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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-14-07 11:50 PM
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Perle Turns on Bush in Harsh Terms
Source: NY Sun

The Bush administration is beginning to appease rather than confront America's enemies, a former chairman of the Defense Policy Board and leading neoconservative thinker said yesterday, describing the president as "a failure" who is proving powerless to impose his views on his administration.

Richard Perle offered a withering assessment of the president's impotence at a meeting of the Hudson Institute in New York, saying American foreign policy is being applied by an out-of-control State Department.

Although Mr. Perle said he no longer has access to the president, he said his conversations with those close to the White House led him to a pessimistic view of how foreign policy is currently conducted, with a profound disconnect between President Bush's wishes and how the administration carries out policies in his name.

"We have already seen a change in policy towards Iran," he said. "It is now firmly back in the hands of the Department of State." Mr. Perle's assessment is recognized by an expert on defense policy at the American Enterprise Institute, Thomas Donnelly, who said Mr. Bush is routinely frustrated by "establishment" thinking within Washington and that the failure to respond to the president's more radical thinking has harmed American policy in Iraq.

Read more: http://www.nysun.com/article/54448



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A year from now, I'll be very surprised if there is not some grand square in Baghdad that is named after President Bush. -- Richard Perle

http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/r/richard_per...
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-14-07 11:55 PM
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1. I have no words to show how much I detest Bush and his backers
They are either stupid, insane, or traitors to America.
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Riverman Donating Member (759 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 12:00 AM
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2. Perle and all of the NeoCons MUST BE TRIED FOR CRIMES
Against Humanity, war profiteering and treason against the United States of America. There needs to be a Nuremberg-like public trial to try, convict and publically execute these most dispicable criminals. That's all!
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 12:24 AM
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7. For some reason, I always think of Julia Child when I see Perle
although she was more personable and manly.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 01:19 AM
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15. did you know that Perle loves to cook souffles?
He has a house in the south of France, you know.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 05:52 AM
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37. It seem someone slammed the door on his Souffle
Looks kinda flat.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 11:12 AM
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73. it's weird the things righties will overlook.
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 07:40 AM
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55. I've been told she was a better cook, too.
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anotherdrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 12:25 AM
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8. it's true, a million dead Iraqi's (who wouldn't be dead had we not invaded) is a lot of blood
maybe it's still too early, but some kind of justice is going to be asked for, in the long run... I just don't see how we can get past the cost of this folly in human lives... will any justice be possible? What would it be? I just don't know what to think, it's somewhat unheard of for politicians to have to answer for their "mistakes"/crimes?
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pokercat999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 05:29 AM
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36. Justice.............a word that has no meaning in America.
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Thor_MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 08:27 PM
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87. If I was Pearle's age and was carrying his karmic baggage, I'd be religion shopping
Looking for the easiest version of hell I could find, because that's his destination.
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truth2power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 07:18 AM
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49. EXACTLY what you said. And re: the article...
Richard Perle pontificates . He doesn't "think".
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 03:57 PM
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85. Not sure execution is called for. Think life in prison w/o parole would
be more fitting and appropriate as a deterrent to future would-be aggressors.
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Paranoid Pessimist Donating Member (432 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 09:37 AM
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67. They're all three n/t
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 12:08 AM
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3. LOL. Yeah, it's the careerists in the State Department that have fucked things up.
Jesus, just crawl back to Hell already, Dick.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 12:14 AM
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4. So much for richard perle's
pearls of wisdom..

"A year from now, I'll be very surprised if there is not some grand square in Baghdad that is named after President Bush. -- Richard Perle"


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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 06:41 AM
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44. Well he was kind of Right...
Green Zone...Bush...That's about as close as it's gotten so far.
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 08:17 AM
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60. Yeah - the Green Zone. That's it!
It's exactly like Embassy Row, but with a shitload more razor wire and loaded M-16s.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 09:42 AM
Response to Reply #4
68. delusional too, he's a very dangerous man.
he is pushing the PNAC agenda all the way.
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 12:14 AM
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5. nevermind that the president's "more radical thinking" isn't his own
thinking, but that of guys like Thomas Donnelly and Richard Perle, and the rest of the dipshits that got us in this wreck of a foreign policy in the first place.
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Maccagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 12:27 AM
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9. How much more death and destruction does this man want?
The end game, to him, can only mean nuking all threats, real or perceived. Complete madness! Does this man have children or grandchildren and what kind of world does he envision them inheriting?
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 12:40 AM
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13. perpetual war for peace
and he sees nothing wrong with that, or being a war profiteer either. The system is ugly and Richard Perle is the poster child for how ugly it is.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 12:22 AM
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6. Dicks hands are red with blood and there is no washing to make them clean
He is an asshole who helped to create this mess in Iraq
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 12:32 AM
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10. Fucking Asshole Piece of Shit Monster Excuse for a Human Being Richard Perle!!!!!!
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enki23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 12:33 AM
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11. he's angry that we haven't invaded iran, isn't he.
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vickitulsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 12:34 AM
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12. Oh, it's so much fun to watch them devour each other.
The more it becomes apparent that this administration will go down in history as the worst ever, the quicker many 'Pukes are to turn on the very ones they lauded so loudly before.

I love it! Even the disinterested public surely cannot help but notice as we keep hearing GOP and neocon party loyalists and fanatics attacking their own and dismembering their party from the inside.

The most delightful part of all is seeing how the dim son who for too long enjoyed such nonsensical praise and boostering from his party has become now the one every 'Puke wants to run as far away from as possible. He is surely starting to feel like the world's loneliest guy these days, don't you think?

I hope we can look forward to more of the same as GOPers repeatedly employ the devastating term "failure" for the Pretzeldent we all know is one!

May they find many more descriptive terms just as damaging to their former "star's" legacy as well.

By the time the inauguration of January 09 rolls around, I expect Americans of all persuasions will be heaving huge sighs of relief just to be done with that disgraceful administration. Imagine how wonderful it will be to see the nightmare end, at least in this form!, and know we won't have to endure the bumbling embarrassment of a president stammering his way through public appearances and speeches anymore.

I think we should work to revive that perfectly descriptive sentence from the Nixon diaries: "Our long national nightmare is over." It may have been used in reference to the war in Vietnam, but it may as well have been alluding to the Nixon presidency and how we all felt when he waved bye-bye as he left in disgrace.

I think that sentiment certainly applies again these days as we watch the current nightmare proceding through its messy denoument.


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Cobalt-60 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 03:54 AM
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29. There must be way to get some gasoline into this fire!
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GOTV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 08:13 AM
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58. The disinterested public remains disinterested....

> Even the disinterested public surely cannot help but
> notice as we keep hearing GOP and neocon party loyalists
> and fanatics attacking their own and dismembering their
> party from the inside.

I'll bet 75% do not know the name Richard Perl and 90% can't correctly identify his affiliation with the Bush admin.
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 12:57 AM
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14. Simon Bar Sinister ....


This animal is one piece of work .....

His hatred of diplomacy is right up front .... He would prefer to simply slaughter those who disagree ... Perle is THE problem with the human race ...

Perle IS the wart ....
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Cobalt-60 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 03:53 AM
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28. I didn't know what Bar Sinister meant as a kid
hehe
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DesEtoiles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 01:24 AM
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16. go fuck yourself Perle, you bastard
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 03:32 AM
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27. I object.
how DARE you insult bastards with that comparison? I mean really. Have a heart, because not all bastards are as evil as Perle.
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 01:25 AM
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17. Oh good. Newt preaching about morality. The Hamper lecturing about ethics.
Edited on Tue May-15-07 01:25 AM by Lasher
And now this sermon from Perle about government out of control.

Amazing, how these discredited people should be looking for rocks to crawl under, but instead they seek the limelight to proclaim everything that went wrong was always somebody else's fault.
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DesEtoiles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 01:26 AM
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18. are you still qualified to be an "expert" when you are ALWAYS WRONG?
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19jet54 Donating Member (737 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 01:54 AM
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19. I do not wish to sound like I am...
anti-semitic, but I think Mr. Perle puts his Jewish faith above his American country when it comes to U.S. policy.
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Hardrada Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 02:02 AM
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20. Try this guy and Henry Kissinger too while you're at it.
Why are we letting war criminals walk and live in luxury too? We need to be informal with these people and have popular tribunals decide their fate. Speedy, but fair, trials since we will probably never get them to the Hague. I would like them all to be in clammy castle dungeons with the keys thrown away.
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JoeySoCal Donating Member (173 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 02:44 AM
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21. What a rancid slug of a human being.
Jabba-the-Hut with make-up?
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 05:21 AM
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35. No kidding! And Welcome to DU!
Edited on Tue May-15-07 05:21 AM by calimary
My favorite is how they're now writing about "the president's IMPOTENCE"!!!

:party:

Isn't that the same so-called president who pranced around with his crotch stuffed, swaggering around the aircraft carrier in his flight suit declaring "Mission Accomplished" while all the chris matthewses and that-guy-whose-name-rhymes-with-VANITY swooned about his "package"? And he's now being described in print as IMPOTENT????

BWAAAAAAAA-haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa-haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!

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durtee librul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 06:50 AM
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45. Ms Pickles has been whining about
his impotence for years - after she gave birth to the spawn twins, they couldn't have any more? Thank goodness!
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 06:51 AM
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46. "And he's now being described in print as IMPOTENT????"
The turning of the royal worm!

Now America is being shafted with a dead weapon...a far cry from the Clenis of old.
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argyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 11:03 AM
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71. When Tweety calls him impotent we'll know he's done for .
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 12:13 AM
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89. It suggests a new way to look at that slogan about "the tip of the spear."
Edited on Wed May-16-07 12:14 AM by calimary
Maybe that's why bush is so interested in proving his macho to everyone else in the world with all of America's guns and ammo.
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 02:45 AM
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22. Oh, Mr. Perle, tell me that story I SO love to hear ...
... again and again - you know the one!

Remember when you said: "And a year from now, I'll be very surprised if there is not some grand square in Baghdad that is named after President Bush."*

Or that romantic evening back in 2003, when you dazzled me with: "There is no doubt that, with the exception of a very small number of people close to a vicious regime, the people of Iraq have been liberated ** and they understand that they've been liberated. And it is getting easier every day for Iraqis to express that sense of liberation."

Oh, Richard, take me away to that magic land, where we can dance until dawn in George W. Bush Grand Square, celebrating with those joyous Iraqis who know they've been liberated, and want to express that sense of liberation!***

* Some restrictions may apply. Names may be changed to protect the incompetent.

** Offer void where prohibited by occupying (i.e. liberating) forces.

*** "Expression" of liberation does not necessarily include actual liberation; please consult legal counsel for full disclosure re future self-governance, voting rights (aka The Purple Finger), access to your own oil resources, etc.
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misternormal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 02:45 AM
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23. Seems more to me...
... that this is no more than a case of another repuke rat, that is fleeing a sinking ship, and in doing so, attempting to at least shift blame for his own f**ked up thinking, or blame some sort of mind control.

Pathetic...
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 02:52 AM
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24. What a tool
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Dark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 03:24 AM
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25. I'll let Bill Maher handle the reply:
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 03:27 AM
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26. LOL...thanks for posting
I hadn't seen it :rofl:
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Dark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 04:55 AM
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I love Bill Maher. One of the few critics who wasn't afraid of Bush. n/t
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Dark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 04:55 AM
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32. I love Bill Maher. One of the few critics who wasn't afraid of Bush. n/t
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leQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 12:18 PM
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78. LOL ... thanks for the enlightenment, dark. (eom)
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 04:17 AM
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30. American foreign policy is being applied by an out-of-control State Department??? I'm Shocked!!!
...Shocked I tell you!

The State Department taking the lead on American foreign policy!?! What is the world coming too? :sarcasm:
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pnorman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 04:31 AM
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31. I had to Google it to get the date of that wacky quote!
Here it is: "And a year from now, Ill be very surprised if there is not some grand square in Baghdad that is named after President Bush. There is no doubt that, with the exception of a very small number of people close to a vicious regime, the people of Iraq have been liberated and they understand that theyve been liberated. And it is getting easier every day for Iraqis to express that sense of liberation." (Perle, 9/22/03)

http://thinkprogress.org/the-architects-where-are-they-... /

Thanks for that! I'll be using it with GUSTO in days to come!

pnorman
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 04:58 AM
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33. A State Dept. that's been gutted like a fish and headed by a Cold War has-been.
yay.

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Coes Donating Member (113 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 05:18 AM
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34. Donelly and Perle are both PNAC

and for those people, Bush isn't radical enough.

Even Rumsfeld wasn't radical enough.
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GCP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 06:01 AM
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38. That's it - time for the friendly men in the white coats
He has got to be certifiably insane.
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kurth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 06:03 AM
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39. Somebody ought to rein in Condoleezza Rice and her shopping sprees
Out of control, I tell ya!
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 06:15 AM
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40. "neoconservative thinker" He should be deported for that alone.
Go on back to Israel Richard and tell them we are not their proxy. If they want to bomb Iran they can do it themselves.
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susu369 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 06:17 AM
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41. Perle really is the turd that will not flush
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klyon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 06:29 AM
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42. He is trying to blame someone else for the failure of PNAC.
The whole PNAC plan for world dominance has washed out. He wanted us to invade all the counties in the middle east and control the oil while killing evil Muslims. It's a damn good thing Bush stopped listening. Bush is even trying diplomacy, a little, without admitting it.

KL
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 12:09 AM
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88. No kidding! We all have to remain vigilant about the PNACers.
Because once we've taken back the White House, they'll just go find some nice rocks and shadows to slither into and bide their time. They WILL be busy regrouping and lying in wait for the next opportunity to strike.

But the PNAC plan IS washing out, now, and it's time (at least in this phase) is about up. My main concern is how well these schmucks seem always to learn from their mistakes. They learned from nixon's mistakes how to cover up better, which we're seeing played out now.
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 06:30 AM
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43. can you say "sour grapes?"
bastard is petulant because bush does not have the intelligence/guts to just declare a police state and start nuking everyone with dark skin
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 07:06 AM
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47. I Haven't Been Appeased---Have You?
And we are the fiercest enemies BushCo has. The Democrats haven't been appeased at all.
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donkeyotay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 03:26 PM
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84. Nope. Not even slightly appeased. I loath and detest these treasonous ratbastards
and nothing short of their trials and incarcerations will appease me.

Perles of Wisdom

In USA 'Today, May 2, 2003 "Relax, Celebrate Victory"

This was a war worth fighting. It ended quickly with few civilian casualties and with little damage to Iraq's cities, towns or infrastructure. It ended without the Arab world rising up against us, as the war's critics feared, without the quagmire they predicted, without the heavy losses in house-to-house fighting they warned us to expect. It was conducted with immense skill and selfless courage by men and women who will remain until Iraqis are safe, and who will return home as heroes....

Iraqis are freer today and we are safer. Relax and enjoy it.

http://www.benadorassociates.com/article/801




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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 07:14 AM
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48. he acts and sounds like a jilted lover
who can`t bring himself to face the fact that he was just a fuck
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MaryRN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 07:25 AM
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50. How does that go?....
"Do not cast your 'perles' before swine????"
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 07:26 AM
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51. Wow, Perle's pissed that we're not being obnoxious ENOUGH?
:wow: "... beginning to appease rather than confront ..." :wtf:
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iamahaingttta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 07:27 AM
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52. Fuck you, Richard Perle!
Your neo-con fantasies got us into this goddamned mess, and your neo-con fantasies WON'T get us out of it! You slimy fucktard excuses for humanity think you have a handle on how the world works, but it's us normal humans who REALLY make the world go around. You think you're all kingmakers, but you are slime, pure slime! There are only a handful of people on this fine planet who I would ever say anything like this about, Richard Perle, but I hope you die a long, slow, painful death from some horribly debilitating disease, Richard Perle, one of those diseases that leaves your mind intact, but wastes your body and makes it impossible for you to communicate. You deserve the worst fate that a human can suffer, Richard Perle, and all of your goddamned blood money won't prevent your fucking god from judging you harshly. If I ever saw you on the street, Richard Perle, I would spit in your eye, a molecule of snot for each death that you are PERSONALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR. Try to jump ship now, you slimy rat bastard, we can see through your lies. Go to hell, asshole!!!!

(It was not my intention with this post to offend god, slime, people with debilitating diseases, rats, bastards or assholes! Sorry if any of the above took offense...)
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 07:36 AM
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53. "Our children will sing great songs about us years from now."
"No stages," he said. "This is total war. We are fighting a variety of enemies. There are lots of them out there. All this talk about first we are going to do Afghanistan, then we will do Iraq . . . this is entirely the wrong way to go about it. If we just Let our vision of the world go forth, and we embrace it entirely and we don't try to piece together clever diplomacy, but just wage a total war . . . our children will sing great songs about us years from now." ----Richard Perle to John Pilger, 2002.

http://www.mindfully.org/Reform/2002/World-Will-Know-Tr...




Perle Turns on Bush in Harsh Terms, May 15, 2007


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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 07:37 AM
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54. He's simply using child psychology to get the Chimp even deeper in this crap
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 07:45 AM
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56. Let's Send Perle, Feith & Wolfowitz to Negotiate Face-to-Face w/Iraqis in Baghdad...
There is something relevatory about standing in breach, watching the bombs go off all around you, and facing those who want you to leave yesterday.

They got us into this mess, now let them have the full experience of what they have wrought.
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mile18blister Donating Member (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 08:00 AM
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57. Perle might be right eventually about that Baghdad Square.
Saddam put a mural of Poppy on the ground so that people could walk on it - a supreme insult in the Arab world. It wouldn't surprise me if someday the Iraqis are stomping on Chimpy's mug in Baghdad's new "Death to Bu$h" Square.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 08:15 AM
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59. Fuck You Dick Perle. You facist pig. Your opinion means nothing to no one.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 08:21 AM
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61. and in March and April of 1945 many German Officers started to ..
.... turn on Hitler. Iraq was your idea Perle.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 09:49 AM
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70. brings me to that saying we are bound to repeat history.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 08:22 AM
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62. Perle, we haven't forgotten how you didn't mind sucking bushitler's ass.
Maybe the statute will be of both of you. A real puking post.
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 08:39 AM
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63. 'Mr. Perle said the current policy toward Iraq has no more than nine months to run:'
Mr. Perle said the current policy toward Iraq has no more than nine months to run: It either will have achieved success by then or will have to be abandoned. "That is why I find it strange that the Democrats should take short-term political advantage. They have only to wait," he said.


Why yes, let's just sit on our hands and wait while, what, another 1000 of our children die? Another 10,000 Iraqis die? Another million Iraqis flee their own country?

Richard Perle should have been charged with treason and dealt with way back in the '70's when he was caught giving classified information to Israel. These NeoCons want to destroy America in the name of Israel.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 08:43 AM
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64. That friggin' well-known liar and thief Conrad Black even thinks
Perles a douche bag...

<snip>

And while the report documents how Black spent company cash on himself, he resented it when Perle did the same. The report, again: Black "told Atkinson in an e-mail dated that he was 'well aware of what a trimmer and a sharper Richard is at times.' " Black wrote about Trireme. "As I suspected, there is a good deal of nest-feathering being conducted by Richard which I don't object to other than that there was some attempt to disguise it behind a good deal of dissembling and obfuscation." (In Black's book, it was OK to feather your nest but not OK to lie about it.)

Black admiredin a grudging wayhow Perle worked on him. Black explained in a Jan. 7, 2003, e-mail to a colleague: "I have been exposed to Richard's full repertoire of histrionics, cajolery, and utilization of fine print. He hasn't been disingenuous exactly, but I understand how he finessed the Russians out of deployed missiles in exchange for non-eventual-deployment of half the number of missiles of unproven design." After discussing compensation with Perle, he wrote: "My feeling is that we are finally dealing with Richard Perle of Reykjavik and the Zero Option, who realizes that mental agility must be applied to bringing us into the coalition and not straight-arming us like a bunch of NATO-ninny psuedo-allies."

http://www.slate.com/id/2106175 /

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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 08:44 AM
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65. This is the sound of a neutered neo-con...
Edited on Tue May-15-07 08:44 AM by Javaman
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 09:33 AM
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66. My, my....people sure don't appreciate a good puppet anymore. From the article:
"...The president's failure to get his own way stems from his general inexperience in foreign affairs and his ignorance of the way Washington works, Mr. Perle suggested. "He came ill-equipped for the job and has failed to master it," he said"

Isn't that what the neocons wanted? Someone that could be controlled?

Dick, Dick, Dick. Tut, tut. You are a fool and stupider than Little Boots.
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Massachusetts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 09:48 AM
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69. The rats begin to feed on one another.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 11:07 AM
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72. I just happened upon his photo with Goebbels yesterday


one of my favorites. Separated at birth indeed.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 11:19 AM
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75. ROFL. That's great. I saved it. nt
Edited on Tue May-15-07 11:19 AM by bemildred
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 11:15 AM
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74. Perle ought to be in prison
Along with Bush. They can argue it out, there.
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leftwingnut Donating Member (843 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 11:21 AM
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76. not surprised...the guy's a rat.
once a rat...always a rat.
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 11:50 AM
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77. The PNAC-Team!
Edited on Tue May-15-07 11:52 AM by Gregorian
Edit- it's way more than just four.


The PNAC-Team: Four A gang of Neocon chickenhawks, committing crimes they thought they'd never be framed for, exhaust an entire country's resourses and military might while killing innocents around the world.


Hm, I'm still working on it. But it has a certain twist about it.


Now Richard, I think Condi's not going to like what you say about her. He's bound to give you that scrunched up Condi-evil face.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 12:37 PM
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79. For this quote alone the post is worthy of a rec
"Although Mr. Perle said he no longer has access to the president, he said his conversations with those close to the White House led him to a pessimistic view of how foreign policy is currently conducted, with a profound disconnect between President Bush's wishes and how the administration carries out policies in his name."

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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 01:01 PM
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80. Sounds like he's upset he's no longer part of inner circle.
Awwwwww. Poor Ricky Ricky Ricky.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 01:13 PM
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81. I guess he's ticked that America hasn't bombed Iran yet
we don't have the troops

if Israel wants to bomb them they will have to do it on their own
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 02:01 PM
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82. He calls that foreign policy?
Wrong again, Mr. Perle. It is the lack thereof.
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 03:05 PM
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83. That is the best news on Iran
I have heard yet, considering the source.
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Jim Lane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 08:00 PM
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86. Thanks for calling this to our attention!
I've added it to the collection of Perle quotations on Wikiquote. His prediction about the square in Baghdad is there, too.

They would like to be able to say these things and then unsay them when convenient. But they can't. As long as we're diligent about keeping this information readily accessible to the public, the neocons' efforts to rewrite history will fail.
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ShockediSay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 12:15 AM
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90. "now firmly back in the hands of the Department of State"
yeah, Dept of State, unbelievers of the

'Israel can do no wrong' doctrine

And listen who's criticizing,
Perl!

Connect the dots for yourselves
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aaronbees Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-16-07 01:45 AM
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91. Rats eating each other now....
Something grimly satisfying about that.
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