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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 10:16 PM
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Gore campaign team assembles in secret
Source: Telegraph.co.uk

Friends of Al Gore have secretly started assembling a campaign team in preparation for the former American vice-president to make a fresh bid for the White House.

Two members of Mr Gore's staff from his unsuccessful attempt in 2000 say they have been approached to see if they would be available to work with him again.

Mr Gore, President Bill Clinton's deputy, has said he wants to concentrate on publicising the need to combat climate change, a case made in his film, An Inconvenient Truth, which won him an Oscar this year.

But, aware that he may step into the wide open race for the White House, former strategists are sounding out a shadow team that could run his campaign at short notice. In approaching former campaign staff, including political strategists and communications officials, they are making clear they are not acting on formal instructions from Mr Gore, 59, but have not been asked to stop.



Read more: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/20...
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 10:17 PM
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1. How secret? Have they informed Al Gore?
"Hey, all this secrecy is nice and quiet, but at some point, one of us is going to have to let him know..."
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Bjornsdotter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 10:29 PM
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7. Now that's funny!

:rofl:
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 10:59 PM
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13. Right. Not much of a secret anymore, that is if there is any truth in it at all. n/t
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 02:28 AM
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56. Made me spew!!!
That was funny!
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NastyDiaper Donating Member (806 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 10:24 AM
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103. The most important question happens to be the punchline. :)
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 10:56 PM
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220. Run, Pres. Gore, Run!
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 10:31 PM
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233. Pfft!!!
:spray: :rofl:
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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 10:18 PM
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2. please
please
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More Than A Feeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 10:21 PM
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3. Now this is interesting.
Edited on Sat Apr-21-07 10:22 PM by Heaven and Earth
On the other hand, Ezra Klein's analysis is still persuasive. He noted that by staying out, Gore can have all the candidates paying homage to his environmental position. As soon as he steps into the race, they have to undermine that strength if they can, and that means moving to the right on the environment, which Gore probably does not want.

That analysis can be reconciled with these new facts, however. If Gore stepped in at the very end of the pre-primary process, there wouldn't be long enough for the other candidates to dance around, not without taking hits for shifting themselves.
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Ferret Annica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 10:22 PM
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4. Then I hope he loses 15 pounds or so this summer.
This makes sense as Hil has too many negatives, she's not going to get the nomination.
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Patchuli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 10:35 PM
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8. Heard a rumor from Christine Kraft
of Talk City, 1240, left wing Sacramento station that Gore was on a crash diet program to lose about 40 pounds. If he has already started, he will be buff by fall when he would have to declare. Let's hope so!!
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 12:31 AM
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40. I'd heard that one, too.
And I'm also glad to hear Christine Kraft is still working. She's terrific! Got horrendously hosed in an earlier TV job in Kansas City, I think it was, where she was fired because they said she was "too old, too ugly, and not deferential to men." She is a GREAT gal and she was incredibly dignified through that entire humiliating mess. Good GOD she was treated badly. And frankly, she's quite attractive, physically-speaking.

As for the rumors about Gore and a secret campaign staff being put together just in case - all I have to say about that is...

"ME! ME!!! OVER HERE!!!! ME!!!!!! PICK ME!!!!!!!"
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 02:27 PM
Response to Reply #40
156. As for the rumors about Gore and a secret campaign staff being put together just in case -
all I have to say about that is...

"ME! ME!!! OVER HERE!!!! ME!!!!!! PICK ME!!!!!!!"
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 05:05 PM
Response to Reply #156
188. Holy cow, man! You can say THAT again!
:hi:


:rofl:


:toast:
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Hieronymus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 05:21 AM
Response to Reply #8
66. I'll vote for Gore, fat or thin.
It's a shame that Americans are so picky about cosmetics. :eyes:
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iamjoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 07:38 AM
Response to Reply #66
77. Picky About Looks
But then we criticize candidates who get spa treatments and expensive haircuts.

Geesh!
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 08:56 AM
Response to Reply #66
86. I don't care what he weighs. I'd vote for him. But don't know why he'd do this.
He's on top o'the world. Why would he subject himself to his every statement and movement being torn apart? Why would he go on the road and give speech after speech under stressful conditions? Spend hours on the phone asking for money?

I'd vote for him. But if I were him, I wouldn't do it. He's got the world by the tail as it is. But then, I'm not a politician and have never wanted to be Prez. Carville says it's like having sex...if you run once, you'll wanna do it again.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 10:12 AM
Response to Reply #86
99. "Carville says it's like having sex...if you run once, you'll wanna do it again."
Carville runs while having sex?

Well, actually that would fit a couple of theories of mine.
.
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Blue Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 11:40 AM
Response to Reply #99
116. Yeesh! I could live without the imagery of Carville having sex...
Especially when you factor in who he's married to.
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Demoiselle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 10:15 PM
Response to Reply #99
214. Oh laugh out loud!! Very funny indeed.
The mental picture is wonderful. And frightening.
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-30-07 10:39 PM
Response to Reply #99
234. I would too if I was married to a Republican.
I would also ask myself why I married her, as in "What drug did I take to make me do that?"
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 01:44 PM
Response to Reply #86
134. Because we need him.
I'm not happy with the current roster.

Gore can WIN against anything the pukes can put up.

This time, he must speak his mind, and talk frankly
about an eco-friendly economy.

The earth is ready, and so is the industrialized
north.
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 02:04 PM
Response to Reply #134
140. And so am I!
:hi:

As impressed as I was with Edwards' speech at the JeffJack dinner last night, I'm still holding out for Gore. Edwards has moved up a notch in my book -- I'm torn between Richardson and him if Gore doesn't run. I would love a Gore/Edwards ticket with Richardson as Secretary of State. I didn't think Edwards would take the second spot on the ticket again, but after talking to some people at the dinner last night, I don't think it's out of the question.

I also spoke to people who are supporting Edwards now, but who will jump ship in a heartbeat if Gore announces.

Run, Al, Run.
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 06:00 PM
Response to Reply #140
193. I'm one of them critters.
I'm behind Edwards for now, but if Gore steps in, I'll be contributing the max to Big Al.
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kimmerspixelated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 04:33 PM
Response to Reply #86
183. Good points,
until you mentioned Carville. The man is not our friend, and is a scumbag.
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 11:56 PM
Response to Reply #183
223. Well, he's a friend of Gore's, apparently. So he at least knows something ...
about Gore's personality and political aspirations.

Besides, I like Carville. He's from my home state. He's not perfect, and I'm suspicious of him being married to whatshername. But he does know a thing or two about politics.

It was just a joke by Carville, but he meant it. And it was funny. Come on. Lighten up.
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Patchuli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 02:36 PM
Response to Reply #66
160. Oh me too!
And I've thought he was a good looking man since the first time I saw him. It was so nice to have young men who ran around in shorts in office instead of the pompous old farts we'd had in the pubs forever it seemed before that!
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 10:35 PM
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9. More like thirty, at least. But he can do that. Just skip dessert. NT
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tinrobot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 01:15 AM
Response to Reply #9
51. He could also run to lose weight...
(pun intended)
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 08:58 AM
Response to Reply #9
88. S'easy for big men to lose weight. All they have to do...
is cut out a bit of the bad stuff, and they drop 40 pounds in a flash.

Sigh...if only it were that easy for middle aged women. Tipper would get slaughtered in the press for having gained weight, more than Al will. And she would have a much harder time losing it.

Frankly, I don't care what they weigh. I find it perplexing that anyone is concerned about it...but I guess in politics, appearance counts.

As long as they're healthy, I don't see a problem. It's not like he has, say, lymphoma! Or like Romney's wife, who has MS. Health is waht matters, IMO.
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jmondine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 02:29 AM
Response to Reply #4
57. And gets a haircut
Or maybe not.
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NoodleyAppendage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 06:11 AM
Response to Reply #4
68. Yes, of course. Because you know overweight people CAN'T be President. WTF?
Please show me evidence that leadership skills and weight are inversely related. Otherwise, your suggestion belies the STUPIDITY of Americans, who will only vote for a candidate if he/she looks attractive. This is EXACTLY why we continue to end up with disasters like Chimp.

J
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ms liberty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 07:11 AM
Response to Reply #68
74. Yea, that Teddy Roosevelt was another one of those overweight rich environmental populists too.
Edited on Sun Apr-22-07 07:14 AM by ms liberty
What a loser he turned out to be!

~attach sarcasm smilie here if needed~
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 01:17 PM
Response to Reply #74
129. Yer fergettin' ole Tubby Taft! And he made it to the Supremes, too! NT
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AZ Criminal JD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 07:31 PM
Response to Reply #129
203. The age of TV has changed everything
Since the age of TV (since WW II) we have not had a noticeably overweight president. Taft and T. Roosevelt would not make it today (or F.D. Roosevelt either). Johnson was somewhat overweight but he inherited the job.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 08:02 AM
Response to Reply #203
225. Well, ole Bill was a little beefy. If you go back in time, though, each
president, save one or two, since WWII, was fairly athletic. Truman used to walk every day, and count each step -- like marching. He didn't stroll, he quick-timed. Ike was military, loved to golf (and walk the course), naturally slim, so no surprise there. JFK was busy projecting "youthful vigor" even though he was sick as a dog. And there were no shortage of the newfangled "diet pills" available to he and Jackie to maintain that "look."

LBJ had suffered a heart attack well before he became President, while he was in the Senate leadership, in fact, and the doctors insisted he stop smoking and lose weight. LBJ being LBJ, he lost MORE weight (and napped more, and ate even "healthier" and exercised more) than the doctors asked of him. LBJ was actually quite slim--he just had a BIG face, BIG hands, BIG feet (big everything, so they say--he was aptly surnamed, is the rumor) and as a consequence, he looked, well, BIG. In these pics (the third one, especially, taken at his ranch by the pool), you can see that he really wasn't fat or even 'thick'--it's just his head, height and hands that make him seem so:





After he left the office, though, he actually went BACK to smoking and eating shit, and died not long after. It was almost as though he was committing suicide slowly.

Nixon and Carter were both former Navy men. If any of the two would be fat, I'd figure Carter would be, because the chow on subs is so good--but he was lucky got his mother's genes. Reagan was an exercise freak--he swam, he rode, he chopped wood for hours--he wasn't going to let himself go. Poppy was naturally thin, and he liked the odd game of tennis. And then came Donut Bill, or Big Mac Bill, or Double Fries Bill. The reason he didn't look too terrible on TV? Really GOOD suits. Well cut clothing. Plus, if you aren't short, you can carry a bit more weight. In his older years, he IS slim, but that was the heart business that made that happen.
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iamjoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 07:47 AM
Response to Reply #68
78. It's True
Not that weight and leadership skills are in anyway related, but that many Americans believe it to be so.

There is a prejudice in this country against the overweight or obese. They are *perceived* as lazy and undisciplined. Now that's generally not true, our weight and body shape is largely determined by genetics (not that diet and exercise don't play a role). But, American people have that perception. It comes through in the way the obsese are often treated in our society.

I wouldn't quite call it the STUPIDITY of Americans, it's just a prejudice.
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guidod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 01:27 PM
Response to Reply #78
130. While at the same time
The vast majority of Americans are over weight or obese. Thick with hypocrisy
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 10:50 AM
Response to Reply #68
108. Wasn't it Taft that weighed about 300 pounds? They had to get a
special bathtub for him.
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 02:06 PM
Response to Reply #68
141. I still don't understand how anyone can think the Chimp is attractive
Now John Edwards is another story -- HE's attractive and way easier on the eyes than anyone else in the field right now. Not that that would sway me as to who to vote for, but I can tell you right now there will be women who will vote for him JUST because he'd handsome.
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Ferret Annica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 06:48 PM
Response to Reply #68
200. I was speaking cynically
based on years of experience with Righties and FReeps concerning there constant and unnecessary preoccupation with weight, age and condition as fair game items to attack.

An example of this is the ugly way they hold Helen Thomas' age against her with all sorts of "she's ugly" remarks.

Don't flick yer bic, you need not flam me merely because I know intimately about the nature of much Right wing foolishness and maliciousness.
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kimmerspixelated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 04:31 PM
Response to Reply #4
182. I think the extra weight actually might endear him to many.
On the other hand, I would imagine the grueling campaign trail would make a person burn all kinds of calories.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 10:25 PM
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5. I really hope it's true.
It's his time.
Heck - even his old boss sounded like he thought so.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 10:35 PM
Response to Reply #5
10. With all due respect, and i love Al, but this is *not* his time.
His time was in 2000. Now is the time for a new generation of Democratic leadership.

Onward...
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 10:45 PM
Response to Reply #10
11. I respectfully disagree.
Now is the time for experience.

Obama has plenty of time. He's young. He's articulate(lol).

I do like Obama.
Actually I'm a Biden supporter (yes I just made fun of Biden) but
if Gore runs, I would be very open to hear what he has to say on all issues, not just the environment.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 11:41 AM
Response to Reply #11
117. I think if Gore came out with a formulation similar to Biden's plan for Iraq it would be a big
winner for him (and for everybody - Dems, US, Iraq).

Gore could do it because we don't know his plan yet and Biden's unified but decentralized Iraq with Kurds, Shiites and Sunnis essentially controlling their own regions and a central government in charge of the most important national responsibilities seems smart. It could certainly vary somewhat around the edges but still be a federal plan.
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The Count Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 11:06 PM
Response to Reply #10
15. Oh, yeah, them were the dinosaurs days....
Edited on Sat Apr-21-07 11:07 PM by The Count
I like Obama, and would vote for him from the current crop - but I want someone with more ...credentials.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 11:42 PM
Response to Reply #10
29. Um, that's for the voters to decide. Meanwhile, it'd be nice if the "new generation" could
get specific on some things --- like the environment.

Oh, and touting "clean coal" as a solution to global warming is like touting vitamin fortified crack as a solution to cocaine addiction.
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 02:05 AM
Response to Reply #29
54. Great!!! I just stuck that bumper sticker on my truck yesterday!
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 03:41 AM
Response to Reply #29
63. and these new candidates
running for president not being afraid to stand up for the environment, the (working) poor, healthcare, ending the invasion within 12 months, better equality for GLBT would be nice too, I think Gore would do that... As of right now, Edwards is the best for me...

www.cafepress.com/warisprofitable <<-- check it out, top '08 stuff
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 12:41 AM
Response to Reply #10
42. Obama has NO experience
He should remain a senator for another 12 years or so, then run for VP or something.

But right now, NO senator since Kennedy has won the election. Too many negatives and have to answer for their votes.

Hawkeye-X
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Herman74 Donating Member (429 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 08:25 AM
Response to Reply #42
80. And when JFK won, he didn't even get half the vote! n/t
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jakem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 09:12 AM
Response to Reply #42
89. SO he should stay a senator and become unelectable later?!


He can be elected now. And has ample experience.
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 11:15 AM
Response to Reply #89
226. And not bother to finish the rest of his term?
Brilliant deduction.

I believe Obama was elected in 2004.

He wouldn't even finish out his first term.

Think Hillary - they wanted her to run in 2004 too.

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ryanmuegge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 11:01 AM
Response to Reply #42
110. So he should compile 16 years worth of attack-ad worthy votes?
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ryanmuegge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 11:13 AM
Response to Reply #42
112. Bush had NO government experience; governor of Texas does NOT count.
Any retard (hey, the Clown Prince was even able to do it) can do that job. Governors have no power in that state; no responsibilities. That is, of course, unless you consider reading books to elementary school kids or smiling for pictures at a rodeo vital policymaking work.

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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 12:50 AM
Response to Reply #10
45. What do you consider Obamas strongest issue? What would his leadership
accomplish in terms of policy?

I have been asking supporters of both Hillary and Obama this question for a while now, but none has responded. In fact, some people apparently think I'm an asshole to even be asking.

But my problem is this. I've visited Obama's website and looked under issues, and I can't for the life of me find anything specific or unique in terms of the many issues facing this nation. Same for Hillary.

So I'm asking you; What issue is most important to you, and in what way does Obama say he will deal with this issue that appeals to you?

(To reciprocate before the fact) I like Gore because he is at the forefront of many environmental issues (obviously Co2/global warming) but he also endorses single payer health insurence, which is a solution to a major issue that's near and dear to my heart.

So what about Obama. Which of his issues are close to your heart and why is he better qualified, or ahead of the curve on those issues?
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 02:30 AM
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58. The hell it isn't
This is his time. He is the one who can lead us all. Don't worry, Obama can be VP in my happy little world.
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 02:10 PM
Response to Reply #58
143. It sure is, tavalon
Sometimes I think it was predestined that he lose in 2000 so he could run now, when we need him even more. Of course, if he had won in 2000, things would be completely different now, so who's to say. Hard to second guess history.

:hi:
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 06:08 AM
Response to Reply #10
67. We need the most intelligent, seasoned, experienced candidate...
possible to clean up the fetid morass that's being left behind by the Bush administration. Obama is a great guy and is the future of the Democratic Party. BUT, with the mess Bush has created we need someone who can hit the ground running, who knows the machinations of the Federal Government and won't have to go through a broad learning curve in order to get things accomplished. Al Gore is that person.

I LOVE Obama, but I don't feel he's ready yet. There's way too much at stake. After 8 years of President Gore's leadership THEN I believe the country, and Obama, will be ready for HIS 8 years of leadership. ;) We're looking at a Democratic President for the next 16 years that way. I like it. :applause:


Al Gore is THE ONLY person intelligent enough, experienced enough and not beholding to corporate overlords to be our next President. I am SO FREAKING HAPPY, IF this is true, that I could plotz right now.

RE-ELECT PRESIDENT GORE 2008! :woohoo: :party: :toast: :headbang: :yourock: :applause: :woohoo:
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NastyDiaper Donating Member (806 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 10:10 AM
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98. OUR time was 2000 and WE let GORE down!
I <3 Obama. He is the future. Just not the immediate future.

I predict that if Gore runs he will promise a single term.

Think about that. Obama can go 8 years after that!
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thekuch Donating Member (74 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 03:41 PM
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173. Why would you........
Edited on Sun Apr-22-07 03:42 PM by thekuch
Why would you vote for someone who funds war? Obama has promised to keep funding this war.
Our troops will NOT be coming home until Congress cuts funding to this war. In fact, since the inception of the War Powers Act, that's the ONLY WAY our troops have come home in the past.

To fund war is to perpetuate war.
To defund a war is to end a war.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9REGbr0nfI

http://www.corvusworld.com/omama.wmv
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Jillian Donating Member (577 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 10:28 PM
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6. Sounds like he is thinking about it.
Which would be great.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 02:24 AM
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55. welcome to DU Jillian!!
:hi:
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The Count Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 10:59 PM
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12. Come on, Al! We need a good man! Desperately!
The source is a tabloid , but I can dream, can't I?
Having a candidate that actually walks the walk for a change?
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badgervan Donating Member (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 11:01 PM
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14. Hope Gore Runs
Just keep Donna Brazille occupied somewhere else. CNN seems to be her preference, which is fine with me.
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 06:15 AM
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69. Got that right....
Donna is a great person but PLEASE keep her away from Gore's campaign. I think Clark would make a good running mate. He'd ease the fears of those Americans in a constant state of fear (that the Bushistas have so lovingly cultivated). Hell, ANYONE but Lieberman. I wouldn't even appear on the same stage as Holy Joe if I were Al but it might be politically advantageous to do so. :shrug: All bridges to be crosses AFTER Gore officially throws his hat into the ring. GO AL! :woohoo:
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 08:35 AM
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82. Gore/Lamont??!!! Wouldn't that be a hoot!
Actually, I'm looking at an Edwards/Obama ticket right now. I don't think Gore will run.
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 11:20 PM
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16. Run Al Run. n/t
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 11:25 PM
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17. nooo!!!!! not that team!!
run, al run, but not with the idiots that screwed it up the last time!
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CountDmoney Donating Member (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 11:28 PM
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20. He will run
and he will win the nomination and the presidency easily. I've been saying for a couple of years that he's the only man who can save us. All of us. The country, the world, humanity! Run Al run!
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 12:04 AM
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36. i swear. i will put my kids in foster care.
i also say- run al run. i'm right there, man. i do not recall, in my lifetime, such a demand for a candidate to run. he is the only one big enough for the job ahead.
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Rydz777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 11:26 PM
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18. Won once and will win again
Just imagine all the trouble we would have been spared if he had taken office when he won the first time.
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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 11:27 PM
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19. Carvelle and B. Clinton have been setting up rumors like this
They want to split the vote between Edwards and Obama so Hillary will get the nomination. chances are the reporter for the Telegraph got some spin. Gore told one of his long time donors to go ahead and donate to someone else as he is not running.
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 11:31 PM
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21. Wouldn't surprise me if Carville was doing dirty tricks...
"Gore told one of his long time donors to go ahead and donate to someone else as he is not running."

Do you have a link or source for this info? Of course, I am hoping it too is just a rumor.
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jaysunb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 12:07 AM
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37. I'm a supporter of Gore and
pray he'll run, but I was within two feet of a conversation in which he told a big money donor/raiser " not to hold back with giving to others." He was very relaxed and appeared very sincere....
That was six months ago, and I hope he changes his mind, but that moment is seared in my mind.
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 12:34 AM
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41. .
:(

Or how about this...maybe he has enough money to run without his donor friend's donation! :7
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 12:56 AM
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46. He does, actually.
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 01:02 AM
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47. That's the answer I wanted to read! Thanks! n/t
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 01:22 AM
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52. His TV channel is worth about a billion. And if he ran, he'd be able to
secure a lot of other donar money fast.

He'd unite about 80% of the Democratic party. We'd see people leaving other campaigns to join his.

He has actual issues to run on, and he supports single payer health insurance.
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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 08:56 AM
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87. Don't ask me my sources but....
I am very close to the Kucinich Campaign and Dennis would throw his support behind Al Gore should he decide to run.

Bet the ranch.
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Blue Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 11:50 AM
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118. He'd have enough money in a heart beat....
half of Hollywood was ready to hand over checks to him at the Oscars, and that's not counting the millions of us who are ready to give heartily to him through the internets. All he has to do is say the word.
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NastyDiaper Donating Member (806 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 10:45 AM
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107. I would be dissapointed if he said anything else.
Edited on Sun Apr-22-07 10:46 AM by NastyDiaper
Thanks for the story.
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 06:39 AM
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71. As I recall that report, someone called Gore's office. . .
Someone who had donated to Gore's earlier campaign was thinking about donating to another candidate and contacted Gore's office to ask if Gore was running(as in present tense). They were told to go ahead and contribute to their other candidate. HOwever, what other answer could Gore's office give until Gore officially declares he is running? It's like trying to just be a little bit pregnant. If the office had given any other response, the news coverage would immediately announce he had decided to run, and that would not fit with whatever timetable Gore is following - IF he has even decided yet.

I am a participant in a monthly political poll (YouGov America Survey). A recurring question is to respond to a list of all possible Dem and GOP candidates as to whether you think of them positively, negatively or neutrally. Then you are asked to select the one candidate you would choose to .vote for. The earliest survey (late 2006) did not include Gore's name. That survey also provided space for some comment, wherein I stated my choice was Al Gore. Since then,his name has been added to the list, and remains the one I choose.
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 02:14 PM
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145. It's true, but he's playing it close to the vest and if he had told her
not to donate to Obama, he would have tipped his hand. This was not a sign that he is not running. The only sign will be when he comes out and says "I'm absolutely not running. Stop all of the draft activities -- they will not make me change my mind."

In 2004, he asked the draft movement to stop. He has done no such thing this time and he knows there are lots of us out there working hard to draft him.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 11:36 PM
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25. If Gore wanted to end speculation, he could. He did it in 2004.
Edited on Sat Apr-21-07 11:37 PM by impeachdubya
All he would have to say is "I am not running" --- NOT "I am not planning on running", which is all he has said on the matter so far.

Bottom line, this early in the game, NO ONE is "automatically entitled" to people's support- not Hillary, and not Edwards or Obama, either. This "You have to get on MY bandwagon now, because it's the only train in town" noise is tiresome, no matter who it's coming from.
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 11:40 PM
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27. I agree.
He hasn't stifled the rumors has he? He is busy through this concert thing in July. A little vacation in August with the family and then 'bam', announce in mid September just in time to make some debates.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 11:46 PM
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30. Yep. Why give the media machine additional time to chew him up?
Edited on Sat Apr-21-07 11:46 PM by impeachdubya
It makes sense, it really does. People are tired of two year long presidential campaigns, just like they're tired of seeing Christmas displays put up the week before Halloween.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 11:34 PM
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22. Boy, I REALLY hope he runs. It makes a lot of sense.
And he's playing it perfectly. No need to jump in too early.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 11:34 PM
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23. This is old news
But of course it will get more attention than his real work on the climate crisis which is never recommended here. Rumors about him always seem to get more attention than what he is doing. And of course to put this crap out just when the Live Earth concert is being planned doesn't help in the perception people will have of his motives for this work. If I didn't know any bettter I would think some are perpetuating these rumors to deliberately make his endeavors on this look insincere and take the focus off of them.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 11:38 PM
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26. Maybe the reason people keep bringing it up is because he's CLEARLY the right person for the job.
Edited on Sat Apr-21-07 11:39 PM by impeachdubya
And maybe the fact that he consistently wins every poll that includes his name here ought to give folks some pause before ascribing nefarious anti-environmental motives to his many supporters.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 11:47 PM
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31. And maybe some shouldn't be so defensive
And frankly, polls mean nothing to me, and I was referring to whoever was behind this crap surfacing in the article printed in the OP that does divert from the work he is doing now.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 11:53 PM
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34. We keep hearing that.
But seems to me he's accomplishing a hell of alot, and he has lost zero respect for his efforts simply because people still keep coming to the obvious conclusion that he would make a damn fine president.

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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 08:42 AM
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84.  What Bull
If people on this board for the most part respected his efforts now they would recommend and kick them based on the substance, discuss them in context, and not refer to Live Earth as one already in this thread did as "that concert thing" and stating how much CURRENT is worth as if he would simply liquidate it all just to be this traitorous media's whipping boy as if the ideals behind them mean nothing. Yeah, I'm sure he is just salivating at that prospect with all he is achieving now which is why the media is for the most part barred from his appearances for that very reason...because of speculative off the topic BS like this OP.

Don't try blowing smoke up my ass because I see right through many on these blogs who simply don't like anyone else so they want Al to "save them." The same people who have cared so much for the Presidency of this country that they have allowed Bush to totally ruin the office and trample this constitution. Would that threads about that and a REAL effort on the part of the American people to do the moral and right hting regarding kicking his ass out get just as much fervor as these "rumor" threads.

Perhaps then I might believe that this isn't all just poltical hype and BS by people looking for some good entertainment, because that is ALL politcal campaigns are in this country and I do NOT see Mr. Gore stooping to that level. It is a totally lame excuse to want him to enter this toxic fray again especially when he damn well is accomplishing more for this entire world out here than he ever would locked into that BS political world that is responsible for what we are experiencing now.

I really think some believe he is just a superfluous revenge filled prevaricating political hack who is overweight and has some sort of DUTY to run no matter what he may really wish to now do and must parse his sentences in a way that is suitable to their desires, and I find it to be arrogant. Oh, and to those who keep stating he needs to lose weight: It's none of your business and thanks for making his point. And yes, I have known for many years what a fine President he would make in a country that would actually APPRECIATE that as he is already mine. However, HIS wishes are not being respected regarding this, and on that score I will make my opinions known because I support him.
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NastyDiaper Donating Member (806 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 11:58 AM
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120. Speaking of toxin,
Edited on Sun Apr-22-07 12:02 PM by NastyDiaper
is it possible to step forward and encourage a Gore08 candidacy without being accused of being misguided in my own motives or focus?

I think it's unfair to all candidates that they have to campaign so early, diving head-first into the toxin. But here we are.

I only want Al Gore to know that I would support him if he ran. My sense is that most Gore supporters (the ones who put him at %16 in the polls) feel that way. But I think it's safe to say that we (RestoreGore and NastyDiaper) disagree on that point. Because if all good people have to liquidate their good deeds to enter into a candidacy, we might as well give up right now.

But Peace to Everyone. The only people that get to me are the Nader Raider types who would be happy with nobody the moment they accept the nomination and assimilate into the two party system. Hell I respect that position, but would suggest they go elsewhere with their views.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 01:47 PM
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135. Is it possible to comprehend that it is the impression given here by many?
Edited on Sun Apr-22-07 02:01 PM by RestoreGore
This thread is full of comments and recs and yet has no real substance to the content. However, post anything about his training in Nashville and around the world or some other endeavors of his and it falls off in a heartbeat. Now you tell me that shows people support what he is doing here and how he is inspiring others to actually do something beyond the political rhetoric. I only comment on what I see and read and not just here but in general. And I want him to know that he doesn't need to lose weight or tell me in certain words what his intentions are in order for me to respect and understand him. Can others appreciate that instead of constantly piling on? Thank you.

Oh, and to the usual "keeper of the flame" commenter: You bet I am keeping his flame on this issue and I am damned proud to do it because I am sincere about it and I know he is as well. When and if HE ever tells us differently about any of his intentions, THEN and ONLY THEN will I do what is necesary to support him in that endeavor. I don't happen to think that constantly pushing him, harrassing him, planting BS stories in newspapers, and giving credence to those BS stories is supporting anything but your own agenda. He is now running the greatest and most important campaign of his life and that this world has ever seen, and I intend to focus on that because it far surpasses the catty prententious BS political campaigns we see in this country that place more importance on hype, rumor, and supposition over substance as this thread so aptly proves.
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NastyDiaper Donating Member (806 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 05:01 PM
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185. I'm not blind. I just only see it from a few. nt.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 06:08 PM
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196. Restore Gore, did it ever occur to you
that folks often don't kick threads you start for reasons other than those "based on the substance", because you have insulted so many DUers, and your motives, while wrapped in self-righteousness for the cause, seem to be about something other than concerns that you repeatedly state?

I'm sure you've figured this out. So please, I ask that you stop attaching your inaccurate ideas on DUers' non-concern about the environment over the much simpler reality, which is: you've burned a bridge or two here.

We don't know the whole story, but I for one question your role here, and the way you communicate with people who support a Gore run.

Thank you.



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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 01:40 PM
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132. Yeah, with friends like those who needs enemies? (just kidding!) Are you
close to Gore?
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kiteinthewind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 10:03 AM
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96. Well, of course, RG. You always know what the bottom line is. Keeper of the Flame and all...
:eyes:
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Blue Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 12:00 PM
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121. Ha!
I was thinking the same thing! At least RG's consistant... as soon as one of these threads pop up you know he'll be there calling all of us blasphemers for undermining Gore's environmental work.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 01:56 PM
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137. I'm a she and I have just as much right to post in these threads as you do
And you said you were undermining Mr. Gore's environmental work, I didn't. If you consider yourself part of that group it is because you put yoruself there.
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Blue Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 03:31 PM
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169. Again... we're being blessed with your version of revisionist history...
I never said I was undermining Gore's work... :eyes: In fact, Gore has inspired me to do more environmental work. But you are right, I do consider myself part of a group that wishes Gore would run for president again.

Thanks so much for once again proving my point.
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 02:18 PM
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151. You know that's not true --
No one here wants his efforts to look insincere. I don't know why you constantly have to bring push that view. We believe in what he's doing and in his ability to lead the country. From the White House, he'd have much greater control over policy. If what he's doing now is great, just imagine how great it could be if he were president.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 02:58 PM
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163. I know no such thing n/t
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gaspee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 11:36 PM
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24. One can only hope
I don't think he's going to run. He'd have my vote if he did. I've been supporting Edwards, but now I'm not so sure. Clinton's too much of a corporatist centrist for me, Obama's doesn't do it for me at all. I met him in person during the Whitehouse campaign and found him extremely arrogant. Richardson is probably my second choice after Edwards. Maybe even first choice. I like his experience and his character.

I would vote for President Pelosi -- too bad she's not running. Sigh. Tough choices. I supposed it doesn't really matter who I support. My primary doesn't matter and I'm voting D in the general.
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 11:41 PM
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28. I have a repuke friend who recently told me he
hopes Gore runs because "the country needs him" and "he'd win in a landslide." Run Al, run.
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 11:50 PM
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32. I know a couple of Republicans who feel the same way about Gore. n/t
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peace frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 03:38 PM
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172. My husband the embarrassed and chagrined Republican
voted for Gore in 2000 and is chomping at the bit to vote for him again in 2008.

Gore/Obama is my dream team. :loveya:
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 11:53 PM
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33. Yessssssssssss!!!
Al would be Awesome
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 11:56 PM
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35. K&R
:woohoo:
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 12:10 AM
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38. They'd have to come up with new lies to discredit him.
He's prepped. Wheel him right in to the White House.

And last but not least.... No Rove. Or at least, I think he'll be somewhere else.

Let's hope he does run.
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StarryNite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 12:28 AM
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39. Re-elect President Gore!
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 10:43 PM
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218. great bumper sticker
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 12:47 AM
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43. Yeah, yeah, yeah...very stealthy and all
Because we just have to keep it a big secret that Al Gore is running.

<<insert Scooby Doo "Arrrrhuh?">>

This sort of BS is so blatantly agenda-driven.

Stop calling me. I'll discuss this when he decides to announce, not before.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 01:08 AM
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49. I've found Obama to be very stealthy about his issues. I have tried to find out what
they are and how they differ from the other candidates, but so far unsuccessfully.

the same for Clinton.

Clinton's main issue seems to be nastalgia for the Clinton era, and Obama's main issue seems to be charisma.

I find that troubling, because it just doesn't motivate me.

But where they stand on healthcare isn't too clear. Except they are for it. Or where they stand on Iran, except they are against it. They both seem to be in favor of funding the occupation while, presumably, being opposed to the occupation.

So until they let the secret out of the bag, I can't see any reason why I'd be for either one.
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NastyDiaper Donating Member (806 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 10:19 AM
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102. Obama and Gore were BOTH being called up by a groundswell.
Not something blatently agenga-driven.

I'm extremely proud of the primary choices. There is no damn agenda: I want Gore as one of those choices.
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JackDragna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 12:47 AM
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44. No, no, a thousand times no.
The last thing we need is another tepid candidate who lets the opposition walk all over him with golf shoes. While he's spouting cliches about the "promise of America," he looks weak when his opponents demonize him. I'm tired of Gore, I'm tired of Kerry and anyone else who doesn't have the backbone to do this correctly.
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 01:07 AM
Response to Reply #44
48. Hey Friend - here's the
video that turned me around on Gore. I would have said something similar regarding his campaign and its aftermath a couple of years ago. He may have fit the description (sort of) in your post but he has grown past that. The present Gore is not going to let anyone walk all over him. Not again.

If you haven't seen this speech, it would be worth your time to watch.

http://www.acslaw.org/node/2096
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 02:54 AM
Response to Reply #48
61. Heck, Gore flat out won in 2000, Florida was a crime scene with a kangaroo court.
He won the popular vote in Florida and the country despite a challenge from the left.

And he's even stronger and better situated now than he was then when he already won.

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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 04:27 PM
Response to Reply #61
180. Amazing how many people, even here (on a website *founded* to protest the theft) don't know that.
Edited on Sun Apr-22-07 04:27 PM by Zhade
NT!

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Doremus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 09:54 AM
Response to Reply #48
95. Thank you for the opportunity to view that again.
Listening to the words of a true leader is always a distinct pleasure.
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 10:26 AM
Response to Reply #95
104. He is a great man...
whatever he decides to do, we are fortunate to have him at this time in our country's history.
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NastyDiaper Donating Member (806 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 10:38 AM
Response to Reply #44
105. Tepid?
Weak and Spouting cliches? You mean the person who wrote this: http://www.gwu.edu/~action/2004/gore/gore092302sp.html September 23, 2002?

'Demonization' is a concern still, yes. But it's not Republican demonization that I worry about.
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 01:13 AM
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50. What a bunch of specuous crap reporting
AL GORE has not said he's running. Until and unless HE does, this is all just crap. His former campaign staff can assemble all they want and the lamestream media can report on it all they want but UNTIL AND UNLESS AL GORE HIMSELF says he's running, he's NOT.

And anything reported about anyone ELSE'S activity regarding his running is just a bunch of speculation and sensationalism.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 02:49 AM
Response to Reply #50
60. ANd poor Al just doesn't have the means or the where with all to put a stop to
those specious rumors, poor guy. He'd shut the door on these so called "reports" if he only could, I'm sure...
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T_i_B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 06:59 AM
Response to Reply #50
73. This is a UK press speciality I'm afraid
Lots of rumours being thrown about, "off the record" breifings and what have you.

A good example of this has been the recent whispering camapign by ultra-Blairite ex ministers over here to get the British Enviroment secretary, David Milliband to run for the leadership of the Labour Party when Tony Blair stands down. The attempt appears to have backfired as Milliband is all over the sunday papers saying he won't run and how wonderful Gordon Brown is.

The trouble is, some political journalists think that this sort of speculation is what the public actually wants from the media.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 08:43 AM
Response to Reply #50
85. Thank you n/t
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Bjorn Against Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 09:21 AM
Response to Reply #50
92. He hasn't said he is not running either...
But he did drop a hint at the Oscars that he might be, sure it was a joke but there is no doubt he knew that such a joke would bring speculation. If Gore had ruled out a run he would come out and say so, he would not want people speculating that he might run if he was definately not going to because that would effect the fundraising potential of the other candidates in the race. I have no doubt the man is seriously considering another run, his decision may not be final yet but if he was not considering it he would come out and say he is not running.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-24-07 12:11 AM
Response to Reply #50
227. "Speculative" and "specious" are words, "specuous" is not a word, although
it is not suprisingly used on right-wing "come to Jesus", NASCAR, and other such forums.

I'm "series".

You might want to expunge it from your canon.
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southerncrone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 01:36 AM
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53. Nashville local news tonite. I posted this reply on another thread tonight on this same story.
On Nashville local news tonight, Gore was leaving a speaking event

when someone yelled out, "Run, Gore, run!" Gore grunted & scowled. He did not look like someone who was interested in the proposition. He almost had disdain in his expression.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 02:40 AM
Response to Reply #53
59. So is Al holding 4 aces or a straight flush? Poor Al, talked into doing that skit at the
the Oscars, and now folks won't leave him alone about it even though he has said repeatedly he has no plans and couldn't envision a run right now. Undoubtably he'd totally and completely shut the door on the whole crazy notion of a presidential run if he'd only had the time to even think about it.

With his new diet regimen, all his public appearances and media appearances, and his upcoming worldwide forum at the concerts, who has time to shut the door? And of course he has his issues, like media reform, opposition to the invasion/occupation of Iraq, single payer health insurance, public repudiation of the anti-labor anti-peasant-farmer regime in Columbia, environmentalism, a fast growing mailing/e-mail list, and a strong populist attitude.

In some ways he's kinda like Newt, only a much better card player and more people begging him to run. the other differences are he's he's a vet, he's married to the mother of his children, his first wife and he's a fucking visionary and he knows it. Pretty doubtful that he'd run, from your description though. Even though due to his age this would probably be his last shot at it...
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 04:17 AM
Response to Reply #59
65. ....
I really like you.
:rofl:
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halobeam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 08:35 AM
Response to Reply #65
83. hah
So do I!! :rofl:
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 02:14 PM
Response to Reply #65
146. Well, we do what we can.....
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 02:17 PM
Response to Reply #146
149. Yes, we do
But you do it so very well. :thumbsup:
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-24-07 12:31 AM
Response to Reply #146
228. I have to agree, that was a good one,
Mr. Citizen. :-)
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 09:19 AM
Response to Reply #59
91. .
:thumbsup:

Nailed it. Very logical and clever of him, I think.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 02:24 PM
Response to Reply #53
154. And yet people wonder why.
Just look at how we failed this country. We can't even stand up to Bush and yet so many continue to shout they would have his back "this time." Sorry, but I don't believe that either and I hope he continues to make his own decisions and not pay attention to those trying to divert his mission.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-24-07 12:38 AM
Response to Reply #154
229. You grow more incomprehensible with every post,
and yet somehow with that, you grow ever more obvious.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 03:17 AM
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62. now that would be something...
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 03:41 AM
Response to Original message
64. "Rove shits pants to knees"
Pardone my Phrench.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 06:43 AM
Response to Reply #64
72. Why would Rove shit his pants over Gore?
They already "beat" him in 2000. They probably figure they can bash him enough to make 2008 close enough to steal.
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bklyncowgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 06:22 AM
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70. Sounds good, has anyone told Al yet?
Of all the candidates, the one who would lift my heart is Al Gore.

Barack Obama and John Edwards are inspiring but lack the experience to make me feel confident that they could do the job if elected. Bill Richardson has experience and has shown considerable leadership as Governor of New Mexico, but so far has not shown the charisma and excitement that he would need to win against flashier candidates. Hillary Clinton would bring back the Clinton team but little about her leadership qualities has impressed me over the years--and then of course there's her stand on the war.

If Gore runs, I want to see the brilliant, witty Al Gore of "An Inconvenient Truth" and the passionate Al Gore of his recent speeches. I want to see the guy who personally cut through red tape to rescue hospital patients in New Orleans. I don't want to see the tongue tied monolith of 2000 even though, of course, the tongue tied monolith actually won. He's going to have to explain how he fought for the election in 2000, what he could have done better and why he reluctantly accepted the Supreme Court verdict instead of fighting on.

I think he's capable of doing that and more.
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Doremus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 10:03 AM
Response to Reply #70
97. "He accepted the Supreme Court verdict instead of fighting on."
Thank you for affording me the opportunity to ask a question I've often wanted to ask of people who say Al should have 'fought on':

What, specifically, do you propose he should have done to "fight on"?

Is there a higher legal authority than the Supreme Court, or are you suggesting he should have called for a citizen uprising? I see few other options than these two.

Very curious about that. Thanks.

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kiteinthewind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 10:12 AM
Response to Reply #97
100. No kidding! I am sick of that line, too!
I CAN however have that opinion about Kerry. I worked my ass off in '04 and he just dropped the ball. Totally let them steal it without so much as a whimper. Makes me sick to think about it. Could never support HIM again after that, but GORE? That is my candidate. Hell, he is my President.
:thumbsup:
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 11:57 AM
Response to Reply #97
119. Exactly. What could he have possibly done after supreme court's
decision? I think he fought it to the last minute.
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 05:51 PM
Response to Reply #119
191. Who remembers his first Attorney who died Sunday
morning after deliverying legal papers the day before?
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-24-07 12:53 AM
Response to Reply #191
232. I never heard of that.
What's that all about?
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bklyncowgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 06:04 AM
Response to Reply #97
224. Gore had no good choices but, he will need to explain that to voters who don't understand it.
I have heard him explain it very well, in fact. He says that it was a choice between accepting the verdict or inciting riots on the streets.

The problem is that there are large numbers of voters, and you hear this particularly in the African American community who believe that Gore gave up rather than fight. He can overcome this, I believe, but he's going to have to be very direct and very clear about it.

By the way, given the disaster that the Bush administration has become I wonder if he might be rethinking that not inciting riots thing.



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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-24-07 12:41 AM
Response to Reply #97
230. Gore fought it as far as he could, and let us never forget that it was
Lieberman who wanted to toss in the towel.
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focusfan Donating Member (884 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 07:22 AM
Response to Original message
75. I would vote for Al Gore
in 08 i think he could do better than Bush
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ms liberty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 07:32 AM
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76. I would be so happy...Run, Al...please? n/t
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 08:11 AM
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79. I really really hope he runs. (nt)
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connecticut yankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 08:27 AM
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81. Oh, please, please, please, Al --
Gore and Obama. How does that sound?
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ckramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 09:19 AM
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90. I also want to know Gore's stance on war
if he runs.

It's not clear to me where he is on the war issue.

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annrey Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 09:30 AM
Response to Reply #90
93. Gore's stance on the war.
If you really don't know, you haven't been reading the papers. He has opposed it from the beginning.
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 12:04 PM
Response to Reply #93
122. Belated welcome to DU!
:hi:
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 04:29 PM
Response to Reply #90
181. You're kidding, right?
NT!

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IWantAChange Donating Member (974 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 09:40 AM
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94. If it's public knowledge it isn't a SECRET - duh!!!!!!
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 10:18 AM
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101. Please Run, Al. n/t
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 10:40 AM
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106. Paging crispini...
:hi: :woohoo:
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 10:50 AM
Response to Reply #106
109. LOL! Howdy Derby!
Best news I've heard this weekend! I can't wait until I can get some of my job / other volunteer commitments off my back and really go to town on this!
:hi: :woohoo:
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 02:27 PM
Response to Reply #109
157. Hey, Crispi!
We miss you in the clubhouse. Hope you're doing well. See you in a few weeks?

:hi:
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 11:09 AM
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111. I can honestly say I will dedicate my life to his campaign,
when he, hopefully, announces.
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Tektonik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 11:25 AM
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113. YES, AL RUN!
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Harper_is_Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 11:25 AM
Response to Original message
114. The title is innaccurate
Since it is not a "Gore" campaign team unless Gore qualifies it assuch.

And as it states in the article: "He hasn't asked them to do this"

These jokers are operating as mavericks.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 06:27 PM
Response to Reply #114
199. True, but highly placed mavericks. Who see the possibilities and want to
further those possibilities.
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 11:38 AM
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115. i predict signs that read 'REELECT GORE'
hillary's got to be freaking out. though i wouldn't be surprised to see her as his VP.
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Clarkie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 12:08 PM
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123. It isn't going to happen. Gore will not and is not running. nt
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 12:20 PM
Response to Reply #123
124. ... and Al told you this himself ?
If not, how can you be so sure? :shrug:
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amitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 12:37 PM
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125. I hope this is true. I have a feeling it is. He's got my vote. n/t
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 12:40 PM
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126. He will annihilate all challengers !!
Edited on Sun Apr-22-07 12:41 PM by LibertyorDeath




:dem: :dem: :dem:

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Shoelace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 12:49 PM
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127. Gore, Obama in '08
that's my hope but will vote for any and all Democratic nomination. As long as they aren't Republicans, any of them will do a far, far better job than the team of crooks and liars in there now! :bounce: :kick: :woohoo:
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tidy_bowl Donating Member (249 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 01:12 PM
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128. Sorry, but Al had his chance....
.....beside he's needed in the Global Warming fight.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 02:03 PM
Response to Reply #128
139. True, and it's in the constitution that the President can't fight global warming
so, uhhm, er uuhh, what was the question?

Oh yeah.

How many chances does the constitution allow anyway? One? i forget.

It would just be so unfair to Hillary and Obama if Gore were to actually "hog' another chance. They deserve a chance of their own to present their exciting issues to America.

Hillary is running on the important and deeply moving issue of nastalgia for the Clinton era. Poll after poll shows it's #1 or #2 on all Americans minds.

Obama is running on the charisma issue, which is critical not only to the US but the world.

That Gore would selfishly attempt to run on environmentalism, single payer health insurance, and media reform is just ridiculas. Like who cares about those?

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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-24-07 12:49 AM
Response to Reply #139
231. You just get better and better and better at this.
:D Oh, they'll be coming out of the woodwork if he ever actually runs.
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Mugsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 01:40 PM
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131. I've been holding out my financial support...
For a Gore/Richardson ticket.

RUN AL, RUN!
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 01:42 PM
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133. Does anyone care in the least that Gore staffers flatly deny this?
http://electioncentral.tpmcafe.com/blog/electioncentral...

Or is this another DU-mob-who-cares-what's-true thing?
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 01:50 PM
Response to Reply #133
136. No, to some they are all lying including Mr. Gore
They think he is just playing a big game and using the climate crisis as his shield. What an insult.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 02:10 PM
Response to Reply #136
142. Poor Al. SO deeply misunderstood, except by the people who really know him well, such as yourself.
And that Jimmy Carter. How could he be so thoughless of Mr. Gore and his issues.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 02:14 PM
Response to Reply #142
147. yes, how could he be so thoughtless
To not respect a man who now wishes to make a difference his way as he did.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 02:17 PM
Response to Reply #147
148. You would think that DUers would CARE about the front page lede being false...
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 02:19 PM
Response to Reply #148
152. Or at best misleading...
But it seems that using Mr. Gore's new popularity to raise funds and fit their own agendas is common practice now.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 02:24 PM
Response to Reply #152
153. The inhumanity I tell ya. And poor Al, helpless to stop it. Unable to get the airtime or
venue to just set the record straight....



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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 02:31 PM
Response to Reply #153
159. Why should he when the climate crisis gets attention because of it?
Edited on Sun Apr-22-07 02:32 PM by RestoreGore
Had he stated I AM NOT RUNNING in those specific words that everyone seems to think only he is required to say last May, do you honestly think it would have gotten the attention it has? I think he knows that keeping that door ever so slightly ajar keeps people interested in the climate crisis. And I think we can see that here very well. I also think his barring the media from his appearances speaks volumes about what he truly thinks of all of this, and I don't blame him one damn bit.
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badgervan Donating Member (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 02:59 PM
Response to Reply #152
164. Ease Up
We get your point. I believe that Al does possess a sense of duty, that he sees how much our country does need his leadership, and that this sense of duty will drive him, to some extent, to run for the presidency.
One-note fanatical shrillness doesn't help anyone; it only damages the Democratic Party as a whole. Like it or not, we have only two viable political parties at present, so don't let the trees obscure the forest ( a little environmental metaphor for you ).
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 03:19 PM
Response to Reply #164
165. You ease up
Because I'm tired of the pointlessness of this speculation and the intimations by these crap articles that he is some sort of lying political hack just using us all for his own "secret" agenda. And he is now doing his duty for this planet that we all should be doing which some don't seem to be able to grasp, so don't tell me to ease up here. And the only one note fanatical shrillnes here is the same one note speculation based on nothing more than someone's fantasy.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 03:30 PM
Response to Reply #165
168. You are the one who seems insistent on making the point you say you reject.
Having made no final decision on running or not running isn't a secret agenda. It's smart politics.

Use, me Al, use Me!

The article make no assertion or innuendo that not declaring until later is "lying." Those are your words and your innuendo.

If Gore should decide to run later this year would you feel lied to or used?
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 03:55 PM
Response to Reply #168
177. I made ONE COMMENT
It is you and others who insist on piling on. Don't think I won't respond to it.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 05:09 PM
Response to Reply #177
189. If Gore were to decide to run later this year would you feel lied to or used?
I wouldn't.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 08:26 PM
Response to Reply #189
205. From my response above
Edited on Sun Apr-22-07 08:28 PM by RestoreGore
When and if HE ever tells us differently about any of his intentions, THEN and ONLY THEN will I do what is necessary to support him in that endeavor. I don't happen to think that constantly pushing him, harrassing him, planting BS stories in newspapers, and giving credence to those BS stories is supporting anything but your own agenda. He is now running the greatest and most important campaign of his life and that this world has ever seen, and I intend to focus on that because it far surpasses the catty prententious BS political campaigns we see in this country that place more importance on hype, rumor, and supposition over substance as this thread so aptly proves.

So just to enlighten you and the usual suspects here who waste no time in insulting me simply because I won't eat up the BS posted here by discredited media sources: What I care about is that people seem to think that hyping crap like what was posted in this OP that has already been discredited by his own office is actually helping him when it's not. Which was why I originally posted that this was old news and got piled on for it by those here who claim to tolerate different views but clearly do not practice what they preach.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 08:59 PM
Response to Reply #205
209. I'm not sure why you have appointed yourself spokes person for Gore. But
I'm not buying it.

You can buy your own rationalizations, I don't care.

James Carter actually knows him, is a friend of his, and he's urging him to run.
I doubt Gore holds it against him. And I doubt you should either.

It doesn't seem too healthy, in my opinion. It seems pathological.

But what do I know?
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 09:14 PM
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210. Now get nasty when you have nothing else to answer
The only people "appointing" me anything are those who cannot tolerate the fact that not everyone here agrees with them and the fact that in this thread they actually showed how vulnerable they are to believing the garbage spewed by a media they claim to abhor. So be it. If anyone is pathological it is those who cannot leave someone to their opinions without harrassing them. And I hold nothing against President Carter. I simply believe he should understand where Mr. Gore is coming from since he himself has decided to devote his life to working outside the political beltway. So once again your attempt to twist my remarks and put words in my mouth has failed. Have a good night.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 09:24 PM
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211. I know that plenty of people don't agree with me, and there are plenty of
people I don't agree with. I often learn stuff I didn't know, and hopefully sometimes I have something to contribute and other learn from me.

I think Gore very well may run for President in 2008. I hope he does, and will continue to express that opinion, unless I change my mind.

I have no desire to harass you and have never done so to the best of my knowlegde.

Thank you and you have a good evening also.

Peace!
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sasha031 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 02:02 PM
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138.  I don't know if this is a repeat
But Dan Rather said it the other day, claimed he's working out and running.

:loveya: My dream come true...
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 02:11 PM
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144. and by the time he runs
Al Gore ..... the real winner of 2000, oscar winner, and Nobel Laureate.

I still loves me some John Edwards though.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 02:17 PM
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150. Go away, Al. You had your chance.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 02:28 PM
Response to Reply #150
158. Yeah, the constitution and weinerdoggie both say just one chance.....well
maybe it's just wienerdoggie saying that..

And Hillary, and Obama, and Edwards.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 02:43 PM
Response to Reply #158
162. I just feel that our candidates are strong, and that this is unnecessary--
I know it's not the mainstream view on DU to not want Al to run, but we are starting to sound like the GOPers, praying for somebody better to throw their hat in the ring. In the GOPers' case, they DO have losers. We don't. We have a good lineup, INCLUDING Hillary.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 03:20 PM
Response to Reply #162
166. I like Al because he has real issues to run on. I've been looking hard at all
our candidates and so far as I can find the only ones with actual analysis of the issues and with solutions to those issues are;

1. Kucinich. He's the leader in this regards. He talks about the issues and gives detailed information on how he would address those issues. i agree with him about 99% on the issues/solutions.

2. Edwards. While I don't agree with his health care solution he has at least provided a detailed plan. He also has other real issues such as poverty where he provides details of what he will fight to achieve, and how he would achieve it. He has detailed plans vis a vis unions and labor law.

3. Gore. A leader in the environmental movement, this is his most detailed issue. he also supports single payer health insurance, media reform (he has position papers on this issue) and he spoke out long and repeatedly against the invasion and occupation of Iraq.


As far as I can tell, and I've looked, Hillary is running on nastalgia for the Clinton era. As far as health care, Iraq, US emperialism, labor, there isn't much there to find.

Obama seems to be running on charisma. Again, like Hillary, I can't find a lot in terms of detailed policy to have any idea where he stands on the issues.

All these folks, and more, want to be President. The desire to be President isn't finite when it comes to the number of candidates in the primary. I want more than to just beat the Repos in the 08 presidential race. I want a candidate who will fight for my issues, and who I believe has actual workable plans to deal with those issues.

I like Gores plans to deal with issues AND he's our strongest candidate to win in 08. I think he's going to run, at least it sure looks like it.

My Prediction is the 08 candidates will be Gore vs Gingrich, and we will kick their ass. Gore served honorably, he's got more experience, (GOV, Senator, VP) he would unite our party like no other candidate and attract independents.

So why not?

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emmadoggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 03:44 PM
Response to Reply #166
174. .
:applause: :toast:
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 05:29 PM
Response to Reply #174
190. Thanks for the beer, I was thirsty!
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emmadoggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 06:03 PM
Response to Reply #190
195. You're welcome! Always nice to share a beer with a like-minded individual.
Cheers!
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 06:18 PM
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197. Alright, I see by your profile you live in Iowa. And that's power this cycle!
If by some chance Gore doesn't enter the primaries, I would lobby you to vote for Kucinich. If he can get 20% or so of the delegates and head into a brokered convention, we might be able to get Gore as our nominee through that method.

It would also give Dennis a chance to raise progressive issues all along the way and at the convention.

Have a good one!
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emmadoggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 07:10 PM
Response to Reply #197
202. I'm considering it.
I've been liking what I've been hearing from Kucinich, but I need to research him a bit more. Right now, if Gore doesn't enter the race, then Edwards is probably my top choice. But as I said, I'm giving Kucinich strong consideration.

I've never attended the caucuses before :yoiks: and I'm really looking forward to my first time! I plan to go in as prepared as I can.

Honestly, next to Gore, my next two favorites aren't running (Feingold and Kerry), so figuring out who I want to get behind has been tricky for me. Thanks for your input!!

:hi:
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 07:34 PM
Response to Reply #202
204. Check out Dennis' website. He has detailed position papers on
tons of issues from his single payer health insurance bill he's cosponsoring with Conyers, to medical marijuana and everything in between. Just click on "issues."

I think it's highly unlikely that Dennis could get the nomination. But I also think that with so many in the race and the race tightening that we might see our first brokered convention in years, ie, no one arriving at the convention with enough delegate votes to sew up the nomination outright.

I can almost guarantee you that, given the opportunity Dennis would throw his votes to Gore. If Gore weren't interested in the nomination anyway anyhow, my bet is that Dennis very likely would go with Edwards.

Check it out. And have fun at the caucuses.

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emmadoggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 10:27 PM
Response to Reply #204
216. I most definitely will check out his website.
I actually stopped in once, but didn't have much time to really look through it.

Your thoughts on the convention are interesting and it would certainly be exciting if it happened that way. When was the last time we didn't have a nominee sewn up before the convention? Hell, before halfway through the primaries?

And I plan to have a great time at the caucuses and expect to learn a whole lot!

It's been great chatting with you, John Q. Citizen. Thanks for the great exchange! (You rocked this thread, by the way! :headbang:)
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humbled_opinion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 02:26 PM
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155. Please, Please, Please, Please,Please... nt
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libodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 02:39 PM
Response to Reply #155
161. Yeah, what Humbled, said
I have always thought that Al has the Presidential "look" and the name recognition that it takes to be a winner. But can we avoid the 'bag of dirty tricks up his sleeve' KKKarl Rat-fucker Rove, and his band of henchmen?..even with Al?
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 03:35 PM
Response to Reply #161
171. There are no guarantees, but Gore is the strongest possibility we have.
Edited on Sun Apr-22-07 03:36 PM by John Q. Citizen
He's a vet, he's already beat Rove et al. he's a candidate with substance in terms of real issues with real solutions (not fuzzy appeal) he would unite our party like none other, and he would draw independents.

He will run and he will kick ass.
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 03:24 PM
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167. Please God
let Gore run.
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emmadoggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 03:33 PM
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170. I realize that all these stories about Al possibly running are just that...
stories. But dammit all, every time I read a story like this my pulse quickens, my heart goes pitter-patter, butterflies flutter in my stomach and I have an overwhelming urge to SQUEEEEEEEEEEE!!!

Al Gore is THE ONE. That is all.

:)
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FVZA_Colonel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 03:48 PM
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175. "Campaign Team... ASSEMBLE!!!"
N/T.
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 03:53 PM
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176. FWIW: "Gore Camp Denies Report of Secret Campaign"
By Greg Sargent

Naah. Not happening. Al Gore's camp is denying a report saying that his friends have "secretly started assembling a campaign team in preparation for the former American vice-president to make a fresh bid for the White House." The report is now one of the lead stories on the Drudge Report and is being played up elsewhere.

But Gore spokesperson Kalee Kreider emails us this: "There is not a secret campaign operation in Nashville or any other part of the country to mobilize a campaign...other than that which the former Vice President has stated, to mobilize the American people to address the climate crisis."

Adds former Gore adviser Michael Feldman: "Pure fantasy."

http://electioncentral.tpmcafe.com/blog/electioncentral...
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 04:03 PM
Response to Reply #176
179. Been mentioned several times. DUers don't care. They WANT it to be true, so it's true.
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NastyDiaper Donating Member (806 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 06:01 PM
Response to Reply #179
194. I see very few who didn't take their grain of salt from the gitgo. nt.
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disndat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 03:55 PM
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178. No brainer.
Gore/Edwards '08. They represent the foremost concerns of the people, even some Repugs: The environment and health care. Gore said he would make up his mind in Sept '07so this is the scenario: Global Warming concert in July. Time between for r and r. Nobel Peace prize coming up after that maybe, selected in August, announcement of plans to run in September. Official announcement of Nobel Peace Prize in mid-October. All the way to Big February Primaries. Oh, I almost forgot, Bush/Cheney frog march in Orange jumpsuits, some time before.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 04:53 PM
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184. The Torygraph (well I hope he runs because he was always my President!)
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The Count Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 08:44 PM
Response to Reply #184
207. Crap source, right? I knew it all along, wanted it to be true...back to my coffin!
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dardango Donating Member (32 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 05:02 PM
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186. Gore 2.0
I sure hope he's prepared to kick ass and takes no crap!



DemocracyInteractive.com

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kiteinthewind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 05:05 PM
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187. Anyone here from Iowa?
Are there 'Draft Gore' groups there? Just wondering how Iowa Dems feel, given the first caucus.
:bounce:
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NastyDiaper Donating Member (806 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 05:57 PM
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192. DAVID ROBERTS (Grist)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-roberts/gore-campai...

David Roberts offers some political theories.

I think it may have been another sloppy article, with a dramatically misleading title.
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Emillereid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 06:19 PM
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198. President Gore, Assume your office and restore democracy to America!
The World Can't Wait,
Gore '08!
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GreenPoet64 Donating Member (897 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 06:55 PM
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201. He's got my vote! n/t
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The Count Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 08:42 PM
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206. The other thread has the disclaimer from Gore's spokespeople:
http://electioncentral.tpmcafe.com/blog/electioncentral...
Sorry, guys, I had a beautiful few hours dreaming. Of course, that doesn't close the door - but it ain't happening now.
So, I'm going back into my coffin until a good candidate shows up.

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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 09:56 PM
Response to Reply #206
213. Count on it!
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 08:55 PM
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208. Where can I enlist? n/t
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kerry-is-my-prez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 09:51 PM
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212. Please - either Gore or Clark needs to get in. Or, best: Gore/Clark
I'm not happy w/ the current group.
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amitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 10:49 PM
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219. GORE/CLARK is a sure bet. That duo could not fail. n/t
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 10:25 PM
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215. kick
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Maryland Liberal Donating Member (168 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 10:36 PM
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217. ABH
Anybody But Hillary is OK with me
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candice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 11:34 PM
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221. Run President Gore, RUN!
It would have been a different world had the Supremes not installed the loser in 2000 (5 to 4).
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aaronbees Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 11:42 PM
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222. Damn, if he ever runs....
there's going to be one incredible DU Goregasm here!

(And actually I would like to see him run, even if I do favor Obama now.)

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