems appropriate for the next.

[liberal renegade]

392. A boil on Rush Gimpdicks ass.

[Xmark]

50. I know I musn't wish ill on him

but, I can't quite bring myself to have any sort of sympathy, either. I'm surely not perfect, and I'd hate to think of anyone rejoicing when I pass away. I'll try not to be bitter about him and gloat, but it's a challange.

[Virginia Dare]

65. Don't live your life as Falwell did..

publicly judging and condemning others for self serving purposes, and cheating the people and the government out of millions, and you probably don't have to worry about it.

[Xmark]

96. I know....I don't do any of those things.

I just couldn't stand to see how smug he always was. I'm smug sometimes also, but maybe seeing how it comes across, I'll be more aware of not being like that.

[spotbird]

97. Another tip

to prevent people from spitting on your grave:

Don't use Nigerian slaves to dig for your gold.

[Vanje]

417. The African slave-labor /Chuck Taylor thing...

i think that was Pat Robertson, who unfortunately still breathes.
He has a couple of real bad-ass dictator pals.
It was African diamonds I think, not gold.
Used ministry funded plane to haul diamonds out of Africa.
Pat Robertson.

[Virginia Dare]

51. Have a nice stay in hell Jerry...

I hope you repent for all of the sins you've committed in the name of your God.

[Speaker]

53. Hopefully, God will meet him at the Pearly Gates...

wearing pink speedos, a pink feather boa, and red high heels.

[recovering democrat]

Amen.

Except that SHE will advise him there is no vacancy for him in heaven. He will be joining the other hypocrites in the lower level of hell.

[HughBeaumont]

114. And pull the trap door and laugh long and loud.

"THE JOKES ON YOU JACK!!"

[Old Vet]

476. and holding hands with Saint Peter

[SheilaT]

55. Two thoughts.

One is regarding the "If you can't say something nice" bit: Too bad the right wing hate mongers apparently never learned that rule.

Second is that now we'll have to listen to otherwise decent people saying nice things about a man who absolutely does not deserve to have nice things said about him. He spread bigotry and hate. The left has been accused of blaming America for 9/11, when in fact the ONLY people who blamed America for that are the right wing hate mongers, of whom Falwell was first and foremost.

[missingpeace]

59. So do super-christians rate flags at half mast?

I imagine there'll be a heap of praying goin' on.

[Virginia Dare]

82. I'm sure it will in Virginia...

what a crock considering all of the tax money he's bilked this state out of..:puke:

[Penndems]

141. Double-"Amen" to that

Wish I could find something nice to say about Jerry Falwell, but I'd be lying.

[LynneSin]

99. Remember that the flags are already on half-mast today...

..for a decent cause - to honor those people like police and fireman who have lost their life in the line of duty. I forget what they call this day now but I think it's a decent cause too

[Nimrod2005]

60. Thank you for the good news, the world is a better place today!!!

[DearAbby]

61. .

Ding dong the pr*ck is dead....which ol' pr*ck?...the wicked pr*ck.


:doing the DearAbby Okie Dokie dance, dashing quickly into doing "my MooMoo CanCan!":

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

62. Now who's going to have sex with his mother in an outhouse?

:shrug:

[question everything]

63. Poor McCain. Now he will have to look for another

right winger's ass to kiss

[IronLionZion]

64. It was God's will

God took Jerry from us for a reason.

[Castleman]

85. If God finally decided to waste him....

then I might start believing in him...naaaahhh, took too fucking long to kill the sonovabitch.....should waxed him decades ago....

[snappyturtle]

158. I speculate that Jerry found out his name is on

the list to be outed by the DC Madam and he had a heart attack. My fear is the rw christians will rally support and pull in more recruits.

[LibDemAlways]

66. Watch the repukes fall all over themselves at their

"debate" tonight to sing Falwell's praises. They pass up no opportunity to pander to the fundies, and this one is golden. A couple of those nutcases might even break down and start sobbing.

[insleeforprez]

67. My mom once told me

If I didn't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all.

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[Donnachaidh]

86. Was he on the commode?

??

[Kolesar]

71. Even better, NPR is first mainstream news to report it

Linky, linky before the body's stinky

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=10187839

LYNCHBURG, Va. May 15, 2007, 1:40 p.m. ET · The Rev. Jerry Falwell, who founded the Moral Majority and built the religious right into a political force, died Tuesday shortly after being found unconscious in his office at Liberty University, a school executive said. He was 73.

This is a breaking news update. Check back soon for further information. AP's earlier story is below.

[liberal N proud]

75. Does this mean he will miss the apocalypse?

[some guy]

76. ~

[d_b]

77. Rest In Piss

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[Cant trust em]

Newt Gingrich to speak at Liberty U.

I find it troubling that Newt Gingrich is allowed to set foot on campus. This just proves that the Christian right doesn't give two shits about morality, that they exist solely to promote Republican ideology. Bill Clinton doesn't get the benefit of the doubt when he asks for forgiveness.

[spotbird]

106. Newt left the Diane Rehm show

in a rush this am when the calls got tough. I'm sure he'll use this as an excuse.

[Rockholm]

80. Wonder if he gets turned away the the Pearly Gates?

A hate-filled man.

[musette_sf]

81. may the lies be lifted from his eyes

and may his spirit now know the wrongs he has perpetrated.

namaste

[lady lib]

83. Self delete

RIP, Jerry.

[shayes51]

88. John McCain just can't seem to catch a break.

[LynneSin]

89. It's easier for a camel to go thru the eye of a needle than a rich man to get into heaven

I think that's the most appropriate bible scripture I can think of right now!

[lastliberalintexas]

207. Better one than that

Judge not, lest you be judged yourself. And the measure YOU USE, shall also be put TO YOU.

Fundies completely ignore this caution from the Gospels, particularly the second part. If there is such a thing as the afterlife, I expect that he is even now being taught the meaning of that scripture.


Otherwise, since I can't say anything nice about him, I'll just hope that his family can become more open, compassionate and loving following their loss.

[Az_lefty]

91. "Aids is Gods judgement on the gay community"

one of Falwell's great proclamations during the Reagan years. Hard to believe that anyone took him seriously.

[Duncan Grant]

329. GAYS responsible for terrorism at the World Trade Center.

That Falwell sure was a hell-of-a guy. :sarcasm:

Fuck him and good riddance.

[silverojo]

446. Which raises the question....

If AIDS was God's judgement on the gay community, and anti-abortionists (et al) were responsible for 9/11, then who was responsible for Jerry Falwell being struck down?

Intolerant, homophobic fundie braying asses, perhaps?

[Dukkha]

93. WELCOME HOME!

[rocktivity]

94. Wherever he is, I truly hope he's happy

because I sure am.

I'd use the devil smiley, but even I'M not that evil.

rocknation

[Hersheygirl]

95. Thinking about what might happen

in 2008 was just too much for him to take.

[shain from kane]

98. Farewell, Falwell.

See you in the next life(?).
Down the slide.

[Pyrzqxgl]

384. Maybe you'll accidentally step on that cockroach.

[RestoreGore]

101. I fear for his soul

And that is all I will say regarding him. However, any family grieves, so my condolences to them as one who knows what it is like to lose someone you love.

[lebkuchen]

102. Such events tend to occur in threes.

I do have a wishlist...have had one for a long time now.

[spotbird]

113. President Pelosi

wouldn't survive here first weekend in office, they'd storm the WH and kill her.

[lebkuchen]

121. Consider all the bodyguards Obama has.

We're all gonna die. My hope is that some go of natural causes sooner than others.

That a woman or person of color can't run for president without fearing for her/his life is a pathetic commentary on 21st century US of A.

[RaleighNCDUer]

200. The next two mullahs

Robertson and LaHaye.

Though truth be told, they both look like they expired years ago.

[lebkuchen]

211. Robertson will probably have his coffin lined with the diamonds he stole

from Zaire.

[Penndems]

347. Add two more to the list: Falwell's two sons, who are taking up his mantle:

Falwell had made careful preparations for a transition of his leadership to his two sons, Jerry Falwell, Jr., now vice chancellor of Liberty University, and Jonathan Falwell, executive the pastor of Thomas Road Baptist Church.

Link:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/05/15/AR2007051500981.html?hpid=topnews

[amb123]

326. Good! May Pat Robertson and James Dobson be next.

:nopity:

[Discord]

105. the world just became a slightly better place. n/t

[Pacifist Patriot]

108. If you can't say something nice, don't say nothin' at all.

*chirp*

[insleeforprez]

124. I'll amen to that

[diamidue]

109. Will his followers blame

liberals, feminists, gays and the ACLU for this, too?

[TankLV]

132. If ONLY we had that power...

But we are NOT repukes, and don't act like them...

While I rejoice at his passing, just like the world rejoiced at Hitler's passing, I am but a passive observer from afar - but his EVIL has touched me personally, along with MILLIONS of men and women...

[tsuki]

110. No TV news for me for the next week. n/t

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[Bluzmann57]

112. Good bye Falwell

Wonder if this was Clinton's fault? After all, Falwell was selling a tape which allegedly was "proof" that the Clinton's were guilty of murder. I hope that in the sure to be endless news coverage this will bring, someone will point that out.

[PlanetBev]

115. Breaking news...Jerry Fallwell arrives in Heaven

St. Peter is a hairdresser and the angels are interior designers...

[insleeforprez]

151. And the entrance quiz

is on evolution.

[ramapo]

116. Rapture came early for the hate-monger

n/t

[brooklynite]

117. A political question for tonight...

Tonight is the Fox News/SC GOP Presidential Candidates' Debate in South Carolina. Will the contestants feel the need to wax eloquently about the great leadership of Jerry Falwell to play to the southern social conservatives, and if so, how will the rest of the electorate react?

[Jankyn]

120. I hope...

...that he learns all the compassion he lacked in this life in the next one.

I hope I learn all the compassion I need in this life to make sure I don't have to share the next one with him.

[earth mom]

122. One down and several more to go.

Sure, I know it's not a nice thing to say, but this world needs peace and harmony WAY more than it needs such cruel and evil intentions we've witnessed from Falwell and others like him.

[april]

327. don't worry it runs in 3's someone is next

[Scooter24]

123. Thank the lord.... I remember him fondly for this convo from 9-13-2001

JERRY FALWELL: And I agree totally with you that the Lord has protected us so wonderfully these 225 years. And since 1812, this is the first time that we've been attacked on our soil and by far the worst results. And I fear, as Donald Rumsfeld, the Secretary of Defense, said yesterday, that this is only the beginning. And with biological warfare available to these monsters -- the Husseins, the Bin Ladens, the Arafats -- what we saw on Tuesday, as terrible as it is, could be miniscule if, in fact -- if, in fact -- God continues to lift the curtain and allow the enemies of America to give us probably what we deserve.

PAT ROBERTSON: Jerry, that's my feeling. I think we've just seen the antechamber to terror. We haven't even begun to see what they can do to the major population.
JERRY FALWELL: The ACLU's got to take a lot of blame for this.

PAT ROBERTSON: Well yes.

JERRY FALWELL: And, I know that I'll hear from them for this. But, throwing God out successfully with the help of the federal court system, throwing God out of the public square, out of the schools. The abortionists have got to bear some burden for this because God will not be mocked. And when we destroy 40 million little innocent babies, we make God mad. I really believe that the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People For the American Way -- all of them who have tried to secularize America -- I point the finger in their face and say "you helped this happen."

PAT ROBERTSON: Well, I totally concur,

----------------

The above conversation took place September 13, 2001.

I find it hard to have any care, concern, or sympathy for a man who so vehemently hated me. And to blame me and other homosexuals as the cause of 9-11, well, that makes him no better than Phelps and the rest of those idiots at Westboro.

This man was no kind soul and I'm sure that millions of Americans will be better off with him buried in the ground.

[stevietheman]

125. A troublesome, divisive figure who did almost nothing positive is dead. n/t

n/t

[valerief]

128. Yeah, he died like Ken Lay died. nt

[murielm99]

129. I am so glad he went before Tammy Faye.

He was so rotten to her and her husband. (See The Eyes of Tammy Faye, if you have not).

She has forgiven him, but I still hope this news gets to her. She does not have long.

As for me, I think Satan just opened up a whole new barbecue pit.

[Penndems]

133. It's extremely difficult to find a kind word to say about Jerry Falwell

The man was one of the least Christian people on earth. Falwell used his pulpit to preach against those who disagreed with him, both personally and professionally. To Reverend Falwell, God was a weapon to be wielded in the name of politics. He certainly didn't mete out compassion, understanding, love and forgiveness towards those who chose what he considered to be the wrong path.

Falwell was certainly ruthless. When his fellow televangelist Jim Bakker was indicted on fraud, tax evasion and racketeering charges back in 1987, the good reverend and Pat Robertson stepped in and looted the Heritage USA assets. What a guy. :sarcasm:

He'll certainly answer for those he wronged to a higher authority now.

[RaleighNCDUer]

214. I wonder if we'll see his empire shatter in a similar way when the

books are opened. He's been fleecing his flock for decades

I would be quite amused to witness the closing of Liberty University.

[Penndems]

236. They'll be some interesting revealations about Reverend Falwell, no doubt,

but he probably stipulated in his will that his heir-apparent pick up the mantle and oversee the assets of Liberty University and the church.

I wouldn't put it past Jerry Falwell to have all of his fiduciary ducks in a row before he passed away. With him it was Business First, God Second.

[tsuki]

267. One of my favorite stories about Falwell.

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Moonies/jerry_falwell_and_myung_moon.htm

On Jan. 28, 1995, a beaming Rev. Jerry Falwell told his Old Time Gospel Hour congregation news that seemed heaven sent. The televangelist hailed two Virginia businessmen as financial saviors of debt-ridden Liberty University, the fundamentalist Christian school that Falwell had made the crown jewel of his Religious Right empire.

"They had to borrow money, hock their houses, hock everything," enthused Falwell. "Thank God for friends like Dan Reber and Jimmy Thomas." Falwell's congregation rose as one to applaud. The star of the moment was Daniel Reber, who was standing behind Falwell. Thomas was not present.

Reber and Thomas earned Falwell's public gratitude by excusing the Lynchburg, Va., school of about one-half of its $73 million debt. In the late 1980s, that flood of red ink had forced Falwell to abandon his Moral Majority political organization and nearly drowned Liberty University in bankruptcy.

Reber and Thomas came to Falwell's rescue in the nick of time. Their non-profit Christian Heritage Foundation of Forest, Va., snapped up a big chunk of Liberty's debt for $2.5 million, a fraction of its face value. Thousands of small religious investors who had bought church construction bonds through a Texas company were the big losers. But Falwell shed no tears. He told local reporters that the moment was "the greatest single day of financial advantage" in the school's history.

Left unmentioned in the happy sermon was the identity of the bigger guardian angel who had been protecting Falwell's financial interests -- from a distance and without publicity. That secret benefactor was the Rev. Sun Myung Moon, the self-proclaimed South Korean messiah who is controversial with many fundamentalist Christians because of his bizarre Biblical interpretations and his brainwashing tactics that have torn thousands of young people from their families. Moon also has grown harshly anti-American in recent years.
/snip

And Falwell made no attempt at restoration to the people he swindled.

[Penndems]

280. I remember when this occurred

Jerry Falwell wasn't in the business of glorifying God - he was in the business of doing what was best for Jerry Falwell.

And no - he never made any attempt to repay those investors. :mad:

[AngryAmish]

135. I'm glad the fat shithead is dead

may his family join him soon.

[knight_of_the_star]

I have one thing to say

Now he gets to meet his God face to face and find out if He is amused by Falwell claiming to be His mouthpiece on earth.

[benny05]

136. Check Out Freeperville

Warning--put on beekeeper mask first before entering..

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1833947/posts

[RoccoR5955]

261. You need a barf bag...

Not a beekeeper mask. They make me want to puke. All they see is that this hypocrite preached "Christian beliefs." Yeah, it didn't matter that he didn't practice what he preached. Oy vey, it makes me want to talk to Ralph and Earl about a Buick on the big white comodophone! How can these people be so brainwashed.

Good riddance to bad rubbish.
Tell them not to use too much embalming fluid. He should become worm food that much quicker!

[benny05]

363. LOL--about the bag

I wasn't terribly fond of Falwell either.

[silverojo]

447. Oh, this post is rich!

From Freeperville:
" should also say that this is one of the reasons I am "addicted" to FR - you get breaking news here before anywhere else. If you had to wait for the news to be reported on the yahoo or google or aol home page, you'd need a couple of shaves before it appeared. Also, freepers post news stories - legitimate news stories - that don't appear many other places. This site is a national treasure."

I pray to God this cretin copied and pasted that from The Onion's website....

[shain from kane]

137. I will follow your casket

In the pale afternoon
And I'll watch while you're lowered
Down to your deathbed
And I'll stand o'er your grave
'Til I'm sure that you're dead

[tomp]

415. and tramp the dirt down. --elvis costello. nt

[frylock]

140. rot in the grave you piece of filth..

A-FUCKING-MEN!!!

[csorman]

142. Left behind...

One of two things has happened. He either 1) missed the rapture (d'oh!) or 2) the rapture came and only took him. Hmmm!

The thing that sucks the most about this is that the fundies are going to get SOOOO much free airtime to spew their hate-filled diatribes towards "non-believers", and CNN/MSNBC/FAUX news channels will fall hook, line and sinker to set up "debates" where they will line up some folks that make us look like we're spitting on his grave, and that THEY are the rational ones. Then, Bush will get to deliver some creepy fundie-speech to his base, and his approval rating will go up for a day, which they will definitely exploit.

I'm not sad that he's gone from this earth, but I'm not looking forward to the "hero" antics that are going to follow in this upcoming week's news. Makes me sick.

[libnnc]

143. The bar is open

Drinks are on me

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[libnnc]

164. No, he was a pathetic fuck

Who preached hatred and bile for over 40 years.

And who stole millions of dollars from little old ladies to build his 'empire' in Jeebus. He's answering some pretty tough questions right about now.

[csorman]

187. Welcome to DU, American2...er...

Um....or person who just signed up to make that comment! Guess we won't be seein' much of you over here...

[AnnieBW]

419. I'll have a yarder of beer

So my piss will be nice and smelly when I squat over Falwell's grave and piss on it! :beer: :beer: :beer:

[bkcc]

147. I'm sorry for his family.

But as for Jerry, I quote the great Elvis Costello:

"...when they finally put you in the ground
I'll stand on your grave and tramp the dirt down."

[anotherdrew]

148. DING DONG THE WITCH KING IS DEAD! N/T

[galileo3000]

149. Peace

Although I disagreed much with his view of the world, I can say that I worked harder to be more compassionate and loving as a point of opposition to him personally, and I am happier for it. Thanks for making me a better person and for providing me an antogonistic source of strength, especially when I needed my reserves. Peace - galileo

[smoogatz]

150. Breaking: New Circle of Hell Completed

According to high-ranking sources in Hell (who requested anonymity due to the sensitive nature of the subject matter), a new 8th-and-a-half circle of damnation has just been completed, specifically to house the late Reverend Falwell and "other sanctimonious douchebags who get rich off of scaring the hicks." Among the planned festivities are hourly hot-tar enemas, frequent beatings with spiked chains, impalement with a variety of sharp implements, boiling lava baths, and mandatory extended viewing sessions of Falwell's "Old Time Gospel Hour" television program. "It seemed like the perfect form of torment," according to one demonic source, rubbing his scaly claws together. "I can't imagine anything worse, except maybe the TV show AND the hot tar enemas at the same time."

[silverojo]

449. That was funny as hell!

Just wanted to make sure your clever post wasn't lost among this wake for Jelly Fatwell. Definitely appreciated the laugh you provided! :rofl:

[AnnieBW]

480. I smell a DUzy for this post!

Oh, nominating committee... :D

[bleedingheart]

152. I am really upset by his sudden death...

why couldn't it have been a lingering and painful one...one that would have had him begging for assisted suicide....so that he could better know why people want to have choices about both birth and death...

I have always disliked this man (to hate him makes him worth more)...I am sure the world will vomit up another one like him soon to take his place...

[Nye Bevan]

198. Have you experienced someone close to you dying a lingering and painful death?

I have, and I would not wish that on anyone.

[bleedingheart]

201. I have...and you know what...that person begged to die

and yet our society and people like Falwell are against that...

The man was a horrid person, he preached hate..I have no sympathy for him at all. I am far too tired of turning the other cheek in regard to folks like this.

[Vinca]

153. Please, please, please . . . if there is a God . . .

don't let them cover this on the news 24/7 for the next week. And don't let them turn this miserable hate mongerer into a saint.

[TankLV]

259. Too late - or haven't you seen CNN or any of the other media whores yet?

It's DISGUSTING.

Simply Disgusting...

[MsMagnificent]

154. self delete

duplicate

[valerief]

156. Could it have been the tainted wheat gluten, perhaps? nt

[bleedingheart]

160. they will have to check his trough to see if that was the case...

perhaps they can scrape some of out of there...but then again ole Jerry liked to lick that trough clean...

[Massachusetts]

157. One Less HYPOCRITE!

[KamaAina]

161. De mortuis nil nisi bonum

ergo, EOM

[Maeve]

351. Good thought

[JitterbugPerfume]

163. I hate it when DUers take pleasure in death

No matter how obnoxious he was in life , it does not speak well of us to take such pleasure in his death

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[Cant trust em]

170. I'm with you

I'm not going to play the revisionist game and forget how I loathed him while he was alive, but I'm not going to celebrate this either.

[IronLionZion]

172. God chose to end Jerry's life.

Who are we to disagree?

[Nye Bevan]

188. I agree

Too many DUers go way over the top with glee when someone from the other side dies. Falwell was an obnoxious blowhard and I won't miss him but he was not Adolf Hitler and I am prepared to say Rest in Peace.

[MilesColtrane]

192. Agreed....

Some don't seem to get that we're all going to the boneyard one day.

[Javaman]

215. I'm putting on my dancing shoes and am going to look for his grave!

:rofl:

[MissMillie]

246. yep

that's how I feel too

[TankLV]

260. Fuck Fartwell and all his EVIL.

The world is a better place now...

The world was WORSE off for him having been BORN...

Be glad and REJOICE - one more evil has been lifted from us!

[democrat2thecore]

279. I agree. Dead for 4 hours and look at all the immaturity. Says a lot.

I couldn't STAND Jerry Falwell, but I have been shocked at this thread here at DU. If the comments above are not the very definition of hate, I don't know what is. It's hard to reconcile all the "lofty values" posts some of the above make and read when someone they disagree with dies. Disappointing. No matter where you stand on the political spectrum, we should not CELEBRATE death. If you feel the need to, why not do it in private? To publicly do this HOURS after a man's death is rather over-the-top.

[Ferret Annica]

306. So this means if we protest at Fred Phelp's funeral and partied...

...we would be tasteless and without class and savior-faire?

TO Hell with being nice. Falwell was an abusive criminal, a baiter and a hater. My only complaint is that he did not die sooner, and didn't go with enough pain and suffering in the process.

[fudge stripe cookays]

319. Um...

it's a political discussion board. The man got involved in politics. He was not private about his scorn for gays and liberals. It's called karma.

He didn't just DISAGREE with the people on this board, he called for our deaths, and he cursed gays with every breath he had. He earned all the hate that's being heaped upon him. Perhaps if this is too harsh, you might want to heed your own advice and stay away from the topic. Or in fact, from DU for awhile.

[Guaranteed]

288. Totally agreed. Doesn't matter who it is.

We are all human, none of us perfect.

Rejoicing in death, at all, is flat-out wrong.

[hiaasenrocks]

289. Agreed.

[fudge stripe cookays]

313. Well, I hate sanctimony.

The piece of shit bastard cheered when Matthew Shepard was murdered. He gets no free pass from me.

Why don't you go start your own thread about his death instead of attempting to make the rest of us feel guilty for a natural human emotion...relief.

[Maven]

336. It's not about "taking pleasure" in death

It's about being consistent.

Fuck him.

Fuck him when he was alive, and fuck him just as much now that he's fucking dead.

[OnyxCollie]

167. Welcome to Hell, Falwell.

[GliderGuider]

169. My mama taught me to only say good about the dead. Jerry Falwell's dead...

Good.

[Left Hook]

174. I want his skull

And mount it as a trophy of our triumph.

[huskerlaw]

175. Hmmm, well...

May he be enlightened. May he now see how completely wrong he was. May he understand the pain he has brought to others.

I would ask for the same for his followers, but I realize that'd be asking a bit too much.

That said, my condolences to his family.

[Nickster]

181. Perfectly put. I agree completely. n/t

[RoccoR5955]

438. How can he be enlightened

If he's now worm food?
I didn't know that worm food could think, or had a consciousness.

And his followers will still be his followers.

What if, right before the lights went out, he realized that there is NOTHING when we die, just as before we were born? What would be his last word? Whoops?!

Comfort his family, as he abused them as well, but this world is a better place now.

Like I said before, good riddance to bad rubbish!

[huskerlaw]

457. I suppose that depends on what you believe

regarding the afterlife.

[MAGICBULLET]

176. Falwell on 9/11

"All of them who have tried to secularize America, I point the finger in their face and say, 'You helped this happen.'" _ in an appearance on religious broadcaster Pat Robertson's "The 700 Club" in which he blamed the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, on pagans, abortionists, feminists, homosexuals, the American Civil Liberties Union and People for the American Way.

amazing that anyone could defend this.

[maddezmom]

189. not defending here

and he couldn't even defend it, IIRC said he was tired and emotional and took back the comments. Too Late for those of us that have followed the bigots remarks over the years.

[southernleftylady]

182. wonder if that crazy family that protest familys will be at his funeral?

what do you think?

[shain from kane]

195. I'll be there. See my post #137.

I will follow your casket
In the pale afternoon
And I'll watch while you're lowered
Down to your deathbed
And I'll stand o'er your grave
'Til I'm sure that you're dead

[TrogL]

196. You mean the Phelps family?

[southernleftylady]

241. yes thats who i meant

[Puglover]

185. PEOPLE!

I'm shocked.

One must never say anything but good about the dead.

Jerry Falwell is dead.

Good.

(Bette Davis coined that with Johnny Carson about Joan Crawford.)

[Kolesar]

193. thank you setting us straight

:rofl:

[TankLV]

263. I totally agree - and stand corrected!

"good" indeed...!

[deepthought42]

194. I'm still trying to wrap my mind around it...

All those years I had to put up with him and his "university" while I was in college @ a different school in Lynchburg...it was disgusting. I couldn't wait to get out of there and away from those people. It was them that were protesting outside a gay awareness rally on Rivermont Ave., letting children join in on the hate-filled fun too.

The thought that the LU students/faculty may be mourning him as a good man disgusts me, I'm sorry. I wish he'd lived long enough to realize all the mistakes he's made, all the pain and anger he has caused...

[MetaTrope]

197. Not to encourage those of a conspiracy mindset...

http://www.liberty.edu/academics/communications/champion/index.cfm?PID=10609&CAID=260">But Falwell's daily schedule was made public a week ago...

[NotGivingUp]

202. farewell falwell nt

[lebkuchen]

203. The problem w/voting Falwell threads up to "Greatest"

is that readers have to be reminded of him for the next 24 hours. After five minutes, and I've had enough. Time to move on to a new subject.

[AlecBGreen]

205. I cant believe what Im seeing

A man is dead, his body is still warm and DU'ers are already dancing on his undug grave. WTF!?

Look, I know how some of you feel. The man was a racist bigot, intolerant and hateful. He is not, in my opinion, a model Christian. That doesn't give you justification to celebrate his death. I have just as much a right as anyone to be angry with the man (I am) and I have just as much right to celebrate his death, but I wont. Im a southern, white Christian man, the person whom Falwell purporetedly represented. He dragged my reputation through the mud with all his rantings. I am the brother of a gay man. His hate-filled ravings have led to the death of many and endless grief for others. Im a Christian. He profaned my Lord with his unChristian behavior. He took the good news of Christ, of salvation through love, and turned it upside down and used it as a method to segregate and bully whole groups of people. That may not mean much to an athesist or an agnostic, but to me thats about as offensive as anything Ive ever encountered. YET AFTER ALL THIS I DONT CELEBRATE HIS DEATH. Im not asking for you to be like me...Im asking you to show a little class. Like it or not, he was loved by millions of people and they are grieving. Dont rub salt in their wounds. Show compassion, show respect, be good Democrats. Win these people over. </rant>

-Alec

[SacredCow]

266. Thanks for saying what I was going to say....

I simply don't celebrate the death of any human, no matter how much I disagreed with their mantra.

I grant you that we're talking of a man that outed a cartoon character, but like it or not- he was loved by someone who is now grieving.

[TankLV]

268. NO! I CELEBRATE his death! I AM JOYFUL THAT THIS FILTH IS GONE!

You say you have a gay brother -

But yet YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND AT ALL.

Would you not celebrate HITLER's passing?

This creature was nearly as bad...

If Hitler is over the top for you, you don't get my message at all - how about Jeffery Dalhmer? Is that more to you liking?

I could name others, but I'm afraid the point is lost on you...

[rhiannon55]

293. There is nothing wrong with being glad a bigoted war-monger is dead...

Everyone dies, so death is no big deal, really. So what's wrong with acknowledging some relief that the man is now unable to do any more damage in the world? Those of us who feel like celebrating aren't heartless ghouls; we're simply glad that a dangerous person is no longer dangerous.

Sheesh!

[nitestar41]

296. I'm gonna second that...

I keep thinking he grew up in an era of hate... True many people came out of that time and have changed over the years to become decent people but hate just begets hate and sometimes old habits die hard.

He was not what I grew up believing a "good" Christian was supposed to be like, he said some things in extremely bad taste and he should get what he deserves but to me it seems the grave dancing is being done in extremely bad taste.

It's time to say I may not cry for the loss of such a man but I am not going to dance on his grave. I admit I'm not the most *newsy* person so I don't know how his family is but I do know that his family doesn't deserve to be roasted. They may truly mourn his loss and for that they have my deepest and most sincere sympathy.

[fudge stripe cookays]

325. You're under the mistaken impression...

that ANYTHING we do will EVER be listened to by Falwell fans. You are talking about the 29% of remaining fundie Bush voters who are steadfast, and their opinions will never change. They hate gays, abortion, black people, Mexicans, and anyone who doesn't think JUST LIKE THEM.

I refuse to temper what I say anymore with the thought that some cretinous, Bible-thumping mouth breather will alter their feelings because they saw a Democrat act self-righteous. Cuz it ain't gonna happen, dude.

Sorry.
fsc

[Maven]

340. Oh gimme a goddamn break.

Did he tell YOU that AIDS was a punishment you deserved?

FUCK HIM. I mourn for your "reputation," but I don't mourn for him. At all. And I'm not the least bit ashamed to say the world is a BETTER PLACE without him in it.

[Torn_Scorned_Ignored]

408. How Dare You

judge this entire community under the cloak of being a Christian.

He profaned my Lord with his unChristian behavior. He took the good news of Christ, of salvation through love, and turned it upside down and used it as a method to segregate and bully whole groups of people.

Your judgement is the very essence of Falwell.

[AlecBGreen]

458. I am judging noone

I made two points

1) I think its wrong to gleefully celebrate someone's death, no matter how evil we feel them to be.

2) In regards to Falwell's "preaching" , I feel saddened, angered, enraged and other things which I dont have the words to express. I can empathize with a gay person who has been called every filthy name in the book by Falwell and his goons. I realize that he has caused, directly or indirectly, death and suffering by his bigoted, homophobic message. I FEEL EVEN WORSE THAN YOU CAN IMAGINE because he did this in the name of what I hold to be most sacred. He took the best thing in my life and used it as a justification for segregation, humiliation, mistreatment and murder. Do you know what that feels like? Imagine a peaceful muslim living quietly in some corner of the world ... what do you think his reaction was to 9/11? I feel along those lines.

When you say my "judgement is the very essence of Falwell" I disagree. I am not trying to single anyone out. I am not calling names and I am not labelling anyone. I am simply asking people to have compassion for those who are suffering ... there ARE people out there who loved him and will miss him. I am asking all DU'ers, believers and atheists and everyone in between, to represent the TRUE tenents of Christianity and every other faith by loving our enemies and blessing those who curse us.

Hope this clears things up. :hi:
-Alec

[silverojo]

450. Sadly, Alec, you can't win those people over

They're insane, filled with hatred, and delusional. Hatred begets hatred, and that's what we're seeing here--the hatred Falwell spewed is coming back to him and the others who spewed hatred alongside him.

Wait till you read Freak Republic the day Clinton dies. Those posts will make these look like well-wishes.

Falwell is receiving just as much compassion as he demonstrated during his life. He who lives by hate dies hated.

[heliarc]

206. Hallelujah!!!!!

There is a god!

[TechBear_Seattle]

212. See? Prayer *does* work!

Then again, I've been praying that God "calls him home" for more than 20 years.

[Javaman]

209. I couldn't help it but the first words out of my mouth were...

thank you god. LOL :rofl:

[Nay]

431. First out of my mouth, too, and I'm an atheist.

[Javaman]

440. Same here LOL

:rofl:

[Jed Dilligan]

210. I'll play this one in his honor:

You call yourself the Moral Majority
We call ourselves the people in the real world
Trying to rub us out, but we're going to survive
God must be dead if you're alive

You say, 'God loves you. Come and buy the Good News'
Then you buy the president and swimming pools
If Jesus don't save 'til we're lining your pockets
God must be dead if you're alive

Circus-tent con-men and Southern belle bunnies
Milk your emotions then they steal your money
It's the new dark ages with the fascists toting bibles
Cheap nostalgia for the Salem Witch Trials

Stodgy ayatollahs in their dobble-knit ties
Burn lots of books so they can feed you their lies
Masturbating with a flag and a bible
God must be dead if you're alive

Blow it out your ass, Jerry Falwell
Blow it out your ass, Jesse Helms
Blow it out your ass, Ronald Reagan
What's wrong with a mind of my own?

You don't want abortions, you want battered children
You want to ban the pill as if that solves the problem
Now you wanna force us to pray in school
God must be dead if you're such a fool

You're planning for a war with or without Iran
Building a police state with the Ku Klux Klan
Pissed at your neighbour? Don't bother to nag
Pick up the phone and turn in a fag

Blow it out your ass, Terry Dolan
Blow it out your ass, Phyllis Schlafly
Ram it up your cunt, Anita
Cos God must be dead
If you're alive
God must be dead
If you're alive

-Dead Kennedys, 1986

[Javaman]

219. Thanks! Loved that song!

:headbang:

[Stephanie]

213. Thank you Earl G.

:hi:

[Name removed]

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[Straight Shooter]

264. Welcome to DU!

You picked a good day. :hi:

[FloridaJudy]

218. Ta-Ta, Jerry

I don't believe in a wrathful deity.

But I do believe in Karma. I expect you'll learn a lot more in your next incarnation. You sure screwed this one up but good.

[tishaLA]

224. The Same Jerry Falwell Who Accused Bill Clinton

Of drug smuggling and involvement in the death of Vince Foster? Gee. What a pity he's gone....

[northofdenali]

226. And we should care?

As much grief as this bigoted, hating, egocentric jerk gave anyone who wasn't in his exact mold - I'd love to be a fly on St. Peter's Gate.

[Arugula Latte]

227. He must have made the Deity mad and the Deity killed him...

Isn't that how it works, fundies?

[TankLV]

229. Admin: Thanks for the editing.

I got my true feelings out, so much the better...

You are far better than I...

[jean]

235. Yes - thanks for the edit, EarlG

[cgrindley]

230. It's a shame

that he didn't get to find out about the non-existence of his god. I guess religious people always get the last laugh that way. They never get conclusive evidence that they were wrong.

[Totally Committed]

232. "With what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged...

...Not by men, but by God. He takes note of the unkind, harsh, censorious spirit, and deals with the man according to his own spirit. There is declared here a great principle that runs through the moral government of God: Whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap." -- Matthew 7:2

If there is a God (not so sure these days, myself... but if there is), I hope She/He/It will take Jerry by the hand and gently show him the error of his thinking and way of living upon this earth.

TC

[baldguy]

237. Good riddance to an evil beast.

No offense intended against beasts.

[classysassy]

242. Will Me Bush

attend his funeral, pay respect to Falwell,but not the military men and women that he put into harms way?

[classysassy]

245. Mr Bush,not me bush.

[deutsey]

247. I'm certainly not crushed by this, but I find no happiness either n/t

[Enthusiast]

249. Only God's............

Simple. This is God's punishment for the behaviour of TV evangelists.

[dghll]

250. good riddance cristian hippocrate /nt

[Ayesha]

251. Anyone in San Diego...

up for a party?

This is the best news I've heard all day. My assistant's mother is in the hospital, my 3 year old dog may have cancer, and I'm having nerve pain in my arm so bad I can barely type. But thinking about Falwell being Satan's boyfriend in hell just makes the world a little bit brighter.

[Name removed]

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[Frank Cannon]

257. Whatever. Enjoy your stay here. And buh-bye.

:hi:

[RaleighNCDUer]

339. The difference is, those who express their hatred for Falwell here

are people who have been damaged by Falwell's own hatred and bigotry, and the immense power he wielded in advocating those attitudes to his deluded flock.

Falwell, OTOH, was only helped by the people he hated. They made him insanely rich.

Tho an atheist myself, in accordance with 'hate the sin not the sinner' I hate what he did to this country, and while I don't rejoice in his death I am glad he can no longer continue to inflict damage upon us.

[Name removed]

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[heliarc]

254. Quick get a wooden stake nt

[Zambero]

255. A legacy of hate and intolerance

.

[democrat2thecore]

284. Being remembered by a thread of hate and intolerance

Let's at least be honest.

[druidity33]

343. if you think

anyone here needs to tolerate the beliefs of Falwell... you'd be really wrong.

And honestly, what everyone here seems to be griping about is not the "hate" but that the offending comments seem so base and thuggish. That's just human though. Can't expect everyone to be "enlightened" fully on Peace, Love and Understanding.

Do you believe it is ever acceptable for someone to be glad someone else is dead?

This thread is just an etiquette dispute.


On edit: stupid spelling...

[Zenlitened]

256. The work of those who believe in liberty and justice for all has just become a little easier.

I'll say it, and I will not apologize: I'm glad he's dead. Relieved, really.

That man was such a force for seething, ugly evil, that the world is a measurably better place without him in it. The anguish he led the way in inflicting on so many lives, the role he played in the poisoning of our nation... it's just apalling.

"Celebrate" his death? Okay, call it "celebration," if you must, if that's the word you'd use to describe the end of a venomous nightmare.

[_Wayne_]

258. I pity the worms that feed on his intolerant dark rotting carcass

[Ekirh]

262. No dancing on the man's grave. . .

No sympathies either. . .

I'm just going to say this caught me off guard when I came home.

Death never makes me happy.. and neither does his . . . however I don't think it would be right to look at him with rose color glasses now that he is dead. So I'm just going to say he stood for everything a Christian SHOULDN'T be, and it's a shame he couldn't of figured that out before he died. He did a lot of damage, but I'm not going to jump for joy . . . I just can't do it.

[go west young man]

269. What the hells a "Heart Challenge"?

Sounds like a late night TV dating show. So when religious zealots have aneurysms is that considered a "brain challenge"? Or erectile dysfunction. A "penis challenge"? En Gaurd!

[FVZA_Colonel]

270. This is... really kind of a shock.

It's not that I miss that motherfucker one bit, but I really expected him to hang around longer.

[RaleighNCDUer]

475. so true.

I expected he to become a walking mummy like Robertson.

He may have been a Sith lord, but apparently was not THE Sith lord.

[superconnected]

271. decades too late imo.

If I'm ever in a cemetary with his grave there, I will tap dance on it. I've got a great stomping routine waiting for Cheney.

[mzmolly]

272. My Mom always said "if you don't have anything nice to say, dont' say anything at all."

:dilemma:

[Yukari Yakumo]

276. I hope he brought his boxing gloves...

He's gonna need 'em when he arrives at the 5th circle of Hell.

[19jet54]

278. Samuel Clemens wisdom

The secular world is glad to be rid of someone who wished to enact a modern day "Spanish Inquisition" on the USA.

In the words of Mark Twain "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice note saying I approved of it."

[greyghost]

451. How VERY....

appropriate!:evilgrin:

[GeorgeGist]

281. Rest in Peace ...

his soul is free.

[Hardrada]

282. But I did want to see what he thought of Chris Hitchen's new book!

One thing we'll miss out on.

[AX10]

283. And someday, Osama Bin Laden will be gone too.

:nopity:

I'm sure the cable "news" will be in full right wing worship mode this evening!

[loyalkydem]

286. So...

who will the republicans turn to now for moral support?

[arcane1]

324. and DUers will be reproached for being glad he is dead, too

unfortunately :(

[WritingIsMyReligion]

287. Absolutely descipable man, but I don't wish the pain of loss on his family.

If there is a God, Jerry will know soon enough whether his hate- and war-mongering was in God's will.

[Taverner]

291. Too much Campari

[Wednesdays]

292. Here's a pic of Falwell when he went down the PTL "Jesus" water slide

I'm tempted to add a different caption. :evilgrin:

[rateyes]

298. I would caption that pic:

"Going Down!"

[va4wilderness]

294. I was born in his hometown...

And got out after only 2 years (fortunately).

[enough already]

297. Ding dong the witch is dead

Good riddance.

[colorado_ufo]

299. Every day brings a fascinating turn of events.

My wish would be for him to be reincarnated as a 1) black 2) female 3) Democrat 4) living in Florida.

If that's not possible, I would hope that he would at least be enlightened.

[youngdem]

303. Here's to hoping he is in the bowels of hell pleading for his soul

:toast:

One of the ten worst Americans alive this morning is now dead. It has been a good day!

[fudge stripe cookays]

304. The Castro, Cedar Springs, West Hollywood, Montrose....

and so many more neighborhoods will be HOPPING tonight.

:D

[Throd]

305. Looking forward to wiping my ass with that obituary tomorrow.

[Name removed]

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[proudlibal]

341. FOOL

What about the VENOM that this hate-filled, judgmental asshole spewed? What about saying that Gays and abortionists, the ACLU and People for the American Way, were in some way RESPONSIBLE for 9/11? You fool!!! Were you equally as mad about his venomous attacks?

[fudge stripe cookays]

356. .

BTW, I only hope that I may be able to live my life so as to merit half this much hate.


Oh...make no mistake. If you count yourself among the idiotic masses who voted for Bush (since you could NEVER vote for a Democrat), you can count yourself among that number already. Buh bye.

[David Zephyr]

310. May his soul be cast into the lake of fire. Praise the Lord that this wicked man is dead!

Sorry. I have no sorrow that this son of a bitch is dead and off of this wonderful planet because he can no longer hurt gay and lesbians anymore. His wicked and vile and evil mouth has finally been silenced.

I only wish that there was a lake of fire that he preached about so that he could be tossed there in punishment for whipping up hatred, bigotry and violence against the GLBT community.

This was a very wicked man and I hold him in equal contempt with Osama Bin Laden.

[stopbush]

311. Glad he's dead.

There's no god, so it's over. All he has left is his earthly legacy. We can all take solace in the fact that history
will not be kind to this bigot. Eventually, even Liberty U will tear down the wall placques that celebrate this
horrible person.

[sobanos]

314. It’s a WIN-WIN…………….

………. truly.

I mean, for all of the people that cared for this man---- they should be happy that Falwell is now with the god he believed to exist.

And for all of the people that recognized the social and political damage that he did over the past 20-30 years---- they should be happy as well.

GOOD RIDDANCE!!!!

[diane in sf]

317. Unfortunately there are a lot more of them to take his place. eom

Wing nut Christians are like heads on the Hydra.

[Neshanic]

318. Please purchase " Moral Majority Worms" for burial with him...

They are "Triple Blessed" for your confidence, as they do the Lord's work in the big cycle of life.

Oh, and just because he's dead, don't think you are off the hook for a check...

[Arugula Latte]

354. Yep -- Gotta keep the Big Business of religion humming along! nt

[alfredo]

320. He preyed on my father, and so did Robertson. When he asked for

prayers for his fight for cancer, they hit him up for money. When the cancer got worse they said he wasn't showing enough sacrifice, and asked for more money to show his commitment. My sister stepped in and stopped them. She got power of attorney. She had the phone number changed to stop the harassing phone calls.

Falwell sent his lawyers to our state to see if they can seize the estates of people who had signed a tithe contract (agreed to tithe on a regular basis) then died.

[Frank Cannon]

328. That Jerry. What a guy.

Sorry to hear about your personal experience with him.

[alfredo]

332. Mom had Alzheimer's and dad had cancer that spread to his brain.

Jim and Tammy got in their shots too. They descended on mom and dad just like the vultures they are. Luckily my sister stopped payments before mom and dad were driven into poverty. Those fucking Christian vultures wouldn't have stopped until they bled mom and dad dry.

[Frank Cannon]

349. I see a lot of defense of Tammy Faye on these boards

Evidently, there was a documentary produced a few years ago ("The Eyes of Tammy Faye", or some such nonsense) that portrays Tammy to be a great, kindhearted, misguided individual who just happened to throw in with the wrong crowd. I haven't seen the movie, so I can't comment on it. But apparently a lot of people here were moved by it.

The way I see it, Tammy was a willing co-conspirator in the systematic defrauding of untold numbers of vulnerable people like your parents. I hardly think a gun was held to her head while she participated in her religious extortion of millions of dollars. I'm so sick of all these con artists. I can't say I'm heartbroken that one of them is gone.

[alfredo]

357. The only time I ever felt sorry for her was when she tripped and fell

face first. Her face stuck to the floor and it took some industrial solvent and a pry bar to pry her from the tiles.

[RaleighNCDUer]

477. OTOH, she did do something of an about-face after her husband

went to prison - she came out as gay-friendly, seemed genuinely repentent of the fraud she was caught up in and turned away from their former high-rolling lifestyle.

What she's done since I don't know, never been interested in finding out, but it would appear that Jim Bakker was the primary force in the con.

[silverojo]

452. God, what evil people!

I'm sorry to hear about your experience with those vultures. :(

[alfredo]

459. So glad we were able to stop them from their assault on our

family.

Back in the seventies a kid from our town went to work for the Christian Broadcasting Network. He was young and idealistic. A few months after leaving for there, he returned home. He had changed. He was quiet and seemed angry and depressed. He had quit when he was invited to join some wife swapping and other unspecified sex activities. We wanted him to blow the whistle on them, but he just wanted to forget all about it.

[NoSheep]

321. What a waste. He could have been over in Iraq saving a soul.

After torching the soul's house, murdering a daughter or two and calling her a heathen. How could God do this when Jerry still had so much work to do?

:shrug:

[april]

322. things run in 3's well who is next ? / nm

[madrchsod]

323. the world is probably better off without him

i wonder if he had enough time to repent his sins.....

[Kindigger]

330. Farewell, you will not be missed. Parting lyrics for you enclosed.

Some humans ain't human
Some people ain't kind
You open up their hearts
And here's what you'll find
A few frozen pizzas
Some ice cubes with hair
A broken Popsicle
You don't want to go there

Some humans ain't human
Though they walk like we do
They live and they breathe
Just to turn the old screw
They screw you when you're sleeping
They try to screw you blind
Some humans ain't human
Some people ain't kind

You might go to church
And sit down in a pew
Those humans who ain't human
Could be sittin' right next to you
They talk about your family
They talk about your clothes
When they don't know their own ass
From their own elbows..........

John Prine

[Ian David]

331. How long before the first illegitimate child shows up? n/t

[stimbox]

334. Good riddance to bad trash.

:applause: :woohoo:

[aquart]

335. Seems to have died quickly.

Unlike the suffering of the people his influence has injured.

As a New Yorker, I am sorry he didn't have to leap 100 floors from a burning building. But that's just me.

[progressivebydesign]

337. Condolences to his family. That's all I can muster right now.

I know that many people loved him. I personally found his hate-mongering for profit to be inexcusable... and I truly now wish that there is a heaven, and St. Peter is there to discuss how he lived his life and why it's not keeping with what Jesus had in mind. That's about as civil as I can be.

[iamahaingttta]

338. And now he lays in darkness...

...the eternal nothingness that is death.
He wasted his life on a fairy tale, and for that his reward is dirt.
There is no St. Peter awaiting him at the Pearly Gates.
There is no Satan awaiting him in Hell.
There is nothing except nothing.

Nothing.
And that's what he deserves for fooling so many people.
For taking money for a fantasy from people hoping for salvation.
There is no salvation beyond good works in this life, and he will now never know that.

There are most likely good people in his family, as in every family.
We're sorry for your loss...

[Pab Sungenis]

342. Thank you, God...

...for letting Tammy Faye live long enough to see Falwell dead.

You are a just God.

[CANDO]

344. He'll receive his just rewards....

in hell! As a person, he may have had some good qualities. But the destruction and stress he has brought into the body politic will long be felt.

[C.J.]

346. Ha ha

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahah! Same response if Cheney, Bush, Rumsfeld kick. It's not like publicly dancing on a grave, it's happiness and gloating amongst friends. Or not. Fuck him, he's gone.

[slackmaster]

348. My condolences to his friends and family

n/t

[WorseBeforeBetter]

350. Wonder if SpongeBob has issued a statement.

[eridani]

352. Zen commentary

Student: Where do enlightened ones go after the illusion of death?
Master: How should I know?
Student: Because you are an enlightened man.
Master: That, maybe--but not a dead one.

[Seabiscuit]

355. What killed him? Will someone on Fox News blame it on Clinton's penis?

[HuffleClaw]

358. geeze, the body hasn't hit room temperature yet

i guess as it doesn't bode well to speak ill of the dead i'll simply say he was a guy who certainly was firm in his convictions.

[graywarrior]

359. He didn't die---he got RAPTURED.

[earthlover]

360. I can't believe I am doing this....or have to....

....I am a Wellstone liberal, and almost nothing in common with Jerry Falwell. In fact, Falwell represents almost everything I find appalling in religion and politics.

I was living in Minnesota when Wellstone, one of my real life heroes, died. I vividly remember participating in a local political blog, arguing with a right wing Christian who was dancing on Wellstone's grave, saying he was in hell, or words to that effect. I remember how angry that made me feel. I remember the amazement I had that any human being could cast aspersions on a man on the same day of his death in a public forum, or worse still, express happiness that he was in hell now. I remember telling myself that Democrats have a lot more class than than, that a Democrat would not act so crassly. Democrats have compassion, and are not so bound by politics as to denigrate humanity and human beings in such a time. I thought compassion was part of what a Democrat is.

I guess I was wrong. I am embarrassed by this thread. There is enough venom in this thread, and much of it is even more off-the-wall and mean-spirited than what upset me so much when I was grieving Wellstone.

I cannot say I respect Falwell's religion or politics, and I despise much of what he has done. I can say one thing, however, positive about him. And, yes, it is the only thing I can think of. I was having breakfast in Lynchburg with my girlfriend and we noticed that Falwell was there in the restaurant with what appeared to be his extended family. I can say that he was doting over who appeared to be his grandkids and there was love in his eyes and theirs. So, in spite of his views, which I totally disagree with, I imagine his family right now has every right to be very sad. I would also add that some of the lack of compassion I have seen on this board is un-called-for and demonstrates the very inhumanity that some of you pretend to hate in others but apparently think it is another story if you are the one spewing the venom. Pot, meet kettle.

There is yet another level that I am upset at this. I know in my heart that MOST Democrats are compassionate people. The party lives on its compassion. Yet a handful of knuckleheads say stupid things that make it harder for Democrats to win in elections. IT IS PRECISELY the sort of hateful crap that I see above that can be used against Democrats in elections, to paint us as elitist, base, crass, hypocritical, hateful, and...especially....anti-religion. We are not going to win any elections when we can successfully be pegged anti-religion, and it is threads like this that give our enemies lots of ammunition to use against us.

We have such an opportunity in 08. The independents and moderates....many of whom are religious.....right now are inclined to vote our way. However, all the Religious Right has to do....like they have done before....is paint the Dems as being anti-religion and they maybe could actually win. If that happens, who will I be madder at...the right for exploiting us or the hotheads among us who seem intent on bringing ourselves down by the same arrogance and lack of compassion we hate in others? Now THAT is a difficult question.

[Tarc]

367. compassion?

For a piece of trash that gives Hitler-esque soliloquies on how AIDS is god's judgedment on homosexiality, on how 9/11 was brought about for America's tolerance for gays, athiests, feminists, etc...?

No, none at all. He led a bitter, spite-filled, hate-filled life. The world is better off with his departure. Period.

The idiots over in FReeperland are spouting gibberish like "Hatred of Falwell by those on the left illustrates just how effective he was. The darkness hates the light", proof enough that one less bigot in the world is a good thing.

[earthlover]

375. yes compassion....

Jesus said to love our enemies. Falwell ignored this. But that does not mean WE have to ignore this CENTRAL TEACHING of Jesus.

It is called compassion. Anyone can love those we agree with. Even Hitler could do that. Compassionate people do that for humanity in general, we don't single out those who we agree or disagree with. This is the sort of thing Falwell did.

So how can we, with a straight face, criticize Falwell for his lack of compassion when we do EXACTLY the same thing?

Only a JERK dances on someone elses grave before it is even dug. Quite frankly, I would a a STUPID JERK. Because almost every sane person recognizes this and people who do this only weaken their own side.

Could you uncompassionate people PLEASE join the Republican Party? You are making it harder for us Democrats to win elections. And I am tired of Republicans. Friends like you, we don't need enemies.

[Zenlitened]

433. Where would calling people "stupid jerks" and telling them to....

... "join the republican party" fall on the Compassion Scale?

Do you have even the barest inkling of the range of personalities and life experiences of the people you so blithely condemn?

Have you ever stood in their shoes... or even tried?

If you can't understand the depth of hurt that so many people have suffered as a direct result of this one man, then I think you're the last person who should be judging anothers' comnpassion.

And if you think a victim's relief, even joy, that a perpetrator will never victimize again is somehow equivalent to the original offense or crime... well. That strikes me as a mindset utterly devoid of compassion.

What nerve.

[silverojo]

455. Look, idiot--

It's this sort of wimpiness that has lost elections for the Democrats repeatedly.

If you can find that much compassion for this evil human being, YOU'RE the one who needs to join the Republican party.

As a follow-up, why don't you go over to some Jewish forum and suggest that they find "compassion" in their hearts for Hitler?

[TankLV]

482. Only a fucking JERK would try to defend the indefensible...

Only a JERK would spend time to ridicule those who JUSTLY condemn that vile creature in word only fitting for the EVIL bastard.

Look in the mirror...

[Danger Mouse]

361. I feel no joy in his passing, though he was a loathsome human being.

The only person who I might might be happy to hear about passing on will be Fred Phelps, a far more disgusting piece of trash than Falwell could ever hope to be.
In any case, Falwell was an evil hypocrite. I wish no further suffering on him then those of his own conscience when he comes to understand the wickedness he stood for in life.

[Christa]

364. Is it too soon

to dance on his grave yet? :evilgrin:

[WindRavenX]

369. have fun in hell, fatass

:hi:

[Robbins]

372. My Take

I feel sorry for any family he has but I won't miss him,and he was enough to turn you Into a aethist.

[Fox Mulder]

371. Oh well.

:shrug:

I'm not going to miss him. I hope he burns for all eternity.

[YellowRubberDuckie]

376. Sean Hannity called DU names today...

...because we were way too happy his friend bit the big one. Who cares? Falwell celebrated the deaths of people from AIDS, deaths of Feminists and Atheists.
So, we shall celebrate the death of a hateful, ugly man who I will never doubt is rotting in hell.
Duckie

[Name removed]

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[earthlover]

382. are you in favor of political suicide? count me out....

....here is the DUH statement of the thread: we are giving our enemies ammunition to use against Democrats. Shut the fxxk up already! See where this is getting us?

You don't speak for most Democrats. Most Democrats are compassionate, neat people. All it takes is a handful of idiots and our entire party can be portrayed as idiots.

Who cares? I do. Because I want Democrats to win elections. I am tired of being governed by dumb-sters like Bush.

Again, if you want to act in such a way as to cost your party votes....by stupidity....kindly join the Republican Party!!!! Your kind of help we don't need over here.

Don't you see that you are giving the radical right ammunition to fire their big guns with?

[Name removed]

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[earthlover]

391. SOME HERE certainly are acting to bring out the REPUBLICAN VOTE!

w....hich makes all the votes I work hard for the Democrats sorta cancelled out. How about this: Why don't we help the Democrats by NOT bringing out the Republican vote? Get it straight....bring out the Democrats to the polls. I know some are intent on bringing folks to the polls, but so far the only ones I can see being brought to the polls on this thread are Republicans.

And as to your saying to a liberal Democrat f-you....well, do you think that is going to help your side any?

Just sounds like you are an angry petty person. Sorta like someone who would dance on someone's grave or something....right?

Again, if you are going to act in such a way as to hurt your own party's chances....PLEASE join the Republican Party!!!! We work hard for the votes we bring out. We don't need them cancelled by idiots.

[greyghost]

406. Learn to count...

Bottom line, there are more of us then there are of them.

There is no way they can steal an election unless we let them by not coming out.

May Falwell be joined soon by Pat Robertson and may they both rot in hell!:bounce:

[TankLV]

483. Oh get over yourself. If they can't face the TRUTH, they will NEVER vote for us...

Stop wasting your time on the 20 percenters.

Over 80% or the repuke party still support the WAR CRIMINAL - and now we know they make up LESS THAN TWENTY PERCENT of the populace!

WE DON'T WANT THEM OR NEED THEM!

STOP WASTING YOUR TIME WORRING ABOUT THE EVIL - YES EVIL REPUKES - AND JOIN THE REST OF THE US!

I doubt "you" are a "we"...

[Arugula Latte]

387. They'd fire their big guns no matter what was said.

They'll make stuff up, they'll quote anything, they'll say: "Liberals are saying..."

There's no way to beat them by appeasing them.

[greyghost]

388. Exactly...

FUCK THEM and the Dick (CHENEY)they rode in on!

[earthlover]

393. No they won't HAVE to make stuff up if....

...we say stuff nobody in their right minds could imagine we would say!

And here I see it on this board!

Political hari-kari

[Arugula Latte]

394. And when we cower before them they rip us to shreds anyway.

I'm done cowering before these people.

[earthlover]

395. who said anything about cowering?

Fight them, but fight smart. You don't fight them by HELPING them. You fight them by HURTING them. Dancing on Falwell's grave HELPS them. That is worse than cowering. With cowering you just don't fight back. Seeing us dance on Falwell's grave for them is like a kid in a candy shop. I bet they cannot believe how much ammunition they have received for their evil fight from us. Hey folks....the Democrats are on our side! Don't give ammunition to the enemy. K?

[earthlover]

402. I would like to confront the religious right....not cower...

I would like to be able to point out how they are arrogant, twist Jesus' message, and turn the gospel of love into one of scorn for those with whom they disagree. Now, any time someone makes this point, the right can say..."well, look at DU, they do the same thing, look at all the hip-hip-hurraying over Falwell's death before he was even buried!" So, now, because of some of the posts above, anyone trying to make a serious challenge to the Religious Right will have a more difficult time because a handful of idiots acted just like the things they don't like about Falwell.

Again, to those who are dancing...try to remember that some of us want Democrats to win elections....and also try to remember that some of us religious liberals want to challenge the hypocrisy of the religious right. We don't need your foolishness and it is making our job harder!

[greyghost]

407. Exactly...

Fuck them!:evilgrin:

[TankLV]

484. And you're a COWARD - hide your profile even here...

Just joined up to bash US...

NICE...

[YellowRubberDuckie]

427. Please...

I'm compassionate. I'm neat, or so I'm told...
And I really don't appreciate you calling me an idiot or stupid. Because when you call people that, you make people think the same thing about you. Just because you don't agree with what I say, calling me stupid is not negating or debating my point. It just makes you look like you're upset that I disagree with you.
And I think I made my point quite clearly. I'm not going to pretend to be sad that one of the ugliest, meanest men on the planet is dead. I don't pretend, I don't lie, and I don't act as if I believe one way, when I think another just because of what one person or another might think. And I'm not going to apologize for it.
Duckie

[DainBramaged]

486. Shit Hannity, just another douche bag phony for Christ

[DetroitProle]

377. I'm not going to rejoice or grieve

but we have to remember, that his death is not a victory.
Hitler died and there were countless other Hitlers who came after him.
Falwell was just one of many who stood for, championed, and advanced despicable causes.
So he's gone. Now we have to keep working and hoping for a better world where views such as his will be regulated solely to the dustbin of history.

[Kerrytravelers]

381. That's how I feel, too.

[Stuckinthebush]

420. Not a victory, but a relief...

A relief from one more hate filled voice.

A relief from a powerful man who had the ability to poison children's minds.

A relief from a fool who had the ability and the method to deceive too many Americans.

Victory? Hell no. But we can celebrate the relief.

[greyghost]

378. At times like these...

I want to believe there is a just God.

Because if there is, this fucker is rotting in hell for eternity.:evilgrin: :nuke:

Rest In Shit motherfucker!

[DuaneBidoux]

380. Obviously the Flying Sphagetti Monster's wrath for worshiping a false god.

[Hyper_Eye]

383. I wish nothing but the best for him

As someone who has been lurking on this forum for 3+ years I find many of the comments here out of character for DU. A man passed away today and my thoughts are with his family. I hope he rests in peace. DU is better then all this. That is why I am on the left, because we are better then them. I am not going to judge him. If there is a one supreme judge then I leave the judgement to him/her.

[maseman]

400. I would usually agree with you

But I do not care about Falwell or his family. They represent pure evil and filth. When Hitler died I can't amagine anyone wished his family prayers or solice.

Fuck Falwell, his family and Liberty University. I am glad he's dead. The world is a better place without his hate, swill and garbage.

[tomp]

414. oh. please.

his family is probably just as bad as he is...oops...was.

this holier-than-thou bullshit is nauseating. one less evil person in the world is a good thing, worthy of celebration. you really think his family cares what we say? they know he had his detractors (to put it mildly). if there was any relative of his who tried to set him straight, i.e., on a truly moral path, i feel sorry for them. i doubt one exists.

[Zenlitened]

435. I am more than willing to judge him.

"...I am not going to judge him. If there is a one supreme judge then I leave the judgement to him/her.

It's our responsibilty as moral beings to judge the actions, influence or accomplishments of others. In fact, I'd argue that refusing to judge such a person, who made a careering out of poisoning society, is a form of moral failure itself.

Falwell worked hard to earn every ounce of condemnation he received, in life or in death. We didn't create his legacy. He did.

[TankLV]

485. Then it is people like YOU who allow people like FATWELL to succeed...

Know that you are a "good German"...

YOU allow the evil to continue unconfronted, unchecked...

YOU.

[juno jones]

386. May he rot in pieces

OOOPPPSIE, I MEANT rest in peace, but this just SLIPPED out! :sarcasm: When's Schlafly gonna join the WEENIE roast? :evilgrin:

[DemKR]

389. BOOHOO!!!

I thought you had to have a heart for it to fail!

[muntrv]

Falwell is in Hell with Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot.

[muntrv]

390. Falwell is in Hell with Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot.

[President Jesus]

413. Really?

Sure, the guy was a self-righteous schwanz, but Pol Pot? Hitler?

Excuse me while I :eyes:.

[anotherdrew]

454. he would have been just like them in a second if given the power n/t

[greiner3]

396. He was a nasty mother of a fucker;

And all the crap he had accumulated is going to his two fundy sons. May the worms have a great field day upon his corpse, right before they regurgitate on an indigestible meal.

[Megahurtz]

397. Hoooly!

:wow:

...and I'm not being sarcastic either.

[AwareOne]

398. Rot in hell you son of a bitch

I'd like to know where he is buried so I can go shit on his grave.

[CRH]

399. BREAKING, Jerry with Saint Peter, at the Pearly Gates! ...

From the recorded history of intolerance and hate, in the words of Reverend Falwell, archived below;

Saint Peter--The world below is rife with intolerance, war, disease, and misery; of body, mind, and soul. Tell me what you have learned in your journey. To this Jerry answered.

AIDS is not just God's punishment for homosexuals; it is God's punishment for the society that tolerates homosexuals.

Homosexuality is Satan's diabolical attack upon the family that will not only have a corrupting influence upon our next generation, but it will also bring down the wrath of God upon America.

Someone must not be afraid to say, 'moral perversion is wrong.' If we do not act now, homosexuals will 'own' America!...If you and I do not speak up now, this homosexual steamroller will literally crush all decent men, women, and children who get in its way...and our nation will pay a terrible price!

But, isn't that Gay bashing, Jerry?

Any sex outside of the marriage bond between a man and a woman is violating God's law.

I listen to feminists and all these radical gals - most of them are failures. They've blown it. Some of them have been married, but they married some Casper Milquetoast who asked permission to go to the bathroom. These women just need a man in the house. That's all they need. Most of the feminists need a man to tell them what time of day it is and to lead them home. And they blew it and they're mad at all men. Feminists hate men. They're sexist. They hate men - that's their problem.

But Jerry, women have real minds, they can think, make their own decisions, they have rights that extend beyond religious dogma.

The argument that making contraceptives available to young people would prevent teen pregnancies is ridiculous. That's like offering a cookbook as a cure to people who are trying to lose weight.

But Jerry, If there is to be no tolerance with gays, and women should be happy to be barefoot and pregnant, what say you of religion?

I think the Moslem faith teaches hate.

And, these Islamic fundamentalists, these radical terrorists, these Middle Eastern monsters are committed to destroying the Jewish nation, driving her into the Mediterranean, conquering the world.

I had a student ask me, "Could the savior you believe in save Osama bin Laden?" Of course, we know the blood of Jesus Christ can save him, and then he must be executed.

If I were president of the United States, I would include Moslems in my presidency.

Why Jerry, to teach hate? ... Never mind Jerry. So if you believe your government should have spiritual diversity, shouldn't all religions be on equal footing?

Scientology has a terrible track record of bigotry.

So what is the solution?

The idea that religion and politics don't mix was invented by the Devil to keep Christians from running their own country.

I hope I live to see the day when, as in the early days of our country, we won't have any public schools. The churches will have taken them over again and Christians will be running them. What a happy day that will be!

And so, Jerry, for the politics of your country to be successful they should be indoctrinated with Christianity?

If you're not a born-again Christian, you're a failure as a human being.

Christians, like slaves and soldiers, ask no questions.

I see Jerry, but I must say, your views are even more radical that those of ole, Billy Graham.

Billy Graham is the chief servant of Satan in America.

So Jerry, who is the person to save America?

I am such a strong admirer and supporter of George W. Bush that if he suggested eliminating the income tax or doubling it, I would vote yes on first blush.

To that Saint Peter said, Well history has been your judge, as well as your own words. I think we need to fill the heavens with compassion for all, fill the heavens with hope and eternal internal peace; and you need to take the elevator to the bottom floor, that's right, press the button marked 'H'.  

[Tektonik]

401. Rot in hell jackass

Falwell is one of the few men I'd spit on his/her grave, the subhuman piece of shit.

[Bravo Zulu]

403. The devil is shaking in his boots

because The devil don’t like competition

[liberal renegade]

404. See Ya, wouldn't wanna be ya.....

[Raine]

405. What can be said of a man so evil

and so full of hate...I guess God will be the judge.

[sakabatou]

409. Well...

I won't be crying.

[Megahurtz]

410. Actually......

.....Thank God!

[uncertainty1999]

418. maybe he'll be reincarnated into a lesbian with a life-threatening pregnancy n/t

[Jamastiene]

423. For real this time?

Good and dead? Well, I'll afford him more respect in death than he afforded any in the GLBT community or women in his life. May he RIP and stay dead this time. No more teasing like last time.

[nodehopper]

424. fred phelps is protesting at his funeral!

[IndianaGreen]

464. GAWD Hates Fags! And Falwell is One! Saith Fred Phelps!

Falwell and his inbred family truly deserve Fred Phelps crashing the funeral.

[DainBramaged]

428. I get yelled at for "pissing on graves"

This is one I'd get in line for.


Mr. Falwell's spirit should (hopefully) never reappear in the cosmos except as a rock in a sewage treatment plant or a shellfish.


Preach this Jerry.

[Raster]

448. And I'd join you. Pass the diuretics and Crystal Geyser.

[Vidar]

429. Hell has a new resident.

[In Truth We Trust]

434. FUCK him and the horse he rode in on!

[Mountainman]

437. Whenever a big ticket right winger dies we always have the debate on how to treat the dead.

I don't think Falwell suddenly becomes a good guy because he is dead. I have nothing good to say about him so I won't say anything. The right will use what we say in their bullshit attempts to make us look bad and that doesn't bother me.

[skyounkin]

439. One more nail in the coffin

for the hate crime that is religion.

[Manix]

445. ....homophobic bigot......

[greyghost]

453. May he...

rot in HELL!:evilfrown:

[louisjcarey]

456. Ding Dong...

..the witch is dead!!!

[Digit]

460. I mentioned that JF had died to my co-worker and she had no idea who he was.

I repeated his name, and mentioned Lynchburg, Va, and still she had no clue.
Then again, I live in NC....need I say more?

[IndianaGreen]

463. Falwell was a charlatan, a toad of a man, a peddler of religious smut

I am glad we are rid of him!

[aaronbees]

465. I won't shed one tear or worry for the man or his shiftless, shitty soul

There's one less homophobic, sexist, racist demagogue on the earth now .... one who will no more wield power over millions of his fervent, deluded faithful and no more instill his particularly incendiary brand of manipulative fear. The sad thing is, there will surely be someone to take his place.

And that's really all I got to say about it.

[David__77]

466. I'm sorry he wasn't reeducated before he died.

I believe in mercy. I would have welcomed Falwell had he adopted the correct standpoint and worked to undo the evil he perpetuated. We can only hope that others will avoid the sad fate of his life and death.

[Kolesar]

467. "Reverend" Falwell isn't "revered" by me

Here's to the original thread title, breaking news, FALWELL DEAD. I was there before the skin died and the chunk grew cold :toast:

[Perry Logan]

468. I am trying not to dance.

It's hard not to dance. I am trying not to dance.

[killbotfactory]

469. I blame the gays, feminists, and lesbians

just like he did, after 9/11...

Did I get my ticket to heaven yet?

[Bright Eyes]

473. Well, only the good die young.....

[johnludi]

474. Jerry Falwell, my personal eulogy.

(This is on my MySpace blog and my website, but I figured some of you would get a giggle out of it. Delete it if you feel it is unsuitable...)


Mere words cannot convey my depth of feeling at the passing of the Reverend Jerry Falwell...what can be said regarding such a man? Language fails at such a task.

But try I must...

To say that he was a fat, corpulent, bloated pus-balloon filled to bursting with the rancid bile of stupidity, myopia and hate would only minimize and trivialize his portly presence on the world stage and make him smaller than he actually was...for he was not a small man.

To say that he was a pompous, ignorant, jingo-spewing blitherer who pontificated endlessly about areas of thought that he was far too thoughtless to even begin to understand is to make him out to be far more profound a thinker than he actually was...for he was not a wise man.

To say that he was a hateful, spiteful, prejudiced, homophobic and misogynistic pig who spread a message of exclusion in direct opposition to the actual teachings of the spiritual leader he claimed to represent would make him out to be far more kind then he actually was...for he was not a kind man.

To say that he was a hypocritical soulless douchebag whose craven smirking made a blatant mockery of all things truly divine and spiritual for the sake of mere filthy lucre would make out to be far more pious than he actually was...for he was not a pious man.

No, indeed, let us speak of him as he actually was: a walking bucket of puke who spread evil and darkness in accordance of the wishes of his TRUE master. Falwell was a symptom of a society in decline and a clear harbinger of civilizational collapse. A signpost pointing the way to a potential future intolerance that could make his own horrific contributions to a world at the edge of ruin pale by comparision.

We have always had people like Jerry Falwell, but the society we have created gave him far more of a public platform to spew forth his anti-intellectual toxins than he ever should have been given. Alleged "news" organizations would actually utilize him as a learned spokesman and pundit, where he should have been a backwoods preacher who never made it out of the trailer park.

He was what he was, the bastard, but his impact on the world stage is our own fault. We should be ashamed for our part in it.

To conclude...Falwell was one of those people who makes me want to believe in the traditional Christian comic book hell. I picture him there now, being abused in a most graphic way by an army of demonic Teletubbies, a drooling and multi-horned Tinky Winky at the fore...doing unspeakable things to him with a purse filled with various and sundry powertools.

May he pay a steep price for he actions, his lack of character, and the damage to our culture that he willfully and (in my opinion) knowingly caused.

Burn Jerry, burn…your death should have been far more ignoble...it should have better reflected your blighted soul.

[greyghost]

478. Priceless n/t

[L. Coyote]

479. HELP list the BUSH/CHENEY scandals, PLEASE ... list just toooo long

This is just too much work for less than a group.

Yesterday was a GREAT DAY for Falwell TO DIE. Or, the Buffalo Jump to Hell.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x899312

"You have to give America's most-hated Christian a lot of credit. Even in taking his final fall (while alive), to the floor in his office at oxymoronic "Liberty University" in solitude, he pulled off a thorough going coup like noone else could have mustered. Like the lead buffalo of a large herd, he caused a massive shift in direction as he went down. Except, in this case, the herd that followed him in his descent wasn't his own--he took the opposition herd down with him, over the buffalo jump to hell. .... "

[lancer78]

481. I have no pity

for America's OBL.