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T_i_B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-28-07 03:07 AM
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US schools pull plug on iPod exam cheats
Source: Daily Telegraph

Schools across America are targeting iPods and other digital media players as the latest way in which pupils are cheating in exams.

The increasingly tiny devices can be hidden under clothing, with just an earbud and a wire snaking behind the ear and into a shirt collar to give them away, said officials.

Some students are using iPod-compatible voice recorders to tape exam answers in advance, hide them in the machine's "lyrics" text files, and then secretly play them back.

A spokesman for the National Association of Secondary School Principals said it was becoming a "national trend" for schools to ban digital media players because of the cheating risk.

Read more: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/04/28/wipod28.xml
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-28-07 03:16 AM
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1. So iPods are banned from schools completely?
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flobee1 Donating Member (515 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-28-07 05:55 AM
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2. what about those that record lectures to study with
something I did on a regular basis in college

had the ipod been around then, I would have used it as a recording device
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-28-07 06:40 AM
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3. Did they let you have your recording device during an exam?
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Mend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-28-07 08:11 AM
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4. do you count writing it on the inside of your socks?
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-28-07 08:14 AM
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5. You'd never get away with that in my class!
LOL
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Tuttle Donating Member (919 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-28-07 01:53 PM
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10. Does the iPod voice recording?
I'm so out of it: I thought it was a ROM type device, though I know some other similar devices allow recording...

Tut-tut
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-28-07 02:38 PM
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12. The iPod itself does not have a recording function built in.
However, there are many accessories that allow you to record audio using your iPod. It's not really a ROM device. Depending on the model, it may have a very large hard disk, equivalent to what you might find in a normal desktop computer.
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Tuttle Donating Member (919 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-29-07 08:05 AM
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15. Ultimately though it IS read-only
I've read up on it a bit and while you could record into another device, then save those files and load them into iTunes on a laptop or desktop computer and then transfer them to your iPod: it seems kinda clunky... I guess the functionality of having voice recording isn't part of style. To me, it's more of a no-brainer: I would want that capability.

Tut-tut
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-29-07 07:31 PM
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16. I'm sorry, but you're wrong. There are voice recording accessories...
I'm sorry, but you're wrong. There are voice recording
accessories available for the iPod.

Tesha
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 04:52 AM
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17. Actually, recording a lecture without written permission is illegal
I took a pedagogy course in which we had to do classroom observations, and one of the tidbits I discovered is that if you intend on recording or taking photos inside the classroom, you needed the lecturer to sign a release.
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Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-28-07 01:09 PM
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9. It doesn't say that...
...doesn't even suggest that.

Please wait for the actual outrage to get outraged.

Hypertension isn't all it's cracked up to be.
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-28-07 08:49 AM
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6. Unfortunately there are some kids who stay up at night thinking
of new ways to cheat. Between on-line term paper mills, i-pods, cell phones with text messaging and internet access, the blackberry, etc.... the old standby of writing the answers on one's palm is hopelessly outdated it seems.

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Chico Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-28-07 08:49 AM
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7. Run the wire up your sleeve and rest on your hand..
Listen to a pre-recording of your answers.. how clever. What would prevent someone from wirelessly transmitting to a headphone as small as a button sewed onto your shirt sleeve? Or even attached next to your ear? The slightest vibrations will be picked up by the ears if done in the right way.

Will they ban long sleeve shirts next?
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-28-07 09:18 AM
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8. Cheney wouldn't bother to transmit the answers to the lump between student's..
shoulders. He couldn't get anything out of it.
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Chico Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-28-07 06:09 PM
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13. I'm glad you said shoulders..
Lots of ways to interpret that message =)
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fshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-28-07 02:18 PM
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11. In a world where cheating is the rule
rather than the exception, regardless of the level considered, why would our children do differently?
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Dumak Donating Member (397 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-29-07 01:43 AM
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14. It's hard to detect all cheaters
You can have a camera as a shirt button to transmit the exam to a friend outside the room. And, if you remember, the shrub had a wireless receiver 'hump' on his back during his debates. I guess you'd have to put a grounded metal box around the students to prevent this sort of cheating.
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Joe Bacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 06:36 AM
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18. Why not use an iPod for an iTest?
After all, Neil Bush is making a mint from all these tests. You think that crook cares if kids cheat. You bet he does, he wants them to cheat just like he does!
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